#thewheeloftime The fate of the self-proclaimed Dragon Reborn is debated amongst the Aes Sedai. As Rand, Matt, and Thom find shelter for the night, Thom warns Rand of Mat's worsening condition. Egwene and Perrin continue traveling amongst the safety of the Tuatha'an, Nynaeve and Lan form a truce. Rand and Mat flee as danger finds them. As Logain's army attacks, a tragedy reveals the most powerful channeler ever seen.
This episode was originally recorded on January 26, 2022.
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What's a pirate's, welcome back to another episode of The
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Phantom hybrid podcast. This is hanako and I am here
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with Anthony Lori and Mike and we are discussing the fourth
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episode of will of time in which Michael is finally on board.
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As we told him, he would be. Yeah, I'm it sucked me in.
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If I only got me like I'm fucked.
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I think the one Saving Grace of this thing is probably Nene's
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like I'm 100% like she she is. Is my spirit animal?
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Now I'm like okay I really now I want to see what happens with
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her like above everybody else. Like screw all the other.
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I said I I give a fuck about any of them.
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I'm all about her, I'm like I want to see what's up with her
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because she is like really interesting to me like her whole
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character Arc like almost being killed like fighting her way
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back and like doing all this other stuff and Herbert
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something between her and what's-his-name.
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I'm saying okay girl and I told you Yeah, I shouldn't do.
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I'm like the sexy really got me back into it.
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I'm and I'm mad at what's her name for?
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It seems because like when like I know we're going to get to it
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but when when she is seems like she's sabotage them.
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Keeping what's his name under control?
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Keeping the let the dragon managerial LeAndre nor Leandria
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meringue. I'll talk about marine life is a
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remix every time because you came back afterwards and tried.
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To talk to him. Like, really, I thought that she
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was, so, calm walking in and she just walked in there, like,
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right? They'll be here in a few
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minutes. They'll be here soon.
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So we only have a few minutes to talk.
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I was like, no silly fairy. All the kids is The Last Dragon.
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That's why I'm calling those with him.
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The last dragon, you know, the true champion, but it's like she
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really believes it. So she really so she finally got
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a chance to get him alone because I think that's what she
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wanted to do. Want to do when she first saw
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him. She was like, let me get alone
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with him and talk to you. I could do it.
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I could solve this real quick. Like you know, because she saw
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in the first episode she saw when they captured the other guy
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and took the powers from him, she looked down and she was
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like, that's not him. They got the wrong guy, then,
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whatever. So we need to keep looking.
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So she says she seems to be the one that can really sense who's
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going to be the last dragon. So I think that's what she
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really needed to do. So I've kind of seen get it but
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it's just but that's just a shady as fuck.
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Yeah, I'm really gonna miss y'all up.
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You were trying to say something.
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It's hard because we can't see your face.
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I know, I think that if you had seen Maureen, when she walked in
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there, that you would think that something was going on.
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It was a little dark friend-ish but it was it I think that she's
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so determined. Prove that she's right because
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like Andy said, she's part of the quote, unquote CIA of the
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Aisa died that she just really wanted to get in there and get
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some answers because, you know, from jump.
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You can see that the different, I stood, I really don't get
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along with each other, but because they have a common goal,
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they have to basically sort of live with each other.
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All right? So we'll save the rest of the I
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said I can't get along. I think it's just the Reds.
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Oh, I'll give you a. They gave off that because I
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think everybody else it looks like Everybody else maybe can't
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get along with Moran or its kind of distant with meringue.
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But she you saw the, we saw the blues and we saw the greens
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there and they seem to get along.
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Okay, with each other at least in Wort the waters.
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Get along great with each other. You know, it's like a
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Brotherhood with them but yeah, I don't know, maybe, maybe
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that's supposed to be. Too many women in charge, you
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know supposedly they say powerful women can't get along
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and maybe that's what they're trying to portray or something
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or they're blue there. Yes, yeah.
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Blues greens yellows. Oh wait, wait wait, let me see,
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a warrant was the only blue after hit the green?
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Do they have the greens and Red's?
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Yeah. That's what I was trying to
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figure out trying to figure out. Where, where I'd seen what's his
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name before low gate looking like I was trying to figure out
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C, looks so familiar, I was like oh shit.
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That's the dude. He was in use in money Heist.
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It's on. Netflix is like he's the
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professor like the one that runs the crew and like money Heist is
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Delta shit. It's like I recommend to anybody
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but he looks like a cross between Tim Curry and Sirius
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Black. I was gonna say it looks like
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Tim Curry. Yeah, you're right.
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It's like a really young Tim Curry, you really does.
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Yeah, but you're bad. But I like him as a character
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actor. The thing about the Blues, Blue
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Note, they don't none of the other apps that trust the blues
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because the blues don't tell them anything like me don't
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share information. They are in fact the CIA of the
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stair, the secret agent, the spies baby don't and in the
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thing is good reason, it is and And Marine knows.
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The thing about this world, the prophecies are not as in other
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shows. And other other fantasy Works,
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prophecies can be a little iffy, a little shaky and then that
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real the prophecies in the will of time are very very specific
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and they're they're never wrong. So and they can't be really
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misinterpret, you can apply them and try to make them fit.
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But if you don't if you don't check off all the things in the
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prophecy then you're not the dragon reborn.
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I mean, there are other practice you Grand.
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If he is Marine knows what she's looking for, what they should be
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looking for and will gain is not it, and she knew that no looking
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as powerful as fuck like. Yeah, that was gonna be my
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question. And so if so where does he get
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that power from if he's not the dragon Reborn.
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Because like we literally see almost physical manifestations
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of past dragons with kind of like whispering in his ear.
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That's not what those there was the madness.
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Oh that was the madness. You know it was the man if it
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wasn't it wasn't the actual people okay?
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Because like if you enjoy anything TV with closed captions
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like my old ass does they actually had names for the
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people that were Speaking to him.
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So that's why I thought it actually was the people in the,
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you know, the past dragons, or whatever, it could be it.
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I don't remember the names were, I have to look at it again, but
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no bad thing that best the madness.
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This is like the first guy we saw, who was talking to someone
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and that person was not there. Gotcha, okay, if the madness.
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Okay, I was, I was a little confused because I was like,
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okay and comparing with First guy that we saw, who was talking
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to someone, you know, these were two shadow figures.
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So, that's why I thought. Okay, so maybe he is, but I
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think but, you know, now that I think about it, I think that was
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to kind of throw us off to make us think.
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Oh, that's the fifth person maybe.
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But then of course, we found out at the end of the episode that
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no, that was not the fifth person at all.
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Someone else had that distinction and she feels
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beautiful person. What are the names is a Lucia?
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He's not the fifth. Like I've no idea.
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When I tell you oh, oh, I'm sorry.
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Wait, wait, you asked how? How is he so powerful?
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And that be the dragon reborn, right?
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Remember this recall that I was trying to say that we have the
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last battle is approaching and the things that they have
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devices that have done over the last Three thousand years have
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weakened the power of people who have the ability to use the
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power, the 1 power, okay? So the will the will, the will
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has spun out people to kind of work this thing out.
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So we're going to need some more powerful users of the one power
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because we're gonna get some dark friends, ringing to get
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some Forsaken who are way off the charts, on the power scale?
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We haven't seen any for second. Yeah, we see you seen them, but
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we don't know their for some not, I'm not gonna answer that
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question, okay? We haven't seen the Forsaken
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yet. So their power level is off the
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charts because remember their eyes to die from 3 years
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ago. Okay.
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So we've got to have people on the light side who can go
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toe-to-toe against these people. Okay.
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So we're going to get some pretty powerful users.
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I'm besides, okay. I'm not going to tell you but
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how they rank, but Robert Jordan did put out the actual power
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ranking of the characters. So, if you search isn't easy
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Google search, you can find out. That's that's like, saying
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Glory. Here's the carrot and the stick,
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why don't you go do this? When you're 10 extra minutes?
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Don't tempt me. I will, we're just going to turn
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into an hour because she's going to get So sucked in pretty much.
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Yep. Yep.
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Pretty much, or is that you just say Lori?
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Tell us about the second book that doing and what's going to
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happen. Yes, yeah, deeply deeply
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detailed. Yes, I will.
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I will see this looking. Yeah, you feeling that man.
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Let me Eve is powerful. Will gain is Nash a pee himself.
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I mean, I saw that he wasn't sure.
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He even said he was like, Yeah. Okay, so what she just told me,
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what Moran just told me. Yeah that's that's that's it
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right there. Like he was even at all of her
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because and it was just so Because we had no inkling of it.
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At least, you know, we weren't supposed to have any inkling of
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it. Obviously, there was something
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special about her, you know. But let me tell you about that.
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You mentioned. But let me tell you about Le
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game though. Hmm, well games in there,
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playing possum because he was waiting for his army.
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He could have got out of there. They thought two of them would
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be able to hold him. He was just like, yeah,
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whatever. I wait who's all using?
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He they said. He was only using half his
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power. Yeah.
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See I definitely got that impression to the, he literally
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was just sitting there and we got confirmation that they
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cannot since the one power in men.
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Right? Right.
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He says it but when they were shielding him, they could feel
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him. You know pushing against it?
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No, we're not. But yeah we yeah nine Eve is not
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shabby but neither is a little game so he was just surprised
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because he hasn't come across anyone as powerful as because
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him. But here's the thing so he's
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powerful but he's had practice. My name hasn't like that was
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full raw power unexpected. And it literally just came out
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of nowhere. But it was enough, she healed
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everybody in that cave. Well, no, no Conoco.
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She wrote her one back to life. They really did.
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They weren't dead. They were, they were there on
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the Cuffs of dip land. Was damn near bled out.
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Now, I'm not gonna argue with that rather.
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She didn't bring the other, the green sister back.
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She was dead, but we'll land. Land, land was on the ropes.
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I think they messed up with land.
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I think they used too much blood on his knee for real, because
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there was a lot of blood. There's a lot of what it means
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for him to get up like that. And you can't lose like two
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pints of blood and be like, hey, I'm good.
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No no. I mean, you know, no matter how
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much magic you have, you got That was that was supposed to
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also indicate how powerful and I need was because all of them got
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up and yes ma'am was the closest to death, if not dead, I mean it
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wasn't bad. But yeah, well yeah, this is why
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I think because again, we know that things happen differently,
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book to screen. I don't know if that, you know,
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that scene happened in the book but maybe that was because I
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feel like he would like had just died in that.
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Was that fine? You'll know when all hell broke
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loose, but I think because it was, like, literally a recent,
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like he had just died. She was, she had enough power,
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or the power brought her back. Karine had already been dead for
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a few minutes, you know, before they came into the cave, so
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there really wasn't anything they could do for her.
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Like, we literally saw her die. All right, I agree with you.
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And I will say bad internet that fans of the show.
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Go with and book readers. They've gone back and forth
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about whether or not land had died.
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And I I'm just in the camp that I'm going to believe that she
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doesn't really went. Once you're dead, you did and
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one power because one power being with a bring people back,
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no matter how quickly they died, we're just be too much, okay?
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And as a lot after that was like, that would that would
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break the magic system. Okay.
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That's to say that she has that power.
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The first time she had actually exit accesses.
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It is a bit much to. It's like, okay, she brought
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someone back to life the first time.
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She actually fully expose her powers like this sloppy writing.
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It's like there's a, you know, one person that she wasn't
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admitting that she was kind of into just died in front of her.
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So you know like, okay, I'll I whole look.
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I mean, like we're just not getting on like on the same
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page. No.
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Oh, uh, yeah, I would like to believe that he was about to
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draw his last breath. Okay, CT saved him.
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I can go with that. That's a understanding.
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And one of the things that one of the things they really
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haven't touched on with her, is this is so healing is something
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that she has been doing her. I can talk about it now because
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we're at the point where if she's showing her powers, we're
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even as she was growing up. She was Learning To Be A Healer.
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Leanne to be a wisdom, she would, you know, do the
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poultices and the bandages, but she would still be using the one
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power to actually heal people. But she didn't know she was
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using the 1 power At first. She didn't know but over as he
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got older she she realized what she was doing.
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So it her why? She's so angry whenever they
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throw it in her face about the 1 power and Ice to die and being
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an ostrich. She already knows that.
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She has that power. Yeah, so for most of her life,
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she's been using the one power to heal people.
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Okay? So, and I think be intentionally
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didn't put that in the show because it would make this
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moment so much more impactful. Okay.
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Yeah. Because if I feel like if we had
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an inkling that she knew she had the one power like you said,
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Would have kind of taken away that old shit moment but I think
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machine she knew we knew Santa because when they talk about
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listening to the wind and being able to predict the weather or
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feel what's going on? Vest, amusing, the one power
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this house, she knew big, Wayne have it as well.
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Okay, I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying.
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Okay, no. See the thing about out.
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They called in Wilders, people that that are trained as and as
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they learn to be have on part of either burn themselves out or
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they get sick and die, because they don't have anyone teaching.
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But in the two rivers in the area, when you show up affinity
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for stuff like that, they bring you in and they teach you, you
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know, about especially the seeing about jumping into the
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water, that's literally the way. Way they teach them how to
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control the one power. Like you just flow with, you
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don't fight it, okay? Because the harder you fight
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against it, the worse it is for you, okay?
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This is like in Harry Potter World with the ways which is
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that when they don't use your powers, may try to hide it be
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upstairs. Yeah, it's the same thing.
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Okay, okay. But here the two rivers in the
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some of the places they have ways of having them, you know,
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deal with and controlled it and go with it and especially in the
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two rivers. And that's why not and even
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still around Dwayne because they have an idea of how they should
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be able to use it. Okay.
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Let's talk about the isid, I the sisters that we were able to see
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in this episode. Like I said, we had, we had a
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green eye Sadat, and I can't think of her name.
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But, and when I'm going to IMDb to pull up the, the actors, you
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know, the cast for this episode, they only list 12.
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So like most of the other people, they haven't listed but
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the green sister and Moraine seem to be friends, maybe wanna
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close friends. Yes, a lot of yes Alana thank
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you. They seem to be friends.
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You know it she's at least she's the only other person.
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I've seen more rain seem to have a genuine liking to other than
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land in this episode. And and she's funny, you know, I
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like a lot of but she is a grant.
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I said, I she's very powerful and I see the the green sisters
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are the ones that are the protectors, right?
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The the bat Elijah. The battle satellizer.
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She was Battle ashing. Okay, I don't know if that's a
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word but she was whoo. They were when when Logan's Army
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came to rescue him and they started fighting in the woods,
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just seeing the other sisters do what they do.
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That was a great moment because it's like, okay, so we know
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Moreno and we've seen what Moran can do, but it's nice to see
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some of the other people kind of get a chance to shine.
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You get to see some of the other waters.
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I like all the waters. I will say that they're funny
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from they are, you know, I like the fact that they didn't treat
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9 Eve. I don't, they didn't treat her
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different. They didn't treat her special,
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they treated her, like she was just one of them, you know?
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And, and that's another thing that I liked about the show.
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We've talked about that before wears, like people who are in
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situations where they're different.
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They're not treated as if they're different.
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Like in all of our shows, you know, especially over here in
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the west and in, you know, American shows, you know, when
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there's when there's Character, who is different.
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Whether that character is a different race.
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Whether that character is a different gender or non-binary,
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or if that character is gay or whatever, it's like, this always
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some kind of reference made to it.
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Sometimes a big deal is made out of it, sometimes it's not.
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But in this show there's been like no it's just very I don't
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know what the word, I want to use it.
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We've seen the diversity from the beginning of the show, and
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then we see it a little bit more here as well because you get to
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see. Nine Eve kind of bond with this
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Brotherhood of waters because the waters are all men.
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She doesn't really have anyone there that she can talk to her
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relate to except for the I said, I she really doesn't care for
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them. She doesn't care for their
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machinations. She doesn't care for the way
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they are with people so she's just sitting Around the fire
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hanging around with the guys and it was not a big deal.
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And then of course, you know, you have the two waters that
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were Alana's Alana's Waters and they were very clearly together
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and then also with her. But again, 98 kind of question
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it because that was not something she was used to, but
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it wasn't really like a big deal and I like that because it's
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just a part of the stories part of life.
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Okay. That's we do that.
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This is how it is. This is how it works.
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And I like it. Because, you know, and we bring
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this up with other shows we bring it up because we kind of
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have to because of the way shows are written because of the way
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things are cast. But like I said, this cast is
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very. It's very interesting and
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diverse. Yes, yeah, yes.
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But they, but it all mixes together, though.
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It's like they all like that. They do a really good job of
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playing off of each other. Like even 99 even laying are
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just like both of them are just have such good chemistry he's
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crazy and though I know I know Ilana a Moraine they were I
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don't know if they maybe they were novices at the same time
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but I know they were accepted at the same time so they they were,
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you know, based. They spent a lot of time
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together and whiteout. Yes, really good friends.
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Yeah. Most say they seem like they're
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really good friends. Moraine and Karine not so much
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but I feel like kurinny had like maybe a silent maybe not like
00:24:25
but I think she respects Moraine Jim.
00:24:28
I respect her but Karine it was the captain general of the green
00:24:33
object so she see with she's the captain General is about is is
00:24:41
probably the Highest position you can have, okay.
00:24:46
With with the, with the exception because we haven't
00:24:49
seen a White Tower yet, okay? But we'll I'll discuss it more
00:24:53
than, but Captain General is, she's on a different leadership
00:24:59
level. Okay.
00:25:00
Yeah. Then Marine is okay.
00:25:03
Okay now that LeAndre Don't like her.
00:25:09
I do not like her. I don't know what it is about
00:25:11
those type of people in red and I'm thinking cursed and she's
00:25:20
giving me the same vibes. She's the same character
00:25:24
archetype if the same character archetype.
00:25:27
But, oh my gosh. He's just Something about her
00:25:32
character. Just hurts me.
00:25:35
Like, even from the first time we saw her when she was
00:25:38
confronting, you know, the guy who was they were chasing.
00:25:46
I don't know and I'm sure she reminds me of another character
00:25:49
and I just can't think of it right now but her she bothers
00:25:53
me. She bothers me.
00:25:56
She's just she's so smug and she's so underhanded because
00:26:02
they're like her, any is clearly telling her we cannot just
00:26:07
gentle this guy without a trial we have to take him back to the
00:26:10
Tower. And given what you said Karine
00:26:15
is up there and lie and ruin is down here and she still going
00:26:20
around like yeah I know what Karine said but let me tell you
00:26:24
what we gonna do. And even her any confronts her
00:26:29
about it. She said, so you stop it pretty
00:26:31
much everyone where you going to come and talk to me.
00:26:35
And she know, she wasn't going to convince her.
00:26:37
She knew she was going to be able to convince her to do it.
00:26:39
That's why she saved her for Laughs.
00:26:41
Let me get everybody on my side first and then go to the boss
00:26:44
lady and see what she says. Buses.
00:26:46
Like man, get out of here with that BS.
00:26:48
Even though I Nev she knows because you know even after she
00:26:52
had that relatively cordial conversation it soon as she
00:26:56
steps away she tells land. Oh that was a snake is a snake
00:27:02
but a percent. She's got Good instincts about
00:27:05
people so badly and hren. Oh, I just thought of something.
00:27:13
We were talking about a little gain seeing that needs power.
00:27:16
It's different for men. Men can actually sense the
00:27:20
Woman's power. I mean, so even if that sense,
00:27:25
it just seeing what she was able to do, I mean her hair flew out
00:27:29
of her braids and was levitating in the air.
00:27:34
You can travel you that it unraveled everything, you can't
00:27:38
not see that. You know, she brought this dude
00:27:43
whose throat was sliced open. She healed him.
00:27:49
She healed me and just she helped Murray had a damn like,
00:27:52
Moraine just just got healed from her childlike attack And
00:28:00
now she's got a stake in her stomach, she should be out.
00:28:03
She should be dead. Man should be dead right now.
00:28:07
I don't know. Stepping, I think he got he got
00:28:10
hit with shrapnel. Some of the other people got hit
00:28:13
with. Like everybody got hit, they
00:28:16
should be in some cinnamon bun. You've got lucky.
00:28:19
It is he the one next to him? Mr. Because they won't because
00:28:23
that one power, 9 e says, and not today, Satan not speak,
00:28:27
maybe was, maybe it's because she's a to Barren and she got
00:28:30
lucky. That, you know, that's the
00:28:33
thing. Well, Okay.
00:28:41
What about I will? This is a spoiler but one of
00:28:44
wonderful games talents in the book was being able to spot to
00:28:47
viren. Yes, we have.
00:28:50
That ability is they're probably not going to do it in the
00:28:53
service. I hain't got it no more because
00:28:55
they cheer. Well, that's not one power
00:29:00
Associated talent to be able to sense to varying in that this
00:29:05
not related to her. Because be interfering is a
00:29:08
related to the 1 power. Okay.
00:29:14
They are separate things. Okay, I'm thinking, okay, so if
00:29:19
a to heart, no, explain again. So severe in is what because
00:29:24
that me not having any. But generally speaking to viren
00:29:29
are people bad that are spun out of the wheel when things are not
00:29:36
are not right? Like baby, their presence is
00:29:41
supposed to make things. Things get back on track, not.
00:29:45
So that means that all of them are our magical or is it just
00:29:49
something about them? That That they can, that can be
00:29:53
since like, like you say he can sense to Varon, what is it about
00:29:58
them? That he can sense.
00:30:00
Like, I actually got the one power so the actually cause the
00:30:06
will If you have to conceive the wheel as, as if you imagine, the
00:30:16
wheel is the actual wheel. It's a variant.
00:30:19
Can bend the spokes, like their mere presence Kenshin cause it
00:30:24
to being he caused the shift. Okay.
00:30:27
And that's not really, the biggest have that gravity about
00:30:30
them? That, that would be the word I
00:30:33
would be able to use. Okay, if there's a gravity about
00:30:36
the v-pool people to them, They push people away because weird
00:30:42
things that happen around them. Okay, the be like the Scarlet,
00:30:47
Witch him a book in the comic book they can alter probability
00:30:52
okay with their presence. Okay, you're speaking my
00:30:55
language now. Yeah, they alter probability.
00:31:00
Okay. Okay.
00:31:01
Just their presence and and they can fit in the books.
00:31:04
They actually can feel the pull of each other.
00:31:08
Sometimes, well with Matt, ran and pairing, they feel it all
00:31:14
the time. Okay.
00:31:15
Yeah, we took we we talked about that.
00:31:17
Okay, yeah, so okay, this is that in, in this version of the
00:31:21
story, they've made nine Eve and Duane tuvieron.
00:31:26
Okay. They are not in the book.
00:31:29
Oh okay. Oh huh, really?
00:31:35
Okay. And that they're not in the
00:31:36
book, so you really weren't Lying.
00:31:38
When you said, 75% of what's in this show, is not in the book.
00:31:43
Never might be hired. Maybe 85 95, 90 percent.
00:31:48
Okay, so they so they just basically took.
00:31:50
They just basically took the characters and they made a show
00:31:54
about the characters that kind of, sort of resemble, but not
00:31:57
really. Yeah, yeah.
00:31:59
Like I said, be the is almost like they took the concepts and
00:32:04
wrote a different story. Okay.
00:32:06
Trying to get across the same idea.
00:32:08
I mean, they're still doing the same things but it's like a
00:32:11
different interpretation. Okay.
00:32:14
Yes, it's really, I would even calling it adaptation anymore.
00:32:17
It's based on. Okay, when you when you're at
00:32:23
85% accuracy and and the 15% is just names locations that you
00:32:30
know okay or the other way around, 15 percent accuracy See
00:32:36
that way. Okay, is it names and locations?
00:32:41
Okay. But I mean, most of it, it's
00:32:44
fine. And I can see why a lot of
00:32:45
people who are fans of the books, don't like it.
00:32:47
Because it's I've seen this before because it's totally
00:32:50
different, but they're still ending up in the same place.
00:32:54
Okay? Doing similar things, it's just
00:32:58
like the whole Cave thing will game.
00:33:01
No, No Game. No.
00:33:05
Game was a minor. He was a nobleman from Gildan,
00:33:09
which we open up and gilding with him with the guild and
00:33:13
King. Mhm, have a King.
00:33:15
When he has started going around seeing me, he was dragging the
00:33:18
king actually stripped him of his title and land, but you
00:33:24
don't, you know, you're not gonna get all of that, right?
00:33:27
But yeah, he was able to matter. Now, the King's dead.
00:33:31
Yeah, he was able to, you know, rally lot of people and convince
00:33:35
a lot of people and he was actually giving his army, he was
00:33:39
going to get his army together to go to tear.
00:33:43
Because there is a part of the prophecy where the dragon, the
00:33:47
person who is Dragon reborn has to go to tear and retrieve an
00:33:51
artifact, okay. In anyone who's ever made it
00:33:54
that far in retrieving artifact has died.
00:33:59
Hmm. So you just can't go in there
00:34:02
and pick it up. You're going there.
00:34:04
You if you try to get to it, you're going to die.
00:34:06
Even if you can get past, if you can get past people of tear,
00:34:10
it's called the stone of Tears. And there's a sort of involved.
00:34:15
Okay? May sound familiar words.
00:34:17
There is a sort of balls. So when a prophesized eater has
00:34:25
to go to a place where there is a Sword in the Stone and only
00:34:30
that person can pull the sword from the stone, never heard that
00:34:35
before. So I think people like that one,
00:34:42
you're right. Okay, wait till you hear the
00:34:45
name of the sword that that's going to be fun.
00:34:48
It's why caliber close, you really close?
00:34:53
Okay, you have to tell us now. I mean, is this point is called
00:34:58
calendar. It's called calendar, which is
00:35:02
if you see it has enough. It sounds like he's got a, but
00:35:05
it's calendar. It's just like, it's just like
00:35:08
shrunk shoes. Like, yeah, my name's Sean.
00:35:11
Shanti wait you ran away from home and you just put yourself
00:35:19
High calling yourself Sean song. She okay?
00:35:24
Yeah. Okay, okay.
00:35:26
The reason I'm telling you guys this now this is spoiler.
00:35:30
But they have changed so much for the story that is really
00:35:35
hard to say that something is a spoiler with it doesn't happen.
00:35:39
It doesn't, it hasn't happened. And it's not gonna happen and it
00:35:43
is moved on. Okay, yeah, yeah, whatever.
00:35:50
I still enjoy it. But yeah.
00:36:01
So yeah a little game. This is going to be yeah.
00:36:06
Oh we're talking about the the eyes.
00:36:08
Yeah it was only greens and Red's there.
00:36:10
Okay there Yellow eyes are there too.
00:36:12
I think was it okay. I think there's one and then
00:36:16
like I said, when I went to IMDb to look at the cast list for
00:36:19
this episode they did have one yellow Asia listed but I'm like
00:36:24
you have the yellow module listed who had like really no
00:36:27
seams but you don't you don't have Steph step enlisted.
00:36:31
You don't have a lana. It's I don't know.
00:36:34
I am DB is just it's not angry tonight but that's okay.
00:36:38
But it takes a certain number. For a certain number of sisters
00:36:45
to Gentle a person. Okay, so this one had to meet
00:36:50
you there. The numbers were up, right?
00:36:52
And they said I think I think Moraine said something about
00:36:54
there were seven there? Yeah, yeah.
00:36:57
Okay. So here's what, here's one
00:36:58
question I have about one of the sisters.
00:37:00
So there is an Asian lady with a short, kind of like a pixie
00:37:04
bowl, cut that. I, if I remember correctly, she
00:37:09
had on green 4. Most of the out for most of the
00:37:13
episode. And then at the end when they
00:37:17
were all about to Gentle loghain, she had on red.
00:37:23
I was really curious to see have a room with everybody in the
00:37:25
woods to I think she'll regular. I think I think there's two
00:37:28
different actresses though. Oh okay.
00:37:31
Because they both had the same kind of, that's what I think.
00:37:36
I know what you're talking about.
00:37:38
Okay, there was one shot of Meandering in the other Red
00:37:42
Sisters that was with her and she was one of them.
00:37:46
Okay? That was earlier.
00:37:48
So, okay, okay, I was just confused because I was like was
00:37:52
that the same person or but she can imagine they would make that
00:37:57
big of mistake have her switch inconsistencies, you know, there
00:38:04
was a King's Landing or actually end up Winterfell.
00:38:10
So you never No, you never know. But um, So yeah, the sisters
00:38:16
could look like karate is gone and I actually liked her any for
00:38:21
the little bit that we saw her on screen but I think the most
00:38:24
interesting thing to me was seeing the eyelashes with their
00:38:29
warders because Karine and Stephen would like an old
00:38:32
married couple, hmm. Like they had that they had that
00:38:37
familiarity with each other. They had that they had that Bond
00:38:44
and you could clearly see. See it like we know Landon and
00:38:47
Moraine have a bond but to me looking at them interact and
00:38:52
looking at Kearney and stepping interact, it was totally
00:38:56
different. And we talked about it in the
00:38:59
last episode like Moraine and Lance relationship does not
00:39:03
seem. It does not seem romantic in
00:39:07
that sense, you know, and we got confirmation in this episode.
00:39:10
Definitely that water in, you know, I said, I'd they can Can
00:39:16
Encompass all kind of, you know, relations with each other.
00:39:20
But I never I don't get that Vibe with Moraine and land.
00:39:26
With Karin, e and step in. I can see them being like an
00:39:32
actual like together because they seem that that comfortable
00:39:37
with each other. Like, like I said, they were
00:39:39
like an old married couple, you know, finishing each other's
00:39:43
sentences and, you know, he, of course, we know they have this
00:39:46
bomb where they can feel what the other, what the other person
00:39:49
is feeling. But I don't know, there's just
00:39:52
seems really natural to me and when I tell you when she died
00:39:57
and he felt it and the way he was just kind of stumbling
00:40:02
around the battle, like I've got to get to Karine, I've got to
00:40:05
get to Karine and him seeing her on the floor and then caress,
00:40:09
you know, just kind of cradling her after everything happened.
00:40:13
I when I tell you, I cried the first time I watched this
00:40:16
episode, I cried because I felt it for him.
00:40:20
Yeah, shelter stuff and doing his best.
00:40:22
Peter quillin Timothy imitation by attacking attacking him, and
00:40:27
almost getting everybody killed. Okay?
00:40:28
So I'm not the only person who made that comparison in my hair
00:40:31
when they had 100%. I mean, they were there with
00:40:34
their struggling to keep them together and he just rushes in
00:40:36
and tries to hit him and by the way, guess his axe is shattered
00:40:41
and ends up being responsible for Lance.
00:40:44
Broke getting cut. What's her name?
00:40:46
Getting stabbed in the gut and everybody else getting
00:40:48
shrapnel's like again, just like I say with Peter Quinn, is that
00:40:53
emotional Factor like When you when you have that kind of thing
00:40:59
hit you you're not going to add rationally, you know, like I
00:41:05
said we saw it in this episode stepping and career anywhere
00:41:09
like this. So when she died and he walked
00:41:13
in and saw her body and and figured out what happened.
00:41:16
I knew that was going to happen. I know that was going to happen
00:41:20
that he was going to go after him.
00:41:21
How could he not even though? Yes it does.
00:41:24
It didn't make sense in the grand scheme of things with what
00:41:27
they were trying to do. Like dude, we're trying to
00:41:30
contain his power. Don't go chasing after him but I
00:41:35
would be shocked if he did anything else for that.
00:41:40
Like that his piss pain was raw and I felt it through the
00:41:43
screen. But um, let's see.
00:41:53
Where do we want to go next? I think, I think we've talked
00:41:56
about the, the, the eyes, read the Asia, and low gain enough.
00:42:01
Let's go, well, I guess let's go to our original for our quartet
00:42:08
matter and have some issues, or rather, should I say, Matt has
00:42:12
some issues, where's my God? These proves.
00:42:16
It's like they have stare like having so many like they're just
00:42:21
Premier really problematic. Attic right now.
00:42:24
It's not even it's not them. Don't say damn.
00:42:26
That is the one that still got a goddamn blade.
00:42:29
Yes. Yeah.
00:42:32
But just like they're paired. Together is like Rand, Rand
00:42:35
isn't necessarily innocent a lot of stuff so I'm giving it as we
00:42:39
don't like rain. I'm sorry.
00:42:40
I just, this is, this is like I was getting Deathly Hallows
00:42:44
feel. What?
00:42:45
I've been walking around the woods, carrying a Whole Creek.
00:42:48
Yeah, and screaming at each other.
00:42:50
Yeah. Oh my God.
00:42:51
Yeah, that that evil is Affecting but and and I feel I
00:42:56
do feel bad for Matt because while he's struggling with this
00:43:00
and of course, I think part of it is, he doesn't want to tell
00:43:04
ran because he thinks ran will turn on him.
00:43:07
And I really like that part where ran just told him, I'm
00:43:11
here, you know that, right? Like no matter what happens, I'm
00:43:14
here. I'm glad that he told him that
00:43:16
because I feel like Matt needed that reassurance.
00:43:19
But at the same time, it's like mad.
00:43:22
It is going through this alone. He's struggling with this
00:43:27
Darkness. That's trying to overtake him
00:43:29
and we see him going to the barn and, and throw up.
00:43:32
And he starts, you know, kind of losing it a little bit and the
00:43:35
little girl from the house comes and approaches him.
00:43:40
And almost like that you see him switch back into Big Brother.
00:43:45
Matt, you know the good guy. The one who cares about his
00:43:48
sisters and I just felt so bad because you know, that's really
00:43:52
the person he wants to be like when she said, when he, when she
00:43:56
asked him where his sisters were and he said they're safe back
00:44:00
home. She said, what's your mama and
00:44:01
papa and he was looking kind of like Well, no, they're not safe
00:44:08
with them, you know, and that was when it kind of hit you that
00:44:14
at least for me, Matt as he's been saying for the last two
00:44:18
episodes, he just wants to go home.
00:44:21
He doesn't want any part of it in any part of this, and I
00:44:25
think, you know, I also think part of it is he can feel that
00:44:29
there's something going on with him.
00:44:31
And I don't at this point, he, he may think Think he might be
00:44:38
the dragon reborn and he's going crazy.
00:44:40
Hmm. And he knows wit with weights
00:44:43
for any man, that can channel, right?
00:44:47
And he can't take care of his sister's fees dead, right?
00:44:51
You know, someone locked in the White Tower.
00:44:53
That's why he didn't want to go the terms of law.
00:44:55
Yeah, yeah. He's oh my God.
00:44:58
I hate this. I'm just going to go home but I
00:45:01
want to feel bad for met, but I got flash back to episode one.
00:45:06
Or episode 2 I'm sorry where land told them when they went
00:45:09
into the shadow City to not touch anything.
00:45:15
I feel see I feel my black dad come back on whereas like you
00:45:18
see you take a kid's room, like don't touch nothing.
00:45:23
When you tell somebody don't touch this.
00:45:26
What is the first thing they're going to do?
00:45:28
Touch it, but I don't think you could have resisted.
00:45:31
I think it called to a part of him.
00:45:35
I agree the way the cells written and how he's been
00:45:38
written from the beginning as being emo and have a little bit
00:45:43
of darkness in be called. Yeah.
00:45:45
And I hope that you could resist it.
00:45:47
Yeah, I know I will say this. I've never seen a gleaming fight
00:45:52
like that. Thomas, very special, he's
00:45:57
worked on guitar. Has got some, he's got a lot of
00:46:01
history in here. He's got some skills.
00:46:03
I mean he said His much to. He said, he said, nothing is
00:46:07
more dangerous than a man who knows, the past.
00:46:11
Well, all I'm saying is, I know a little bit about but I
00:46:14
haven't, I haven't gone ahead. If he turns out to be, like, a
00:46:17
long-forgotten king, I would not be surprised seriously.
00:46:21
I mean, I know what happens to certain parts of his life, but
00:46:26
if he turns out to be like the one, you know, how and do they
00:46:31
had, they had the kids are hotter out and then they had
00:46:33
Feathering who almost wasn't, He wasn't.
00:46:36
I think this might be what Tom is.
00:46:38
These are going pretty much, pretty much.
00:46:44
Yeah, I just like the idea of the gleaming though, I like the
00:46:47
idea because anytime you get a Bard you get anyone who does
00:46:51
music and all that, that's always fasten cause they're
00:46:54
always fun to watch. So yeah, I think that there's a
00:46:57
lot more to him. We're going to see a lot more
00:46:59
and like I said if he turns up the be Aragon and I wouldn't be
00:47:02
surprised. He's more than just a gleaming.
00:47:07
Well, well, well, let me rephrase that.
00:47:11
That's not what I meant. What I meant to say, this prison
00:47:14
time, he wants. Nothing more than to be a
00:47:17
gleaming, all he wants, okay? He's being dragged into
00:47:22
something day. If he had his choice, he
00:47:26
wouldn't want to be involved. What did the previous characters
00:47:28
on the show? Well, the thing is, they've
00:47:31
changed him so much from the book like like I said he was
00:47:34
supposed to be there. The two rivers with with him and
00:47:37
he is supposed to be already with them, but they've changed
00:47:41
it. Some well, they changed it a
00:47:43
lot. We will have live reluctant
00:47:46
hero. Yeah, we would have learned a
00:47:48
lot more about. How being can we got now?
00:47:51
Here's my question. Did Matt kill the family or did
00:47:56
the fade? The fade, kill the fish.
00:48:00
Okay. Okay, yeah, okay II.
00:48:04
That's what I thought but then, of course, you know, with Matt
00:48:08
struggling with what he's struggling with and of course
00:48:11
you know they're saying you know they say they drives them to
00:48:15
Madness and all this I didn't know but when he pointed the
00:48:18
knife at the fade is almost like they made sure to show us that
00:48:22
the blade was clean. So I was like okay he didn't
00:48:27
kill them even though he thinks I have I'm pretty sure he's
00:48:30
probably going to think that he you know he killed them
00:48:33
especially after he saw the little girl because I don't
00:48:36
think he was him until they walked out of that place.
00:48:40
And when he fell he saw the little girl.
00:48:43
He was just like what? Like what happened?
00:48:46
Because Matt would not have done that.
00:48:50
Even possessed. I don't think he would have done
00:48:55
that at least not to the little girl.
00:48:58
He was drawn to the he was drawn to the the death, okay?
00:49:04
In the house. That's what Drew him there.
00:49:06
Okay. And then the way he is, the way
00:49:09
he held up the knife, he was like I see you.
00:49:12
I was like oh that's creepy. It was, it was really, this is
00:49:17
turning into a horror movie real quick.
00:49:20
Right. But and matter and are on the
00:49:26
run again because without Tom, but he has a bad leg lift him
00:49:33
battling that saved by himself. So he kind of told them to go
00:49:36
because I I mean, okay, what would it be?
00:49:40
Close the door. He like, close the door twice.
00:49:42
Yeah, he was like, get like, get the fuck out like the Fate is
00:49:46
coming for them. So what would happen if the
00:49:50
faith gets them with the fade? Take them alive.
00:49:54
Of to wherever the dark one is or okay.
00:49:57
And then, the dark one's goal is to capture them.
00:50:01
You don't want to kill me. He wants.
00:50:03
He wants to drag reborn on his side to help him, okay?
00:50:08
Okay, those two. They just and and I was thinking
00:50:15
about it where you were saying earlier about to Varon, you
00:50:19
know, being lucky or that's one of the traits obviously.
00:50:23
Not because these two have some of the worst luck in the world,
00:50:31
depends on your perspective. I mean, they're, they're being
00:50:35
exactly in the places they need to be, or are supposed to be You
00:50:43
may not think that, but let's say the family who owns the barn
00:50:47
might disagree. But everything that's happening
00:50:53
is slowing everybody down. Like they could have all been
00:50:57
intolerable on by now. Okay, reason that they're not
00:51:03
all getting there at different times or at a certain time,
00:51:08
okay? Okay, I'll take that.
00:51:13
There's a method to the madness, right?
00:51:15
Okay. So we're at least that's how I
00:51:18
look at it, right? Okay, but so now going to the
00:51:25
other two going to Pippin anyway, they seem to be having a
00:51:28
marvelous time like they're dancing, they're getting they're
00:51:32
getting good nice meals there they are making friends Pippin
00:51:38
Pairing. Still seems haunted but there's
00:51:43
something else I noticed in this episode and tell me if I'm
00:51:49
imagining it. But does it seem like parent has
00:51:52
more than just friendly or brotherly feelings towards
00:51:55
egwene? I'm gonna feel like shit also to
00:52:03
even even back back when they made the made the fire and they
00:52:07
were hung together is like around that time.
00:52:09
I was kind of like he's probably if he's probably see me thinking
00:52:13
it but he's still he's still in mourning.
00:52:15
First of all for his wife dying and him having accidentally
00:52:18
killed her on top of that. So he really had, he's really
00:52:22
still trying to come to terms with that.
00:52:25
But I mean, there's still there's definitely some kind of
00:52:29
Some kind of feelings. They're like yeah, and I think
00:52:32
so too, it feels like he's hiding that also to honor his
00:52:36
friendship, not just with her, but with Rand as well because
00:52:41
that's technically speaking, that's still kind of Rands girl,
00:52:44
you know? But yeah, I felt like okay he's
00:52:49
protective of her but it's just the way that he was kind of
00:52:52
watching her while she was. You know, dancing and just
00:52:59
having fun and talking to. What's his name Aram?
00:53:03
Arum Aaron are. Mm.
00:53:05
And it wasn't. It wasn't the kind of he's
00:53:10
watching her like it's a creepy thing.
00:53:12
It was one of those like it was kind of wistful and I think part
00:53:16
of it, I felt like was the fact that okay, she's at least she's
00:53:22
not worried. She's happy or she's kind of
00:53:25
sort of happy at this moment. You know, she just kind of, you
00:53:28
know, enjoying herself which is something none of them have been
00:53:31
able to do since they left home. So I felt like he was a little
00:53:34
bit wistful about that. Like oh at least she's able to
00:53:38
relax and have a good time but he's, you know, like I said,
00:53:41
he's Still Holding Onto, You know, his feelings and his guilt
00:53:45
and everything, but at the same time, I kind of looked at him.
00:53:48
I was like, huh, I feel like yeah, egg Wayne's got some, she
00:53:55
has her pick of the litter right now.
00:53:56
She's Ran. She's got arrows.
00:53:58
She's got a parent because Aaron is clearly besotted with her up
00:54:03
until she's looking at the stars and he was like who is he like
00:54:08
yes she's just sitting there looking at the stars champagne.
00:54:11
You know attention. Yeah.
00:54:12
There's another dude there. Yeah because Aaron those
00:54:15
humming. Hi dude and she ain't listening
00:54:17
me once twice none and I'm giving her my best stuff
00:54:22
exactly. Like I do.
00:54:41
There are no fish left. You ain't catching shit.
00:54:47
Yeah. And even, even, even that same
00:54:49
where they were sitting there, looking at the stars and they
00:54:51
were talking, they were like unusually close and usually and
00:54:55
TV shows when We are that close they kind of that kind of pain.
00:54:58
Look at each other and they realize, oh wait, I think I want
00:55:02
to kiss you and they go in for the kiss and that didn't happen
00:55:05
in this scene. I was like, oh okay, so y'all
00:55:08
didn't go for that little, you know obvious.
00:55:11
I'm sure Aaron was disappointed in that too.
00:55:14
He was, but he was respectful of it because as soon as she, you
00:55:19
know, when he asked her, he says, so have you lost them?
00:55:21
And she was like, no I had I would have known.
00:55:25
He was just like okay moving on just start having a conversation
00:55:28
with her like okay. He you know I will say this I
00:55:35
like his character in the show because he's he's just happy all
00:55:38
the fucking time like everybody else has all of this weight
00:55:43
they're dragging and despair and this another and he's just
00:55:46
cracking jokes and he's just happy and it's just Okay.
00:55:51
And I think too, it's interesting that his character
00:55:56
is that way given what they've gone through as a family because
00:56:01
we hear his grandmother tell the tale about what happened to her
00:56:05
daughter, you know, being attacked in the Woods by Raiders
00:56:08
and just killed for sport. And she says, that Aaron was so
00:56:12
young, he doesn't even remember her.
00:56:14
And I'm just like, That would make anybody else depressed but
00:56:18
he is just like this happy-go-lucky guy and just like
00:56:23
I don't know the way of the leaf is working for him.
00:56:28
I mean well I mean if you see well I mean you big kiss.
00:56:35
I mean I understand the way of leaf is working is working for
00:56:40
them even now as this the could. Yeah, hmm.
00:56:46
But I like that little group, you know they just kind of
00:56:49
traveled the countryside and they pick up Strays and they're
00:56:53
nice and their charitable and you know they as we saw in this
00:56:57
episode they have histories you know one of the ladies that
00:57:00
parent you know commented about Island was like yeah she's to be
00:57:06
a hired killer parents are out of look like what?
00:57:10
Like what and then you know she goes into the story about the
00:57:15
Way of the leaf and how when her daughter was killed.
00:57:18
She said, you know, I wanted it took everything in me, not to
00:57:22
grab the spear out of her chest and go hunting them down and I
00:57:26
love as she says after that, it's very idealistic, but I
00:57:31
think is a nice sentiment. Still, you know, parents is, why
00:57:36
didn't you? And she said, because I only
00:57:39
wanted revenge and he was like, Yeah, and and she said, well,
00:57:44
what did she say? What better revenge for violence
00:57:47
than peace. What bed revenge for death than
00:57:50
life. This is basically a nomadic
00:57:53
hippie commune like they're just going from seed to cities like
00:57:56
just being happy and spreading peace as much as well as they
00:58:00
can Inspire and talking about the the song and all this other
00:58:05
stuff. Like it's just like they're
00:58:08
they're facing song. Yeah.
00:58:10
That's for my family though. Are correct this time okay
00:58:13
because that you know is about to ask like where do we don't
00:58:15
talk about them, you don't talk, don't talk about this song.
00:58:18
Do they remind me The Partridge Family?
00:58:25
You know the little bus and a little birds over that or am I
00:58:29
quoting a to Old of a reference here?
00:58:30
No I'm gonna do I'm gonna say something is not a spoiler but I
00:58:39
just want to tell you guys when y'all Find out about the twat,
00:58:43
the one I'm gonna, I'm gonna be so excited for you.
00:58:47
Oh, cheers. They there is such an important
00:58:53
part that they play in this story.
00:58:55
Hopefully, The Story Goes, hopefully the show goes on long
00:58:58
enough, but we and all the connections are made, you can
00:59:03
scan the barcode. Oh my fucking god, and have
00:59:07
anything to do with the song, okay?
00:59:09
So shoulder either, they're the first people.
00:59:11
I mean, Like the first ones that appeared after the wheel
00:59:14
emerges, they're elves or they're elves, they're elves.
00:59:22
Then Noel's in the wintertime, we're gonna have to get Anthony
00:59:26
a new t-shirt. He's got the one that says no
00:59:28
theories that we gotta get him. One that says this is not a
00:59:30
spoiler but I'll tell you this show, makes it very easy because
00:59:38
like I've him 85% of this is made up, right?
00:59:43
Hmm. Okay.
00:59:45
But no, it's not a spoiler. Be reintroduced very important.
00:59:49
I mean, there's some characters who are not are mmm.
00:59:52
It is going to be one of your favorite characters.
00:59:57
And story are, my favorite story arc in the book is very good.
01:00:02
Okay. That's very good.
01:00:04
Okay, I like him. He's so happy.
01:00:08
How can you not like him? Well, there's a reason for that.
01:00:11
So, I don't know yet, but I'm just saying, whenever someone is
01:00:17
that happy? There's something really really
01:00:19
wrong with them. That's all I'm saying.
01:00:21
I don't think that's the case he could.
01:00:25
I mean, he really could be one of those people was like, look
01:00:28
everything else in this life is shitty enough.
01:00:30
I'm not about to let it affect me.
01:00:31
That way. I'm going to be happy.
01:00:33
I'm gonna find, you know, how he is in the show.
01:00:37
That's how mad is supposed to be really.
01:00:42
Yeah. Really happy-go-lucky.
01:00:46
Yeah, man, doesn't have any problems.
01:00:48
I mean, Matt, Matt for what I've read is just the nicest guy.
01:00:53
He, the only thing I got from the, from the book and a half
01:00:56
that I've read, is that his physical size occasionally in
01:01:01
the past, made them feel uncomfortable because he's so
01:01:03
big. And he has to remember to make
01:01:05
themselves small around other people.
01:01:06
Hey, I'm not that parent parent. I know Matt in the book is
01:01:16
different because Matt is basically a rascal you know and
01:01:21
and the thing with the dagger soon as I knew he had I was like
01:01:26
I'll they're going to go that route.
01:01:27
I just saw Smeagol just you know, you know.
01:01:32
But man I thought Smeagol, when I first watched when I first
01:01:35
watched these episodes with him with the blade, I Like that's
01:01:40
his precious. Yep, pretty much.
01:01:43
I guess, that would have been too much of a drastic change.
01:01:45
They have some girlfriend Erin, you know, happy-go-lucky, right
01:01:50
things great to, you know, so happy because it would have been
01:01:56
obvious benefits. Something is wrong?
01:01:57
Like at this point like Rand senses, something is wrong, but
01:02:02
he can't really put his place. He can't really put his finger
01:02:06
on it, but he's knows that something is wrong.
01:02:08
Matt and I think maybe he's thinking you know mad is kind of
01:02:11
sad about not being at home and you know they're separated from
01:02:16
pairing and egwene. So maybe Rand is just thinking
01:02:19
that he's just internalizing that but I think I think ran in
01:02:25
and and Tom's conversation Pretty much confirms that ran
01:02:31
things that Matt is a Channeler in his going crazy.
01:02:35
Hmm that's why he's concerned. I think it's one of those things
01:02:40
to where it's like, he hasn't really seen anything.
01:02:43
Matt do anything about it, but I mean I don't know, because I
01:02:52
think we discussed last episode that Matt has probably been
01:02:56
channeling, especially when he opened that door that was
01:02:58
supposed to be impossibly. Rare, ran, ran ran.
01:03:02
Yes, you know, especially when he opened that door that he was
01:03:05
not supposed to open, but Rand is not showing any signs of
01:03:10
Madness yet. So, either that means that he's
01:03:15
not a child molester, or maybe? He's Dragon reborn, which I know
01:03:19
you've probably you've already said that, it's pretty obvious,
01:03:23
that it's him, but I don't know, I think that they're
01:03:27
purposefully trying to throw us in different directions but
01:03:31
still it's kind of like if you think about it like Matt, yeah,
01:03:36
Matt is kind of gone at this point.
01:03:38
And I don't know if that's because of the blade, like if he
01:03:41
gets rid of the blade, will that will that change the way he's
01:03:47
acting? Like will he be more himself or
01:03:52
was the blade just an accelerant for the mad?
01:03:55
This, that he was going to get. Anyway, being a Channeler.
01:03:58
This, I will say this, look at the two Mill challenges that
01:04:04
we've seen two confirmed Mill challenge that we've seen so
01:04:09
far, what did they both have in common?
01:04:19
Hold on. Okay, we got low gain and you
01:04:22
remember we talked about we've talked about this before they
01:04:24
Riders tend to show you things earlier to prepare you for
01:04:30
things later. Right.
01:04:32
So what did their first guy that Lee andron and her sisters
01:04:38
Marine saw them capture? Where did he have in common with
01:04:43
Logan? Besides.
01:04:52
We both know of it and then we both will be.
01:04:54
No, they will Chandler's. We both know that they were
01:04:57
going mad. What was the manifestation of
01:05:00
your Baptist seeing other people, right?
01:05:04
As maybe it's fate, huh, grants fake.
01:05:15
We have. So we have an indication of with
01:05:19
the madness look like, uh-huh. We haven't had any of our males
01:05:25
show that trait yet. Or have we looked was Tyler man.
01:05:32
It was he a manifestation of Tom.
01:05:42
Come on. Wait wait.
01:05:59
Maybe maybe he fought it off, he really fought it off and in his
01:06:03
mind he in his mind, the Tom fight it off and they escaped
01:06:08
but maybe we want him off enough that they could get away.
01:06:11
No. And then he came back to
01:06:12
himself. It's a little girl dead.
01:06:14
And it's like this If he was in the process of
01:06:31
going crazy, he would be talking to people.
01:06:34
That's not there, right? Okay, okay.
01:06:38
All right, and you've Rand was going crazy, you
01:06:52
know. To formulate because even if
01:07:01
even thinking about that, what was her name dhara?
01:07:06
The the barmaid. She would have disproven all of
01:07:09
that because she had Rand trapped, and then Matt was with
01:07:14
what's-his-name Toby and they came together and she confronted
01:07:17
both of them. So yeah that that know that
01:07:22
there is dead in the water might just go ahead.
01:07:25
Go ahead mean, I mean we we knew we saw the show.
01:07:27
Your friend is dead, maybe she maybe she's crazy enough where
01:07:32
she where he was talking like two different people and she
01:07:36
just so we're moving on. No, we're moving on.
01:07:38
No, but my point, my point being that's a good point though,
01:07:43
there's a wait until we have got some indicators.
01:07:49
Okay, so right now, poor Matt's, just he's just going mad.
01:07:56
No, he's possessed by some unknown evil.
01:08:02
Well, it's a known that you will bet.
01:08:05
I don't see him. Listen to him.
01:08:08
You saw it. He just didn't know it's inside
01:08:10
of him, right? Cuz when it when it started
01:08:15
creeping up after he threw up and then was it, moving on his
01:08:18
mouth on his face has we backed into his mouth that little rose
01:08:24
that was gross right now to be a fix people.
01:08:27
It's like bubbling and beautiful and put this all up the effects
01:08:31
in this whole episode were top-notch like from from the
01:08:35
from what was from Lorraine? The whole thing with Lorraine
01:08:38
like his his magic coming in whispering in his ear like no
01:08:41
gang locate. Yeah yeah yeah.
01:08:44
It's like from that to the news powers to like the whole thing
01:08:50
is like these effects are top-notch like really good and
01:08:53
the costumes costumes are amazing, the tuatha one, all the
01:08:57
colors and all that stuff. So you know I was thinking I was
01:09:00
like, okay so we already talked about we were going to try to go
01:09:03
to Dragon Con as Grecian, you sure now looking at these
01:09:09
costumes on will of time but I was like that's going to be too.
01:09:12
Elaborate Actually one of the costumes from next week, is it
01:09:16
next? I think next week's episode I'm
01:09:20
Maybe the Epic know is I think it's the episode after that
01:09:23
there is a costume that showed up in that and I was just like I
01:09:27
want to do it but no dragons. He wasn't in Step 4.
01:09:31
You Can Be You can be like a green.
01:09:33
You want to be green eyes or blue eyes and hey I can I Could
01:09:37
Be A Warrior's. We can do that.
01:09:40
We can do that. That would be fun.
01:09:42
I mean, that would be awesome. How are you friend?
01:09:46
That would be fun. Yeah, it's early enough.
01:09:49
We got to start planning a sort of a big freezer though.
01:09:54
We can we can be both on is five days.
01:09:58
Many people bring costumes for multiple changes eats and they
01:10:04
know in a day, they were right. That's why I'm saying, you have
01:10:07
some people who do five cosplay and changes in a day.
01:10:11
I'm I'm not about to go, I'm telling y'all know, I'm not
01:10:14
about to go there, but yeah, we could do Grisha and then we
01:10:17
could, you know, Isaiah and water.
01:10:19
And yeah, we can do that. That would be fun.
01:10:24
Okay, cosplay idea, we got start thinking about it.
01:10:28
Oh, speaking of the options, let me say this.
01:10:31
I think it was. It was the, the green Asian
01:10:34
woman. I was telling you all about
01:10:36
that. I think had the bowl cut, so
01:10:38
when they're fighting in the forest and you know, they're
01:10:42
using their, their powers, of course, a lana.
01:10:45
She she builds up these walls. One of the Asha, she starts
01:10:50
striking the ground, like she's shooting a machine gun.
01:10:53
That shit wasn't like I was that power.
01:11:01
They're blowing them up left and right.
01:11:02
Like this is crazy, they were and then you know, I think there
01:11:07
was one red eye. Sure that got stabbed and she
01:11:10
fell to the ground. And I was like, oh, they just
01:11:12
lost somebody? No, because Here Comes she got
01:11:14
rid of the arrows. Yeah.
01:11:18
Was it okay yeah but she got healed because she's got sisters
01:11:22
around. I was like oh this is so not a
01:11:25
fair fight. Yeah was shell-shocked.
01:11:29
Like she couldn't do anything that she said one guy and then
01:11:33
she was like had her back against the tree and was looking
01:11:35
left and right. Like let me think about it PTSD
01:11:38
she just wishes this a few weeks ago and her own village.
01:11:41
Yeah. Remember as she got dragged off
01:11:43
in that one. So yeah, I would have been
01:11:45
shell-shocked but I love the whale and just kept here.
01:11:47
Is like, okay, come on, let's go, let's go.
01:11:50
Grab our who were there were a couple of lives that let you
01:11:53
know that this was not going to go the way for the Army?
01:11:57
The first line was earlier, when Marine was talking to carrying
01:12:01
and carrying the ANC said that, why are you scared?
01:12:05
You, you have Hill back, armies by yourself.
01:12:09
There's no way even later when Landon is like, oh, there's no
01:12:14
way they're going to be able to go against seven, full sisters,
01:12:17
right? Rice is 70.
01:12:20
So, yeah, I forgot mine did job is just to protect them while he
01:12:28
do their stuff. That's what they do.
01:12:32
They were doing a pretty damn good job of it, but there's one
01:12:38
of The part, I do want to talk about with this episode and
01:12:41
that's the, that's the same with land and nine Eve, I'm here, you
01:12:46
can see that that it was such a beautiful scene and it's like,
01:12:50
you get to see two things with two scenes, where it's just
01:12:54
them. And the first one is after she's
01:12:57
having her conversation with Lee andron and land comes over and
01:13:03
talks to her a little bit. and they're still, you can I don't
01:13:09
know if I want to say she's still kind of I don't know.
01:13:15
She's not, she's not really holding him at arm's length, but
01:13:18
you can tell that this attraction is there, and she's
01:13:21
fighting it. And then, you know, she sees him
01:13:25
praying and he tells her what he what he's praying about and then
01:13:29
she prays herself and she tells him about, you know, she speaks
01:13:32
of phrase in the old tongue and she doesn't know what it means.
01:13:36
She just knows that it mean, you know, something that her parents
01:13:39
said to her. She said before they locked her
01:13:41
in the cellar, To go I guess fight or, you know, try to lure,
01:13:47
whoever was attacking their Village away from her.
01:13:49
So it was the last thing. Her parents ever said to her
01:13:51
before, you know, she never saw them again.
01:13:54
And when he translated it for her, it pretty much said, you
01:14:01
know, I was going to say it sounded similar to what I love
01:14:07
was saying about her daughter and why she follows the way of
01:14:09
the leaf. She said that, you know, parent
01:14:12
was telling her that her philosophy of Peace.
01:14:19
Like that's not something you're ever going to see in your
01:14:21
lifetime and not in your grandchildren's grandchildren's
01:14:24
lifetimes and she's like I'm not doing it for them.
01:14:27
She said I'm doing it because the Wheel of Time one day spent
01:14:30
my daughter soul out and I want this world to be better for her
01:14:35
so that she can live Life then that she was supposed to live
01:14:39
now with me and I think when land translated the phrase that
01:14:46
nine Eve said it was something similar.
01:14:50
I don't I didn't write that what it said, but it was basically
01:14:52
like the parents protect the child so that some something
01:14:58
about was good. It was the last thing he was.
01:15:01
Last seen a king, a man said to his wife before he went off at
01:15:05
the Battle of me. Network.
01:15:06
Hmm. But it was something about we
01:15:09
protect our children now so that they can live later or something
01:15:12
to that effect. But it is kind of buzz about
01:15:15
sacrifice kind of. Yeah, hmm.
01:15:17
And it's hide and with you know what, nine, he's parents.
01:15:22
Didn't you can see her get really emotional there and you
01:15:26
know, she tries to play it off and she's like, you're not
01:15:28
anything. Like I thought you were and then
01:15:31
he says the same thing. But before, you know, when she
01:15:33
says in what way before he can say, Said they're getting
01:15:37
attacked. I was like, yeah, they're
01:15:38
totally going to get together Theresa.
01:15:41
We saw go into the land so our children can always hold us and
01:15:47
we'll never be alone, okay? Okay, so yeah.
01:15:53
Hey I think you broke her down with that one.
01:15:56
That was like that was that last little piece of wall?
01:15:59
She was holding up just crumbling down and she was like,
01:16:03
okay I guess he's okay and then of course you know like I said
01:16:07
he watched over her during the battle and then when they went
01:16:11
into the cave he got hurt. It's like she sees everybody
01:16:16
else hurt. But who did she go to?
01:16:18
She sees land and that's the one.
01:16:20
She makes a beeline for him and she tries to staunch the
01:16:24
bleeding. Of course, like his his neck is
01:16:28
just shooting out blood at this point and he's dying and she was
01:16:33
just like, nope, absolutely not and the hair starts flying and I
01:16:39
was just like and you can see it in the light, you know, they
01:16:44
actually had her hair levitating in, The light and I was like, oh
01:16:49
okay yeah but before they you saw it with the game due to make
01:16:54
AIDS like he literally knows emigrated.
01:16:58
Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'm not saying he's
01:17:03
not powerful, he was powerful but when Moran had that
01:17:08
conversation with him, the way she was breaking it down to him.
01:17:12
She was like Your power, it ain't nothing compared to what's
01:17:19
out there. And then when my name set it up,
01:17:23
set it off. He was like I did using son and
01:17:29
then, of course, you know that distracted him enough for them
01:17:32
to capture him and jumped on him.
01:17:34
And I think at that point all of them coming in and seeing what
01:17:37
he did to nine Eve, they were like, you know what?
01:17:40
No you're done, you're done. I hope the show.
01:17:43
Is going to be different for trela game differently than they
01:17:48
do in the books. Because when she says, kind of
01:17:53
bothers me because it's not true for him.
01:17:56
You know, when she's like, you know, your power is gonna, you
01:17:59
know, pill and comparison to the power of the Dragon reborn, it's
01:18:03
not true. No.
01:18:06
Okay. So let me ask you a question
01:18:08
because they jumped with him in this episode, does that mean
01:18:11
he's getting his power back? And so, when I didn't care if
01:18:20
their land too much at all, okay?
01:18:22
Okay. Oh, shut up shots.
01:18:25
You'll have to ask you inquiring minds.
01:18:31
I didn't bring it up. She brought that
01:18:47
Thank you. Yeah, I'm Charles to Elena doing
01:18:51
her best. Magneto impression from X-Men
01:18:54
first Class with those arrows. This is the thing I don't
01:19:01
understand, I don't understand. I'm glad you said the Matrix 2
01:19:10
and not Mason a chick's reservation, but I don't
01:19:14
understand. I know I'm sorry, I don't
01:19:17
understand. So So everybody knows about the,
01:19:21
I said, I, you know, that the I said I are powerful.
01:19:25
Why would you be stupid enough? To shoot arrows into a camp full
01:19:32
of magical women. For first of all, it's been a
01:19:36
while since that's what I have have done something like this.
01:19:41
Like an army go up against Isis that because it's been a minute,
01:19:46
it's usually little skirmishes and I like the whole Army.
01:19:49
Mmm. So all they have are stories and
01:19:53
most of them don't believe the stories and they don't trust
01:19:56
assets that they think they're all lies anyway.
01:19:58
So, This easy for them to be like yeah, whatever it's not
01:20:02
true, but guy who claims to be the dragon reborn?
01:20:07
Well will do very well. If you was indeed the dragon
01:20:17
reborn, then the current IC that I would not be able to stand
01:20:21
against him. Okay.
01:20:26
Okay, and we got lucky with aliens and say we did with you
01:20:30
Blues. Did we sneak into his Camp while
01:20:32
he was sleeping and shielded him?
01:20:35
Yeah. Because it in there.
01:20:36
See if he was awake what you've achieved which was proven when
01:20:40
he just dusted him off when he woke up late right.
01:20:44
I just threw a Leander & career. Any into the wall?
01:20:49
Knocked them out because when he woke up he was already in the
01:20:52
kitchen. You've being carted off
01:20:53
somewhere. You say oh, what the fuck.
01:20:55
Okay, I guess I'll just wait till my Army finds me.
01:20:58
Okay. He's like, yeah, the school.
01:21:00
I could use a nap. Yeah, yeah, I'll wake up in a
01:21:02
minute. Y'all just wake me up when the
01:21:04
Army gets here, right. Mmm.
01:21:06
Oh, come also. Shout-out to talk to step in and
01:21:10
step in and say, Yvonne for being, like, for being one of
01:21:16
the coolest gay couples I've ever seen in my life.
01:21:18
I was like, oh, that was a step in.
01:21:20
That was somebody else. What was his name was?
01:21:22
It Maxim Maxim? Yes Max yes, Maxim.
01:21:26
I was like, oh, look at them, just just all out and all out
01:21:29
about was I probably a little check all of those pills.
01:21:34
Pretty cool saying, okay. But that's what I was talking
01:21:36
about earlier where it's like, you know, nowadays you know you
01:21:40
would have seen if it was here, okay?
01:21:43
You would have seen so many entertainment news, articles
01:21:48
Wheel of Time Has gay couple blah, blah, blah, that Stuff.
01:21:53
And again with this show, it's not a big deal and I love that
01:21:58
it's just not a big deal. It's like a part of the
01:22:01
landscape is a part of, you know, just like them having a
01:22:06
black ice to die or Asian I should die.
01:22:08
Or it's, whatever it may take it.
01:22:12
A step further at me, it made them poly afraid.
01:22:15
We is right? Did they would even further?
01:22:20
Yeah. Right.
01:22:21
You know, Retiring for the night.
01:22:23
Oh wait, wait, yeah. All over here right?
01:22:26
Like what was 11 couple starts going everybody and I name.
01:22:30
My name is looking like also, everybody about to go get busy
01:22:34
being with last said, by the way, I, you know, I guess I'm
01:22:38
tired too. I was like, oh no.
01:22:40
She because I think that was the moment that was the moment that
01:22:45
she realized how attractive she was to him because, or, you
01:22:48
know, how she felt about him because he got up to go and You
01:22:52
can see her face kind of change light.
01:22:56
Way, it really was me getting up to go get busy.
01:22:58
That means that he. Oh, and Stephen was sitting next
01:23:02
to her. He just he just drank his tea
01:23:04
and chuckle like oh okay. Right.
01:23:14
That's okay. Now.
01:23:15
Okay I have I have this question to ask.
01:23:17
Now that we know that nine Eve has the 1 power and she's
01:23:22
actually very powerful whatever I'm sure at some point.
01:23:25
Somebody's going to suggest to her that she has to go.
01:23:29
Maybe try to be an oxidizer, they're going to try to get her
01:23:32
to be an acid. I when it comes to Waters
01:23:35
Waters, do they change? I said, I I'm not going to
01:23:41
answer that question, okay? Because I'm sorry.
01:23:45
They they they got to get together, they gotta get
01:23:47
together. It's just, it's kind of a hex,
01:23:52
they have to get together, even in the little things that they
01:23:56
interact when that they interact in.
01:24:00
I feel the chemistry between them, I feel the tension between
01:24:04
them, it's got to happen because what I feel with with, with
01:24:07
those two, I don't feel that with him.
01:24:10
Murmuring. So it's just kind of like, okay
01:24:11
you know what? Yeah, you can I can be your
01:24:13
water on the side but I'm I'm gonna go over here and you know
01:24:16
whatever but I don't know how that works.
01:24:18
I don't know how those relationships were like, can
01:24:21
warders have families. Can they have other people
01:24:25
outside of their? I said, I, you know, I don't
01:24:29
know how the, you know, I don't know the logistics of their
01:24:32
relationships in this story or you know, the it could change
01:24:36
from the way they portray. Those things in the book, they
01:24:39
might change it. The show.
01:24:40
So I'm not going to ask you to spoil anything else or to answer
01:24:44
any other questions Anthony? I think I've hit my limit for
01:24:47
today so I'm Gonna Leave You Alone, your future living for
01:24:49
the next two shows Fair, that's not fair, don't make me, pull
01:25:00
the executive, whatever it is right?
01:25:05
Damn it. No.
01:25:10
Lori's been awfully quiet. Yes.
01:25:12
Because I want it to listen because I watch this episode
01:25:16
like eight times so I I really you liked it that much.
01:25:21
I like the ending. Yes.
01:25:24
Well they go all Airbender I was like oh I'm in earthbending.
01:25:31
Some are you didn't get any fire water?
01:25:35
I thought we were going to get some fire bending with this.
01:25:37
The elevated fire pit snakes. Typically she did bloodbending.
01:25:41
Okay, that was blood baby. Okay okay.
01:25:52
I was quiet tonight because I wanted to sort of see where you
01:25:55
guys are at because I liked this episode very much 1 through 3 E.
01:26:01
I try to watch episode five, three four times and I cannot,
01:26:06
even though I read the first book, a character shows up,
01:26:09
which I Watch Love. And I just mentally, I just
01:26:13
can't get past the first 10 minutes, so I kind of want to
01:26:18
hear you guys read on that. Wait a minute now, I gotta
01:26:21
think, okay. I think I know what you're
01:26:26
talking about, is episode 5, the episode without, and I must say
01:26:30
it like this, and just leave you out of Monday's episode 5.
01:26:33
The one would like the most driest kids ever.
01:26:36
Okay, yes. Yes.
01:26:37
Okay. Okay, I get what you're saying.
01:26:42
So it I mean, especially after everything that happened in this
01:26:46
episode, it is a little bit slower.
01:26:50
There are parts of it that I think our little more emotional
01:26:53
but yeah. I get what you're saying, but
01:26:57
yeah, this episode was just, you know, episodes.
01:27:00
One through thing, three were good to me, you know, enough to
01:27:05
keep me interested and and trying to see where the story is
01:27:08
going to go because again My old Mentor, has been trying to get
01:27:13
me to read this series forever and I just, you know, like I
01:27:16
said, I haven't had time to really read recreationally like
01:27:20
that. So I just never got around to
01:27:22
it. And then now they came out with
01:27:24
the shows like, okay, I might as well watch the show first and
01:27:27
then read the books, because if I read the books and then the
01:27:30
show doesn't follow, then I'm going to get irritating, I don't
01:27:32
want to do that. So but I just This episode
01:27:39
especially the last part of it. Yeah, it totally made it because
01:27:44
when all of that stuff started happening like, okay, so we get
01:27:47
to see the I said, I like really fight and you get to see the
01:27:50
other waters fight and get to see land fight.
01:27:53
Okay. This is cool and then you see
01:27:55
all the stuff that happens with low gain and his power, and then
01:27:59
you see the sisters come in and then 9 a.m. just kind of.
01:28:03
It was just kind of like, well I like I literally just sat there
01:28:06
like Wow. Wow.
01:28:11
But again, isn't the other thing I like about the show.
01:28:13
I love it. That the women are so powerful,
01:28:18
love it. And then load game says, this
01:28:20
little line, two, Was it Lee and room?
01:28:25
Or he said it to Moraine talking about his power and how, you
01:28:30
know, they should want to follow me?
01:28:32
No, we have had enough of women. Following powerful man forever.
01:28:37
No sit your ass down and let this let these women take over
01:28:42
be totally out of character for the series anyway because the
01:28:45
women are our most powerful ones anyway.
01:28:47
So I see a man felt like why like that's stupid because
01:28:51
you're changing the whole dynamic of the series.
01:28:54
Because the women are the most powerful powerful beings in this
01:28:57
world so they might as well continue to be.
01:29:01
Yeah, I mean powerful enough to that can take the Man's power
01:29:04
away from them and leave them, leave them quivering masses and,
01:29:10
you know, ya feeling like they have nothing left and let the
01:29:19
women stay in charge. I have no problem with that
01:29:22
whatsoever. Gentling has wonderful effect
01:29:26
where you can sense the one power.
01:29:32
They it's just, it's almost it's like you have control over it
01:29:36
and then it's gone, but you can still sense it.
01:29:39
Like, it's there, just out of your reach and that's where
01:29:44
you're pointing my finger at y'all on the thing.
01:29:47
And y'all are just out of my reach, like I can't touch you
01:29:50
but, you know, we're there and it is That's that's with it.
01:29:54
This, why they shielding be distilled in a little different.
01:29:58
Shielding is supposed to. You can't sense the power at all
01:30:03
or use it, okay? He's been a while.
01:30:10
I haven't gotten to the books yet where they they start
01:30:13
shielding people but from what I remember he in the book if you
01:30:18
had been sealed it you can't use the 1 power.
01:30:22
You don't feel it. You don't sense it.
01:30:24
You don't know anything. Oh wow, cut off from me
01:30:29
mentally, you can still see it there and you live the rest of
01:30:34
your days where is right there and you can't touch it and you
01:30:37
you miss it because it's like a greased baking.
01:30:40
Shielding is it has a bigger effect on a person than the
01:30:44
gentling. Well, the shielding can be
01:30:47
removed, the shooting is temporary.
01:30:50
Oh okay, okay, okay. Gentling or stealing which is
01:30:54
with the also call it is you are you don't you can't access it
01:31:00
anymore. Okay.
01:31:01
When you said shielding and when you say once they've been
01:31:03
shielded, I thought you meant that once they've had that done
01:31:07
to them. Then they can't feel, okay?
01:31:09
The shielding is ongoing ceiling to prevent you from using the 1
01:31:13
power. Okay?
01:31:14
So technically, we're that technically, but as far as the
01:31:18
book goes, all the stuff that he was doing at the end he went to
01:31:22
be able to do, okay? Because he can even be able to
01:31:26
he wouldn't even be able to sense, the 1 power, okay?
01:31:30
Okay. All right.
01:31:32
So then, yeah, that's, that's a lot of changes, a lot.
01:31:36
That's a major. That was a major change Lots.
01:31:39
Yeah. Okay.
01:31:42
The varied but their description of gentling is accurate, okay?
01:31:48
That's where it causes them to kind of people to kind of losing
01:31:51
and kill themselves, or just waste a wave that we miss it.
01:31:56
They can see it, they can feel it with the can't use it.
01:32:00
They can't touch it. Hmm.
01:32:03
That sucks. Yeah yeah, it's gonna suck for
01:32:07
logging. Hmm.
01:32:10
Well, Okay, Reserves. He has like the stuff that he
01:32:23
did towards the end. What happened with Quran and all
01:32:26
that stuff. Okay.
01:32:27
Yeah, but before like was self-defense though.
01:32:31
Yeah, well, yeah. But like before, like what what
01:32:35
do we know about his character? Except for what we saw at the
01:32:38
beginning of this episode and you know, he could have killed
01:32:42
the king out, right? But he didn't and he sat there
01:32:46
and talk to the king. He told the king, he was like,
01:32:49
you know, the basically everybody else has been saying
01:32:52
The Last Dragon broke the world, but I'm not going to do that.
01:32:55
What did he say? I'm here to bind it.
01:32:57
Yeah, I'm here. He was going to fulfill the
01:32:59
prophecy he was giving an army together.
01:33:03
He had gathered well but not going to tell you but he
01:33:07
actually half of gilding which is where he was from.
01:33:10
He got that Army and be king and being there was like another
01:33:13
country and he was On his way to tear and he would have taken
01:33:17
tear if he was dragging reborn and he was added them to his
01:33:22
army. So he was literally getting an
01:33:25
army together for the last battle.
01:33:28
So he wasn't his only crime was that he was a man who could
01:33:32
Channel. Okay.
01:33:36
Yeah, so maybe he didn't deserve all of that, you know, but but
01:33:43
Landon had her way and I just want to know.
01:33:46
Is there going to be some consequences to her actually
01:33:49
doing You know, going against what the Army Lindsay said, who
01:33:55
wherever? Because like like my said I do
01:34:01
feel like she kind of manipulated that whole thing.
01:34:03
Like and then after, you know, currently dies and he attacks
01:34:07
them, she's like, oh okay, y'all give me your power because he
01:34:11
just gave us our explanation right here.
01:34:14
Yeah, yeah, I mean we'll see. But I mean, you can even I
01:34:21
wouldn't be surprised if someone would argue that she manipulated
01:34:24
the situation to the point where maybe she weakened her Shield.
01:34:29
Just enough so he would kill somebody.
01:34:32
Well yeah I don't know, I don't know if her put it, I would put
01:34:36
hurt you. I don't know.
01:34:50
Do I think that she would actually she would purposefully
01:34:53
kill one of her sisters? Well okay I'll back up maybe she
01:34:57
wouldn't see with him. Wanted him to kill anyone but
01:35:01
she definitely would have wanted him to get away.
01:35:03
Get free. Okay.
01:35:05
As if he had freed himself there, would have you ever heard
01:35:09
enough justification justification to do it right
01:35:12
man. And I have to wait for trial as
01:35:15
she meets a good point. She's like do you feel how
01:35:17
powerful he is? We're not going to be able to
01:35:20
make it a ton of Lon you know we we have to go right taking
01:35:26
shifts trying to Shield him that that's gonna be a problem,
01:35:29
right? And then they were going to have
01:35:31
to be you know even if they did travel to Target along with him
01:35:37
they're going to two of them are going to be constantly trying to
01:35:40
Shield him. What happens if they're attacked
01:35:43
on the road. They could have easily been
01:35:45
tacked on the road, just like they were attacked at camp.
01:35:48
And then what, then if you start seeing all the stuff happening,
01:35:53
do you still keep up your Shield?
01:35:54
Because if the people around you start falling eventually is
01:36:00
you're going to fall or you're going to let him go.
01:36:03
So you can fight and, you know, so it.
01:36:05
Well, first of all, you have to understand me.
01:36:08
You go device that there's nobody, I'm getting that, nobody
01:36:14
Bay is going to take the, a caravan and be able to be like,
01:36:17
it's okay. If you have no, it doesn't work
01:36:20
like that. Yeah, I got no one would be bold
01:36:24
enough. To attack.
01:36:28
And I said I Caravan unless you are and I start like no one
01:36:32
would do that. Quote might give me some pause.
01:36:37
Okay, first of all I'm not I'm not going to give anything away
01:36:41
but the white clothes don't want them Dead Heat.
01:36:44
Oh if it's one ice die. Okay baby.
01:36:50
Yeah, he's got seven or eight of them on his 78 of those rings
01:36:54
but trust me. I wonder how did he go about?
01:36:56
Capturing them, like I have questions I have questions.
01:37:01
Well, you there are a lot of white cloaks and you throw in
01:37:04
the father, Adam and all you have to do is take out the water
01:37:08
and once you take the waters out, if they have one but I fly,
01:37:12
you know, she's gonna get tired, just keep throwing people out
01:37:15
here until you get your moment. Okay.
01:37:17
Now, because see this before even though baby and talk about
01:37:20
it, but Valda is a blade master and those there's very few of
01:37:26
them and they are nobody wants to try to take them one-on-one
01:37:31
unless you want to become one. Hmm.
01:37:33
Okay, so so that that there's that but yeah, even the white
01:37:40
cloaks They are round tar valon and you know, that they want to
01:37:45
kill. I said I but they would never
01:37:47
try to attack an acid. I group device that that that
01:37:52
would be very bad for them. Okay, and they know it And the
01:37:58
other thing is after they gentle loghain and, you know, all of
01:38:04
them kind of started standing down.
01:38:06
Did you see the Expressions on everybody else's face?
01:38:09
They were like, what the fuck did we just do?
01:38:12
Like we just did the one thing we were not supposed to do.
01:38:16
Because they were supposed to take, take him back to Tar valon
01:38:19
for trial, they were instructed to.
01:38:22
And it's like in the Heat of the Moment they gave me engine their
01:38:27
power. So that she could do that
01:38:28
because she was about to she was about to burn herself to a
01:38:31
crisp. Did you see her face?
01:38:32
Start glowing? Yeah.
01:38:34
So I understand they did that to give their sister their strength
01:38:38
and to, you know, keep him from killing them again or attacking
01:38:42
them again. But as everybody's hand started
01:38:45
coming down Their faces were like what the fuck did we just
01:38:49
do? I was like old.
01:38:53
Y'all might be in some trouble. Okay, there we did.
01:39:00
We skip over anything? I think we know we got their
01:39:04
accessories. Everything Okay, we have to they
01:39:09
have to form a circle to perform gentling or stealing, so this,
01:39:16
that's why she asked them to join with her.
01:39:18
Okay? Okay, yeah, that's why she asked
01:39:22
to do that. So she could do it.
01:39:24
They can do it together. Yeah, they did it in, like I
01:39:28
said afterwards. They were all like you weren't
01:39:31
supposed to do that when this story as it seemed was
01:39:35
happening. Cuz I was watching you in
01:39:37
tonight. Bailey walked into the room and
01:39:39
she's like, are you watching? Eternals isn't isn't it?
01:39:43
You Turtles? All right.
01:39:46
You're funny. You're funny.
01:39:48
She's like, no, because he's never seen you Turtles but she
01:39:51
knows what happens is the colorful.
01:39:55
Okay? Okay, look at Bailey paying
01:39:59
attention. Okay.
01:40:08
Gotcha. Okay.
01:40:10
All right, any last thoughts on this episode.
01:40:15
I can't wait to hear what this song is like I mean damn, it
01:40:20
signal, your song we're not doing it on that.
01:40:22
Note that the song? No, No, No Song, Anthony about,
01:40:29
but for real, I'm real. I wanted I'm in a really
01:40:31
interested to see how how the, nomadic hippies factor in all
01:40:36
this because you can tell there's more than meets the eye
01:40:38
to them. Like they're, they're like they
01:40:40
have, there's something like if they're really pushed into a
01:40:43
corner. No matter how much they say this
01:40:46
is kind of thing, it's kind of a Trope in certain stories, where
01:40:50
it's like, no matter how much someone says, I'm not going to
01:40:53
fight you. I don't want to fight if you
01:40:55
push somebody far enough or you hit the right button, they're
01:40:59
going to do, they're going to defend themselves.
01:41:01
Yeah, those wagons. Hi.
01:41:03
Hi, big howitzers and 50 cows. Hell yeah, let's shoot em up,
01:41:08
step, Bang, Bang. I will say this too.
01:41:11
As far as the Tinkers Ila Miss Maria Doyle Kennedy.
01:41:19
Anytime she has to do a scene like that when she's talking
01:41:22
about like the loss of a child or something like you know,
01:41:25
something of that sad nature like she did in this episode.
01:41:29
She did a similar. She had a similar incident
01:41:34
happened to her last season and Outlander.
01:41:37
So she talks about that, I'm thinking that oh and then of
01:41:42
course as you know, Queen Catherine and the tutors she was
01:41:46
just like so so Of suffering. In that show, she plays those
01:41:52
scenes amazingly but I really want them to stop giving her
01:41:58
these stats and you stopped giving her the sad stories.
01:42:01
Give her something happy, that's all I'm gonna say.
01:42:05
But Laura you got anything else? No, I'm good.
01:42:11
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