#thewheeloftime The Two Rivers prepares to go to war with the Trollocs. Perrin tries - without success - to form a truce with Dane Bornhald and the White Cloaks. The town gains more to lose when unexpected visitors arrive on the eve of battle. The White Cloaks' reinforcements arrive - with a familiar face leading the group. Perrin accepts his role as leader as the battle begins.
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What's up, hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid podcast. This is Hanukkah and I am here
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with Anthony and Mike and we are discussing the I guess it's the
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series penultimate episode of The Wheel of Time.
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I was going to say season, but anyway, this is Golden Eyes.
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That's my dog. That's my dog.
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I didn't I I have water to drink.
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I guess that's what we gonna have to do 'cause you know, he's
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about to be insufferable with that for the rest of this
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episode. And like I said, it's just like
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the TikTok says. Woo prepared.
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To be sick of me and I promise you, you're going, you're going
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to be properly hydrated if you're drinking water every
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time. I said if every time I call
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Perry my dog because you you can get your proper hydration going.
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I know because this episode was largely about him.
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But according to Anthony, look, according to Anthony, before we
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started recording, he was like, this should be a short recording
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because only one thing happened and it was fighting that.
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Was it? But there's so many layers to
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despite. That's not all that happened in
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this episode. It's not.
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I mean, it's the main thing. So there's layers.
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Too, we got to talk about talk about Atlanta and the we got to
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talk about my homeboy loyal and his sacrifice.
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We got to talk about bringing the two Chandlers, giving us the
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justice that we've wanted since episode, since Season 1, Episode
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2. We got a lot to talk about.
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There was a lot of good that happened in this episode.
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But when I say I forgot how much this episode made me cry the
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first time I watched it, I was watching it this afternoon.
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And when you start kind of figuring out, because even the
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first time I watched it, I started figuring out certain
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things were going to happen or certain things that I thought
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were going to happen. Like I really thought Alana was
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going to die. And I think Anthony and I both
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said we watched it today. We were like, she's going to
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die. Wait, we've seen this episode.
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Why did we, I don't know the whole goodbye between Loyale and
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Parent because even though I didn't think Loyale was going to
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die, I thought that it was, you know, there was enough of that
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goodbye for them to be separated.
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Like I thought Loyal was going to be cut off from the rest of
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them going to the way gate. I didn't think he was going to
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have sacrifice himself. When I realized that's what was
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going to happen, when I say I started, you would have thought
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my child was dying or something. I started ugly crying.
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I started shaking like the sobbing kind of crying.
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And I was like, really, for this character, we we got to get rid
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of him. That's my other dog, loyal.
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Like I mean, he, he lived up to his name.
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I mean, he didn't have to. He could have figured be another
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way going back out and figured him out, but he was like, no, I
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gotta make sure that none of these mother fuckers get out.
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So he was. I'm I'm kind of glad that the
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show has been cancelled because this episode reminded me of why
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I just cannot stand the writers sometimes for this show, like
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they do they do they do good in trying to give depth to
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characters. Like a lot of the like I said, a
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lot of the characters, especially the villains are
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OneNote. They just one thing, right?
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That's the thing. They've tried to give us some
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layers to them a little bit. But you kill Valda, who has a
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who was supposed to have a pivotal role, and you kill
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Loyal, who also has a pivotal role.
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Like the Loyal thing I might be able to get over because I
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understand how difficult the makeup was for him.
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And that's why they changed it, you know, for this season.
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OK, but. To be fair, we never saw the
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body. You know what?
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And Anthony and I, I think, I think.
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We talked about that. Discussion that we didn't see a
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body, but this was before we found out that they were
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cancelling. So I don't know, I kind of feel
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like maybe some of this was already was kind of like, OK,
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just in case they do counsel us and if they had gotten renewed,
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maybe they will child ball is gone.
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But I think they would have probably maybe found a way they
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could have brought loyal back. But I mean, it was, it was such
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a great death that I don't think I would have wanted them to
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change that, especially the the reaction of parent and band.
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And she had at the end when they kind of paid him tribute.
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I was like, that was so beautifully done.
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I wouldn't want them to like negate that.
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But I I get what you're saying. They thought Rand was dead.
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All the characters did. So, you know, they paid their
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respects and all that good stuff.
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So, you know, and I don't know it it it bothered me.
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It still kind of does annoying the role that the oh gear play
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in the rest of the series. Yeah, it's it was tough.
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I mean, all of the storylines, Wiggy Travalda are just gone up
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in smoke and I'm like, how how are they going to get a lot of
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this stuff? A lot of the well, pun intended,
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they. They could have.
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Made Dane No, no. Well, he's got going requires a
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specific type of that of of Tom Fury that only he's capable.
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Of OK, OK. And I don't know, I, I, I keep,
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I keep like one that hate Dame, but I'm like, you know, he lost
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his his father got killed in front of him.
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I can't really, like, get sick of him because I'm sick.
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Of him I'm sick of. Him.
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I was just like, killed my friend.
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I'm like, Oh yes, we know. Like God damn.
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I was mad at parent and tell him to go kick rocks because he
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offered him the deal and he turned it down.
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You can't come back later and be like I want to do the deal.
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Nah dude, that's not how it works.
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You changed your mind, but in changing your mind, you brought
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the fucking trollix to their door.
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Right, that should have. Negated that deal when he came
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at the end talking about we had a deal.
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Excuse me, You brought trollies to my door.
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I think that I, I think I sacrificed enough.
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I think we have sacrificed enough.
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He should talk to. Revenge.
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He should, he should have told me to kick rocks because last
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thing you said was I don't. I don't wage my man on the empty
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promise, and we know we'll come get you if you survive the
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tropics. They don't sound like you taking
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the deal. Because if you take the deal,
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you would have come right on along.
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And you can't come later and be like, Oh yeah, after everything
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is done, I'll take the deal now. No dude, you can't have.
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Bail and nail standing in front of them being like Nah
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motherfucker gone you gotta get because even.
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When they came in and parent was asking like, so how did you guys
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get here? Oh, we came through the mountain
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pass. How there were child.
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It seems like we didn't count no child.
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That should have told you, right?
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That no, go, don't. Think that's weird?
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Right, right like do you not see us battle worn and weary and
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dirty? Like we have been fighting for
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our lives? We weren't fighting up against
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smoke. So yeah, that that whole thing
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was just weird. Like y'all should have known
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then, but you know what? When when he came to parent and
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said I didn't know about fame and parents said you should
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have, I thought back to our last episode where Anthony was
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talking about the the children of the light and their
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appearance and why they should have been suspicious of Pat and
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fame and the rest of his people. I was like, that's exactly what
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Anthony was talking about. Cuz parents like you should
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have. Not like you should have known
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this wasn't one of your dudes. You shouldn't know.
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Yep, coming. They came in, look at him with
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Dusty and stuff. So I'm like, oh, we just, we
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just killed some problems like motherfucker.
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But I mean, he was he, he was clean shaven as far as that
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goes. His appearance was OK up until
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he got all the blood on his on, well, not even his suit.
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They literally killed other children of the light and then
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took their clothes and and brought I I.
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At least that's what I'm assuming they did because
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wearing does all of a sudden get, you know, outfits.
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That that that one shot that they had at the last episode
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when he came. OK, yeah, he clean shaven, but
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if you looked at all the other dudes around him, they were not.
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And I'm not talking about two day, three day scruff, long
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hair, long beards, raggedy licking, mess up teeth.
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Come on, man. They're not Children of the
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Light, and the other Children of the Light should have been
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looking like, oh, not about this, Mr. Morrow.
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They don't look right. Right, right.
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Yeah, Baldas, Baldas. That should have been like, no,
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no, I'm. Especially Valda.
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Especially Valda. Yeah, 'cause Balda looks like
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he, he looks like that type that would, you know, to his nose up
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at the way some of them look even.
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I mean, I feel like he's putting up with Dane because of who Dane
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is, but I think he even looks at him side eye like you're
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unkempt. Your uniform is dirt.
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I mean, I have it in the background when he's over there
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talking to Perrin and Perrin is trying to form this alliance.
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His he his outfit is grey. That's how dirty it is.
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And he's walking around with a perpetual bottle of alcohol.
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Like who keeps filling this up for him?
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That's what I want to know. Who has that job?
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This is the guy that's holding his horse in the background.
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Are you the one that's keeping him sufficiently drunk?
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But I I feel like Valda is just OK.
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You know what? Your dad was the general was the
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leader. Whatever.
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We just don't let you be. You're, you're still in mourning
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or whatever, but. I think, I think he outranks
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he's he's still out of regs Walded.
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That's what Walded not really saying anything.
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Oh, OK. OK, as far as like torturing and
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interrogating, that's all the specialty.
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Anything I have to die so. OK.
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So we're going to, I don't think we're going in any particular
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order. We just going to go where the
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conversation takes us because I since you mentioned that you're
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in the middle of a war with Trollex and dark friends, you're
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helping the the two rivers people fight.
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But you see Alana Sadai over here on the ground dying because
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she has a spear in her chest. And you decide, oh, none of this
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stuff is important. I'm going to go over here and
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deal with this acid. I that's why your ass got
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barbecued because you were weren't minding the business
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that you should have been minded.
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You should bend over there fighting with your men, helping
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the people of the Two Rivers. But instead, you see this long
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isodide by herself, with Matt's sisters, of course, because
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they're trying to heal her, because, you know, we saw them
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heal her in the last episode. They have all this fighting
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going on. She gets struck with a spear.
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They're trying to help her and they can't.
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They they're too emotional, They're too frazzled.
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They can't do what they need to do.
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He comes. On.
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With Alana. And he's like, move out of the
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way, children. And they turn around.
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They look at him and lay like, oh, you, that motherfucker that
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burned our mom. Yeah, burn this.
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And they, they burn them to a crisp.
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And Alana is sitting there just cracking up, laughing, just
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crack. You know, they had to hurt
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because she has a spear going through the middle of her body.
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But she had to laugh. And I didn't.
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I didn't blame her. I was like, this is what he
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deserves. But if you had just minded your
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business and just stay focused on the Trollix, who were the
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real threats that you would still be alive to to be an
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asshole for another day? Believe.
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The asshole another day. But you know what?
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He got what he deserved. And I'm, I'm glad it was the
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girls that gave it to him because it feels like justice.
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It, I mean, it felt right. Nobody else.
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Yeah. No, I I'm glad it happened that
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way 'cause he needed to die. But.
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He's one of the few characters they didn't give any depth to.
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Like he was one note the whole time.
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That's OK. Bye Balda.
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So maybe he needed to die, Maybe they need to get rid of them
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because they didn't really know what to do with his character.
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Oh well, he's dead. He would have been dead for
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another season. But you know.
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Legos. Legos don't need baby birds in
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hell. Keep on keeping them sick.
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But you're right there. I'm like, dude, all this stuff
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going on and and this. Is what you're worried about.
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This is what you're worried about?
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This is what you're worried about?
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This is it it. Reminds me of it it it actually
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goes along with his character, you know, from the book because
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I always say how he's a blade master.
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Well, there's some questions around how he became a blade
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master like he. He wasn't blade mastering that.
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Much. Maybe there were some, I don't
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know, payments involved to certain people, you know, maybe
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to Sam. 'Cause he wasn't fighting all
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that well in this episode. Like he, yeah, you got to lick
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here, you got to lick there. But there was like a particular
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scene where he's walking and it looks like he's, I don't know,
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it looks like he's favoring one of his arms, but he literally is
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doing this and doing this and that's it.
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And I was like, and you're supposed to be the blade master.
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Like if you had told me Fayel was a blade master, I would have
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believed that. Because when I say she was on
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something this episode, I don't know what it was.
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She was like, I was hyped watching her.
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I swear there was a scene where she was stabbing someone on the
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wall. She reached over someone come in
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the wall. She grabbed their spear and
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stabbed the guy she was. Fighting I'm.
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Like. Like she was slinging and
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slicing and flipping and doing this.
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And you know, her conversation with parent when parent was
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like, get behind me. She was like stop trying to
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protect. He was like just he was like
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kill the ones. I was like, oh, OK.
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And it's like from then on I was looking at her.
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I was like, this little girl is getting it because parent is way
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up here. She about this tall, but she
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literally is getting in all the spots that he can't get like
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he's hitting all the high notes. She's hitting all the low notes
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every time she moved Harmony, I was hi.
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I was sitting on my couch bouncing up and down like yes,
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girl, yes, she was the she was one of the best parts of this
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episode because you saw she had skill.
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You saw she was definitely a warrior.
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She was getting it and I was just like, OK, I like this
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parent was get like parent. Aaron was whooping some ass in
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this episode. My dog, my my dog was swinging
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that axe, man. I ain't got no more.
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Water. I drank my water.
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Like all that, like he was this this is this is probably my
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favorite episode, not just because parent is like the main
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character, but to see like him go from like killing his wife
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and mourning his wife in the first season and not really
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getting over it until like 2 episodes ago.
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Technically. Really.
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No last episode really. That was the last episode, yeah,
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where he told file File what happened.
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Like he finally got over it. And this is like the culmination
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of all that for him. It's like he's actually the
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leader that Tours needs that Tours really needed and the to
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see him like take control and let and him and file like file
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File, just letting him know, like file is like like the
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warrior that that looks forward to death as opposed to someone
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who's fighting not to die. Like she's fighting for she's
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fighting for what's right and she's like, if I die, then good.
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I died for I died for something that was right.
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I died for something that I believe it.
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I died for. I died for people who would do
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the same for me. And it's like I really like her
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character was just her and parent were the perfect
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combination. I mean just like them fighting
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back-to-back and all, all like all the stuff in between.
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Like when he was ready to give up, he's like we we lost and she
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was and she was like keep fucking fighting.
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She was like, don't make me. Put my foot in your ass.
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Yeah, he's like, you ain't giving up, I ain't giving up,
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you ain't giving up. So let's get, let's keep going.
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Right. The the parent, the parent girl,
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like 5 or 6 inches 'cause he was about as big as those tropics.
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I mean, you know, in the book he's, he's supposed to be a
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physically imposing person. That's physically.
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You felt it in this episode, especially once he put that
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armor on when he walked to the to the what is it they they call
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it the when he walked to the past.
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I looked at him. I was like OK like did the armor
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add some some girt to him because he looked he he almost
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looked the same size as Loyale. Yeah, yeah and about the same
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size as a trolley because he walked between those two trolley
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so like wait a second bro, you about the same height as those
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trolley but. That's OK, But I was here for
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it. I was like, OK, that means that
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he has an advantage that some of the other people don't.
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But let me tell you, these people in the Two Rivers, the,
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the, the women's circle, the arches, I mean, when Maxim was
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training them, he was trying to train them with skins.
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And that one little mouthy dude, he was like, yeah, whatever,
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give me a Longbow and I'll handle it.
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And Maxim is looking at them like, whatever, Longbow.
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And when he saw them with the longbows, he was like, OK, Two
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Rivers longbows. Like he gained some respect for
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them because they were like, don't give us weapons we're
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unfamiliar with now. Give us something that we know.
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Give us something that we can play with and and we can do some
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damage and that we're doing some.
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Let me tell you them people of the Two Rivers, they learned
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from that last time. They were like, oh, OK, you
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think you're going to come in our house and and do all this
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stuff again? No, we're not going to have
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that. That's that's that blood of
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Manethrin right there it is. It runs deep.
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It is. And you know, they were, they
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were protecting each other. But then also I have to say
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this, I was not pleased when the Tuathuan showed up because I was
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like, y'all are just going to be a burden because y'all aren't
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going to fight. Y'all just going to be extra
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people that they have to protect.
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And I was just, I, I was not feeling it.
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So when parent asked them to take care of the kids, to escape
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with the kids, I was like, Oh yeah, that's perfect.
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That's perfect for them. But let me tell you, Aaron soon
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as he came up. And the way he was looking, I
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was like, yeah, this boy long for that.
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It's what through my life, the way of the leaf.
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Fight I I really feel like if if they had gone to another season,
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he and parent probably would have switched because you can
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see one parent's reluctance to fight like he's fighting because
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he knows he needs to protect the people, especially because he
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feels like some of that trouble is because of him, you know,
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with the white cloaks come in and all this other stuff.
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But you can see, especially once the Tuatha one get there, him
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and Isla start having their conversations.
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You can see he's like, OK, if I had my choice, this is the path
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I will follow. But I have other people
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depending on me right now. So I have to do this because
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he's not going to be like, OK, you know what?
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Way of the leaf. Yeah, I'll slap my face.
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I'm going to turn the other chick.
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No, he can't do that. You got all these other people
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who have given up a lot to shelter you, to protect you.
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Now you got to fight for them. But Aaron looked like he wanted
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to fight it every time his grandmother spoke, especially
00:21:31
after we learned that his grandfather was killed by the
00:21:34
trollies just the night before. I was like, yeah, he ain't going
00:21:40
to be part of the way of the Leaf for too long.
00:21:43
I I wouldn't say parent was going to switch if they went
00:21:46
along with the with the way his, his character tracked in the
00:21:50
book. It, it did kind of influence his
00:21:55
beliefs and but it like he didn't fight with the axe or
00:22:00
sword. He used the hammer because kind
00:22:03
of like how the I yield these Spears instead of because it's a
00:22:07
tool, it's not necessarily a weapon, but he used it as a
00:22:12
pretty vicious and foul weapon a lot.
00:22:18
So, you know, he he had always had sort of respect for the Wave
00:22:22
Leaf and in that pacifist life, but he knew he can literally
00:22:27
live that life because of his responsibilities.
00:22:32
And he spent a lot of time being put in situations where he
00:22:36
didn't want to fight. Yeah, but he had to fight kind
00:22:40
of like this so that that was a recurring theme with his
00:22:43
character. Yeah, but.
00:22:47
Because he was trying to get away from Ryan and and he just
00:22:49
kept getting pulled back because of that to vary nature.
00:22:53
He couldn't get away from it. And even putting together, you
00:22:57
know, the banner and having the the Red Eagle of Mnethrin and
00:23:01
putting an army together of two rivers, folks, he wasn't trying
00:23:05
to Tam al Thor, just kind of, I don't want to say push them, but
00:23:13
he reluctantly became a leader. Oh, kind of like he reluctantly
00:23:18
became the leader in this House because everybody kept calling
00:23:21
him Leader Lord Perrin, Lord Goldeneyes.
00:23:24
He was like, stop calling me. I'm like dude, just let it go if
00:23:27
that's what's going to get them. If that transferred him through
00:23:30
the book, that's that's that's him the whole book.
00:23:33
He's like, if I is the one, that's like, because she comes
00:23:38
from noble nobility, she kind of helps him along with, you know,
00:23:43
you may not want to be, but this is how the people view you.
00:23:48
Yeah. And it's not.
00:23:49
Yeah, but she also kind of had like ulterior motives too,
00:23:52
because she can marry anyone unless they were noble, but
00:23:56
that's neither here nor there. So she was like, I need you to
00:23:59
be a noble so I can marry. But.
00:24:03
Yeah, so see, technically they call him Lord.
00:24:05
So I mean. Yeah.
00:24:09
I mean, yeah. Elaine.
00:24:11
Elaine helps him out. Elaine.
00:24:12
Elaine helps him out. So.
00:24:14
Oh. OK, OK.
00:24:15
But I mean, it's I understand he doesn't want it because that
00:24:19
that's a lot of responsibility, especially for someone who
00:24:22
prefers to be kind of in the background and not in the
00:24:25
forefront. Like Karen has his character
00:24:29
even, I mean, especially in the show, he's never wanted to be at
00:24:33
the forefront of anything. So for him to all of a sudden
00:24:37
have all this attention on him, I know it's uncomfortable.
00:24:40
I know it's something that he doesn't want.
00:24:42
And especially with the way he kind of takes loss into himself
00:24:48
and kind of makes himself responsible and guilty for
00:24:51
certain things. I know he didn't want to do that
00:24:55
because he's like, I know some of these people are going to
00:24:57
die. And I love that fire had to
00:24:59
tell, look, if they die, that's their choice.
00:25:02
Like that's that'll be their freedom.
00:25:04
Because what is the other alternative for them to live in
00:25:07
fear for the rest of their lives, for them to, you know.
00:25:13
Yeah. I.
00:25:15
And and I know we didn't see them this episode, but Matt has
00:25:19
a very similar art in the same way.
00:25:23
He eventually he stumbles around and all these mercenaries and
00:25:28
and former soldiers are following him.
00:25:29
He's like, why are y'all following me?
00:25:32
He's stumbling in the battles and winning.
00:25:34
And he's like, stop following me, leave me alone.
00:25:37
Yeah, I don't want to do this. And he just keeps doing it more
00:25:40
and more, but he's good at it. So just like parent and it's
00:25:44
they they have very similar arts in the story.
00:25:47
But again. Rand.
00:25:49
Rand needs to have armies, so he's got these people putting
00:25:52
armies together for. Him.
00:25:54
Whether they want to or not. Yeah.
00:25:56
And we're not going to see it. Shut up, shut up, shut up.
00:26:01
I love the the little light exchange with Perrin and Matt's
00:26:06
sisters when he finally shows them the picture and they're
00:26:10
messing with Matt. They're like, it looks like he's
00:26:11
blowing a sheep's ladder and they they start calling him
00:26:15
names. I was like, OK, I love that
00:26:19
we're getting this light hearted moment because you know, this is
00:26:22
about to be a heavy episode. We know there's about to be a
00:26:24
battle. We know some people are about to
00:26:26
die. And I, I'm gonna be honest, I
00:26:29
really thought we would have more people on our side die.
00:26:34
You know, just because I, I think I'm one of those people.
00:26:39
I think it's really unrealistic when you have all of these main
00:26:43
characters and there's a big battle and no one in that main
00:26:47
group dies. It just doesn't seem realistic
00:26:50
to me, even though. Wheel wheels as the wheel wheel.
00:26:54
I'm not, but I'm not talking about just this show.
00:26:55
I'm talking about any, just any show, big battle, whatever.
00:27:00
But I was expecting more death, so I was kind of like, OK, I
00:27:06
like the light hearted moments before everything went to shit,
00:27:09
like that moment with the girls and parents talking about Matt.
00:27:13
I love the fact that Maxim and Alana finally reconnected in a
00:27:18
way that works for both of them where they're they're not
00:27:23
focusing on what they lost with Ivan, but they're like, OK, if
00:27:26
we're going to move forward, we have to create our own path that
00:27:31
does not involve what we're used to with him.
00:27:34
So I love seeing them reconnect because again, it's so much
00:27:38
better when they are connected to each other because like when
00:27:41
she got stabbed with the spirit, he could feel it.
00:27:44
He was like, OK, so we had to do things a little bit differently
00:27:46
now because she's down and he would not have known that if the
00:27:50
bond had been broken. It just it works better when
00:27:54
they're on on one accord. So I like seeing that moment
00:27:57
between them, that kind of reconnecting her irritation at
00:28:05
having to train these people. Like the girls, all they want to
00:28:07
do is do the lightning. And she's like, look, I'm trying
00:28:09
to teach her how to do more than just the lightning.
00:28:11
She was, she was so annoyed. She was like, look, she had to
00:28:14
turn around. She was like.
00:28:16
Right. And then when Daisy was sitting
00:28:20
there, Daisy is the new wisdom and she was like, OK, so you can
00:28:24
channel and you've been watching me teach them.
00:28:26
She's like, you want me to be a part of your child army?
00:28:28
Do I have to let go of my alcohol?
00:28:31
Alana was like, Oh my God, like really?
00:28:33
This is what y'all give me to work with?
00:28:35
Who? Two children who only want to
00:28:37
learn one thing and a woman who doesn't want to do her alcohol.
00:28:41
But I love that when they were in the battle and they were
00:28:45
joined with Alana and they realized how powerful they could
00:28:50
be, She looked at that bottle. She threw that bottle to the
00:28:53
side. She was like, OK, I don't need
00:28:54
that anymore, I want to do this stuff.
00:28:56
And then of course we lose her 5 minutes later.
00:28:59
But she was, she was holding her own.
00:29:01
She was holding off the Trollix. She was holding off so.
00:29:05
Yeah, a lot of with that ice storm, like, holy shit.
00:29:08
Like I that's the one thing I miss about this show.
00:29:12
I love how they how they show the isodized power like being
00:29:17
manifested, like the weeds are just just cool as shit to look
00:29:22
at. Yeah, and.
00:29:25
And I mean, I wonder how much more like wish she had been able
00:29:31
to do more damage if she was at 100% strength because you could
00:29:34
tell when she was doing that. It was taking a lot out of her
00:29:37
because she did almost just die like the day before.
00:29:41
But I was just like, wow. And the girls like, oh, that's
00:29:45
way cool. It's been lightning.
00:29:46
Yes. This is what you can learn if
00:29:48
you had been paying attention over the last weeks.
00:29:51
OK. They did what they were supposed
00:29:52
to do. You know, they helped out.
00:29:56
Then they killed child Balda and then they healed Alana.
00:29:59
So we're good with the girls that we're we're good.
00:30:01
They're good. I.
00:30:02
Think, I think the linking is what took a lot out of her
00:30:05
because since they don't really know what to do, they can't like
00:30:09
give her power. She can't have to take it.
00:30:13
OK, pull it from them and that requires a little bit more
00:30:16
effort. OK, gotcha.
00:30:19
But. OK in the weather, Weather is
00:30:24
not an easy thing to do. Yeah, in in any magical world
00:30:29
like. I know because every time I like
00:30:32
the couple times I've seen that scene, I keep thinking about a
00:30:34
scene in the Belgaria, which is by David Eddings.
00:30:39
And in there Bill Graff, the sorcerer is telling them about
00:30:45
or and telling his daughter about weather.
00:30:48
And it's like, do you know how hard it is to gather up air like
00:30:53
it is? It's not like picking up a Rock,
00:30:56
You know, it's like throwing boulders, how much effort it
00:31:01
takes to gather up air and then turning into moisture and then
00:31:06
turning into ice and then a specific kind of ice in a
00:31:10
specific size that requires a lot of effort.
00:31:14
So that would have tired her out.
00:31:16
OK, just just for just for that reason.
00:31:19
Right. OK, Yeah, that does make sense
00:31:22
'cause now that you say that you don't really think about those
00:31:26
things when at least we don't when we're looking at them, then
00:31:29
we're just like, oh, it's magic, they can do this, they can do
00:31:31
that, and you don't think about the effort, physical effort that
00:31:35
it requires for them to do all that.
00:31:37
So, yeah, OK, yeah, but. See how they gather up the air
00:31:45
and the moisture and then freeze it?
00:31:47
Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:50
And then turn it into pointy things and put them through
00:31:52
trollops like that like that. Yeah Speaking of trollops, so
00:32:02
I've seen this episode before. So I knew what was going to
00:32:05
happen with like Loyale and and him having to sacrifice himself.
00:32:11
That did not stop me from sobbing my ass off when I
00:32:14
watched it today. Like I'm sitting here crying
00:32:18
ugly cries like deep sobs like why I've seen this before I knew
00:32:24
this was coming but it still hurts.
00:32:27
And then just his whole interaction this episode with
00:32:32
Bane and Chi odd, the whole game of maidens kiss where he was
00:32:36
basically trying to say, OK, your you know, your toe has
00:32:41
been, has been paid. So y'all don't owe me anything.
00:32:46
And they're like, Oh no, we do owe you something because you
00:32:48
did this. And he was just like, because
00:32:51
really, I think what he was trying to do, I think he knew
00:32:55
all along he was going to sacrifice himself.
00:32:57
He was going to have to sacrifice himself with trying to
00:33:01
cut off the weigh station so that the other trolleys didn't
00:33:04
come through. And I think he was trying to
00:33:06
keep Bane and Chiat from going with him because he didn't want
00:33:10
them to potentially be in danger.
00:33:12
But of course, this is Bane and Chiat.
00:33:15
They thrive off potential danger.
00:33:18
Like when they were sitting there, like, OK, we got to get
00:33:21
them. We got to get them away from the
00:33:22
weight gate. And then motioned to him, like,
00:33:25
should we put our veils up? And he was like, yeah, they were
00:33:27
like, every time they had to put their veil up, they were
00:33:30
smiling. I said, you know, where they are
00:33:32
relishing this? They're like, battle, this is
00:33:35
fun. This is play.
00:33:38
And I mean, they made short work of the trollies and the dark
00:33:41
friends. But it was so sweet because you
00:33:47
could see that I think they were trying to figure out what he was
00:33:51
doing as well. You know, they were like, OK, so
00:33:55
he's trying to let us off the hook so he can go do this.
00:33:59
No, we need to find a way. Because I think for them, they
00:34:02
were like, we're going to go have his back, whatever it is
00:34:04
that he's going to do. And I love that about them.
00:34:07
Like they are again, for people who are strangers.
00:34:12
They came to the Two Rivers and it's almost like they're part of
00:34:16
the Two Rivers. They're like all in for those
00:34:19
people. They're they're willing to
00:34:21
protect them. They're willing to die for them.
00:34:24
They're fighting their asses off for them because I don't know
00:34:27
how many people came to the gate.
00:34:30
They were just sitting there waiting like, and then they
00:34:33
waited for them to turn to them. And they're like, yeah, it's
00:34:36
time to fight. Put these bells back up, go kick
00:34:39
some butt. And then what happens with
00:34:41
Loyale is happening because he can't shattered the door, so he
00:34:47
realizes he's gonna have to cut off access to the door, which
00:34:52
means he has to hit the ground, break the ground, and literally
00:35:00
cut off the door where he is standing.
00:35:04
And I was just, that was really what made me decide 'cause like
00:35:13
Anthony and I were picking up the the shows, we were still
00:35:17
talking about the show while you were out.
00:35:20
And I was like, with the last episode, I said, maybe we should
00:35:24
wait for Mike to come back. And then once I saw that Loyale
00:35:28
died and sacrificed himself, I told Anthony, I said, no, we
00:35:32
can't record anything else Will time until Mike is ready to come
00:35:34
back. Because you literally had just
00:35:37
said a couple of episodes before that how Loyale was your
00:35:41
favorite character and he was like, I hope he doesn't die this
00:35:44
season. I'm gonna be pissed if he dies
00:35:46
this season. That's gonna hurt.
00:35:47
And I was just like, yeah, we gotta have Mike's reaction on
00:35:51
this cause 'cause it just, it wouldn't feel right to talk
00:35:55
about that and you not be on the show.
00:35:58
So are you OK, Mike? No, I'm not OK.
00:36:01
I'm not OK. I just like you.
00:36:04
I just like I was like I'm I was literally just watching what
00:36:08
that scene with Loyale again, like I'm going going through the
00:36:10
show on my phone. I'm just like, man.
00:36:14
But it's like he deserved. This is the noble death that he
00:36:18
deserved. If he was gonna die, I'm glad he
00:36:20
died like this, like he died nobly.
00:36:22
He died for A cause for a reason.
00:36:25
He like he was trying to save. He was trying to save people,
00:36:28
which is something that which is I can appreciate.
00:36:31
Yeah. Like, OK, that that, but it
00:36:35
just, I mean, him writing in the book to them, reading the book
00:36:39
afterwards, I was just like, wow.
00:36:41
Ugly cry, ugly cry. But you know, I think he could
00:36:46
have done what he needed to do if he had, if he had gone to the
00:36:50
standing first before they came to the Two Rivers.
00:36:53
He wasn't at full strength. No, I think that's one of the
00:36:56
reasons why he couldn't shatter the door like he wanted to,
00:37:01
because if he had shattered that door, he would have still been
00:37:04
able to go to another weigh station, right?
00:37:08
He would have been able to go back through the ways to another
00:37:10
door to another area. Like he wouldn't have had to
00:37:13
die. Well, he he would have been
00:37:16
fighting those trollies, but you know, I think he could have
00:37:20
taken a lot of them. I'm sure he knew that the gate
00:37:26
is extremely difficult to break. Like they're almost impossible
00:37:30
to break in the book. In the book he used the
00:37:34
venisaura leaf and kind of locked it and marine warded it.
00:37:42
OK. And so they couldn't come
00:37:44
through. But there's no Marine, right?
00:37:47
Because she's all. The way on the other side of the
00:37:50
world. Other side of the world and I
00:37:52
said I is not you know, Alana is not available so.
00:37:56
No, Alana just trying to stay alive with a spear through her
00:38:00
body right now. Alana's been through it at Faust
00:38:03
Line. I'd never want to come back to
00:38:05
the true Rivers. I'm like, I'll keep putting
00:38:06
pointy things in me like get fucked away from me.
00:38:09
The interesting thing is I don't how how would they have come
00:38:13
through. You know what, I don't want to
00:38:14
think about it because you either have to have a Venusaura
00:38:18
leaf, which they're the Trollix have those, or you have to use
00:38:24
the one power or the true power. So someone had to have been with
00:38:29
those Trollix who could open the gate.
00:38:32
Maybe one of the dark friends had that ability, but we'll
00:38:36
never. Of course not.
00:38:38
You'll never know. But OK.
00:38:41
But then again, the Forsaken know how to use they can travel,
00:38:53
so they can actually basically teleport the child is there if
00:38:56
they need you to. Oh.
00:38:58
OK. So did that.
00:39:01
I'll try not to think too hard about these things, especially
00:39:06
the show. So, OK, yeah, whatever.
00:39:12
Let's see what else is there in there 'cause I mean, you were
00:39:17
right. And it's, it's, it's really just
00:39:19
a lot of fighting. There's some some dialogue in
00:39:23
there and there's some, like I said, there's some moments and I
00:39:26
think we've discussed the majority of those moments.
00:39:30
The moment is playing in the background, the moment that
00:39:33
Aaron stabs the child look and his grandmother sees him.
00:39:37
I felt like I was looking at that vision of Rans where, yeah,
00:39:44
I was just it. Was a good call.
00:39:45
It was a good call back. I like that, 'cause she had the
00:39:47
same look on her face that that that mom that mom had was the
00:39:52
same. Her grandmother was the same
00:39:54
work. Yeah.
00:39:56
Mom, I think. Yeah, yeah, it was his mom in
00:39:59
the in the vision, but. She was like you.
00:40:03
You think so? He was just supposed to live
00:40:06
there and let him and the baby get killed.
00:40:09
So he wanted to make a choice and that's.
00:40:11
The whole problem. I'm not.
00:40:12
I'm not going to be upset with his choice.
00:40:15
Yeah. And then, you know, then you
00:40:17
remember when Bane and she had was like the Lost Ones.
00:40:23
But I was thinking about that too, like, oh, if you only knew
00:40:26
your history like you guys used to be to watch the one.
00:40:32
So yeah, I I was thinking about all that.
00:40:36
But I mean the fighting in this episode, the the villagers when
00:40:44
when parent finally picks up the hammer, because he's the eye in
00:40:48
the hammer the whole episode. And I think he was just was that
00:40:53
the same hammer that he killed Layla with, I thought.
00:40:58
I hit him with an axe. Axe, OK, I couldn't remember so
00:41:01
but but he's deadly with that Hammer 'cause once.
00:41:06
I think that was really. It's almost like it added a few
00:41:10
inches to him because he walked out of that forge tall and I
00:41:15
mean literally knocking him. And then here comes a little
00:41:21
acrobatic fire behind him doing all kinds of mess.
00:41:25
I was just like, I had to rewind a couple of times because she
00:41:30
was moving so fast that it was like, wait, what did she just
00:41:35
do? She was just all over the place
00:41:38
and just like, somebody's over here fighting.
00:41:41
She's throwing swords and you over here killing people, right?
00:41:45
He like she was doing a lot. I like I said, I loved it.
00:41:50
I was sitting on my couch so hyped, but I was also like, if
00:41:54
you get killed, I'm going to be real mad, right, because I I
00:41:58
just kind of felt like something was going to happen to her, but
00:42:02
I'm glad it didn't Maxim with the Longbow.
00:42:06
That was funny because there was one shot that they did of him
00:42:09
specifically and it was literally like he he was giving
00:42:15
off an air like he was bored. He picked up the he picked up
00:42:18
the Longbow, pulled it back almost like with his two fingers
00:42:22
and just let it go and it went into it.
00:42:23
But I was like he looks like, oh, this is so easy.
00:42:26
Let me just but it was so much fighting.
00:42:30
I loved it. I did.
00:42:32
And I like seeing some little white clothes.
00:42:34
I'm I'm sorry. I like seeing some of them die
00:42:36
because y'all are stupid because.
00:42:39
Y'all. Are stupid like the.
00:42:41
Trash, yeah. Yeah, no.
00:42:44
And is that I just saw that moment you were talking about
00:42:46
fail like on on the back of the troll look like stabbing.
00:42:49
I was like she was just like Drax.
00:42:51
She was. Yes, she was.
00:42:54
She was getting it. But yeah, the I I don't know
00:43:01
what to say about the white clothes.
00:43:02
The only thing I can say is they should have had better leaders.
00:43:07
And maybe if Dan's father wasn't dead, things might have gone off
00:43:13
a little bit better 'cause I think he would have been able to
00:43:15
look at them and be like, OK, something right about y'all,
00:43:18
about these reinforcements. I think he would have been able
00:43:21
to look at it. I think child Balda, yes, he was
00:43:25
kind of put off by their appearance, but I don't think he
00:43:30
cared. I think he was more so just
00:43:33
like, OK, we're gonna go do, we're gonna go do our.
00:43:36
As long as y'all bring me somebody to torture, I'm good.
00:43:39
I don't think he really cared. No, he.
00:43:41
Didn't Dan is the only one who was there with a particular
00:43:44
purpose and that was to bring parents to justice and.
00:43:49
He was blinded. He was blinded by vengeance.
00:43:51
Yeah, but I mean, a parent told him, he said, you know, when he
00:43:56
was sitting there negotiating with him and he was talking
00:44:00
about how, you know, you, you killed my father, he said.
00:44:03
So does that excuse you killing Natty?
00:44:06
He said she died because of your grief, just like your father
00:44:09
died because of mine. Like, where does this end?
00:44:12
And even when at the end, when they arrested him and Via was
00:44:17
ready to fight, she was like, oh, you think you like we just
00:44:20
got together. You think you about to take my
00:44:21
man? Absolutely not.
00:44:22
And he had to tell them no. He was like, violence only stops
00:44:26
when one person says enough. And if they kill me, then that's
00:44:31
what they do. But this has got to stop.
00:44:35
We got to stop fighting each other.
00:44:36
We got to stop you know all of this violence.
00:44:40
Now I will say this and I know y'all knew I was going to say
00:44:44
this. He should have killed Pat and
00:44:45
Fain. There is no way he should have
00:44:47
let Pat and Fain go. Yep, he should.
00:44:51
But I mean, and I understand he's an honorable man.
00:44:54
So once I tell you if you call off your trollock army, you can
00:44:58
go. That would have been fine.
00:45:00
But the moment, had it been me? I'm just saying, had it been me?
00:45:05
After all the shit you've done over the last couple of years
00:45:09
and the fact that you literally just sat here and told me, I
00:45:12
don't care about you. I don't care about your people.
00:45:15
I don't care about this place. I, I'm, I'm just here for the
00:45:19
chaos. I'm here for the like.
00:45:21
He really had no motivation for doing what he was doing.
00:45:25
The minute he called that Charlock army off and they
00:45:28
started retreating, he would have had an axe to the neck.
00:45:31
I'm so sorry. I will.
00:45:34
I will deal with, you know, I will deal with my loss of honor
00:45:38
later as long as this mother fucking dead.
00:45:41
My guy is the great escape artist.
00:45:43
Is like you like he can't die. It's like every time you think
00:45:46
you think he's gonna die, he like, finds a way to worm his
00:45:49
way out of it and escape, right? Come back, but come back again
00:45:52
to bother you. This is like he's like a gnat.
00:45:54
It's like you swinging at it, swinging at it and mother
00:45:57
fucking. You just can't catch that bitch.
00:45:59
Loyale is about to die in the background.
00:46:01
I can't watch, that's why I'm covering my face.
00:46:06
He's. My dog, yeah, I just can't wear.
00:46:10
But yeah, Pat and Fain, well, of course now we're not going to
00:46:13
know. But I was like, if he comes back
00:46:16
next season and he's still doing this stuff, I want somebody to
00:46:19
throw a knife through him. Maybe Matt, cause Matt would
00:46:22
have no qualms about Oh, I know I said I was going to be
00:46:25
honorable. No, Matt would have been like,
00:46:27
oh, you're the reason all this. No, let me, let me go ahead and
00:46:31
kill you. Where's, where's the dagger,
00:46:35
Matt? Matt had it last.
00:46:38
Yeah, and he, he tied, he tied it onto a Pike and killed 'cause
00:46:44
he. Was fighting, yeah.
00:46:46
I think he dissolved when? Oh no, wait, wait.
00:46:50
They used he used it to open the case to have a horn in it.
00:46:53
Yeah. And that was last time we saw
00:46:55
it. No.
00:46:57
Had it. He had it when he was fighting.
00:47:00
He's he, he stabbed, Ran with it, remember?
00:47:04
Yeah, that was the last time we saw.
00:47:05
It, So it's probably they probably left it on the well, I
00:47:08
don't know. I don't think they would have
00:47:10
left it on the tower because that would be dangerous, but
00:47:13
they probably got rid of it. I don't know, gets lost in the
00:47:17
show. Well, the, the context is it's,
00:47:22
it's important to the story with Pat and Fane.
00:47:25
So we'll see. I, I don't know, maybe they'll
00:47:30
show up. No.
00:47:31
We. Won't see.
00:47:32
We won't see. We won't see.
00:47:34
Wait. Pat Pat and fame makes it to the
00:47:38
last battle. So.
00:47:40
OK. Yeah, no.
00:47:43
Of course he does. Parents should have just killed
00:47:44
him. Parents should have.
00:47:46
Just no. He's important.
00:47:48
He's important. So was child bother according to
00:47:51
you? No, he's important in in.
00:47:54
He's important to Rand. Child bother is not important to
00:47:56
Rand. OK, OK, But I, I don't know the
00:48:03
parent effect, like on the background right now, Pat, he
00:48:07
just has one of those faces you just want to punch.
00:48:11
Just like, oh, so much of this is because of you.
00:48:15
And you don't even have a good reason for doing this.
00:48:19
You're just doing it like parents should have killed him
00:48:25
anyway. So lots of fighting in this one,
00:48:32
all in the two rivers. So we don't know what's going.
00:48:34
I'm I'm going to assume the next episode deals with the other
00:48:38
side of the world because now the trollops have left the two
00:48:42
rivers is kind of sorted in peace, except for the fact that
00:48:46
parents just got arrested. But you know, I don't think
00:48:49
they'll be bothered by the trollops.
00:48:52
And now still. Know Tam, Al, Thor and Matt's
00:48:55
father. Just.
00:48:59
They just. Yeah, whatever.
00:49:01
They're just in the wind because Amazon decided to cancel a
00:49:04
fucking show. But.
00:49:06
You spent $50 million on a damn wedding, but you can't spend
00:49:09
like 8 or 9 to finish this shit out.
00:49:11
Like motherfucker, the hell you just all you gonna do, all you
00:49:15
gonna do is cheat on her again. Like they they.
00:49:17
Just going to take that money from the show and move it over
00:49:20
to ring power. That's all they.
00:49:23
Do pull that shit back and pull that shit back and give me, give
00:49:26
me 7 episodes of this. We can close it out.
00:49:29
What they should do is move some of these writers ring power to
00:49:32
help them out 'cause they need some help up there.
00:49:36
But you said you didn't like what the writers were doing over
00:49:39
here, so why would? I say I like some of the stuff
00:49:41
they're doing. Yeah.
00:49:44
And say I liked all of it. They can help with some of that
00:49:47
characterizing 'cause that, that, that part they got, Yeah.
00:49:51
And they're not trying to follow something that's already been
00:49:54
done, so. Yeah.
00:49:56
You know that. This show is cancelled but hmm.
00:50:04
That man they kill, Yeah. And now we'll never know if he
00:50:07
actually survived it or not. I, I and I know that their
00:50:11
efforts being made to save the show, like the, the fan base is
00:50:16
really rallying. They've got a petition going on.
00:50:19
They've paid for billboards all over the place.
00:50:23
I think I've seen even some international billboards, you
00:50:27
know, trying to save the show. So I don't know, maybe somebody
00:50:31
else will pick it up and and save it.
00:50:35
I don't know. This is one of those shows this,
00:50:38
you know, even with some of the things that we complained about,
00:50:42
I don't think it was enough complaining for us to be like,
00:50:45
OK, yeah. That the show was worth deserved
00:50:47
to be cancelled. No, especially this season.
00:50:51
This season was probably the best out of all three seasons.
00:50:55
It was I. Anyway it?
00:51:01
Was. You guys have anything final to
00:51:04
say about this episode 'cause I I did.
00:51:07
The the well, I guess I reserved my comments about the series
00:51:11
being cancelled until after I last episode.
00:51:16
This was not one of my favorite episodes, OK, simply because I I
00:51:21
didn't like the direction they took with some of the
00:51:23
characters. It did have some good moments,
00:51:27
but it was definitely not it wasn't a top episode for me.
00:51:31
OK. And that's understandable,
00:51:33
especially, you know, if if characters are different from
00:51:38
where you thought the story was going.
00:51:39
But. Yeah, and I know what I had
00:51:41
said, but I was trying. I had separated myself from what
00:51:45
they're supposed to be in the book to what they're doing in
00:51:47
the show. It's just that even as the show
00:51:50
is going, I still don't like what they did with some of the
00:51:52
characters. Like, I still don't like that
00:51:55
they kill Royale. I don't really care for Parent
00:52:00
turning himself over, which still, I don't understand.
00:52:04
Dude did not take the deal so why are you going with it now?
00:52:08
Like Parent that would have been.
00:52:11
Because he showed up and and parent is a dude of honor.
00:52:15
He showed. I know, I know, I agree.
00:52:19
With you last thing you said to him because he had no
00:52:23
expectation of you coming that mean the deal was off because
00:52:26
last thing you told him was I will not sacrifice my men for an
00:52:30
empty promise. So you didn't even please?
00:52:32
Parent. No, the last thing he actually
00:52:35
said was if the Trollix don't, we will.
00:52:38
OK, we will. Exactly.
00:52:39
So how am I supposed to think that we have a deal when you
00:52:43
basically just told me you couldn't come clean up after the
00:52:46
Trollix wiped this out? So yeah, no.
00:52:50
But I guess in parents mind y'all showed up so that means
00:52:54
that you know y'all fulfill your end of the deal.
00:52:57
So I'm a fulfill. But like I said.
00:52:59
If Matt would have told him, Matt would have told him.
00:53:01
That's not how deals work, buddy.
00:53:05
Right. And also, like I said, you
00:53:07
brought the Trollix, so technically speaking you brought
00:53:13
the enemy. You ate it in the bed of the
00:53:15
enemy. So I shouldn't have to fulfill
00:53:19
anything. But I think too, if he would
00:53:23
have refused to go, then the white clothes would have
00:53:26
attacked and then it would have been just a whole nother bloody
00:53:29
battle and that would have been more people dying and then
00:53:31
Parent would have felt guilty and parent is done with all of
00:53:35
that so. You, you know how I would have
00:53:37
written that? I would have turned basically
00:53:40
turn Fayil into, into Matt Smith from the House of the Dragon.
00:53:47
And while Dean is talking, she just walks by, slits his throat.
00:53:51
We're done. That's how I would have ripped
00:53:55
it. And I would have been upset.
00:53:57
He could have been mad, but what?
00:54:00
What was he going through at that point?
00:54:02
Yeah, 'cause you don't have a lot of white.
00:54:04
I'm looking in the background. You don't have a lot of white
00:54:07
folks with you right now. You got a whole village that's
00:54:09
willing. Like Fayel said.
00:54:11
Apparently you can't do math because there's more of us than
00:54:15
there are of you. And they just be down to they
00:54:18
just be down to Charlie Army, so.
00:54:20
So I think they could have taken them, but.
00:54:23
They would have taken them. I just Fayel was just taking
00:54:27
them by himself. And not not not by herself
00:54:32
because band that she had as soon as he was like oh y'all
00:54:34
can't count. They were like oh we finna fight
00:54:36
again. Yeah, the three of them, they
00:54:38
would have been there. They would have been there, but
00:54:41
that would have been that would have been without red thing
00:54:43
we've been, excuse me, poking on his own blood.
00:54:49
He would have been there. I mean, I don't.
00:54:53
I don't really dislike Dane. I don't, but if I have to choose
00:55:01
between him and his grief and parent, I'm going for parent
00:55:08
every single time. So Dane just needs to, I don't
00:55:13
know, he needs to get over and figure it out.
00:55:15
But I guess it doesn't matter now because the fucking show got
00:55:17
cancelled. But yeah, I just, I, I don't
00:55:21
think he should have turned himself in.
00:55:23
He definitely shouldn't have, but you know, I mean, he has his
00:55:27
newfound role as the Lord of the Two Rivers, so he has to uphold
00:55:33
his lordship that I don't buy that shit.
00:55:36
His Honor, Lord Aaron. Golden eyes.
00:55:40
Yeah, fuck about that. I was almost expecting him to
00:55:42
keep saying don't call me that as they were as they were
00:55:46
walking him away. It's not my day.
00:55:49
But it's OK. Should have had that.
00:55:52
Should have had that IO split all day bro do.
00:55:55
You have any insight outs, Mike? Shout to me, me not saying that
00:55:59
Pat Fain and involved the look look alike now 'cause I'm not I
00:56:04
don't have to see them in the same in the same episode again.
00:56:09
I I really see, I'm like, I'm like Hanukkah with comic books,
00:56:18
like me with books now it's like I'm, I'm trying like I'm edging
00:56:21
out time to read Children of Blood and Bone just so I could
00:56:24
see it before the movie gets out.
00:56:26
But I'm like, I want to read this whole series, but I'm like,
00:56:29
I don't have time. Like everything, there's so much
00:56:31
shit going on. It's like I don't have time to
00:56:33
do shit. It's actually not, not between
00:56:36
now and and September because we got Dragon Con and to prepare
00:56:42
for so. Exactly.
00:56:44
Yeah, so much shit. But yeah, I mean, you don't have
00:56:49
any more anymore other than other than to my dog who clear
00:56:53
who, who really showed out in this episode.
00:56:55
Only the only thing that could have made it better is if 'cause
00:56:59
they kept dropping, dropping that.
00:57:01
Trolls don't like wolves. Trolls don't like wolves.
00:57:04
Only thing that was that was missing was him.
00:57:07
Him. Try him summoning a pack of
00:57:09
wolves. Yeah, to come in like I was, I
00:57:12
was expecting that through the whole episode.
00:57:13
I was like, OK. Me too, me too.
00:57:16
Because they kept dropping that. They're like, yes, you're you're
00:57:19
the wolf. You're the wolf.
00:57:20
Because they don't like wolves and wolves and wolves.
00:57:22
And I'm like, OK, where the fuck are the wolves?
00:57:24
She can dig. I'm gonna be honest, even though
00:57:27
I know Anthony says he's not a werewolf or a shapeshifter, I
00:57:32
was almost half expecting him to turn into.
00:57:35
One exactly turn have my have my dog turned to a werewolf.
00:57:38
I need my dog, need my. Dog in the house I was almost
00:57:42
half. Expecting it to happen,
00:57:44
especially once they put the banners up, I was like, yeah,
00:57:47
parent is parent is being the reluctant leader, but he's going
00:57:51
to turn into a wolf and he's going to scare the Trollix off
00:57:53
and he's, his wolves are going to come behind him, rally behind
00:57:57
him and they're going to. So I there was a small, I will
00:58:00
admit there was a small part of me that was expecting that.
00:58:03
So I'm kind of glad that didn't happen though, because I think
00:58:06
that would have been a little corny.
00:58:09
No, they they needed the help. I have expected, expected to see
00:58:14
what's his name? The other other wolf dude, that
00:58:16
look, that look. Like.
00:58:18
Yeah, I have expected to see Elias just show up out of
00:58:21
nowhere and start slap. Just just just move through the
00:58:23
crowd. Start slicing people.
00:58:25
And I say they ain't got, they ain't got.
00:58:27
Shit, I know, I know. I'm glad to have us been like
00:58:32
like just like splicing people's slicing throats and looking at
00:58:35
looking at parents and don't expect this treatment often and
00:58:38
just keep going through like right, just like randomly
00:58:41
killing people. Then next thing, then it's like
00:58:44
the next morning. He's like he, he's like, oh, you
00:58:47
sure you don't want to stay? Just like, what the fuck did I
00:58:49
say? Motherfucker?
00:58:50
Don't expect this kind of treatment there.
00:58:52
Learn how to control your wolves.
00:58:54
You can't believe, can't believe.
00:58:55
You let Hoppy die and I'll just slice your throat.
00:59:01
Well, I think it's so wrong it. Wasn't his fault he told Hopper
00:59:06
to stay behind. He did, and Hopper did listen.
00:59:10
So you know. Loyal.
00:59:13
And and he. Did save parents lives so.
00:59:18
He did. He did save parents lives.
00:59:20
Just for parents to now be arrested for murdering the
00:59:24
person that killed him, but OK. Whatever, I used to just kebab
00:59:29
to all the mother fuckers and been like yeah now what?
00:59:32
And now? OK, so we have one episode
00:59:40
remaining of the Wheel of Time series and then that's it.
00:59:46
And I'm still so sad. But yeah, 'cause I mean,
00:59:50
especially after, like, I went to Jordan Con for the first time
00:59:54
this year and that was a lot of fun.
00:59:55
So I was expecting, you know, I was like, OK, go back next year,
00:59:59
talk about the show some more, have fun.
01:00:02
And yeah, so like I said, hopefully they can save the
01:00:09
show. Somebody else will pick it up
01:00:10
and decide to do something with it.
01:00:13
But I guess. I guess we shouldn't hold our
01:00:18
breath. Yeah, we can get my hook set.
01:00:22
OK. Yeah, that's the same thing we
01:00:24
were holding for Shadow and Bone.
01:00:25
You see where that got us, So. No.
01:00:29
And the and, and that, that they got creative with trying to get
01:00:36
Netflix to renew that one. Because I think, I think one of
01:00:39
the things that they did was they had they sent boxes and
01:00:43
boxes and boxes of fake crows to the Netflix office.
01:00:51
I think that was one of the things they did, but OK.
01:00:55
The only company that could do it is HBO, and they got, they
01:01:03
got their own shows. They're trying.
01:01:04
To they still got too much. They were they, yeah, they were
01:01:06
trying, they trying to cut budgets.
01:01:09
They're not trying to pick up more shit.
01:01:11
Yeah, OK. And Netflix is not going to do
01:01:16
it because they like. Netflix does that and doesn't
01:01:21
bring back shower and bone. I'm gonna I'm canceling my
01:01:23
prescription. Yeah, well, yeah.
01:01:25
Well, they're more into doing their original stuff, so they
01:01:28
don't. I don't really care picking up
01:01:29
other people's. Stuff and they renewed FUBAR.
01:01:31
I'm like, really, out of all things, you gonna renew that
01:01:36
Arnold Schwarzenegger shit, which I'm still watching because
01:01:39
the shit's funny as. Fuck then they and then they
01:01:41
renew Velma too for a second season.
01:01:46
I think, I think Max gave Max gave him another season.
01:01:49
OK, you. Know that I could.
01:01:50
I could. I couldn't even.
01:01:51
I couldn't even get 15 minutes through that shit.
01:01:53
It was terrible. Hopefully nobody brings back
01:01:58
good times, but that's even here.
01:02:00
Another. Some things need to be left.
01:02:03
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01:02:07
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