#thewheeloftime Separated from his friends, Rand builds a new life for himself while trying to find ways to train. A new novice in the White Tower takes an interest in Egwene, just as Liandrin does with Nynaeve. Perrin finds himself in trouble with an unknown enemy. Moraine takes extra steps to continue to keep Lan at arm's length. Liandrin lashes out when Nynaeve discovers her secret. Mat's attempts at escape provides him with an unexpected (possible) ally. Nynaeve prepares to take the next step in her training.
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What's up hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast. This is Hanukkah and I am here
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with Anthony and Mike, and we are discussing Season 2, episode
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2 of The Wheel of Time in which we finally get to see what Ran
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has been up to in the six months since he was.
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At. The eye of the world.
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And my question is, how about who?
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This woman, who is she? I don't know.
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There's there's something about Celine where even the first time
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she appears on screen, I'm like, I don't like her.
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There's something not right about her.
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There's something off about her. I don't trust her.
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Nope. And not at all.
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Not at all. She's she's 100% sleeper agent.
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She's gonna fuck his shit up. Absolutely.
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I have. To be doing something 'cause I
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don't, I don't know, something about that just don't seem right
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to me. She.
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Pitting it on them for Sarah. For show.
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For show No. I I guess, but I.
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Don't even know he remembered Who Who equine.
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Is no. He remembers because he says as
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much in this one. When she was like, who are you
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thinking of when you were with me?
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He was like someone I wish I could forget.
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Never. Be exactly fucking simp.
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OK. But OK, going back to what Mike
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said when we discussed the first episode.
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OK, my I I know I was giving you a hard time, but OK, it's one
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thing to do the buzz cut and you still got the red hair.
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Like like I said, he's he's in another part of the world.
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Maybe that's not that noticeable, but you using your
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same fucking name like like folks ain't gonna be looking for
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you red headed rands. Do you think there are in the
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world? Right.
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He basically he basically pulled a Sean TA Sean T Sean T Sean
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thing is like really? They don't have social.
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You don't have a Facebook page, you don't have social media.
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We don't have these things, but. They have word of mouth which is
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very effective in this world. Nobody knows anybody from the
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Three Rivers, so he can walk around saying my name is rammed
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all day long. They don't know.
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Good. But there are people looking for
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him and we like, we don't know. The the the I started looking
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for him right, But remember it the the number of people who
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actually know why they would be looking for him is small.
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If they're not going to go around announcing and posting
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everywhere that if if the acid I are looking for a man, it's
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probably a man who could channel.
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Because it's not like it's not like the acid.
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I hide who they are, like they are very noticeable wherever
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they are. But the what's his name Ishmael
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might have someone looking for him, you know, and have his his
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dark friends or have, you know, other people they might be
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looking for. I have a feeling Ishmael knows
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exactly where that motherfucker is at all times.
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He might, but I was just like. I'm just letting you know he
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knows where that movie is all the time.
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Dark Mother Yeah, because. Because all dark motherfuckers
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have feelers out. They always have.
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Move have people here, people there.
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They have they have certain ways of finding stuff, whether
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they're possessing Ravens that fly over and they can see what
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they see or whether it's like that.
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It was like The Last of Us where they have like have have roots
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in the ground. They could put their hand down
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and feel what the hell is going on and see things.
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It's like the dark villains in fantasy always have some kind of
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way to keep track of everything and find people and they're
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always outstandingly successful. It's like a 90% success rate,
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99, five percent success rate of finding people.
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I have a. Ishmael literally said I can't
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remember if this this episode and maybe the last episode, he
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says. I don't.
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Think we saw him in this episode?
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Yeah. We did at.
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The end at the end. OK.
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Did we see him in the 1st episode?
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Yes, they had that meeting, the meeting at the with with all the
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other people in Pat and fame was at the meeting and somebody.
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Where we thought the place to feed the little girl to the
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monster. Maybe that was where he said ran
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things he can hide. Oh yeah.
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Yeah, he 'cause he knows. Can't hide you.
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Can't hide from him, that girl, probably one of his.
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I don't know. Some something just seems so off
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about her. I don't know.
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I have. A question too.
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Yes, I'm to the point where I'm like, you're on the run because
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you found out that you are the Dragon Reborn.
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I understand people have needs, but you don't need to be
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developing no kind of relationship with nobody right
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now. Period.
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Man wants what man wants. I have a question.
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OK, so in Carehine where he he's doing the caretaking thing and
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looking after the people. OK, first it's like an insane
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asylum, but are these all men that have tried to tap into the
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force? No.
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I think it's just just a regular asylum.
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Yeah, OK. Second of all, at the end he
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gets to see that what's his name?
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Who got beat up? Logan.
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Logan, yeah. Did he?
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I can't remember if he saw if they, if they like he.
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He wasn't there when they were fighting, was he?
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No, but he saw them bring. Didn't he see them bring?
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He saw them bring them into the into Tarbalan.
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Yeah, yeah. That's what I was saying.
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Like he's seen him. I'm like and I I don't know.
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And I think he knows who he who he is based on conversations
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that probably I'm I'm trying to remember because the first
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season was so long ago. But I'm sure Moraine probably
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said something. And of course, you know, he was
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being paraded through the city as the false dragon, right?
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So given if you're the false dragon, that means you're a a
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man who can channel at least what from what we've seen and
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what we've heard, especially with stuff that Leandron has
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said, and they basically take the power from the man.
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So Rand would have known enough to be like, oh, what is man can
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channel? Or at least he could channel
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before the sisters got to him. But.
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But the problem, though, I think Mike may be feeling it, but sort
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of on the subconscious level, is that they told Lil Gang that
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they were going to lock him up in the basement until he's poked
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and prodded and studied until the end of his days.
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How did he end up? How did he end up out here in?
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This I do have a question about that too, because I can't.
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Remember, he's supposed to be locked up.
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Yeah. But also, I think when they said
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they were going to lock him up, this was before he was what What
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is it called when they take the power, when they're gentle or.
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Still. OK, so I think it was before
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that. So maybe once they took the
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power from him and he can't do anything, there's really nothing
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they can. They can study right because
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there's nothing left. If I have the if I have a desire
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to go back and watch that part of the season when I would.
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But if not. So I'll just take your word for
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it. Yeah.
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But either way, I I still think that they would keep him though,
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because, you know, at the time he was able to raise a fairly
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sizable army on his own. And you wouldn't really want to
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risk him getting out or, you know, doing something else.
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But that's the idea. Does the ceiling the ceiling
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take your memory too? Stealing.
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No. No, it doesn't.
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But you know him being he. Remembers everything that
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happened. Yeah, he does.
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I mean. For him being a man that can
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channel slowly, he's going to, he's going to eventually go
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crazy. So which is probably why they
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have him in the asylum. They're like, OK, you know what,
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this is something that's bound to happen.
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We might as well go ahead and just kind of lock him away, put
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him away from everything because I don't know, maybe they figure
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if they have him far away enough that he won't have an effect on
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anybody. But OK, let's go back to the
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Rand. Wait.
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Wait, hold, but hold on though he he was stilled.
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He's he's not going to go crazy anymore.
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That's that's why they gentle them steal them because they
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can't this this the the tank cannot make him crazy now so.
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He's as. Crazy as he's going to be.
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OK, OK. He's not going to get any worse.
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OK. That's why they.
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Yeah. So he has to actively have the
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the one power in him. He has to be actively touching.
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It OK, OK in order for OK. And and they can't.
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And shielding doesn't help because he he still because once
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you stop the shield he can touch it again.
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And. They don't have the ability to
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maintain Shields that long without getting tired.
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OK. So yeah, which is why they had
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to, it had to be like three of them at one time, trying to
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shield him when they had him. OK OK, so going back to Rand
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real quick and his lack of anonymity.
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So here it is again. Red hair going by your name.
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He can't be too far from Tarbulan because the fucking
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False Dragon is in the same place that he is.
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So it's not like he went all the way across the country where
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nobody could ever find him. All that I said I have to do is
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say, hey, we're going to go back and get low gain.
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And there Randy's like, he's not.
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For someone who's supposed to be dead, who told Moraine to tell
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his friends that he died, He's not doing a very good job of
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just trying to be under the radar.
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Again, they don't know. First of all, all they know is
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she had three boys from the Three Rivers.
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They don't. They don't really know his name.
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They may not really know what he looks like.
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You understand what? I'm saying his friends know what
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he looked like his. Friends do, but they think he's
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dead. So they, you know, we discount
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them. And actually at this point, they
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have probably gotten reports. Marines, probably they got spies
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everywhere. They probably all think this
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dude is dead. One of the three of his boys is
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dead anyway. But I'm I'm just saying that the
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amount of information that we have is way more than a lot of
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the characters in the show have. They don't have all this
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information. So he can have pretty big lack
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of anonymity because they don't know his name.
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Yeah, I would just feel. And right now it's just a rumor
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because Rain ain't saying shit to nobody about it.
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I don't know. I guess I would just say at
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least use a different name. Use a name like Matt.
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Matt is not conspicuous. You know what I'm saying?
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It's just like Matt can be a common name.
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Rand. Rand is not a common name.
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I'm trying to give him a more creative than they deserve.
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That's Mike's job. That's what Mike usually does.
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I'm on the wrong side of this. I'm going to go back to the
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other side. This is all bullshit.
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They need to fix all this crap. As a book reader, it's already
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hard, man. As a book reader trying to give
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them the benefit of the doubt, it's even harder because some of
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the stuff they do and some of the decisions they make, this
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don't make any sense to me. OK, so let's talk about it
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because you said something before we hit the record button
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about I, I don't think you really care for the episode too
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much. So what's going on as a book
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reader? I will say this episode was
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slightly better than the first one because they got some things
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kind of cooking. They hit some book things, but I
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feel like they just did it because there were things that
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happened in the book, but they were much more significant than
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for, for example, the Fade being strung up on the wall right in
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the village. Before that, we parent walking
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into the room and having the vision thing that we talked
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about last time. Well in the book it was ran
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because in the book Rand is with them chasing after the horn of a
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Lear. Ah.
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OK. Oh, oh, oh, yeah.
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But he's the one that walks in there and has a vision.
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OK. Not Parent.
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So OK so y'all want to do this special thing for parent?
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In the book there's another character who actually does this
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and they've mashed them up with Elias.
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Not only they mashed the other character up with Elias, they
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also gave a parent and Elias that dudes power that wasn't one
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of the. Who is Elias is that?
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That's a wolf, brother. The.
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The oh, OK, OK. Yeah, so there's another carrier
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called Sniffer, and that's what he does.
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He's he can tell what happened. He can smell, he can smell where
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fights have happened and he can kind of figure out they've given
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that to the IT has nothing, so do it.
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It's going to be interesting to see how they try to make this
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together. But I guess they thought that
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was a cool thing in the book. Let's just give it to these guys
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because it's somewhat makes sense.
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OK. That being said, it's just,
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yeah, I, I don't know. It's hard to put it in the
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words. It was another scene that was
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very interesting. Well, before we move on, I want
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to touch on something you just mentioned because it was a it
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was kind of a, not necessarily a debate we had with the last
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episode. But in this episode, I think
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they make it very clear that Perrin is seeing visions of what
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has happened in the past. And it's not just the
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assumption, he is actually seeing what has.
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Transpired. Which is weird because that's
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not, and I really hate doing it. That's not something from the
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book, because in the book, Rand is the one that walks in there.
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Rand would actually have the ability to do that.
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OK? That's how powerful he is.
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OK, so would you say that he's fair Voyant?
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Yeah, I guess. I saw that on Mike screen that I
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love like. Exactly.
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You saw, you knew it was coming. I'm glad we can have a
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clairvoyant werewolf on here and and like.
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He's not a werewolf. According to Anthony.
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He's not a werewolf. But I do find it interesting
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that the guy keeps referring to keep saying stuff about a pack.
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A pack a pack, right? Like a wolf.
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I'm thinking maybe they're going to This is speculation.
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This is not, This is speculation I kind of alluded to before.
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I'm thinking they're going to do like, because, you know, there's
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these theories about wolves having like a group memory, kind
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of like a hive mind. Yeah, that maybe there were
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wolves around when this happened and he would have access to
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those wolves memories. But that's good.
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I don't know, because a lot of very specifically said to him,
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you know, there's a difference. You know, it's good to be able
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to tell between a vision and reality.
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So I think they are very clearly trying to say that parent has
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visions kind of like but he has visions of the past where as
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men, you know who we met last season, she has visions of the
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future. So I think they are very clearly
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saying this is what 1 of parents skill sets is for the show.
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I know I'm. Just saying it doesn't make any.
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Sense I know, but you know. What make any sense?
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But I think at this. Point, and the only way I can
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make it make sense for me is that he's accessing memories
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that the wolves are aware of. Or it or it may be that you have
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to you have to turn off that what happens in the book part of
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your brain because. We've jumped that, we've jumped
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off that train a long. Time.
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Yeah. What did I tell you?
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They said 85% of this is made-up.
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Yeah, Only 15% of this is from the book.
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Yeah. So I called.
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Never mind. You know what?
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I call it bullshit is what I call it.
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But well, it could be one of those.
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I forgot what show I saw recently.
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And fiction. And it was like inspired by such
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and such. So I was like, OK, so they're
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taking some things from it, but they're not taking all the
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stores that I kind of think this is what this is.
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With the showrunner say was it's just another turning of the
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wheel. OK, dude.
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They're taking a statue of liberties with all this and
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they're doing. That I mean yeah they are
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because if all these people visions are not something that
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is common right among people. So now it's it was OK when you
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had men because that's what she that's what she can do visions.
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But if you start giving parents the ability to do visions, we
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already got stuff that he's got to be able to do that we got the
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body into. If y'all want to say that this
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is going to be a part of that, sure, you know, sure, I'll, I'll
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bite. He can see he got visions of the
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past even though we have no basis of foundation for why
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someone like him would have that ability.
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Or even the liars. But he has like really vivid.
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I mean, they were so good that he he did this vision started
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when he was outside of the building.
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Like he heard the woman outside of the building and thought that
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she was inside. It's not like he saw her.
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It's. No, he he saw somebody, he saw
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somebody close the window or he thought he saw somebody close
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the window. So he did see something.
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Yeah, but it's like, I mean his visions were just like crystal
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like for him crystal clear. And it's like I'm thinking is, I
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mean, this could be could he? He could still not be the
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dragon, but still be channeling and this could.
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This could prove to be a problem.
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This could I could I could see this.
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Stop. He's not channeling this.
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Stop. No, see, I'm just.
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I'm just. Saying I could see this driving
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him crazy if it, if it, if he, if he doesn't get control of it.
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Yeah, I don't, I don't think he's he's channeling, no.
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I'm I'm telling you. That has something that has
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something to do with the other stuff, the the wolf, the the
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wolf stuff. And yeah, yeah.
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Because the, the thing that I can buy that, you know, they're
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kind of doing a disservice to how influential the creator is
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with the wheel. And I can buy the fact that
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since he's Tavirian, which they had explained it before, they
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had really explained it as a Tavirian, they can sometimes see
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echoes in the wheel. And that way if you say that he
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is actually, as a Tavirian, is able to see echoes in the wheel,
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then that would make sense. But because Elias has the same
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problem, it doesn't really work that way, you know what I'm
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saying? Because then you if Elias is to
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Verren, you've already made Naive and Gwen to Verren.
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You don't have all these to Verrens walking around.
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Then you kind of dilute it and it's not as important as it
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should be. Does that make sense?
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Yeah. And I think even even more so
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with the fact that, like you said, they haven't really
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explained to us what that is. What being Tavirin, is it
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Tavirin, Tavirin? Yeah, they haven't even really
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explained to us what that is. So it's kind of like, OK, I, I
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mean, it would be one thing if we got an explanation in the
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first season kind of in the midst of all this, but we're now
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in Season 2 and we still don't know what that means.
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But y'all are giving us the traits and and the I guess kind
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of like the descriptors so. It's only going to become
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important for the writers when it's important for the story
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they're trying to tell. OK, that that's, I think that's
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what's going to happen. OK, OK, all right, well, let's
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move on to to some other stuff in the episode.
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I will say this Moraine is still getting on my nerves because the
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way she has been with LAN and again I get it she's trying to
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push him away she's but oh she is grating my nerves like this
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man almost died trying to protect you and you still got
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the nerve to treat him like trash to say harsh things to him
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and to so just she's getting on my nerves.
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She's trying to she's trying to drive, she's trying to save him.
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It's like that's all it is. It's like she's trying to drive
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him away so that he doesn't sacrifice himself for her.
00:22:18
Like she doesn't want him to have any be any primary parts of
00:22:21
this is like she's on a mission to kill herself and she doesn't
00:22:24
or I think that's probably it too.
00:22:26
She's she's done. She's like, I'm I'm trying.
00:22:29
This is probably gonna end me and that's fine.
00:22:31
I don't want Land trying to save me and getting killed himself.
00:22:35
She's still getting on my nerves.
00:22:38
I think she getting on the sister's nerves too, because
00:22:40
when I when I say Varon, Varon just has this very calm way
00:22:45
about her. You know, she's like very, very
00:22:48
much the opposite of her sister. But Varon is sitting there
00:22:51
talking to her and she's she's like, yeah, you didn't three
00:22:55
phase coming after you. She was like, you didn't think
00:22:58
we were going to ask questions about what that was about.
00:23:01
I have a feeling it has to be one of the boys that you brought
00:23:03
from, you know, from the Two Rivers.
00:23:06
And Moraine is sitting there with her, her hand on her knife
00:23:10
there and is like, OK, she was like, that's close enough, but I
00:23:15
just want to see how far you were going to go to protect the
00:23:17
dragon. OK?
00:23:20
I was like, you know what? There was looking at her like,
00:23:23
yeah, I'm talking to you all nice and calm, but pull that
00:23:26
knife if knife if you want to. I was like I'm I I want to see
00:23:30
the showdown because I think they all have gotten to the
00:23:33
point they're like, OK, you know what we understand you've lost
00:23:36
your power. You have kind of lost your way,
00:23:39
but you are bringing fades to our doorstep.
00:23:45
You are doing this. You are doing that you keep a
00:23:47
secrets. OK, you know what this bullshit
00:23:49
in a stop because now you're putting other people in you
00:23:55
putting other people at risk. And I understand you have your
00:23:59
mission and whatever you supposed to be doing for the
00:24:02
dragon, but I even needed you to ease ease up off my boy.
00:24:08
I mean, I guess she has no choice but to do that now
00:24:10
because she doesn't send Alana and her warders to come and take
00:24:14
him back to the White Tower. I mean, she was the one that was
00:24:18
banished from the White tower, not him, right?
00:24:22
I mean, technically speaking, he's her warder, so he I guess
00:24:26
he would be banished with her. But if the bond is not there.
00:24:31
Oh, they wouldn't. Because she made, she made the
00:24:34
oath, not him. Well, she was there.
00:24:38
I think there's some funny stuff going on with the way 'cause
00:24:42
even Varian said, well, there's loopholes and every oath.
00:24:46
And if anyone knows about loopholes, it's it's going to be
00:24:51
a ring. Because she hasn't lied and she
00:24:54
has misled people. Right.
00:24:57
But even when she made the oath to the ambulance seat, whatever
00:25:02
it was that the ambulance seat said to her, she didn't repeat
00:25:06
that word for word. She said something.
00:25:08
Yeah. So yeah.
00:25:11
Because what did she say? Or she told Land that Rand is
00:25:13
Rand is alive. He's like July, she's like, no,
00:25:18
you assume. You assume what she said was
00:25:22
what she said was. Rand is gone.
00:25:24
Rand. Is.
00:25:25
Gone. Rand is gone.
00:25:27
And I, I peeped that when she said it, when he came to her,
00:25:31
she said Rand is gone. I said, ah, I noticed she didn't
00:25:34
say Rand is dead because Rand was the one who was like tell
00:25:37
them I died here Brand, you know she can't lie.
00:25:40
But saying he's gone, yeah a lot of people take that word gone
00:25:44
and they assume that means dead. And it's been 6 months, y'all
00:25:48
ain't saying hide nor hair of them.
00:25:50
So why would he think otherwise? And you see why regular people
00:25:52
don't trust I said. I Yeah, even though everybody
00:25:55
knows they can't lie. But you don't believe a word
00:25:58
they say. Yeah, because they obviously can
00:26:01
can skirt around the truth, so. And I think that's the only
00:26:06
thing that I was thinking about when she was when she was kind
00:26:11
of telling Rand off. I mean, land off towards the end
00:26:16
when she was like, yeah, you were supposed to protect me and
00:26:19
you failed and blah, blah, blah. And what did he say to her?
00:26:23
He said, just tell me that. He said we were never equals.
00:26:26
Were we? Just tell me that and I'll
00:26:28
leave. And she was like, we were never
00:26:29
equals. I was like, I don't think she
00:26:32
feels that, but she does it. Huh.
00:26:37
She does Well, OK. She's telling the truth because
00:26:40
he's a king, and she is. She's from a house that has sort
00:26:46
of fallen. OK, so that's what that's what I
00:26:48
meant. I didn't mean to say it.
00:26:50
As in like she doesn't think that they're equals.
00:26:53
As in she's a butt, she's higher than him.
00:26:56
I think she thinks the opposite. But of course, she's not going
00:26:59
to clarify that to him because she's trying to hurt him and
00:27:02
make him leave. So what's the best way to do
00:27:05
that? Oh, we were never on equal
00:27:06
footing. Yeah, no, we weren't on equal
00:27:08
footing. He's automatically going to
00:27:10
think that as she thinks she's better than him.
00:27:14
So. But when I saw it, I was like,
00:27:17
yeah, you ain't telling the truth on this one.
00:27:19
I was like you telling it the way he means to hear it but
00:27:24
still say his. Full royal government name this
00:27:29
full Really. Very last syllable of it.
00:27:31
Like damn. Right, but.
00:27:35
Acknowledging the fact that he was a king.
00:27:38
Yeah, but she get on my nerves. I need her to get her shit
00:27:45
together. She get on my nerves really.
00:27:49
Oh, can we go back to the the deserted town and how passing
00:27:53
the fame just whip that face ass.
00:27:57
He's walking around with that dagger, isn't he?
00:27:58
Do we know that that was Pat and Fame?
00:28:00
Who did that? Though had to be he would be the
00:28:03
only other than the eyes to die with their powers.
00:28:07
He would be the only person making face off against the Fade
00:28:11
right now. Wow.
00:28:12
Because of that Dagger 0. Yeah.
00:28:17
Oh, yes, OK. And remember, he was also in
00:28:21
that meeting in the first episode.
00:28:23
So he's working for, obviously, he's maybe overcoming it because
00:28:31
his allegiance is going to be to that dagger.
00:28:37
Yeah, 'cause that's the, that's the dagger Matt had, correct?
00:28:41
Yep. OK.
00:28:42
With all that evil from that city they were in.
00:28:45
Right. But if he's already evil, it's
00:28:48
probably not going to affect him the way that he did Matt.
00:28:51
It's just going to kind of. He already is.
00:28:56
It's it's going to faint him in a you know, maybe in a different
00:29:00
way. OK, but it wasn't like he had
00:29:02
powers to begin with. Remember he it's like Matt Matt
00:29:05
was slowly turning to the dark side, had vain is he didn't he's
00:29:10
going to go all the way to the dark.
00:29:12
Side right. And it's going to give him,
00:29:15
probably going to give him powers.
00:29:17
OK, Yeah, it's. Going to be interesting to see
00:29:22
that's that's like the only thing really attracting with the
00:29:24
book for the most part. Oh, OK.
00:29:26
It's pad and fame. That fucker.
00:29:30
Oh. OK, we even seen him.
00:29:33
Right, we just seeing all the the damage and destruction he is
00:29:38
leaving in his wake. And they've been chasing him for
00:29:40
five months. Yeah, I'm, I'm trying to figure
00:29:43
out where we, where we going. He just leaving them on the wild
00:29:47
goose chase. And.
00:29:48
They've been around in circles. I mean, yeah, where he didn't
00:29:56
lead them to. OK, so since we're already
00:30:00
talking about that group, let's go on and and finish this out
00:30:02
because I have questions. So after they leave the
00:30:06
abandoned village, they find another village near like near a
00:30:10
river that they're going to stay at overnight, right?
00:30:14
So in the middle of the night, these soldiers come into the
00:30:18
village, snatch them all out their beds like start attacking
00:30:23
and fighting the village people and the soldiers.
00:30:27
So they all get into this fight and everything and eventually
00:30:31
they get defeated and captured and knocked out.
00:30:35
And then when when parent wakes up in the morning, they are all
00:30:39
on their knees. There's soldiers around them,
00:30:41
and then there's this big caravan that comes, and then
00:30:45
there's the lady with the long fingernails that we saw in the
00:30:48
first episode and Ishmael and somebody else.
00:30:53
Who are these people? Because they have powerful
00:30:55
channelers, women channelers. But The thing is, the women have
00:31:00
their mouths covered and it's almost like they're being
00:31:04
controlled. So I'm like, who are they?
00:31:09
Anthony Book Person. The the people that was that was
00:31:13
on the ships at the end of season 1.
00:31:16
Yeah, but who are they? What?
00:31:19
What are they like? The the people on the ships from
00:31:22
season 1. See, you're not going to.
00:31:24
You can't even tell us what you ain't right.
00:31:29
They're they're from another, they're from a, they're from
00:31:31
across the sea. They're called the Sean Chan.
00:31:35
OK. It is, yeah.
00:31:37
They're just a different a different group of people.
00:31:41
And they have channelers. Yes, remember they had
00:31:44
channelers all over the world. OK, but all over the world.
00:31:49
And, and they, there's a whole story behind those, those there
00:31:55
we'll probably learn later, but those are called the ones who
00:31:59
are colored, they have things on the.
00:32:03
And and the mouth and the things over the mouth.
00:32:05
Whatever they're they're called the money.
00:32:09
The money. OK.
00:32:10
And the ones who are controlling them are called the Sudan.
00:32:14
OK. But are they the?
00:32:17
Whole story were they were they trained from birth or were they
00:32:21
like captured I so die or something?
00:32:24
I guess we'll find out. Well.
00:32:26
I wouldn't say that, but like I said, their channelers all over
00:32:30
the world, so this is just how they deal with their channelers.
00:32:35
OK. That they they they captured,
00:32:37
but I'm sure they kill their men who can channel because a man
00:32:43
who can channel is crazy and will break the world.
00:32:45
So. And that, that and that goes
00:32:47
wherever, wherever in the world they're.
00:32:49
From all over the world. Yeah, yeah.
00:32:51
But these soldiers, when they came in, OK, so there's a lot of
00:32:59
them and they are fighting. But I have to say Parent and his
00:33:03
group, they were given as good as they got because once Parent
00:33:07
was able to get on his feet, once he was able to get a weapon
00:33:10
into his hands, he was like, oh, OK, let's start with some ass.
00:33:13
But the thing that really impressed me was seeing how
00:33:17
loyal was handling it because it took like 5-6, seven of them to
00:33:23
try to bring him down. And the.
00:33:27
Way you see how big that motherfucker is.
00:33:29
Yes, but, but but that's the thing, because when you think of
00:33:32
loyal, just the, the, the way his his personality has been
00:33:36
since we've been introduced to him in season 1, he doesn't seem
00:33:39
like a warrior, like he's a builder.
00:33:42
He has a very gentle personality.
00:33:43
He's always in a good mood. He's always positive.
00:33:47
So you don't think about him having that violent side to him.
00:33:52
But when they were getting ready to, they were trying to take him
00:33:55
down. He was like, Oh, no, this is not
00:33:57
what we going to do. And he started slamming folks
00:33:59
everywhere. And I was just like, whoa.
00:34:02
Oh. Yeah, oh, oh, Gear a pacifist.
00:34:06
But there's a thing in in the book that, yeah, the old Gear
00:34:13
gentle, but you don't want to make him angry.
00:34:15
Oh, I I can see why. Yeah, I can see why 'cause he
00:34:20
was smashing folks into buildings like up.
00:34:23
Here. Yeah, smashing them here and
00:34:27
throwing them in the river and drowning.
00:34:29
I was like, OK, but the only bad thing was they didn't have the
00:34:35
numbers because all you had was Heron and his group as far as
00:34:39
soldiers. Everybody else was just a
00:34:40
regular village person. And you see how the, the
00:34:43
Faldarans, you know, they spend most of their time protecting
00:34:49
the North from the Blight and, and Trollex.
00:34:53
So all they do is train the fight.
00:34:56
Yeah. And all they do is train the
00:34:57
fight. They train the fight.
00:34:58
The formations they use are for when they're outnumbered 'cause
00:35:02
when they face Trollix, they're outnumbered.
00:35:04
Yeah. You know so.
00:35:07
Intar Uno and and the younger one, yeah, yeah, they were like
00:35:13
they were, they were not playing around.
00:35:15
From that mistaken. They're all blade masters if I'm
00:35:17
not mistaken. OK.
00:35:21
Like Intar was was like slicing and dicing like you like he was
00:35:25
on the infomercial. I was like, damn, son, but what
00:35:28
do you expect from Dominico? I was like.
00:35:30
Right. I was like, okay, Dominico, get
00:35:32
it, get it, get it. But you saw him in the
00:35:35
background when they were dragging Karen.
00:35:37
He was he was cutting through them like he.
00:35:41
Was I was like how he was like just all over the and in the
00:35:47
house he was doing Of course they disturbed everybody while
00:35:51
they were asleep. So he had a shirt off while he
00:35:53
was sitting there slicing and dicing.
00:35:55
Then you see him come outside. Homeboy then took the time to
00:35:58
get dressed and still coming outside whooping.
00:36:03
I was like OK he was like hold on let me put let me put my vest
00:36:06
on. So y'all not slicing and dicing
00:36:08
up this chiseled body now let me whoop me.
00:36:13
They were fighting, but they were outnumbered.
00:36:16
I think if they had a few more soldiers on their side or if the
00:36:20
Sean, Sean Chen you said if they had fewer, maybe it would have
00:36:27
been a more even match. But the Sean Chen also came with
00:36:31
channelers and like I said, they use their full power and knocked
00:36:36
everybody out. So it's kind of like, what can
00:36:38
you do? Yeah.
00:36:39
And I was thinking, remember that so that technically they
00:36:43
are not one of the Oasis not to use the one power as a weapon
00:36:49
unless they're defending others. And apparently this group does
00:36:53
not have any problem with that. No.
00:36:55
So they're like, oh, OK, yeah, we gonna conquer folks because
00:37:00
it looked like y'all gonna try to make slaves out of these
00:37:03
people. What?
00:37:04
This what we doing. But I it, it seemed like when
00:37:08
they were marching, marching the girls up there up to them, it
00:37:12
didn't seem like they they didn't know what was up.
00:37:14
Because I think if they would have known what was up, they
00:37:16
probably would have done something to done something more
00:37:19
than just duck for cover. How about this stand together in
00:37:24
a straight line, something that you haven't done the whole time
00:37:27
you have been fighting, but you know that's needing over there.
00:37:30
Yeah. Yeah, because I mean, that
00:37:33
windstorm was, I'm looking at it now.
00:37:35
It's like they they blew. I mean, that was crazy.
00:37:41
Like, like they, they didn't stand a chance.
00:37:43
Like after that I was like, you can't do shit about that.
00:37:46
But yeah, if you, if they would have figured out some way to
00:37:50
buffer themselves, but I mean, they, they didn't have any idea
00:37:53
what was getting ready to happen.
00:37:55
So it's just like. Like they literally came in
00:37:58
while everybody was sleeping and caught them off guard, you know,
00:38:02
'cause parent was knocked out and then all of a sudden you
00:38:05
being pulled out the bed and dragged through the hall and
00:38:09
dragged down the stairs, hitting your, you know, your head being
00:38:12
bumped on the you don't have, you really don't have time to
00:38:15
kind of collect yourself at that point, 'cause you still trying
00:38:18
to figure out, especially you were in a deep sleep.
00:38:20
He's trying you just trying to figure out what the hell going
00:38:23
on. Like what what what is going on?
00:38:27
He didn't have time to prepare. The Sean Chain weren't using
00:38:30
source, they were using clubs because they were trying to
00:38:34
capture everybody. And not kill folks.
00:38:37
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:39
So I guess we'll see what, what long fingernails and Ishmael is
00:38:45
going to do with these people. But I was like, question was,
00:38:51
what's his name? Elias Is that was, is that the
00:38:54
other dude's name? He wasn't in that group that got
00:38:58
captured, was he? Because he didn't sleep in the
00:39:00
village? No, he.
00:39:01
Didn't. OK, he.
00:39:04
Ain't stupid. No, he ain't stupid at all.
00:39:07
He's probably one of the smarter people there.
00:39:08
Hey, you tried to tell a parent these Nacho people.
00:39:12
Right, this ain't your pact. Nacho Pact.
00:39:16
But. OK, when he said, when he, when
00:39:18
he, when she asked are they ready and Ishmael said they'll
00:39:21
have to be one thing. I'm like, are they?
00:39:27
It's like it's like like they're they're trying to use them or
00:39:30
get them ready to defend something.
00:39:32
I'm like, I'm I got confused. I was like, are they are?
00:39:36
They ready for what? Yeah, that's the question.
00:39:40
Yeah, we'll probably find that out next episode.
00:39:43
They be great to fight the dragon, Dragon Reborn?
00:39:46
Or are they getting ready to fight something?
00:39:48
No. Who's gonna be ready?
00:39:49
You. You literally just captured
00:39:51
them. You don't like, you don't even
00:39:53
know what their capabilities are except for the people who were
00:39:55
who was fighting against you. But that was only a handful.
00:39:59
So no, I think that question of ready for what is something
00:40:04
that's probably going to be answered in the next episode
00:40:06
because it's kind of like, what are they supposed to be ready
00:40:09
for? Right.
00:40:11
I mean, y'all have y'all, y'all, whatever it is, y'all going to
00:40:15
have to train them or y'all going to have to teach them or
00:40:18
whatever the case may be. But OK, let's go back to Tarva
00:40:24
Lawn because where do I want to start?
00:40:31
Do I want to start with Leandron and her stuff or this new
00:40:35
daughter air girl? OK, let me start with the
00:40:36
daughter air girl. I do not like this girl so far.
00:40:40
It's Galinda. It's literally Galinda.
00:40:43
It's literally Galinda and Alphaba.
00:40:45
Her and her and Gwain are are Galinda and Alphaba.
00:40:49
You can't tell me they're not. You cannot tell me they're not.
00:40:52
Well, it's not combative like Glenn, Galinda and Elphaba.
00:40:56
Word. I know it's like it's.
00:40:58
Like the it's like the popular, it's like the popular set.
00:41:00
It's like I kept expecting her to be like, I'm going to be
00:41:04
popular. Like I expected.
00:41:06
I expected her to try to give give a Dwayne a makeover and
00:41:10
make her make her be all the noise with all the boys or
00:41:13
whatever. No, she's too busy.
00:41:15
She's too busy being, I don't know, I don't want to say she
00:41:22
was being stupid, but she was. She was very.
00:41:26
She's being rich and naive. She's being rich.
00:41:29
I don't I don't even want, I would say more so ignorant
00:41:32
because if if she kind of like what what we talk about Michelle
00:41:38
and I talk about when the characters are outlanded.
00:41:41
If you've been raised a certain way and you don't have any other
00:41:46
idea of how the people exposure, yeah, quote, UN quote, yeah, the
00:41:50
the people below you or your subjects, As she said to Gwen,
00:41:54
if you have no idea how they live their way of life, how
00:41:57
they, you know what they're about, what their circumstances
00:42:02
are about, then you're going to come off kind of arrogant.
00:42:07
You're going to come off kind of entitled and that's exactly the
00:42:11
way she comes off when she's introduced.
00:42:14
Like she she's introduced with her moving into the novice area,
00:42:22
the novice quarters and she's got all her stuff.
00:42:25
And when it Wayne brings her pillows that were sitting in
00:42:28
front of it Wayne's door, she's like, Oh yeah, you could put
00:42:31
those down there. I don't know what to do with
00:42:33
this space. I've seen closets that are
00:42:35
bigger and stuff and the Wayne is just looking at her like.
00:42:39
OK. Or when or when she went into
00:42:41
the Gwen's room, she's like, oh, they oh, you don't have
00:42:43
anything. Oh, you, you did.
00:42:45
They didn't start you off with anything either.
00:42:46
Yeah, you just moved in too. I mean, they, they have a whole
00:42:50
bunch of rubbish in your room. And then she's thought that she
00:42:53
was like, oh, wait, anyway, sitting there like that's my
00:42:57
rubbish. But once she realized this is,
00:43:02
she sits down and she she has the whole conversation about,
00:43:08
oh, you know, I'm the, I'm the daughter.
00:43:10
And Wayne is like what? Like who are you?
00:43:14
What? Does that mean?
00:43:15
Yeah. Oh, I'm the heir of Andor.
00:43:19
I guess that's the name of their country.
00:43:21
OK, so I'm the heir of Andor. And then she goes into this
00:43:25
whole thing about, you know, some of the some of the best
00:43:29
pairings come from novices who were in adjacent rooms.
00:43:33
And don't you wonder what that's going to be like for us.
00:43:36
Like Wayne is looking at her like, bitch, I'm not going to be
00:43:39
your friend. I was like, this girl is just,
00:43:45
she's so clueless because she she says something kind of sort
00:43:50
of offensive and then something that's kind of stupid or kind of
00:43:55
naive, I guess. Yeah, naive all in the same
00:43:59
sentence. Like girl, do you?
00:44:03
I don't know. I mean, she was, she was, she
00:44:05
was raised sheltered. So it's like that's all she
00:44:07
knows. How she knows is what she's
00:44:08
been, she's been taught inside of her walls.
00:44:11
So it's like when she comes out of those walls, she has no idea.
00:44:14
Like she only knows like what they told her this was supposed
00:44:19
to be. She has, she hasn't experienced
00:44:21
anything. So yeah, she's going to she's
00:44:23
going to do, she's going to say stuff that's like off color, but
00:44:27
she doesn't see it as off color. She sees it as perfectly normal
00:44:30
because that's how she learned it.
00:44:32
It's like she saw her room and she was like, oh, this is not
00:44:35
going to do bring all my I need all my stuff from home.
00:44:37
Just just put it all in there and set it up.
00:44:39
And then she looked, she'll see I'll see a Gwen's room and be
00:44:43
like, oh, this is oh damn, they trashed her room too, huh?
00:44:47
Yeah, see, but she didn't mean it.
00:44:49
She didn't mean a bad. She just like she this is just
00:44:52
her experience. It's just how she is.
00:44:54
And I felt, I kind of, I almost felt bad for her when they made
00:44:57
her take all that stuff out of her room and it was back to
00:45:00
being trash. She was like.
00:45:02
I feel bad for her because my whole thing I.
00:45:03
Said almost. I said almost.
00:45:07
If you have been coming there for the last six years in the
00:45:12
what'd she say in the summer or whatever, then you should know
00:45:16
how they live and you should know how.
00:45:18
I mean, you didn't pick up anything when you came.
00:45:21
That's that's that's piss poor arriving because why would Iguen
00:45:25
need to give her a tour when your ass has been there long
00:45:29
more than Iguen has? Well, I mean, and that's what
00:45:31
I'm saying she's, I mean she readily admitted that she was
00:45:35
doing that to get to know Iguen better.
00:45:38
But I'm like, you've been there first.
00:45:43
You say you've come here for the last 6 summers.
00:45:46
So you didn't pick up on how the novices live or what the whole
00:45:51
like? Your process is.
00:45:53
Right, right, right. That's that's poor riding,
00:45:57
especially this is part of your country.
00:46:00
So it's kind of like why one, why are you going there for the
00:46:06
last six years? Because I mean, do the do the
00:46:10
acid. I have a summer camp program
00:46:11
that we can sign up for. Like what's the deal?
00:46:15
Like, why are you there for six, you know, six years straight,
00:46:18
but. I don't know.
00:46:21
So even like even a lot of the royal houses will send their
00:46:26
heirs especially especially girls whether or not they can
00:46:30
channel to be trained. Oh, that's right.
00:46:33
Because the Princess in. Was it Faudara?
00:46:38
OK, OK, OK. So that makes a little more
00:46:41
sense. Still trying to get used to this
00:46:43
world, you know? But it's very it's very similar
00:46:48
to I went, oh, oh, never mind, 'cause people don't know.
00:46:53
We have watch the doom, the Doom series.
00:46:56
It was with the Ben and Jesuit do.
00:46:57
Oh, OK. In June it's similar thing.
00:47:00
OK, OK. But when she first comes on the
00:47:06
screen, she does come off as a little bit, you know, like I
00:47:11
said, a little bit entitled, just a little bit arrogant.
00:47:15
I really don't care for a character that much.
00:47:17
And then like maybe towards the end of the episode where you see
00:47:21
her and a Gwen kind of sitting there talking and, you know, a
00:47:24
Gwen actually has someone to kind of talk about the
00:47:28
difficulties that she's been having with 9, even kind of
00:47:32
voicing a little bit of her jealousy, which yes, it is
00:47:36
jealousy, I think. But just the fact that she is
00:47:40
able to have someone to talk to that kind of makes me like
00:47:44
Elaine a little bit more because I'm like, OK, not a Wayne
00:47:47
doesn't have to feel kind of isolated and alone because
00:47:51
Nyneve is obviously not like she said, Nyneve is not there for
00:47:55
her when she needs her. But also at the same time, it's
00:48:00
kind of like you just met this girl.
00:48:04
You don't know who she is. You don't know what kind of
00:48:06
personality she is. Whatever.
00:48:08
Don't start off by telling her all your deepest and darkest
00:48:13
secrets and feelings, especially when it comes to your best
00:48:17
friend. I just that that's like a
00:48:20
breaking of the girl cold right there.
00:48:22
I'm not I wasn't too keen with that.
00:48:24
And then, of course, and I need comes in and she overhears this
00:48:27
after the evening she's already had.
00:48:30
It's just kind of like, this is a little bit of a sticky
00:48:35
situation, but yeah, I, I don't know how I'm going to feel about
00:48:39
this Elaine girl. Like, is she?
00:48:44
I'm assuming since they're introducing her, she's probably
00:48:46
going to play a big part in the season.
00:48:49
And they're pairing her with you, Wayne, which also means
00:48:52
she's probably going to play a big part in the season.
00:48:54
I'm just kind of, yeah, I'm a little iffy on her character
00:48:58
right now. Yeah.
00:49:00
I'm willing to give her a chance just because, you know, I she, I
00:49:05
think, I think she's going to be the character that learns that
00:49:08
that ends up like learning to get along and being being kind
00:49:14
of a kind of a the hero that not not necessarily doing something
00:49:18
overly heroic, but she's going to be the person that you kind
00:49:21
of never don't expect to do something like like, wow.
00:49:26
I think she's going to be that person that's going to just like
00:49:29
kind of wow us in and impress, impress us.
00:49:31
Like at the moment when we didn't, we don't think that
00:49:33
she's going to do something. I think she's going to.
00:49:36
I think she's going to come through.
00:49:38
I wouldn't. Alana was.
00:49:40
I'm sorry. No, no, you go ahead.
00:49:43
I was going to say we kind of get a hint to it when Alana was
00:49:46
talking to, I can't remember the the mistress.
00:49:50
Oh yeah, the mistress of novices.
00:49:52
Yeah. Yeah, when she was like, the
00:49:53
wheel is is giving us more powerful people.
00:49:59
Boys and girls. Because the dragon is coming and
00:50:02
he's going to need, you know, we're going to need these
00:50:05
weapons. Yeah, no.
00:50:07
And she mentioned Naive Gwaine and the Daughter Ear.
00:50:11
Yeah, she didn't mention it. The other one, not Ivan.
00:50:17
I can't remember the other guy's name.
00:50:18
I can't remember his name. The blonde haired 1.
00:50:20
He was the one that that mentioned those particular ones.
00:50:24
But yeah. Yeah, because 'cause if they had
00:50:28
the fighter forsaken, the will knows they had to.
00:50:30
They got it back. He got the wills, got to bounce
00:50:32
it out. Just got to bounce it out
00:50:34
because otherwise the is going to be worse than the last time
00:50:38
because at least last time all the Isodi were on the same
00:50:42
level. Yeah, we're.
00:50:44
Here the Isodi are all the the the they're weak.
00:50:48
They're not as powerful as the Forsaken.
00:50:51
And there's not as many of them because Valda killed a lot of
00:50:55
them in the last season, yeah. So yeah, yeah.
00:51:04
And I mean, I think even Varen mentioned it when she was having
00:51:10
that conversation with Moraine, because Moraine is thinking, you
00:51:14
know, oh, I, I guess like the other I said I all the other I
00:51:19
said I they're like, oh, the Dragon Reborn, we got to get rid
00:51:21
of him. We got to get rid of him, we got
00:51:23
to take his power and blah, blah, blah.
00:51:25
And Varen was like, yeah, you know, she was like, our sisters,
00:51:30
they think that we have to steal them and we have to take his
00:51:32
power because the Dragon Reborn will break the world.
00:51:37
But what they don't realize is our world is still broken from
00:51:41
the last time, and he may be the only thing that can fix it this
00:51:44
time. So, you know, I think that was
00:51:47
her way of kind of letting Moraine know.
00:51:49
Look, I got your back. We're on your side.
00:51:53
It's. Interesting she said that
00:51:55
because do you remember the the dark friend who tried to capture
00:52:02
Rand in season 1? She said something very similar
00:52:05
to Vrain because some of the dark friend think, well a lot of
00:52:10
them change because the world is a bad place and they think that
00:52:15
capturing, letting the the dragon do the dragon thing, even
00:52:22
if he's crazy, is going to fix the world.
00:52:25
So but the most part dark friends are the only ones who
00:52:28
talk about him fixing the world. Yeah.
00:52:31
So do you think, do you think that do you think that the the
00:52:35
way they were talking at the end of this episode, like are they
00:52:38
ready? They they're going to have to
00:52:39
be? Would that be them?
00:52:41
Like maybe finding rain and protecting him from the Isodai
00:52:45
it? Could be you're talking about
00:52:49
the talking about the villagers that got captured.
00:52:53
They think about Yeah. The thing is about the they.
00:52:56
They don't have an army yet. They have to bid.
00:52:58
They have to build up, build up something to be a resistance
00:53:01
against the eyes and eye. But they wouldn't.
00:53:05
Wait, you talk about the Shantan at the end?
00:53:10
I'm talking about Ishmael like. Yeah, Ishmael with Ashantan, he
00:53:14
wouldn't be trying to protect Ryan.
00:53:16
The Shantan brought their whole army.
00:53:18
They they, they don't need warriors.
00:53:21
Or maybe they just need. They just need.
00:53:24
They just need. What's his name?
00:53:27
They need parent. Maybe there's the parent in
00:53:29
them? There's there's a reason they're
00:53:32
doing what they're doing. OK, now I will say this though,
00:53:39
if Ishmael the way he was looking at Parent, if he knows
00:53:44
Parent is Parent, he could have envied everything if he just
00:53:49
killed Parent because he would know that Rand needs Parent to
00:53:55
win the final battle. If he would just kill Parent
00:53:58
right there, they'd lose. OK.
00:54:01
But he doesn't which? Is Yeah.
00:54:03
I think he just sensed that parent was different.
00:54:06
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:08
But I don't think he was like, oh, best friend, we got to get
00:54:11
rid of him. Yeah.
00:54:13
You know, yeah. OK, it's weird having read the
00:54:16
books, watching this. Yeah, yeah.
00:54:24
OK. It is.
00:54:24
It is cool that that that sort of he going back to the the
00:54:29
tower, back to Tarvalon. It is interesting that they said
00:54:33
that about the daughter Aaron, about them being so powerful,
00:54:39
you know, because that's our week.
00:54:41
You know, they they're going to need some powerful people.
00:54:43
Oh, this is what I was going to say.
00:54:44
Which is probably why they kind of push Nanny through through
00:54:47
this trial. But so there's really only one
00:54:51
Aja that wants to kill the dragon, and that's the red Aja.
00:54:56
Most of the tower or most of the eyes that I believe that we need
00:55:04
to capture the dragon and use him as a weapon.
00:55:11
He's going to be too crazy to lead.
00:55:13
We're just going to keep him, have him and then when the Dark
00:55:16
One comes, throw him at the dark, you know what I mean?
00:55:20
And, and let him and, but until then, we want to make sure we
00:55:23
cage him and keep him under control.
00:55:27
And so that's what that's what, that's what most of the eyes
00:55:31
that I want to do. They want to find him, capture
00:55:34
him and and have him for when the final battle comes.
00:55:39
So do they really think that capturing someone and keeping
00:55:45
them captive until they need him, do they really think that's
00:55:48
going to work out in their favor that he's going to be like, oh,
00:55:51
you know what? I'm going to go help these women
00:55:54
and these people who kept me captive and like.
00:55:59
I said I have been doing this for a very long time.
00:56:02
So they believe that's what they can do.
00:56:05
They they believe they can do that.
00:56:07
Capture him, cage him until it's time for final battle.
00:56:12
They. Don't need, they don't need him
00:56:14
to want to fight or they don't need in their mind they don't
00:56:18
need to want him to fight. They just know that men that can
00:56:21
channel are crazy and if we have him with it's time we open up
00:56:26
the cage and let him go at it. But that's what I'm saying, like
00:56:29
they're automatically assuming that they're going to keep him
00:56:32
in a cage and that when they let him out of the cage, he's
00:56:34
automatically going to go after. Yes, they that's what they
00:56:38
believe. Yes, they're not thinking about
00:56:42
what if the Dark One decides to try to pull him over to his
00:56:45
side. Right.
00:56:46
Or if the Dragon Reborn is like, y'all bitches kept me caged up,
00:56:51
I'm a go. I'm a turn around and fight.
00:56:53
Y'all though, I'm a like. Well, they they have, they have
00:56:57
ways of controlling. I mean, we haven't seen it.
00:57:01
We've only seen them steal seal. We haven't seen them try to do
00:57:06
the control yet. OK, OK.
00:57:11
I'm not, it's not a spoiler, but that's their plan.
00:57:15
But they would they try to try to give him any like give him
00:57:18
make him train more or give him any further training, OK.
00:57:22
No, because then they requires him not to be shielded.
00:57:25
Yeah. I was going to say that that
00:57:27
wouldn't work out so well for them.
00:57:29
No, no, no. I got you.
00:57:33
No. OK, so since we talked about the
00:57:36
red Asha, let's let's go to this whole thing with Leandra.
00:57:41
I can't stand her, boy. I can't stand her in the book.
00:57:45
I can't stand her here either. So.
00:57:47
But they, but they're trying. They're trying to make her
00:57:48
sympathetic, though. No, fuck that.
00:57:51
I mean there there are. There are different levels.
00:57:54
I'm with you. I'm just.
00:57:55
Saying there are different levels to this because one like
00:58:00
I mentioned in the last episode, you are trying to push 9 leave
00:58:05
now into you're trying to push her out of novice status and
00:58:10
make her accept it. Which is the next step so that
00:58:13
you can train her to channel and and to be in control.
00:58:18
Because as you stated in the last episode, you don't want 9
00:58:22
need to be in a position where men ever control her or control
00:58:26
her power. OK, I get that.
00:58:28
I'll have a problem with that part.
00:58:30
But your approach, bitch, Like, why would I want to do anything
00:58:35
with you, given the way that you treat me, the way that you talk
00:58:39
to me? And it's like for her to say the
00:58:44
things to naive is like, OK, yeah.
00:58:46
So we're going to go ahead and push you through these arches.
00:58:49
When my sisters ask you if you're ready, you're going to
00:58:51
tell them yes. And then that way I can train
00:58:53
you because I can try and accept it.
00:58:55
You can't train novices, but you can try and accept it.
00:58:58
First of all, that is a huge red flag.
00:59:01
Huge red flag because you are banned from from from training
00:59:07
novices. Technically speaking, not need
00:59:10
is only a novice. She hasn't done any of the work
00:59:14
to get to where you're trying to take her right now.
00:59:17
Granted, yes, she is the most powerful channeler in 1000
00:59:21
years, and even Alana's warders are both tired of hearing that.
00:59:24
They're like, yeah, in 1000 years, everybody keeps saying
00:59:27
that, but she hasn't done shit. But you had to push her.
00:59:33
And then later on when you go see this secret man in this
00:59:40
house that Moraine mentioned last season, which I thought I
00:59:44
was like, OK, she got a secret lover or something.
00:59:47
No, I think this is different. I think that's her child.
00:59:49
Yeah, that's. Her.
00:59:50
Son, I think that's her child because they they very she very
00:59:54
specifically mentioned about how the one power allows them to
01:00:00
live for hundreds of years because it slows the aging
01:00:02
process and when she first walks in and she sees the guy that
01:00:06
this guy sickly in his bed she's calling him my darling, my
01:00:09
darling. But then after everything that
01:00:11
happens when I need. She says, my boy, my sweet,
01:00:14
sweet boy, I was like, oh, that's your child that you have
01:00:17
been caring for for this long. But here's my thing.
01:00:21
Yes, I understand you're upset that Naive has followed you,
01:00:25
that she has found out your secret.
01:00:29
Naive could have easily been like, oh, I'm telling on you.
01:00:33
I'm telling your secret. She could have easily left.
01:00:35
But instead she sat there and she tried to give you some
01:00:39
helpful advice. OK, so you're giving him this,
01:00:42
but it's helping him in this way, but his heart is still in
01:00:47
pain. It's not helping him.
01:00:49
This is what you can do to help ease it.
01:00:51
And what did she get for her trouble?
01:00:53
She gets a slap and landed like literally threatens her and
01:00:57
throws her out. And I'm like, I understand that
01:01:01
you are emotional because you just realized that what you have
01:01:05
been doing for him for however long you've been doing it is
01:01:08
actually still hurting him. Like you are not.
01:01:11
You're not easing his pain at all.
01:01:14
Bitch. She trying to help you save your
01:01:16
child and you want to attack her and slap her and then get mad at
01:01:21
her. Oh, if I knew, if I knew, if I
01:01:24
knew what I know now, I wouldn't, I would take all this
01:01:27
back. I wouldn't sing you for she
01:01:30
tried to help you. And you still being nasty.
01:01:35
You still being. Oh, I just.
01:01:36
Yeah, I'm with you, Anthony. I don't like her.
01:01:39
I don't like her. And the sharp cheekbones.
01:01:42
I don't know. Something about that just makes
01:01:44
it even worse. You know, I, I give the writers
01:01:49
of this show a hard time, but here I'm going to give them a
01:01:52
little bit of credit. Robert Jordan wrote a lot of his
01:01:57
characters very, very one and two-dimensional.
01:02:01
Like they have no depth whatsoever.
01:02:03
Like a light, like I'd say lighter.
01:02:06
Leandrian is a straight up evil right?
01:02:10
It's no if, ands or buts about it.
01:02:12
She's this bad. This is bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
01:02:16
I can tell. I, I give them a little bit of
01:02:19
credit for trying to give her some depth by giving her a back
01:02:25
story. This is her son and, and, and
01:02:28
she's trying to take care of him.
01:02:29
And now she realizes she's been hurting him.
01:02:32
Giving her a little bit of depth, giving her a little bit.
01:02:36
It's very hard to be sympathetic for her because she's so bad.
01:02:40
But I give them credit for at least trying.
01:02:43
Trying. I give them credit for that is
01:02:47
going to be successful. I don't know, Do I buy it?
01:02:50
Do I believe it? No.
01:02:52
It still feels like it's self-serving, like she's trying
01:02:56
to help him, but she doesn't want anyone to know that she has
01:02:59
a son. Yeah, which is so weird because
01:03:02
it's like, how did you, how did you make it through nine months
01:03:07
of pregnancy in the tower with nobody noticing?
01:03:12
Well, we of course she became a nice to die.
01:03:14
Yeah, we, we don't know the circumstances of her, you know,
01:03:19
and, and it could be the reason why she hates me.
01:03:21
Maybe she was raped. We don't know.
01:03:22
Maybe she was sexually, I use our word.
01:03:25
Maybe she was sexually assaulted.
01:03:27
By the Dragon Reborn. Really.
01:03:31
No, no. I'm just saying, no, I mean
01:03:36
there, I mean the there's, I mean maybe This is why she has
01:03:39
such a negative. Something could have happened
01:03:42
like that to give her such a negative view of men.
01:03:46
She's like fuck all of them. I think the being assaulted part
01:03:51
is enough. Why do?
01:03:52
You do the Dragon Reborn in there though.
01:03:54
I think the being assaulted part is enough.
01:03:56
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm not saying that's not, you
01:04:01
know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not trying to minimize that part of
01:04:04
it. I'm just saying that I'm just
01:04:06
saying reason that she that she's mad at these people.
01:04:09
She's that she's mad at any she's probably mad at any guy
01:04:12
that has a high IQ. She's going to kill.
01:04:14
She's like, you smart motherfucker, I'm killing your
01:04:16
ass. Man, period.
01:04:18
I mean, just like when Matt and Men in this episode, you know,
01:04:22
Matt is whenever Leandron is out of the cells, wherever they have
01:04:28
him, you know, he's trying to, he's trying to take some of the
01:04:31
bricks out of the wall and he he succeeds and finds out that it
01:04:35
leads to another cell where Men is.
01:04:38
Men is the seer from last season who we last saw trying to escape
01:04:43
when everything was happening. Well, apparently she didn't get
01:04:45
very far 'cause she's in Leandra's cell and she asked
01:04:49
her, she asked Matt. She said, So what are you in
01:04:53
for? She was like, what did you do to
01:04:55
the red or to the blonde? She said, or are you here?
01:04:58
Is it, like, a sex thing? You know, she looks like the
01:05:00
type that would, you know, do something like that.
01:05:02
And Matt was like, I don't think I'm her type.
01:05:05
I think she likes her men dead. Like, like, yeah, I don't think
01:05:11
it'll be that, but OK. Let me ask you a question about
01:05:14
Matt's whole setup because we've seen this in the last episode,
01:05:20
and we see it in this episode. Whenever Leandro leaves, he
01:05:24
walks over to this, what I thought was a set of dressers,
01:05:28
and he pulls it down off the ground and nothing ever comes
01:05:31
out. I was like, what is that?
01:05:32
Just like a a fake, like a showroom display dresser that
01:05:37
she had. Why even?
01:05:39
Why even have that in the cell? Right.
01:05:41
Like what purpose does it serve? Does it do?
01:05:44
Any I think, I think that I think he's he probably, he
01:05:47
probably sealed it shut. I mean, she's not going to check
01:05:49
it. Why would she check it?
01:05:51
There's no point, no point in unless he does something that
01:05:53
he's not supposed to do. How would he feel it though?
01:05:55
Because it's not like he has a whole bunch of supplies at his
01:05:59
at his disposal in. Several changes, several changes
01:06:02
of clothing, you know, few extra pair boots in the armoire, you
01:06:07
know, whatever. You can figure out a way to jam
01:06:09
to jam clothes. I mean, it's like.
01:06:14
With what? The fact, the fact that he what?
01:06:16
The fact that that closely resembles adhesive that is there
01:06:21
in the cell by. Saying that he's I'm saying I'm
01:06:23
saying something that would prevent them from opening.
01:06:27
But why even have an empty? Even if it's empty, why even
01:06:29
have an empty wardrobe in the cell?
01:06:34
Play. Oh no.
01:06:35
I mean, what's? The matter, it's like the the
01:06:38
whole thing is the thing that got me is that that he's digging
01:06:41
around this and he's he's managing to he's man, he does.
01:06:45
He doesn't have, he can't walk around like in Shawshank
01:06:47
Redemption and and dump and dump pieces of wall out in his pants
01:06:51
like, you know, while, while he's walking.
01:06:53
No, he can just let it fall behind that empty ass wardrobe
01:06:57
because like you said, it's not like she's checking it.
01:06:59
It's probably a pile of dust sitting up under there that's
01:07:04
just sitting there. And I mean, what is she going to
01:07:06
do? Come and inspect the room every
01:07:07
time she sees. Him I I would think it was a set
01:07:10
up anyway, because she would. The engine ain't stupid.
01:07:15
She would know if a spoon was missing from a dish she gave
01:07:18
him. Like come on now.
01:07:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, but, but she, but
01:07:22
she's arrogant enough to think that he's not smart enough to
01:07:25
figure out a way to try to get out of here.
01:07:26
It's like. Like, OK, I would buy that
01:07:29
explanation because, I mean, Matt is a man.
01:07:31
She probably thinks he's too dumb to try to figure out how
01:07:35
how to get out. Like, he just been sitting there
01:07:37
chilling for the last six months.
01:07:39
Like, oh, I ain't got nowhere to go.
01:07:40
No, Matt is like, I need to get the fuck out of here.
01:07:44
And unfortunately he tries, but like I said, he gets he sees
01:07:49
that men is in the cell next to him and then he gives her the
01:07:53
spoon so that she makes a larger opening and then she comes
01:07:57
through so that they can just kind of chop talk chat.
01:08:01
They've both been six months without, you know, companionship
01:08:04
without seeing other people. And I think it's interesting
01:08:09
that Matt does because I'm trying to remember if he
01:08:12
actually saw her in the first season.
01:08:15
But I was like, Matt, you don't, you don't recognize that chick.
01:08:18
She's the one that served y'all drinks, you know, and she she
01:08:22
saw what was going to happen to all of them.
01:08:24
But. Was he in?
01:08:27
Bad riding, I know. I think he was the.
01:08:30
Man, I don't think he was. Yeah, he wasn't.
01:08:34
He was in the I think this was before.
01:08:39
I'm trying to think. Because he wasn't with him.
01:08:45
Did she read? Did she read?
01:08:45
Him. Oh, no, no, no, I think she saw
01:08:47
him in in a vision with I think maybe she saw him in a vision
01:08:52
and a vision she saw when she looked at Rand.
01:08:56
I think she saw him. And then I think that was the
01:08:58
same vision she had in this episode, right?
01:09:01
Because she saw a vision right before she went back to her own
01:09:04
cell of Matt stabbing somebody. And when he put the person on
01:09:08
the ground, it was Ram. I think that's the same vision
01:09:11
she had in the first season if I'm not mistaken.
01:09:15
I can't remember. Maybe it might be.
01:09:18
So. But I mean, there's so many
01:09:22
visions of Ran getting stabbed by people.
01:09:24
I think there's visions of parents stabbing him.
01:09:26
His vision. I mean, it's like everybody
01:09:28
wants to stab him. Even me.
01:09:29
I want to stab him. Shit put me in, put me in the
01:09:32
vision. You just.
01:09:35
He he should know. He I guess he ain't smart enough
01:09:38
because why would she be getting the bottle of wine every week?
01:09:42
You know why? Why I?
01:09:44
Thought about that too. I was like so.
01:09:46
I'm like, is this a set up? Yeah, that did kind of feel that
01:09:50
way because she seemed a little, she seemed a little too chipper
01:09:57
for someone who's been locked up.
01:10:00
But I mean, I guess, I guess if I was locked up and I had wine,
01:10:03
that would probably make things a little bit easier too.
01:10:06
But yeah, maybe. I think it's since she's a
01:10:09
clairvoyant. Maybe they're using her, using
01:10:12
her gifts to see, to try to see things.
01:10:15
You think she would have told them that she's well, Yeah, but
01:10:17
would. You tell if you.
01:10:20
If you knew that, that might get you.
01:10:22
It might lighten your load. As far as the senses that you're
01:10:25
serving, yeah, you might do it. You might give me give me a jug
01:10:28
of wine every now and then. Yeah, sure.
01:10:31
Yeah, maybe like or if I was not.
01:10:35
Killed. I was I'd be like, yeah, you
01:10:38
know what? You know what helps my powers?
01:10:40
The the the was the juice of a grape fermented.
01:10:46
You ever hear that? Yeah.
01:10:48
Yeah, I I wondered that too. Like, oh, is this a setup?
01:10:51
Because you you're being mighty friendly to somebody that you've
01:10:56
never met before. When we met you the first time,
01:10:59
you were very weary to talk to anybody.
01:11:03
And I hope they don't open those doors at the same time because
01:11:05
that's just going to cause a cross wind that goes through the
01:11:07
bricks and they will be like, fuck is that?
01:11:12
Well, now because he's going to he's going to push that that
01:11:15
impact if you. Don't stop talking.
01:11:16
About that, I'm just saying I just don't understand like you
01:11:22
just got this this piece of thing that he just pulls down
01:11:25
pulls up and just like what is what is the purpose?
01:11:28
What is its purpose? I don't know, but I'm sure he's
01:11:32
putting the bricks back because. Yeah, but there's nothing in
01:11:36
between them because he already scraped it out.
01:11:38
So they're just bare bricks. There's nothing to prevent a
01:11:42
breeze to go from going through them.
01:11:44
Well, the wardrobe will protect the breeze.
01:11:50
I will mention that wardrobe as as many times as you mention how
01:11:53
much you hate ran. So there.
01:11:56
That's long as long as you don't long as you don't say as many
01:11:58
times as I tell, say parents. A werewolf, I mean.
01:12:02
Yeah, no, that that could be a drinking game if I was still
01:12:05
drinking. Be like parents Werewolf.
01:12:08
Here we go, Luke. Yeah.
01:12:10
But I'm trying to think, is there anything else that we need
01:12:14
to talk about in this episode? Anything.
01:12:16
Rand Rand actually working and we haven't.
01:12:21
Talked about Errol, yet we haven't talked about.
01:12:23
Yeah, Errol. Errol teaching him so they they
01:12:27
OK because in the books you know Rand is with him at fall dark.
01:12:31
What what he meant Land. Land started teaching him the
01:12:35
forms. OK.
01:12:36
Of fighting. So here they have this new
01:12:39
character that they've created, Arrow, and I guess we assume
01:12:43
that he's teaching Rand a little bit.
01:12:47
Yeah, 'cause he's using the different term terminology.
01:12:52
Yeah, yeah. And Rand also said something
01:12:54
about. So can you teach me those forms?
01:12:58
Yeah, or he said maybe I can sneak my sword in again and you
01:13:02
can see it because he lost his hair and blade.
01:13:05
Yeah. But the interesting thing about
01:13:07
that whole conversation is, you know, one thing ran with, you
01:13:11
know, with a job with this old guy that he is obviously kind of
01:13:15
developed a rapport with. But then you have this asshole
01:13:19
orderly over here on the side who basically makes Errol just
01:13:26
kind of discomforted, you know, by you treated.
01:13:29
As PTSD. Yeah, yeah.
01:13:33
And then he's very flippant about it.
01:13:36
And then he's he's kind of like bragging to Ran about the fact
01:13:42
that, yeah, you stuck in here with this old man.
01:13:44
At least I get to go outside with some of the more important,
01:13:50
you know, patience and I get to see the sun.
01:13:53
So you sit here being nasty to Ran.
01:13:56
And Ran was like one day you going to meet the wrong person.
01:14:00
And it was like, who is it going to be you?
01:14:02
Well, as a matter of fact. But before we get there, I think
01:14:07
it's it's cool that Errol, when he sees Rand, he says, oh, now
01:14:13
you man, it's time to fight. Oh, so he recognized me.
01:14:17
Even though his head is shaved, he's still we're supposed to
01:14:21
know that he still has features of that.
01:14:24
Yeah, but I love the way that Rand is just so patient with him
01:14:28
because obviously they go through this routine every day,
01:14:31
every day. And Rand is like, yeah, you
01:14:34
know, the IO war was, you know, it's it's over.
01:14:36
It's been 20 years. Yeah.
01:14:39
And I thought, I thought maybe this was sort of like a side
01:14:42
reference or a nod to the fact that a lot of the things that
01:14:45
are happening are things that have been repeated over and over
01:14:49
again in the cycle of the will. Because we're supposed to know
01:14:53
that there's always a turning of the wheel, there's always a
01:14:56
Dragon Reborn. And if it doesn't work out, it
01:14:59
starts all over again. Yeah.
01:15:01
So I just thought it was, I thought in him saying that we do
01:15:05
this every day. We go through this every day.
01:15:07
I was thinking, yeah, that's that's sort of how the wheel
01:15:09
works. Yeah.
01:15:11
OK, it's kind of like the Wheel's version of 51st dates.
01:15:18
I've seen what you did there. That was.
01:15:20
Yeah, that's funny. Yes, I'm going back to this
01:15:23
asshole orderly. Yeah.
01:15:26
You sit here asking Ran. So who's you know who's going to
01:15:28
be the person? The wrong person.
01:15:30
You. As a matter of fact, yes it is
01:15:35
because his powers. For.
01:15:37
Evil that evening. But see, that's the thing, I
01:15:39
don't control it. I don't think Ran can control
01:15:43
his powers yet because I think his whole purpose when he
01:15:50
catches old dude in the market that evening, I think he really
01:15:55
just wants to rough him up for scaring Errol and being being
01:15:59
mean to error. I think really that's his only,
01:16:04
that's his only purpose. And then of course he starts
01:16:08
channeling a little bit and he gets a little rough with the
01:16:11
dude and like completely knocks him out.
01:16:13
I thought he was dead at first and completely knocked him out.
01:16:17
And I was like, oh, and then you hear like the little whispering
01:16:20
in the back because that's the one thing about Ram.
01:16:22
We we hear something whispering to him, like something reaching
01:16:25
out, something trying to, I don't know if it's trying to
01:16:29
control him, trying to influence him, just trying to like be the
01:16:32
little tap on your shoulder. But I think that thing, whatever
01:16:36
that is, was the one that say, yeah, you know what?
01:16:39
If you hurt this dude bad enough that he can't go to work, they
01:16:43
don't have to replace him. And sure enough, that's what
01:16:45
happens the next morning when Rand goes to work.
01:16:47
They're like, yeah, so something happened to old boy in the, you
01:16:52
know, in the market, and we need somebody to fill that position.
01:16:57
What? OK I have a question in theory
01:17:01
so can the Ishmael and all of them feel when Rand uses his
01:17:10
powers? I'm going to guess no.
01:17:18
I'm thinking yes. Anthony's kind of taking his
01:17:20
time to think about it. I I'm going to guess no.
01:17:26
I don't know the way he way he was working and not answering.
01:17:28
I'm thinking, I'm thinking that that's going to be a point.
01:17:31
That's going to be how they find them.
01:17:32
So that that was. The I can, I can tell you this
01:17:34
because they've they've changed so much from regarding the power
01:17:39
and how channeling looks or whatever.
01:17:44
I can tell you in the book, no. OK.
01:17:48
They can men can see men channel, they can see the weaves
01:17:53
and women can see women weaves. But the opposite 6 cannot see
01:17:59
the weaves. OK, they can tell usually how
01:18:04
powerful some of these this, how a lot of conflicts get resolved
01:18:09
very quickly because they can tell if someone is considerably
01:18:13
more powerful than them now. Feeling some.
01:18:16
Yeah, feeling someone channel No, because if they could do
01:18:19
that then it would be easy for the acid to track down every.
01:18:25
Yeah. Man in the world, so yeah, but.
01:18:29
That's. True, but I know you
01:18:30
specifically talking about Rand himself right now.
01:18:34
He would he would just be like Logane is a very powerful male
01:18:39
Chandler. OK, it would be what they would
01:18:41
feel. But they I don't think they do
01:18:44
and that they don't in the book. So I'm going to assume they're
01:18:49
not in the show. But you remember in the first
01:18:52
scene of this episode where he had where Rand was having the
01:18:57
vision where he had killed everyone and the voice told him,
01:19:00
you you're, you killed them all or you will kill them all.
01:19:05
Then he got to hear. Then again the voice told him.
01:19:09
They say you will kill him or kill him or something.
01:19:12
Yeah, I think that's what it says, that kill him or
01:19:15
something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:19:18
He's, he's, he's hearing something.
01:19:20
OK, I, I don't know if I want to say this.
01:19:27
See, I'm probably going to be wrong.
01:19:28
He's going to be one of those things just like in Shadow of
01:19:30
Bone when they're all like, oh, OK, Mike.
01:19:33
And then next thing you know, when he gets blown apart, I just
01:19:36
was gonna be like, God God damn it.
01:19:43
I can't shake the feeling that that him losing it has something
01:19:47
to do with low gain. I just.
01:19:50
I just feel like, in what way? Logan, OK.
01:19:55
Logan is the one that's in that that Yan was taken care of out
01:19:59
in Sanctuary, right? I'm trying I'm trying to make
01:20:01
get the names name. Straight.
01:20:02
The one that was the Chandler that got that got he?
01:20:05
Was the false dragon. False Dragon.
01:20:08
Yeah. Why am I?
01:20:11
I just. I just have, I have a feeling
01:20:13
that somehow he got like a semblance of his power back and
01:20:19
it's and somehow he's. This might be my overactive
01:20:23
imagination and that somehow he's reaching out to Ran.
01:20:28
Somehow I. Don't think so.
01:20:31
OK, fine. You it's fine.
01:20:33
You know what? If there's any consolation, your
01:20:37
instincts are good. OK, because I had to wrong.
01:20:41
I would say wrong person but the instincts are good.
01:20:44
I'm gonna be also mentioned another false dragon who's very
01:20:47
important. Mazaram tying.
01:20:50
Yes, I was. You know what?
01:20:51
I was gonna ask about that because I was like, that's the
01:20:54
first time I've heard that name. Yeah, that's going to be the
01:20:57
next false dragon ever going to hunt down.
01:21:00
OK. Or I'm sorry, we don't know he's
01:21:03
false yet. Oh, OK, but but they think OK,
01:21:06
but he's. As audience know that Rand is
01:21:10
the Dragon to be born. We know it, Moraine knows it.
01:21:15
Veron kind of knows it. Yeah, I don't know if we
01:21:24
actually told him he's his dragon.
01:21:26
Really. Did she really say it?
01:21:28
No, I don't think she told him. I don't know, that's kind of a
01:21:32
bit, I mean. Because I think, I think if she
01:21:34
said Ram was the the the Dragon Reborn, I think Lamb would be
01:21:39
able to figure out that Rand ain't dead, especially when she
01:21:44
says, I don't think this was the last battle.
01:21:46
I think this was the first one. Yeah.
01:21:48
He would have been able to put together that Rand is not dead
01:21:51
if she had said, oh, yeah, by the way.
01:21:53
Yeah, no. But I think they did the name
01:21:55
drop that he's that Maz Mazram time is going to come back
01:22:01
another time. He's going to come back up
01:22:02
again. But Mike, don't feel bad.
01:22:06
You, you were your instincts are right.
01:22:09
You just got the wrong person. I'll leave you at that.
01:22:12
See. I'm, I just, I'm for sure
01:22:15
thinking that somebody is trying to influence him, but they but
01:22:19
he's not. Oh.
01:22:19
Absolutely. But and and I know that it has
01:22:23
something to do with his channeling, like every time he
01:22:26
channels that it, it makes the connection a little bit stronger
01:22:29
it seems. So I'm looking forward to.
01:22:31
Seeing that you're new to Anthony?
01:22:33
Yes and yes. The more you channel, the faster
01:22:37
you get to crazy. Gotcha.
01:22:40
Yeah, yeah. I figured that from the first
01:22:42
episode of the the very first episode.
01:22:45
Yeah, from Boys Town, the fast you get the crazy and yes, it
01:22:50
it's obvious that someone is influencing him.
01:22:53
Yeah. OK.
01:22:54
Is it the dark one? Is it Ishmael?
01:22:58
Is it the? Name.
01:23:00
Is it Matt? Is it Mazaram?
01:23:02
Is it parent? Who knows?
01:23:05
Not OK. So I look, I will say it's
01:23:07
definitely not matter Parent, because it sounds like the
01:23:10
person who's trying to influence him.
01:23:13
It's almost like they're trying to influence him to do bad
01:23:16
things. And I don't think Parent and
01:23:18
Matt would do that. If you are going to rewatch this
01:23:22
episode, pay very careful attention to how those
01:23:25
statements are worded. OK.
01:23:30
He didn't. He didn't say kill them all.
01:23:33
They said you will kill them all.
01:23:37
OK, OK. There's a difference.
01:23:42
True. OK.
01:23:46
Let's see. Alright, because do we know?
01:23:50
No, I'm not going to say it because I'm trying to remember
01:23:53
how much we know about the last Dragon last season.
01:23:58
Berry Gordy's best film, I mean, oh, sorry, my bad.
01:24:03
We were supposed to talk about something about something else.
01:24:05
Go ahead. Yeah, OK, OK.
01:24:08
And then of course, we're. Also only that can make me
01:24:11
rewatch season 1. I I'm not sure how much we know
01:24:14
about the the first dragon. Yeah, I thought about that too,
01:24:18
like, oh, should I really go back and watch it?
01:24:20
But time, who has the time? But I guess I, I guess I figure
01:24:24
out some time to do it. Instead of rewatching Scandal,
01:24:28
I'll go back and rewatch The Wheel of Time Season 1, just
01:24:34
also because I I wanted to be fresh in my head both seasons
01:24:38
when the new season comes out in two weeks.
01:24:42
So yeah, that might be something I do, yeah.
01:24:45
Oh, oh, yeah. And then that clip last season
01:24:48
when Liz Theron was talking to, I forgot what her name was, they
01:24:52
were speaking in the Old Tongue. Oh yeah, in the final, that
01:24:56
final episode, yeah. Yeah, in in this episode, what
01:25:00
was the Sean Chan speaking in the Old Tongue?
01:25:04
Oh yeah. Oh.
01:25:07
Yeah, OK, OK, alright. Interesting.
01:25:13
OK, so the is there anything else that we need to talk about
01:25:17
with this episode 'cause I think we covered all we covered?
01:25:20
How they they were Miranda Lane. We're talking about how they
01:25:22
met. Oh yeah, that was the prequel
01:25:25
novel, The New Spring, if you ever want to read that.
01:25:29
Oh, that's what they meant. OK, but yeah, that just that
01:25:35
just goes back to Moraine being an ass and me me not liking her
01:25:38
in this episode. So.
01:25:41
Oh, we talked about Selena Randon bed where she was like,
01:25:45
who are you thinking about? Yeah, yeah.
01:25:50
They're using each other to forget about their past loves.
01:25:52
But she's like, Oh yeah, being with you makes me feel whole
01:25:55
again. Yeah, yeah.
01:25:57
What is it? She says.
01:25:59
You can help me remember, and I can help you forget.
01:26:02
Forget. Yeah, but she was like, yeah,
01:26:05
the, the person that she loved just kind of shattered her whole
01:26:08
world. I was like, I wonder, was
01:26:11
Ishmael? I I don't know why I'm thinking
01:26:13
that, but I told you, from the moment she was on the screen, I
01:26:16
was like, I don't like her. Something about her seems off.
01:26:19
I feel like she's a spy or she, I don't know, Something is just
01:26:25
I I don't know. And the fact that Rand is so
01:26:27
comfortable with her, I just something about her ain't right.
01:26:33
So. Yeah, OK, Mike, I know you got
01:26:37
some shout outs before we close this out.
01:26:39
What you got? Alright.
01:26:39
Shout out to the parallels with parent and Elias relationship
01:26:43
and Leandron and 90s relationship where you have the
01:26:47
student with relatively new powers and the seemingly
01:26:49
untrustworthy expert trying to lead them and it's like they're
01:26:54
both doing they're both doing almost kind of the same thing.
01:26:56
Where like the person with the new powers absolutely has wants
01:27:00
nothing to do with the other person.
01:27:06
That's because Leandron ain't no seemingly she is untrustworthy.
01:27:12
Yeah, I mean, Elias is basically too.
01:27:14
It's like he's shady as fuck. I don't trust that buffer at all
01:27:18
because I mean he he runs me too much of what's his name Pat.
01:27:23
Patter fame. Yeah, Pad of fame too much.
01:27:26
I'm just like, I can't deal. Yeah.
01:27:29
I think we mentioned that in the last episode, like, yeah, they
01:27:32
could be brothers or something. Yeah, yeah.
01:27:35
Shout to me yelling at yelling at the TV when when the Android
01:27:39
slapped and Eve when she was just trying trying to help her
01:27:42
help her with her son. I was like she's just trying to
01:27:45
fucking hell, but you like but she was like the Crimson thorn
01:27:48
won't work. You have to, you have to do
01:27:50
sense and she's like, shut the fuck up.
01:27:53
He was like. Bitch, she tried.
01:27:57
She tried to fucking help you. Yeah, she made me.
01:27:59
Sleep with that shit. I was like, motherfucker.
01:28:02
I was like, look, that's that's twice that you done kind of
01:28:08
attacked Naive right now I'm I'm gonna need you to shut that shit
01:28:13
down because again, Naive is not using her powers.
01:28:18
But I think she's one of those people that you're going to push
01:28:20
her and push her and push her and push her and you finally
01:28:23
going to push her one too many times and she going to start
01:28:27
channeling. She going to whoop your ass and
01:28:28
you ain't going to know you're going to be like, well, I didn't
01:28:31
know she could do that. Well, bitch, y'all keep saying
01:28:33
she's the most powerful channeler in the last 1000
01:28:35
years. You should have known something
01:28:37
was going to happen. I'm saying you've heard a
01:28:39
fucking law F. What is the FAFO?
01:28:44
Right. Yeah, Channel FAFO.
01:28:46
I'm just waiting for that. I'm waiting for that moment to
01:28:48
come for Leandra. I don't care at whose expense.
01:28:51
I don't care if it's naive. I don't care if it Gwen is like,
01:28:54
I'm tired of you pushing around my friend.
01:28:56
I don't care if Moraine comes back and has her her powers back
01:29:00
as she does it. At this point, it could be
01:29:01
Verona, Adelais, I don't care. I just want to see Leandra and
01:29:04
get what's coming to her. That will be like the greatest
01:29:08
moment in this show for me. Yeah, I'm also shout out to them
01:29:12
naming the swordsman Arrow after Errol Flynn.
01:29:17
Yeah, I thought it was. Neat.
01:29:20
I was like, oh, I see what you did there.
01:29:22
Yeah. Yeah, I'm, I'm.
01:29:24
Wondering lost my blade I lost. His his Heron Heron handler and
01:29:28
marked blade mark blade I that that has to come back sooner or
01:29:33
later. I'm thinking that's definitely
01:29:34
going to be something where either something happens to him
01:29:38
and he tried, he gives it to Ran or somehow Rand.
01:29:42
Rand has his own blade. He has his father's blade.
01:29:45
OK, but this is the this is a different kind of special one
01:29:49
for blade commas. I'm assuming Errol is a blade
01:29:52
Smith. Like he's a Yeah, he's.
01:29:53
Blade Master. Blade Master Yeah.
01:29:56
So I mean, maybe he gives him this one and it's better and it
01:29:59
helped. It helps him to.
01:30:02
It's just a better blade or. Something I I don't think Rand
01:30:05
is gonna replace his blade, his father's blade with or I'm not
01:30:10
saying replace. I'm I'm like the blade, right?
01:30:13
I'm not saying I never said replace, I said he gets the
01:30:16
blade. I mean he can.
01:30:17
What makes you think he can't do a wield?
01:30:20
He's the fucking Dragon Reborn. You can do whatever the fuck he
01:30:22
wants to, apparently. Most people aren't using dual
01:30:26
soul dual source in this show and it.
01:30:29
Wait, Masona did, Masona did. Masona was doing it in the, I
01:30:34
think he was doing it in the in the fight earlier it's.
01:30:38
Different here in a channeler, Rand is going to have to have a
01:30:42
sword in one hand with the other, so.
01:30:46
He ain't got shit to do with nothing.
01:30:47
He could be. He could be a double wielder if
01:30:49
he wants to. I don't see it happening.
01:30:52
Let that man let that man slice, slice and Julianne like he like
01:30:55
he works for Ginsu. Let that man Ginsu,
01:30:57
motherfuckers. I don't see whatever the at
01:31:03
least this one didn't seem like it was like 1/2 a day.
01:31:07
I'm so glad this thing. Yeah, it's starting to pick up.
01:31:11
It's starting to pick up. A little bit I'm gonna say I'm
01:31:13
gonna still shout out shout out to the lane for finding time in
01:31:17
a way to make her own alcohol I. Had no doubts.
01:31:22
I'm not. Of all people, I'm like, that's
01:31:24
the one. She's gonna figure that shit
01:31:26
out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:31:28
That was kind of. That was kind of cool,
01:31:30
absolutely. Yeah, but OK, yeah, I I think
01:31:35
this episode is picking up the pace a little bit.
01:31:37
So with some of the stuff that they've introduced in this
01:31:41
episode, I think things will start picking up a little bit
01:31:44
more because again, this is only a 88 episode season.
01:31:49
We're now down to episodes. Y'all gotta start picking up the
01:31:52
pace. Yeah, so.
01:31:55
Yeah, like where, where was it? Where was it in that chainmail?
01:31:57
Veil needs to hurry up and and do some shit like let's go.
01:32:03
Oh, you talk about the the Sean Chen, whoever that person is
01:32:07
with the long fingernails. And yeah, I'm kind of curious to
01:32:11
see what what these people are about to be about.
01:32:15
So I mean, they got Ishmael sitting there on the caravan
01:32:19
with them, so they can't be good.
01:32:23
So. I just, I just think there's a
01:32:25
twist coming. I just, I mean, I don't know,
01:32:30
there's something weird about Ishmael.
01:32:31
Ishmael, I think that he. Besides the fact that he's like
01:32:35
the Dark One. Yeah.
01:32:37
But then it's it's something. It's something.
01:32:39
Else that he's. Oh, well, he's a he's a
01:32:41
Lieutenant for the Dark One. Yeah, Yeah.
01:32:44
I don't know because I I mean I feel like if he was truly evil
01:32:48
he would have done that little girl and had again let let those
01:32:51
things eat that the trolls eater in the 1st episode.
01:32:55
Not while her Mama sitting at the table.
01:32:58
Mama got shit. Her mom, her Mama just got got
01:33:00
dark, dark one shit to think about.
01:33:04
Maybe they hungry. I mean, they sounded hungry.
01:33:07
You. Know all he's when he tell her.
01:33:10
They may look ugly and nasty, but you know they're friendly.
01:33:14
Yeah, they're friendly after they eat.
01:33:17
He was like, do I look like a monster?
01:33:20
People call me a monster. She's like he and you.
01:33:22
You saw the way she looked at him.
01:33:24
She was looking at him like I want to say yes, but I'm scared.
01:33:27
Well, I'm afraid you're going. I'm afraid you're going to throw
01:33:29
me to the Trollix. Yes, exactly you.
01:33:31
Might be worse. Worse than the Trollix.
01:33:33
I mean, when you're talking to me.
01:33:36
Right, the monster. The monster hiding in plain
01:33:39
sight. Right.
01:33:40
Exactly right in front of you. All right.
01:33:44
Well then I guess that is it for that discussion.
01:33:50
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