#thewalkingdead #daryldixon #thebookofcarol The day the world ended is shown from Madame Genet's viewpoint. Carol finds her way inside Maison Mere, where her search for Daryl takes an unexpected turn. Efforts to save Laurent from the Ceremony has explosive consequences. Daryl and Isabelle do what is necessary to protect Laurent. Isabelle makes a startling confession. Madame Genet plans to attack The Nest using a secret weapon.
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What's up, hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast. This is Hanukkah and I'm here
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with Michelle and Casey and we are discussing season 2, episode
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3 of The Daryl Dixon Show. And we are going to start at the
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very beginning, just like the show because we get a little bit
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of Madam Janae's background. And even knowing all of this, it
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still don't make her a sympathetic character to me.
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I'm just a little bit. No, but.
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Yeah, she used to work in the, she used to work in the move as
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a, as a custodian. And that's where she was when
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the world went to shit and everybody started panicking.
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She couldn't leave her job. And then her husband, I guess
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her husband probably worked there too cuz he kept saying
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they won't let me in the staff entrance.
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So that's probably where they met.
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He couldn't get in, she couldn't get out.
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And then she had to sit there and watch as one of the walkers
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tour or actually a couple of walkers tore her husband apart.
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I was like, OK, you know what? I can see that as a feasible
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villain origin story. I can and I do have a little bit
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of, I won't say sympathy for her, but I do like how it seems
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that she sticks her. She sticks her neck out for the
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little people or she's the one protecting the little people.
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Like, you have this, you have this scene where the people who
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were outside or some of her other people, they're in there
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getting ready to eat. And somebody is complaining
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about the quality of the food and throws his tray down on the
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ground. And one of her workers is about
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to go pick it up. And she looked there and she was
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like, Nope. So do you know how hard it is
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for food to come by these days? When she started speaking to
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him, it's almost like his whole domain had changed.
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Like he didn't realize Madam Janay was gonna be in the same
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room with them. Which, funnily enough, so is
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Carol. They really did that shit quick.
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They did that shit quick. But.
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They did. Going back to the guy before we
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get to the Carol stuff, he's looking at her.
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He was like, we met him. She was like, OK, so you, you're
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you're going to clean it up. Get on your, get on your knees
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and eat off the floor. I was like, oh, she was like,
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you not about to disrespect my folks after they have been in
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here working and cooking, trying to get people fed.
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Like, do you know how hard it is to get fresh hot food right now?
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And you want to throw it on the floor because it ain't got
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enough seasoning, bro, this ain't the time or place.
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So I respect her for that. But oh, this episode, well, she
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clearly makes an enemy out of Carol.
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I give her, I give her one, maybe two more episodes.
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It's going to be over cause Carol.
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Y'all don't play that shit like once she 'cause why they
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standing at the Mona Lisa? Which I will say from experience
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it ain't that big. The Mona Lisa is a 8 by 10, just
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FYI. It's small.
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It's small as hell. We, we damn near missed it when
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we went to Duluth. I was like, that's it.
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Oh yeah, it's small as hell. Literally anywho.
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But while they stand in there and she goes off to talk to the
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to the guy who she tells to eat off the food.
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You are showing your power right now.
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And for somebody like Carol, who you have not talked to, you have
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not said much words to to get a grasp on who she is.
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Carol is a information whore. So she has everything that you
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doing. She is taking that and she about
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to play your ass. Like you have to remember,
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especially with the new people who popping up 'cause your
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people out there just recruiting people, you don't know who they
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are. You know it.
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You don't know about nobody. So and now we got an American.
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Wait, hold on. Another American We we.
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Then we have this conversation. Then we have this conversation.
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Another American like. And then you'd be starting to
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question, OK, did you come from? Right, and then, but for her to
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know that Daryl came from America and Daryl, Daryl, Daryl,
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Daryl's story on how he got there.
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And then Carol with her, her back story.
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Oh, I was here before the fall. So Daryl that you want to kill
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him 'cause he just got hit? Well, he wasn't until the end,
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that wasn't. It that was it.
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That her friend her. Friend outed her that that was
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that her friend outed her. So I mean, I think the way that
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she was going because she, she comes in, you know, everybody
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who's on the truck, they get fresh food and then they're
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assigned they're like they're assigned jobs.
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Carol's assigned to the kitchen. Her, the, the, the guy with the
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husband, he's assigned to the stables and they're getting the
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information. They're trying to figure out
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what's going on. They see like some of the sick
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people being taken through a tunnel and they follow them.
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And then what happens is these people are shot execution style
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and then they're injected with the serum.
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The thing about this scene that kind of irked me was Carol and
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this guy. They just, they walk down this
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tunnel like nobody's going to be paying attention to them for the
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first thing. Then they're right there at the
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door. There's a little crack in the
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door like this, so you can see Carol's face.
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You clearly see a soldier's shirt.
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Let me try that again. You clearly see a soldier's
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shoulder right there. I'm talking so loud.
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Not still not. Hey, what y'all doing over
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there? May as well had to say, right?
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Right. I was like.
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Why is it? So loud.
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Why are they being so? I was like Carol trying to get
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caught but apparently no, she's not.
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She's just trying to find out what's going on.
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They realized that some experiments are going on and you
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know her, her friend. I cannot remember what his name
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is. Did he say Remy or something
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like that? But anyway, the name.
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Julian, because his his partner is Julian.
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Julian is his husband. Julian is the husband, right?
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I can't remember his name is OK. Oh, I forgot, right?
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But he's, you know, giving Carol a little bit of background about
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Maison Mayer and, you know, rumors that they've heard about
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the things that Madam Janae does and how she's trying to unify
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France or she's trying to build a new France.
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And there are rumors that she's been doing experiments and all
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this other stuff. So like you said, Carol is a fun
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she she's soaking all of this up and as she's working in the
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kitchens again, I feel like, wow, Carol has the most unusual
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luck because she's working in the kitchens and she is making
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herself very obvious. Hey, I'm looking for an
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American. His name is Daryl Dixon.
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Have you have you heard of this American like like Carol, I
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understand you haven't been here and you don't know that Daryl
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and this woman has some some beef, but still, can you be a
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little can you be a little more like inconspicuous just just
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just like this much just a. Little bit just a.
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Little bit, but then the crazy thing is Cadrone is actually
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there and he overhears her and gives her some information that
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she needs, which is basically if Madam Janae finds they're
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decent, he's a dead man. Like, that's, that's about all
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you need to know. And I was like, OK, you gotta
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kind of wonder what mad what Madam Janae's like, what is her
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purpose in keeping Quadrone alive?
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Like she's already tortured him. He's got a bandage over her,
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over his eyes. So I'm kind of wondering if she
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used that Corkscrew in a different way and plucked that
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eye out, especially when she was talking about remembering the
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last episode. She was talking about her mother
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and how to get out of a broken Corkscrew.
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She was like, you can't, you can't pull too hard.
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You can't, you can't be too soft.
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You have to apply just the right amount of pressure to pull it
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out. I was like, oh, she about to
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take his eye out and now he's got a bandage over his eyes.
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So I think that's what she did. I'll.
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Don't be gory like you already Walking Dead.
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Don't. Be I'm just saying gore seems to
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be kind of her Forte because if have you looked at some of the
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walkers that she injects with the serums lately?
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Those are not pretty walkers and those are not pretty pills.
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I mean, their heads explode with black goo so.
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But they're dead. No, no, But they're already
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dead. She's doing this to someone
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who's alive, like she zapping a Walker with a serum to make him
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explode it. No, that's nothing.
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This a girl. This is this is a live person.
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He fucking out his eyeball with a damn Corkscrew.
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You. Yeah, I mean.
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But she, she might, she might do it.
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She might. But let me tell you, I I just
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what's the purpose in keeping him alive?
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Because obviously if he if he hasn't spilled his guts by now.
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He's not going to, yeah. I'm.
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Certainly not. So it's just.
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With me but. You know what on GP I'm not
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telling you. Shit on GP right?
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And why would I kill? But why would I kill him too?
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Because I can, he can we do research on them.
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Which, yeah. On mental one of the walkers.
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You see what I'm saying? Why just kill people?
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No. People are we can be.
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Used. Especially somebody who's
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strong, who has military. Right, we can see how the how
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the serum works on him. No, we're not going to kill him.
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He just let him heal so we can turn him into a Walker.
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Especially when we find out later on, her whole goal is that
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this serum will allow her to control the walkers.
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That's what she's trying to do, really.
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That's what we going to do because trying to control stuff
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like that never turns out well. Zombies, monsters, AI, Anytime
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you try to control any one of those three things, it's not
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going to turn out well. I'm waiting for the day when all
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the Skynet shit happens in real life because all everybody's
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pushing AI this, AI that, AI that, and I'm just sitting back
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and looking like I guess I'm the old.
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You are the. Old person now.
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And you already see Elon Musk with his I Robot we saw.
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Did you see the ending of I Robot?
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I'm sorry. Yeah.
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Yeah. That's that's all.
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I don't want no robot. Keep your robot to yourself.
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Yes, yes. So in the same bank, why are you
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trying to control the walkers? What, like you want an army and
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indestructible army? And just in the earlier episodes
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when she was talking about trying to unify France, she was
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talking about trying to bring peace to the people and this,
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that and the other. I was a little skeptical, but I
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was like, OK, maybe she has good intentions.
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And Michelle was like, no, OK, yeah, no, no, she really has a
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power grab in in mind. And she's about to like, she's
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sacrificing people to do this. Yeah, towards the because
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towards the end, like you're telling people that they're
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gonna, that they're gonna, they're gonna be an intricate
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part of the future of, of securing the future.
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And you're the minute, she said. Your sacrifice, she might.
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Kill you. I would have been like Carol,
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like stepping on back and be like.
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No. No, because what all because
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you're afraid of a little boy? Really.
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Like, I just want I I want to see the background of how this
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whole thing about Laurent and how special he.
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I want to see the origin story. I mean, we've seen the
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pregnancy. We we saw the birth.
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We know that origin story. It had to be what is named
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Father Pierre Jean. The what?
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What were you going around telling people?
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That's what I. Need.
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He was sending birds, pigeons to different groups, telling them
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we have our savior, he's going to fix everything.
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It was a miracle. Miracle he survived being
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birthed alive as a human, coming from someone who had turned.
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And that's, and that's the other thing again, I don't understand
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why you are sending that information out, making it
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widely known because you know they're going to be fanatics.
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You know, they're going to be zealous.
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You know they're going to be people who are going to look
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and, and go on the opposite spectrum.
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Oh, you guys are worshipping an idol.
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We need to kill him. Why would you?
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And why are you putting that kind of pressure on a little
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boy, on a young man? He's almost like Steel Guard on
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Doom. Yeah, I just.
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And so now you have Madame Janae, who wants to kill this
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little boy because he, you know, he's disrupting her plans to
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unify France. She wants it to be known as
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she's unifying France and blah. This woman, I'm telling you, she
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just frustrates me. But I need care.
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Carol. OK, you you kept up your little
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charade for a little while. You, you know, made it seem like
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you were all gung ho for this. And then of course once you find
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out some information about where Daryl may be the nest cause
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Codrone gives it up, you get ready to escape.
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Now again, didn't we just talk about this in the last episode
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about being so trusting of people and and just because the
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one person that you trusted because y'all bonded over
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looking for your people. This is the male who turns you
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in to Janae in order to free his husband.
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I was like, come on, Carol. Do we?
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But again, you have to keep in mind Carol wouldn't be in that
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stealth. She just wasn't.
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She wasn't. Really wasn't.
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She wasn't. And then you know, he wanted to
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get his, but he wanted to get his husband back.
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But he is the one who at least made it possible for her by
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saying she wanted to kill him. But Madam Jeanette, OK, so let's
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go back to this whole thing. So he did kind of help her even
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though he he cause isn't that right?
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'Cause I think that's what I gathered.
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No. How did she figure it out that
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she, Carol wanted to kill Darrell?
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Because she, because she asked Carol why she was, why was she
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looking for Darrell? She was like, you came all this
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way. Why, why are you looking for
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him? And she said, because I'm going
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to kill him. And she said, oh, I wonder what
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he did to you to make you, you know, to, to make you want to
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come this far, you know, And then she starts talking about
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how, you know, they as women have to, you know, they're
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always have control. And then they have.
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To forget, forgive and forget, right?
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But I think, I don't think he told Madam Janay the extent of
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Carol's. I don't think so either because
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she says to him that Daryl is her brother.
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Which again, when she said that, I said, oh, I just feel the
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wrath of the Internet right now because that's the first time
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she's ever placed a quote UN quote label on her relationship
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with Darrell. But to her, to her, that's what
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it feels like. He's family.
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I can't be her uncle. I understand that.
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But what I'm a step daddy is there's all these people who
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want Carol and Darrell to be. Together I know I and I got.
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I got on them last about how they have a different type.
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Of. Relationship.
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That's her brother. So she had to put a label on it
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for her. She's going to put her her
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brother. She can't walk around.
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Say that's my platonic soul mate.
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That makes no sense. Or my best friend.
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Yeah, that's not even enough to say best friend.
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Yeah, husband. People be like, huh, He can die,
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you'll be all right. Yeah.
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But brother, I don't think that dude was because I don't think
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he would because shit, he's sitting there trying to find his
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husband. So yeah, but child and a
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sibling, that's even a closer bond.
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So, you know, she had, she played that.
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Because she don't think of him my husband.
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Husband she. Had to say brother.
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Anything else would have been like.
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And she didn't think, old boy. Didn't say my nephew.
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I mean, yeah, look at the age here.
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And she didn't, and she didn't think Old Boy was going to tell.
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But. My baby daddy, I mean.
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No, no. Oh.
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But Matt and Madam Janay calls it, she was like, yeah,
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information is a commodity here, 'cause that dude looked at her.
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He was like, I'm so sorry. When she walked in and saw him
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and saw the husband, she was like, yeah, I should just kill
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Joe. Right, I'm trying to.
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Tweet like a goddamn bird. Tweet, Tweet, tweet.
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Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet.
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Which one? Which one I got?
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I got all the information. Like I said, I don't think he
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told Madam Janay everything. He probably told her that Carol
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was looking for Daryl Dixon, You know, once they realized Carol
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was gone, because Carol, her escape did not last very long at
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all. Like she, she.
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Got one of the gallop, gallop, gallop, gallop, gallop and
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you're done. And they were there and I was
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just like, wow, Carol, you really didn't think this
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through. But she's going on emotions.
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She she just crossed, she just crossed an ocean and literally
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found out in a few days when her her target is.
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So she probably was just like, I need to go find him.
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If he's in trouble, I need to go.
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I need to go make sure he's OK. Get him home, because if Madam
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Janae has it out for him, the way that the rumor is about this
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American, Oh no, we need to get out of here 'cause at some
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point, Carol does have to think Madam Janae is going to put two
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and two together. Oh, he's an American.
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She's an American. What we got going on here.
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And it just so happens she found out a little bit earlier than
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Carol expected. But I mean, I thought Carol was
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given a good game when she said I want to kill him 'cause she
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made it. I mean, Cat, like you said,
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Casey Carroll is a chameleon. She can make things seem that
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way. But y'all, you know, people
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forget Madam's name was like, I can look into the eyes of a liar
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and tell when they're lying. So I was like, let's see how
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long this is going to hold up. She's being all nice to Carol.
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And you know, they, but also with Carol.
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And Carol explaining how she got there, that's that passion to
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find Daryl. Even if she she can say she can
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send someone's lying, you still see that passion.
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And it could be love or anger. Yeah, 'cause who is going to lie
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to a stranger to get flown to Greenland to kill 2
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environmentalists who was trying to get a sperm donor to get all
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the way there? Yeah, I want.
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Yeah, it makes sense. She really wants to kill his
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butt. Yeah, but I don't think, I don't
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think Janae bought that like she may have I.
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Think she. I think she does because she
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seems like I think she did all the way to the end, to be honest
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with you. I don't think so.
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I think somewhere in the middle, maybe somewhere in that, that
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car ride when they were having a conversation because Carol, she
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has a little bit of a tail. She.
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Does but. You know, it's like someone.
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Her face kind of softens when she does talk about Daryl.
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But I also want you to think about this, though.
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Again, I think she believed her all the way to the end.
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Even when she says you will do it in a different way.
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I just don't think the reason why she did that was you can
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tell that Carol is a alpha. If we're gonna go back to those
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ratings from the CRM, I'm not keeping Carol around because
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once she kills Darryl, what else?
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Now what's she gonna do? Especially since I've been
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trying to kill him all this time and can't.
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Haven't been able to do it yet. Yeah, and she got this far.
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Yeah, you're right. You are very.
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I don't. No, I mean, I believe her.
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She can kill him. She can kill him in the way of
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she can become, you know, our experiment.
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However, I can't keep this woman around because she is very
00:23:03
similar to me and I don't know where what her direction may go
00:23:09
after this is all over. Yeah, you are very right.
00:23:12
And she doesn't. She's not afraid of me.
00:23:16
That part. Yeah, that part.
00:23:18
Everyone else is afraid of me. Yeah.
00:23:21
Oh, no, no, no, no. We can't do this.
00:23:25
And not to mention. I like her.
00:23:28
She's like, I like her. Soldiers with no weapons.
00:23:32
Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, she yeah, I can't have
00:23:35
her. And I like her.
00:23:38
She went like I oh, I can respect the hell, all of her,
00:23:41
but she can't stay. Yeah, yeah, I do see that.
00:23:48
But when she but the way she turned on Carol was so quick
00:23:52
because they got the information.
00:23:55
She she finally figures out that, you know, Laurent and them
00:23:59
are at the nest. She tells Carol.
00:24:01
Oh, yeah. I'll take you to him.
00:24:02
You want to kill him? Yeah, I'll take you.
00:24:04
We found out. We figured out where they were
00:24:07
and we're going to need a raid there.
00:24:09
So yeah, come on with us. She lets Carol sit in the truck
00:24:12
with her. They had a conversation.
00:24:15
Cha took about a Louvre. Yeah.
00:24:18
Sightsee, right sightsee. And then when they finally get
00:24:24
there, like I said, they have all the people out there, the
00:24:29
the volunteers, especially the man who had to eat the food off
00:24:32
the off the floor now when Carol saw him.
00:24:36
You should be scared. She, I think she clocked what
00:24:39
was going on because she looked at him and she just kind of went
00:24:41
like this. She was like, OK, you can see
00:24:46
the gears turning, like, OK, I need to figure out some shit
00:24:49
real quick 'cause this is about to get ugly.
00:24:53
And when Madam Janay was she, when she goes, Madam Janay, she
00:24:56
was like, you're going to turn them.
00:24:59
Yeah, we're we're about to turn them and, and get what we want,
00:25:02
but we don't give you what you want too.
00:25:04
So you can go in there and kill. You said you wanted to kill your
00:25:06
friend. I'm about to let you do it.
00:25:08
And I was like, oh, she thinks she got to turn Carol.
00:25:11
So yeah, when she, when she pushes Carol into the crowd and
00:25:16
is giving orders to shoot them. I was just like, Carrie, you
00:25:20
cutting this shit too close. You are cutting it too close.
00:25:24
Damn it. And all the while those folks in
00:25:27
the nest don't know what's going on 'cause they got they got
00:25:30
their own drama going on. I cannot fucking believe they
00:25:34
killed Sylvie. Oh, ain't got lookouts?
00:25:38
I cannot believe they fucking killed Sylvie.
00:25:41
I'm so mad. I'm so mad.
00:25:44
I texted Casey. I was like, do you see this
00:25:46
shit? And then user and then used her.
00:25:53
Girl, now I will say this, I had a feeling that that will
00:25:59
probably happen, but I was. But they were using.
00:26:03
That they would, that they would use cell because they're like,
00:26:05
oh, we got a fresh body right here.
00:26:08
But the way that he did it, he was like, yeah, so we're about
00:26:12
to do this experiment. We're about to show you guys
00:26:14
that, you know, this is the proof that blah, blah, blah.
00:26:17
And you know, what better way to prove this than with, you know,
00:26:21
using someone that loves Laurent?
00:26:24
And you already got the boy drugs so he can't have a proper
00:26:28
reaction once he realizes that this is basically his sister
00:26:33
because that's how they were raised.
00:26:36
You got Daryl and Falou and Isabel who have snuck back into
00:26:40
the grounds, and this is how they find out.
00:26:43
I was like, I was almost expecting Isabel to shoot up
00:26:49
that whole place. Once she saw Sylvie's face, I
00:26:55
was expecting it. She got better.
00:26:59
She got better control than me, 'cause all of them would have
00:27:02
been dead. What's?
00:27:04
The question so, but I guess I guess that's right, 'cause like
00:27:09
nobody noticed them two in the crowd, but then you.
00:27:13
Yeah, I thought. I thought the same thing, Yeah.
00:27:15
Like no, I was. Like she's standing right next
00:27:18
to you and y'all be like hey. But you have to remember most of
00:27:22
the people, most of the regular people at the Nest, they don't
00:27:25
know the the extent to what Lo Sang Jacinta are doing.
00:27:31
They have no clue. Like even when Sylvie was coming
00:27:34
out of the building and she was saying they're going to kill
00:27:36
him, they're going to hit kill, they're looking at her like,
00:27:38
what are you talking about? They have no clue about what's
00:27:42
going on behind the scenes. So when all this starts coming
00:27:46
out, that's why everybody was looking shocked.
00:27:48
My thing is after Sylvie fell off that parapet and and she
00:27:53
died, y'all sure clean that blood up real quick 'cause what?
00:27:58
And I am bit of blood on the ground But I digress.
00:28:04
I'm just saying I think it's fucked up that y'all killed her
00:28:07
and all she was trying to do was warn everybody and all these
00:28:10
people who are see this is. Cheap, cheap, cheap.
00:28:17
Uh huh, Uh huh. Yeah.
00:28:21
I'm not even I'm I'm. I'm not gonna say what I was
00:28:23
gonna say 'cause I just. However, when the shooting gets
00:28:28
involved, y'all took off running.
00:28:30
Wait, 'cause like they've seen? Walkers before cause like when
00:28:34
they put 'cause if you look at that scene when they bring her
00:28:38
out before they took the hood off was the step back from
00:28:42
everybody because it was Sylvie, because they had never seen no
00:28:45
one here before they. Probably.
00:28:46
Because the way everybody step back.
00:28:48
And they have been at the Mont Saint Michelle for that long.
00:28:53
Most of those people probably have not seen a the same
00:28:56
conversation we were having a couple of episodes ago where we
00:29:00
were talking about these people are not prepared like Darren
00:29:02
needs to be teaching all of them how to how to protect.
00:29:06
This and. And I think also because of who
00:29:09
it was, I think so it, it was like, oh, I thought we're going
00:29:12
to get a random, random. The way that they all move back,
00:29:18
like, Oh my God, it's a Walker. Like what?
00:29:22
Yeah, it's a Walker that that confused me.
00:29:27
So I wasn't sure if it was 'cause it was her or because
00:29:30
they just ain't never seen no damn Walker before.
00:29:32
And you know, I mean, granted, there ain't that many walkers.
00:29:35
Some of them are old enough they've seen a Walker before.
00:29:37
Yeah, but I was gonna say, maybe it wasn't the fact that they
00:29:41
hadn't seen a Walker before, or it maybe it wasn't even the fact
00:29:45
that it was Sylvie. Maybe, again, maybe most of
00:29:50
these people don't know exactly what the ceremony was going to
00:29:56
entail 'cause all those Zang has to do is tell them.
00:30:01
I mean, think about it, any time that we've heard them talk about
00:30:05
Laurent and what he's supposed to do, nobody has ever said how
00:30:11
he's going to save everyone. They just says Laurent is here
00:30:14
to save us. He's our savior, He's our
00:30:17
Messiah. Nobody tells you what you have
00:30:20
to do in order to be that until there's a ceremony.
00:30:22
I mean, think about it. OK, let's since this is based on
00:30:27
religious, you know, religious beliefs, nobody told the
00:30:33
believers that Jesus was going to get hung on the cross.
00:30:37
You know what I'm saying? It's just always about God's son
00:30:40
and how he's going to, he's going to, you know, be the
00:30:42
sacrificial lamb, blah blah blah, blah, blah.
00:30:44
And then when what happens happens, y'all look like, what
00:30:48
the fuck are y'all doing? I have a feeling this the same
00:30:51
way with this. They just knew that they were
00:30:54
about to experience a miracle. And then when Lo Sang said what
00:30:58
he said and then they they brought Sylvie and they put the
00:31:02
hood back and they saw she was the the Walker I.
00:31:07
Mean it was a miracle, 'cause she's prayed let me do whatever
00:31:11
I need to do protect to protect him, right?
00:31:14
You see he ain't get beaten, right?
00:31:17
Right. I'm just saying.
00:31:19
No, he didn't. He didn't get beat.
00:31:26
She did her job. I mean, at the end of the day,
00:31:29
she did her job right. She prayed to God, please let me
00:31:31
be the one to protect him. What she got, she and she said
00:31:34
by any means necessary, but she did.
00:31:39
She did what she set out to do. I mean, it's fucked up she had
00:31:42
to die to do it. But because if they didn't, OK,
00:31:46
say she didn't die, say they kept in a little what Walker
00:31:48
they was going to use. That's a good.
00:31:51
Question. They may have sacrificed
00:31:53
somebody. I was going to say they probably
00:31:55
would have sacrificed somebody. And it probably still would have
00:31:58
been her because what she locked in the room, locked away where
00:32:04
nobody could get her, she was. So it still might have been her,
00:32:10
you know what I'm saying? Because in the speech that he
00:32:13
gave, I'm sure he had that prepared.
00:32:16
Why not from somebody he knows? Because keep in my what devil's
00:32:23
advocate say for Lou and Isabel didn't go and you, you are.
00:32:29
Because this is the speech that you already have.
00:32:31
I don't think he would have sacrificed Isabel though.
00:32:34
But he knew for Lou or e-mail. Yeah.
00:32:42
But then once you know that it that OK, number one, I'm caught.
00:32:46
She don't found me with him, hiding him in the basement.
00:32:50
Now I have to hide her in the tower so she don't ruin what I
00:32:54
have going on. She was gonna be the sacrifice
00:32:57
period 'cause there's there's no walkers around nowhere.
00:33:01
It ain't like you go pluck one from the ocean.
00:33:04
There were no walkers anywhere. They were gonna kill her anyway.
00:33:07
She was already dead. You you might, but.
00:33:09
She walked her ass into that tower.
00:33:11
It was like. This is where.
00:33:14
He at she was dead. You the sacrifice at this point.
00:33:20
And that see that see that whole thing would have been so the way
00:33:26
that that whole thing went down. Remember her Santa sent men from
00:33:32
the nest and Emil to kill Daryl Low say had no idea about this.
00:33:39
So let's say if her Santa didn't do that, if she just sent them
00:33:45
away to kind of keep them away from the ceremony or whatever,
00:33:50
if Emil would have lived and came back to find Sylvie as a
00:33:54
Walker, there would have been some hell to pay.
00:34:00
Yeah. So I I.
00:34:04
I don't know if I want to say that he would have done that as
00:34:08
well 'cause I feel like that might go against Hulo.
00:34:17
Sang was before everything went to shit at the ceremony.
00:34:24
Because I think once the ceremony didn't happen and you
00:34:28
have Daryl and Isabel and Falou, you know, shooting up people,
00:34:34
killing people, trying to get Laurent away from everyone.
00:34:37
I think at this point, Losang is now he's, he's, he's flipped
00:34:41
that switch. He's crossed that line because
00:34:44
now it's about him. That's at least that's the way
00:34:50
it came off to me. Like at first, same with Madam
00:34:53
Janae. It's like at first you have good
00:34:55
intentions when you start doing this.
00:34:58
Oh, I want to bring peace back to France.
00:35:00
I want to bring unity back to France.
00:35:02
I want to whatever that might have been her original goal.
00:35:06
And then as the years go by and I don't know, as as her power
00:35:10
grows, maybe that changes, like she still kind of sort of wants
00:35:14
to do this, but she also wants the power.
00:35:17
She wants to be in charge. She wants to be the one to get
00:35:20
the credit for doing all of this stuff.
00:35:22
I think Lausanne is kind of the same way.
00:35:24
Like he really had this belief in who Laurent was or what
00:35:30
Laurent was supposed to be. And now that everything's is, is
00:35:34
falling apart, it's basically about, no, this is what I have
00:35:38
to do. And I don't know, it just feels
00:35:40
like a paragraph. It feels like a paragraph all
00:35:45
the same way it does whenever you see any type of charismatic
00:35:48
figure with a, with a group of followers, a cult in, in, you
00:35:54
know, no, no better terms. That's that's basically what
00:35:58
this is. They're a cult.
00:36:01
Yep. And the fact that one, these
00:36:05
people like y'all don't see that this boy is drugged.
00:36:10
Y'all cannot tell. Y'all been around this boy for
00:36:12
months now. Y'all can't tell he's been
00:36:15
drugged and y'all are OK with this.
00:36:18
And then the fact that you're bringing this girl out who has
00:36:21
been living amongst y'all that you know is close to him.
00:36:25
Even the people who didn't witness what was going on didn't
00:36:30
witness her fall. Like y'all are OK with nobody's
00:36:33
asking questions. Like how the fuck did Sylvie
00:36:36
become a Walker? Why?
00:36:38
Are y'all they just they because in their meetings they knew that
00:36:42
somebody was going to do a be a sacrifice, so there's probably
00:36:45
assumed that she was the one that they spun the wheel and her
00:36:50
name got called. But I don't.
00:36:53
Again, I don't think that everybody was in the know of
00:36:55
what was going to happen. They they are, but they probably
00:36:59
was a close group. They knew that somebody was
00:37:01
going to be sacrifice and they probably would thought, oh, she
00:37:06
must have volunteered because she's close to him.
00:37:09
I'm telling you what they're believing.
00:37:11
They believe in everything else. They believe in that.
00:37:13
Someone close to him said, I'll be the sacrifice.
00:37:18
I'll be the one to buy them. I give my life for him.
00:37:24
I'm just telling. You to protect him.
00:37:26
Yep. At all?
00:37:27
At all turns. Even though they're not thinking
00:37:31
if they didn't see her fall, they're not thinking that, you
00:37:33
know, she was killed. They were thinking she
00:37:36
volunteered. No, there were some people out
00:37:37
there. So when she said yeah, that's.
00:37:39
That's my they were some I. Don't have word of mouth.
00:37:41
Y'all ain't gossiping, y'all are saying oh let me tell you what
00:37:44
happened. Or they may be scared.
00:37:46
They could be scared. Either way it goes, I'm pissed
00:37:53
'cause now you don't kill two of the characters that I like in
00:37:55
two episodes because you killed Emil.
00:37:58
And that way at least you don't have to know the e-mail turned,
00:38:01
you know, turned traitor. At least she won't find that
00:38:05
out. But still like.
00:38:09
You don't even know the man did but.
00:38:16
Sylvie. Really, really, really.
00:38:22
But I guess they had to they we. Already said.
00:38:25
I know, I know, I know. And they had to make it a
00:38:28
meaningful death because they had to make it mean something.
00:38:31
And if it wasn't Sylvie, it would have been Isabel.
00:38:33
And I just don't see them killing Isabel.
00:38:35
So. But I was so pissed off.
00:38:42
I was so pissed off. But she technically we.
00:38:46
Only got 2 black people in this show and y'all just killed one
00:38:49
of them all. So now I'm going to say y'all
00:38:53
been that fucking touch for Lou. Y'all been that, y'all been.
00:38:56
Leave that old man alone. Leave him alone.
00:38:58
Yeah, I thought the same thing. I was like, nothing happened to
00:39:01
him. Please I.
00:39:02
Just want to say she looks so pretty laying there dead.
00:39:04
Her face was gone. I was like OK my girl magic she
00:39:08
was looking cute eyelashes and I said.
00:39:11
Did you see the? Did you see the, the, the post
00:39:15
the post show thing where she was talking about she was so
00:39:18
excited to play a Walker? They say, you know, usually when
00:39:21
we had the conversations with the actors and actresses about,
00:39:25
you know, killing them off, you know, there's a little bit of
00:39:27
dread. She was so excited.
00:39:29
She was like, I was so happy to put the Walker.
00:39:31
She was like, when I first saw myself, I was just so in awe
00:39:34
because she was like so excited about about being a Walker.
00:39:40
I was like, OK, that's cute, but still got damage.
00:39:42
I don't. Have you died?
00:39:45
You didn't have to kill her. And then now all hell has broken
00:39:48
loose because you, you take Laurent and y'all hide and then
00:39:55
y'all get separated. So it's for Lou and Laurent and
00:39:58
they they leave and go somewhere and Isabel is over here and then
00:40:02
Daryl is over here. I was like, you know what?
00:40:03
Y'all stressing me too much. It's only the second episode of
00:40:06
the season or third, third episode is I was like, y'all
00:40:09
stressing me too much. Y'all are stressing me too much.
00:40:12
And then all these people who keep coming after Daryl.
00:40:15
Have y'all not learned yet? Leave this men.
00:40:18
Do you think it's a 'cause you? Are not trained.
00:40:22
Isabel and Balloon were the only three that came back.
00:40:25
Ain't none of y'all people show up and y'all still steady coming
00:40:29
after him. This boy is picking up sticks
00:40:32
and killing y'all with it. He's picking up just.
00:40:35
That man alone. Losayne ain't going to have no
00:40:39
people in the nest. None.
00:40:42
None except except for the the regular folk and they probably
00:40:47
not they're not about to pick up nothing and and go after Darren.
00:40:51
They're going to be like have you seen do you?
00:40:53
No, because Darryl right now killing all of these people at
00:40:58
the nest. He is not making sure that he's
00:41:00
doing any head shots. So y'all about to do you wanted
00:41:03
some walkers at the nest. Guess what, you about to get
00:41:06
some a. A gang of them he do not care.
00:41:11
I'm sitting here looking at the matter of fact.
00:41:13
I'm looking at this fight scene in the background.
00:41:15
He's using string, he's using sticks, he's using like these
00:41:20
people are coming at him. All are ill prepared.
00:41:25
Please stop playing with this man.
00:41:27
Please, please, please. But now I need you to go look.
00:41:34
I need you to run upstairs, I need you to go get high sensor
00:41:37
and I need you to go get low saying because none of this shit
00:41:41
is going to stop until those two are gone.
00:41:45
That part. And I need you to go save easy
00:41:49
because is a is is trapped. She's hiding.
00:41:53
She can't get out. I was just like y'all stressing
00:41:58
me out. Y'all stressing me out, Y'all
00:42:01
killing folks that don't need to, that don't need to die.
00:42:04
Y'all got all these people coming after Darrell.
00:42:06
Sylvia got this close to biting Laurent.
00:42:09
I was like, are they really going to let her it?
00:42:11
It was kind of like watching. It was like watching, what's her
00:42:20
name? Put the Walker head towards
00:42:22
Finch. Because remember when we watched
00:42:25
on Field The Walking Dead, we didn't think she was going to
00:42:28
let that happen. And she actually did.
00:42:31
I was really looking at this like, Oh my God, Laurent is
00:42:34
about to get bit. I thought we were about to have
00:42:37
a I think. He was going to get bit only
00:42:40
because of the previous actions of what happened last episode.
00:42:44
It had not the last episode, episode episode happened the way
00:42:50
that it did. Yeah, he'd have been bit.
00:42:52
You mean with. Yeah, with them trying to with
00:42:57
the ambush, But because y'all ain't no good at it.
00:43:04
He wasn't. He wasn't gonna get bit.
00:43:07
But it was too, it was a little too close for my comfort.
00:43:11
It was too close 'cause she was right, girl.
00:43:15
Right there was. Right girl.
00:43:17
Right there, but she but he didn't keep beat he survived
00:43:25
because she prayed to protect him at all times but.
00:43:30
Let me tell you when he comes off them drugs.
00:43:34
Girl, they had him high. Because he had no reaction
00:43:39
whatsoever. He just had no reaction to the
00:43:42
shooting. He had no reaction to the
00:43:44
running. He was just kind of like.
00:43:45
And Daryl was like, hey, I need you to take them to the place
00:43:48
where we practice in secret. I need you to take them to The
00:43:51
Cave. And he's just looking at Daryl a
00:43:52
lot. I said, oh, wow.
00:43:55
And again, yeah, y'all folks, they have nothing to say about
00:43:59
the fact that this boy was high. I just.
00:44:02
Oh, I. Blind.
00:44:10
Sheep just and I'm so tired of everybody just drinking whatever
00:44:16
somebody answer them think this no.
00:44:23
I mean, I'm not even. Thirsty no more.
00:44:26
I got to. I'm good.
00:44:30
Right, OK. But I would say this going
00:44:34
coming away from the nest, going back to Carol, trying to find
00:44:38
out the information about Daryl. I can see a Carol and Codrone
00:44:43
team up. I can see that like she got the
00:44:47
information from him and I know he's I know he's kind of down
00:44:51
and out right now. He's missing 2 fingers 'cause
00:44:54
she cut two of his fingers, very uncleanly at that.
00:45:00
But I, you know what? I think he's at a point now,
00:45:04
especially since he is still protecting Darrell.
00:45:08
He's still protecting Laurent, yes.
00:45:12
I think if he can heal up just a little bit, him and Carol, they
00:45:20
can do some damage together. I mean, he'll do damage by
00:45:24
herself. I know, but she's always so much
00:45:27
more fun when she has a partner to help her do some more damage.
00:45:32
It's just fun. And I, I, I just feel like a
00:45:34
drone has the, he has the motivation now he does.
00:45:41
He's been tortured, he's been mutilated.
00:45:44
He has the motivation now. He has no reason to be to be
00:45:49
civil or to be loyal to Madam Janay.
00:45:53
I was speaking to Madam Janay. This is something I just noticed
00:45:56
tonight while it was playing in the background.
00:45:59
So in in the beginning when they're talking about or when
00:46:02
they're showing us her back story at the the Louvre as one
00:46:06
of the janitors, one of her Co workers is trying to organize a
00:46:10
a walkout to demand, you know, better working conditions and
00:46:15
better pay. I just realized it was her, the
00:46:19
woman who's her right hand soldier now.
00:46:22
I can't think of what her name is, but I was like, oh, you was
00:46:25
the one that was leaving things back then and and marrying Janae
00:46:29
was kind of like, no, we don't we don't need to do this.
00:46:32
We don't need to like she was the one that was the one do it.
00:46:35
And now she's the one that's like in charge and the other
00:46:39
woman is taking orders from her. I was like, I want to know that
00:46:43
dynamic. How did that happen that?
00:46:44
Threw me off 'cause I was like wouldn't OK.
00:46:49
Right. I was like, yeah, that threw me
00:46:51
off because she was the one trying to get her in line.
00:46:55
Yes, she was trying to get her what?
00:46:57
Happened that you the second I don't want to be in charge.
00:47:03
The world, the world went to shit and she probably was like,
00:47:07
I don't want to have anything to do with that.
00:47:09
And Janae was probably pissed off because her husband ended up
00:47:13
getting killed because they wouldn't let him in.
00:47:15
Like first of all, y'all locking us in here not telling us what's
00:47:19
going on. So we're seeing everything
00:47:21
through glass windows. We see these people walking
00:47:24
around dead. Y'all haven't told us anything.
00:47:27
My husband is trying to get and I love the fact that she was
00:47:29
like the the guards were like nobody in or out.
00:47:33
She told her husband she was like going over to the other
00:47:35
side. She was going to make sure her
00:47:37
man got filled in. She really was trying.
00:47:40
And then for her to look and see what's coming up behind him and
00:47:44
know that there's absolutely nothing she can do and she has
00:47:49
to sit there and watch him get torn to pieces in front.
00:47:52
Yeah, that would light a fire under my ass, too.
00:47:58
But OK, let's go back to the nest.
00:48:04
Daryl gets captured. I'm just like.
00:48:08
And then Lo Sane tries to have this conversation with him where
00:48:13
he's like Stanley, trying to convince Daryl that this is the
00:48:17
right thing. And that's been that's been what
00:48:18
he's been trying to do since the first episode of Season 2.
00:48:21
Daryl will come around. Daryl will come around.
00:48:24
Dude, you do not know this man. At all.
00:48:28
You don't know you're. Not coming around for shit.
00:48:30
You don't know what he has been through, you don't know what he
00:48:34
has dealt with. You really think he's going to
00:48:38
be OK with you doing this to to this little boy?
00:48:43
And he asked, they don't even ask me.
00:48:44
He was like, So what if you're wrong?
00:48:46
No saying is like if I'm wrong there's no point in going on Doo
00:48:50
Doo Doo. There's no point in going on
00:48:53
then 'cause you wrong. Wrong.
00:48:56
There's two left shoes you wrong, but he don't see that
00:49:01
he's blind in what he believes like he no one could talk sense
00:49:07
to me. Right.
00:49:07
Most fanatics, because even. Yeah, because like, even when he
00:49:11
realized his assistant did what she did, you was like, OK.
00:49:18
Now she sweet talked and she held his hand and she was
00:49:21
rubbing on his hand and she was like, you know, he.
00:49:24
Said. Your prophecy, your prophecy is
00:49:28
what they've been holding on. I was like, oh, OK, y'all about
00:49:31
to make this about he. He's about to have a Jesus
00:49:34
complex. I'm the one that's leading them
00:49:38
to the promised land. I'm the one who And I was like,
00:49:41
yeah, OK, whatever. And now you're trying to
00:49:45
convince Daryl and you. But you can't convince that man.
00:49:51
This man has missed a boat. For this little boy, there's no
00:49:58
convincing him. Yeah, you should have missed my
00:50:01
ride. Home.
00:50:03
You should have just left well alone enough alone when he was
00:50:05
trying to tell you that he was going back home and you sat
00:50:08
there trying to convince him. You know, sometimes when.
00:50:11
Maybe just the place you need to be, right?
00:50:13
Right. You should have just left well
00:50:16
enough alone. But you really thought Daryl
00:50:19
Dixon was about to comply. You thought Daryl Dixon was
00:50:22
about to, like, convert? Really not met this man.
00:50:26
And I mean, even with the way he he talks to Isabel, you know, he
00:50:34
keeps saying that Daryl has influence over Laurent.
00:50:38
And you know, that like, that's the whole issue that they are
00:50:42
having with the little group. Well, what if, what if Daryl
00:50:45
leaves? Daryl's going to leave again.
00:50:47
What if Laurent wants to go with him?
00:50:50
Then Laurent wants to go with him.
00:50:52
But but you know, and let him go.
00:50:55
And y'all like trying to force this little kid to be something
00:50:59
y'all want him to because he's had many conversations with
00:51:03
Daryl. Like what if I'm not what they
00:51:04
think I am? What if this ain't what I'm
00:51:07
supposed to be doing? What what what about this he the
00:51:10
boy is getting insight on? Maybe I wasn't a little too much
00:51:13
faith in me. I'm just a little kid.
00:51:15
I mean, and even Daryl and Isabella's have had has had that
00:51:18
conversation because the first time he said something about
00:51:23
them going back to the states with him, she looked at him like
00:51:26
she she really looked at him all hopeful, like, oh, I could no,
00:51:31
it's it won't work. It won't work.
00:51:33
And he was like, why not? She was like, everything about
00:51:35
Laurent's life has led him to this point.
00:51:38
This is what this is what he was born for.
00:51:41
This was what he was made to do. You know, this is what got us
00:51:44
this far. And Daryl was like, maybe that's
00:51:47
all it was. Maybe it was just supposed to
00:51:49
get you this far. And you see her looking at him
00:51:53
like actually contemplating. And I was like, yeah, you know
00:51:59
what? This is old Isabel trying to
00:52:01
come out. Because we got to remember
00:52:03
Isabel hasn't always been a nun. And there's probably parts of
00:52:09
her. There's probably parts of her
00:52:13
that's doubting all of this that's going on, especially if
00:52:17
you when you before the ceremony, OK.
00:52:21
And before they realized they were being ambushed on purpose,
00:52:24
just her interactions with the rest of them and the
00:52:28
conversation the the few conversations she's had with low
00:52:31
saying you can look at her and see that she was starting not to
00:52:36
buy into it. Yeah.
00:52:39
And just even the little things, they don't want Little Rock
00:52:41
doing anything fun. You know, when he's sitting
00:52:45
there reading, he happens to look off to the side.
00:52:47
But since it's like concentrate excuse me, can I not have a 2
00:52:50
second break? Like I'm a little kid and if
00:52:55
y'all about to sacrifice me what difference do learning on this
00:52:58
shit make? That's my question.
00:53:02
What? But again, we have to remember
00:53:05
they think that he's going to get bit and survive and not only
00:53:09
survive, but they think he's going to survive unscathed.
00:53:13
OK, I don't I don't know what the bite is supposed to do.
00:53:18
Like maybe it's going to enhance his intelligence and that's why
00:53:21
they have him reading Socrates and doing all of this other
00:53:25
stuff. But it's just kind of like
00:53:29
common sense is so common sense is just so far out the window.
00:53:38
And I just. They not getting it.
00:53:42
They really aren't. They so blind and what they
00:53:45
think they believe. Like at the end of the day y'all
00:53:50
sacrificing the little ass kid but y'all don't see that.
00:53:54
Y'all just see oh he's the one to save us what make it make
00:53:59
sense? But you know, sacrifice for that
00:54:02
type of for that type of thing is not exactly non existent.
00:54:09
So I just. No.
00:54:14
What? Come on now.
00:54:17
I just, I hope he stays hidden cause by the end of this
00:54:23
episode, Laurent is missing, Falou is missing.
00:54:26
They've they've gotten away. Daryl is captured.
00:54:34
I Yeah. And they're, they are close to
00:54:42
the area with Carol, so they're about to run into each other.
00:54:47
So we're we were thinking what Episode 4?
00:54:51
Episode 4. So yeah, I think, I think you
00:54:54
might be right. Because we know one thing,
00:54:58
They're not about to kill Carol. They're about to piss her off.
00:55:04
Right. That's what I really thought.
00:55:05
I knew she wasn't going. I mean, I don't know, but
00:55:08
clearly the book of Carol, she's not going to die the next
00:55:12
episode. I don't know how she's going to
00:55:13
get out of this. However, I wasn't scared.
00:55:19
I was more of you should be mad because she just threw you out
00:55:21
there. And she's going to, quote UN
00:55:25
quote, try to turn you so that you can go kill your friend.
00:55:30
Yeah, yeah. And.
00:55:33
She don't realize what she did. She really don't.
00:55:36
No, she. Really don't and I understand.
00:55:39
I'm scared right now. She's.
00:55:41
Scared when Carol make it out of this.
00:55:43
She gonna fuck you up. I know if it is definitely when
00:55:49
when. When she make it out of this she
00:55:51
gonna fuck you up but. But what did we say with the
00:55:53
first episode? We said if if Carol lands her 2
00:55:56
feet in France, Madam Janae's time is going to be real.
00:56:01
Short. Yeah, we said that.
00:56:03
We said it. It's going to be real short.
00:56:07
We said it. Because Carol's like, first of
00:56:12
all, you're not gonna sit here and threaten my friend.
00:56:17
That part. Yeah, and then now I feel.
00:56:23
I'm gonna give you whatever chameleon face I need to give to
00:56:26
you, but at the end of the day, baby, what you not about to do
00:56:29
right? That that that's, that's what.
00:56:31
That is what you're not about to do.
00:56:33
Right. OK, so here's the other thing.
00:56:39
I think Michelle was right because not only is Daryl
00:56:44
captured, Isabel is captured. And what does Isabel do at the
00:56:49
end of this episode? Oh God.
00:56:52
She proclaims her love for Daryl.
00:56:56
I was like, yeah, she gonna die. She gonna die.
00:56:59
I mean, she does need to. And it just be.
00:57:02
Laurent and Daryl and Carol getting on the plane in two
00:57:07
years. It's not going to be no two
00:57:10
years, I don't think it's. Going to be two years.
00:57:12
It's not. We don't.
00:57:13
We're going to have a season 3 in Madrid.
00:57:19
OK, so they go. OK, so guess what, I guess they
00:57:21
get in the plane and they crash. And now we all stuck in, in, in,
00:57:27
in, in, in Europe. For real.
00:57:29
Yeah, I can see that. You see what I'm saying?
00:57:33
Because look how long it already took Ash to put fine parts and
00:57:37
whatever whatever to get the plane he got to work.
00:57:40
Right. If they crashed, bad, bad, They
00:57:43
stuck in France, they stuck in Europe.
00:57:45
Yeah, but the other thing about Isabel being captured?
00:57:49
OK, going back to Losang now, you have officially entered
00:57:55
villain territory because you are sitting here beating and
00:58:00
torturing Isabel trying to find out where Laurent is.
00:58:03
You are officially a villain. You officially have to die.
00:58:08
But you know what? I I would kind of expect it with
00:58:10
Darryl because one, Darryl's a man, they don't have any qualms
00:58:14
about beating him up. Two, Darryl in Los Angeles eyes
00:58:19
is the reason all of this is going to shit right now.
00:58:23
So he's got a little bit extra anger to to to, you know, to
00:58:28
work out. Isabel, on the other hand, like
00:58:34
there there is no excuse for that not be nothing, none,
00:58:41
right. And you call yourself a man of
00:58:43
God, like you got what I mean, Like, why don't you do it?
00:58:48
Look, why don't you do what Sylvie did?
00:58:51
Pray for Laurent to show up to you.
00:58:53
I mean, if you're a righteous man, it'll work right?
00:58:57
That. Part it should, but he we
00:59:00
already know he not. No righteous man I know at all.
00:59:05
I know. Nothing about this man
00:59:07
righteous. So, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm very
00:59:09
pissed off now 'cause you got Sylvie, Dad.
00:59:12
And, and The thing is, they can't, they don't even have time
00:59:18
to grieve. Isabella, Laurent, they don't
00:59:21
have time to grieve. Like Isabel has known Sylvie
00:59:25
since she was a young girl, but Laurent has known Sylvie his
00:59:28
entire life. His entire life.
00:59:35
He can't even grieve. He probably can't even process
00:59:37
it right now because one, he's high.
00:59:39
He's still high. Even in The Cave with Falou, you
00:59:43
can tell he's still not all there.
00:59:50
You're torturing the nun, you're torturing the American.
00:59:55
And then Izzy got me worried because she does.
00:59:58
She does. Sat over here and pulled the
01:00:02
little drain grate out and it's sharp and rusty and I'm like,
01:00:07
what is she about to do? Because we know that she she has
01:00:10
a history of trying to kill herself before she slit her
01:00:13
wrist before. And I'm sitting.
01:00:15
Here, wondering her love, she's not about to kill.
01:00:18
Herself. I hope so, because I was like, I
01:00:20
hope that she's not going to do that in order to try to save
01:00:23
Laurent. No, that's not how that goes.
01:00:28
She going to use it as a weapon. They come back in now I'm about
01:00:32
to ninja they ass. That's what she going to do.
01:00:39
Yeah, but this whole little conversation between her and
01:00:41
Daryl, when they're talking about what they're going to do
01:00:44
when they get out of there, Daryl's talking about taking
01:00:47
walks on the beach and stuff. I was like, yeah, is she going
01:00:49
to die? That's hope.
01:00:52
What is it that Anthony? What is it?
01:00:55
Anthony always says hope is where dreams go to die.
01:00:58
Yes, hope is where dreams go to die.
01:01:01
Yeah. Hope is the dream killer.
01:01:03
Hope is the dream. Yep, Yep.
01:01:06
So I'm, I'm kind of worried now, especially since she has told
01:01:10
him she loves him. Notice he did not say it back to
01:01:13
her, though. But I was like, he wouldn't.
01:01:16
I mean, it don't even seem how you this just seems too soon.
01:01:21
Y'all are forcing this. I'm mad.
01:01:23
I'm done. We we have to think about it.
01:01:25
This has been like at least six months, the timeline as far as
01:01:30
Daryl being in France. Yeah, I I understand that.
01:01:35
So this is rushed. I think it's rushed it I, I
01:01:39
still don't, I still don't buy into it.
01:01:42
But I mean, I, I've known people who are falling in love in less
01:01:46
time than that. So I, I agree.
01:01:49
I, I totally agree. I'm saying for them it's rushed.
01:01:53
And unbelievable. Yeah.
01:01:55
And the thing about it is, no, it's not.
01:01:57
I mean, honestly, yeah. It's not hard to fall in love
01:02:00
with Darrell. And you got to think her last
01:02:01
relationship was shitty. Yeah.
01:02:06
So, yeah, that part. And, you know, Daryl's a good
01:02:11
guy, so I I totally get it. But.
01:02:14
She's a good person. Like I don't have a problem with
01:02:17
Isabel as a person. I just the that relationship
01:02:21
just I, I don't, I don't feel it for for us.
01:02:26
I think it. Don't feel it does.
01:02:28
Feel it does feel too soon because we've had years of build
01:02:32
up with the other two potentials.
01:02:34
Hello. If you're talking about Carol,
01:02:36
if you're talking about Connie, we've had years of build up.
01:02:40
So it does feel too soon in in that sense.
01:02:44
But I mean, if you're talking like time wise, the story, the
01:02:47
story, time wise, it's not. But I I just still don't.
01:02:54
That's not even to say they went through more than he went
01:02:57
through with somebody else. So, you know, you understand
01:02:59
what I'm saying. For me, I believe it's his
01:03:01
connection to Laurent that possibly have them connected.
01:03:06
Yeah. Even still, I don't even see it
01:03:09
in that way. You, you know what I mean.
01:03:12
To me, I'm sorry. It's just more of a connection
01:03:15
between him and Laurent than I see between him and Isabel.
01:03:18
Yeah. Yeah.
01:03:20
But going back to who? Who?
01:03:21
Laurent went to. Laurent walked the countryside
01:03:25
to make sure there didn't leave. What?
01:03:26
What the fuck was his? He asked.
01:03:29
Back into goddamn list. Probably looking for Laurent.
01:03:35
Looking for Laurent. But Laurent was like, what?
01:03:39
What Jennifer Hudson saying, no, I'm not going.
01:03:41
She wasn't going. He's like, wherever you go, I
01:03:45
go, Boo. We we together in this.
01:03:47
Right, but what was it? Who?
01:03:53
Who was it that said something about Madam Janae got all her
01:03:56
people on the outskirts and ain't nobody gotten that one
01:03:59
guard have have we not had conversations about the shitty
01:04:03
security situations in various points of The Walking Dead?
01:04:07
But you got to admit, I mean, you got to remember, Daryl
01:04:10
probably killed most of the guards and the ones that are
01:04:14
left are the ones that are guarding him and Isabel now.
01:04:16
All them people dead, but well, you know what I was going to
01:04:24
say. So I guess they did go around
01:04:26
and make sure that they double tapped because you don't see any
01:04:29
walkers walking around. So, but yeah, y'all, y'all
01:04:36
should have somebody on watch. Somebody should have came in and
01:04:40
told those saying, hey, there's some lights over in the distance
01:04:45
like some trucks. Because even if you don't have
01:04:48
binoculars, even if you don't have a scope to see that far
01:04:51
out, it got the lights on. And it was bright.
01:04:57
Bright like y'all got some good LED lights on there when?
01:05:02
Yeah. But no, these are bright fire
01:05:07
lights. Like one one small little squint
01:05:11
with a guy. Is that a small squint?
01:05:17
They ain't do that. And all of these people sitting
01:05:19
here, Madam Janay is giving their speech, talking about you
01:05:23
guys will be remembered as heroes.
01:05:27
I'm gonna be why? Why people gonna Remember Me
01:05:30
like. Right.
01:05:32
I'm here now. Right and and, and your people
01:05:36
over here like why are they messing around with guns?
01:05:38
What what's going on huh and then the minute that they that
01:05:44
the guards grabbed Carol and put her over with y'all, y'all
01:05:49
should have known something was wrong.
01:05:51
Carol was fighting. She was not trying to be
01:05:53
standing over here with y'all. You and y'all just still sitting
01:05:57
here looking. I'm running because.
01:05:59
You're going to catch me, girl. I don't know how far I would
01:06:02
have got. You're going to get to me.
01:06:04
Right, but y'all again look sheep of a different kind.
01:06:11
Oh, we going to do what Madam Janae tells us, because she gave
01:06:14
us warm food and a bed and some wine and some.
01:06:20
Slop. I mean, I, I don't know.
01:06:27
That's all it takes. Just know in the zombie
01:06:31
apocalypse I offended for myself.
01:06:33
I don't want to help you. I don't need no help.
01:06:35
Leave me. Alone.
01:06:37
Not like that. Not if I got to sacrifice
01:06:39
myself. Would be a an an experiment.
01:06:42
Now, if you want me to, no. They didn't know they were being
01:06:45
sacrificed. It wasn't till they put up the
01:06:47
gun that's. All ain't paying attention to
01:06:51
the words that are coming out of their mouth.
01:06:53
It wasn't at all. It's you.
01:06:56
Will be remembered as heroes. Why people remembering me?
01:07:00
I'm not here. I'm not here right now, right?
01:07:05
Why y'all remembering me like y'all ain't paying attention to
01:07:08
none of this stuff, to the woman that that was riding in the car
01:07:14
with her that she just had her guards dragged over to be with
01:07:18
y'all. Y'all just still sitting there
01:07:19
looking like oh she's going to join us what are we doing?
01:07:24
What's going if y'all don't get some common sense about
01:07:30
yourself, but it I mean, it's too late.
01:07:32
It's too late. At that point, already there at
01:07:35
that point. Y'all abouts to die.
01:07:38
Y'all abouts to die. Maybe not Carol, but y'all
01:07:41
abouts to die. Maybe not Carol.
01:07:44
I mean, because they got her standing next to the big guy
01:07:47
that was on the that, you know, had to get on his music, right?
01:07:50
Carol is little. She probably going to hide
01:07:53
behind him and use him as a shield.
01:07:56
Now how how well that's going to work I don't know.
01:08:00
Good luck but y'all ain't gonna kill my girl off.
01:08:06
Not what is called the Book of Carol.
01:08:07
No, what? What was about to happen?
01:08:11
Is Madam Janae about to piss her the fuck off and that's when the
01:08:17
fight started. OK.
01:08:20
That's that's what it's about to be.
01:08:24
She about to fight. Is she gonna find her bestie?
01:08:29
And I don't know what they gonna do.
01:08:31
They they gonna have to do some stuff to get out of there,
01:08:34
'cause you 'cause now you got 'cause you got enemy on both
01:08:37
sides. Yeah.
01:08:39
You got enemies inside the nest and then you got enemies outside
01:08:42
the nest. Y'all about to do some fighting.
01:08:47
They might not survive, Carolyn Darren gonna survive like you
01:08:53
said, but I and. See, if nothing else, Darryl
01:08:56
know the back way out. Do you know the way they snuck
01:08:59
in? You know that way to get out so
01:09:02
they'll get out. They ain't got to go through the
01:09:04
front door to get out. But you got you got to do a lot
01:09:08
of fighting. And right now none of them have
01:09:10
weapons except for Izzy. It's a is a.
01:09:15
She's the only one that's got a weapon right now.
01:09:18
True. So I I mean, I don't know.
01:09:22
They don't have to happen where they are.
01:09:26
Something will happen that they receive weapons.
01:09:28
Like, I don't just see them like, you know what I mean?
01:09:32
Yeah, 'cause yeah, I, I don't, I don't see it.
01:09:41
Yeah. It's some shit.
01:09:42
Back. Yeah, they will.
01:09:43
They will have to. Yeah, that'll be hard.
01:09:47
'Cause at first we got to figure out how we getting Carol into
01:09:49
the building. Right, because once it OK, she
01:09:53
was standing by the big guy, but then even if she can hide, they
01:10:01
will turn and then she will have to get away from them before
01:10:03
they turn and start trying to get to her.
01:10:06
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
01:10:07
So that has to without them Trump and then right.
01:10:12
And then yeah. And then others like wait a
01:10:15
minute, she didn't even turn. Let's kill her while she run
01:10:18
into the next building. So like that has to be a lot in
01:10:21
itself. We're.
01:10:21
Going to be stressed the next episode.
01:10:24
I mean, we know when we know she's not going to die, but
01:10:28
they're probably going to make it very close.
01:10:31
Yeah. So yeah they bout to stress us
01:10:36
the fuck out. And didn't Losane take Isabel
01:10:42
after at the end of the episode he took her back for more
01:10:45
questioning or something? No, I think it it ended with
01:10:51
Carol, but I don't remember that part.
01:10:53
Hold on, let. Me.
01:10:54
Look, I'm looking to Are they holding hands against the wall?
01:10:59
Get y'all ass out of here. Oh yeah, I think they.
01:11:06
Took her. Yeah.
01:11:06
They came and got her. Yep.
01:11:08
They came and got her. And he was like, I'll tell you
01:11:10
where he had no boy hit him in the face with the butt of the
01:11:12
gun. Yeah.
01:11:16
So yeah. And he was trying to take up for
01:11:19
her. For her.
01:11:21
Yeah, he was like, I'll tell you where he is.
01:11:24
And what did he say? Isabel has always been full of
01:11:27
full of faith and and purpose. You, sadly, are beyond hope or
01:11:33
beyond help. That's OK.
01:11:38
You just lit a fire up under Daryl's ass too.
01:11:42
Because regardless of how he feels about her, regardless of
01:11:46
how he feels about her. OK, I'm I'm gonna admit he cares
01:11:49
about her. He may even love her.
01:11:52
He may even love her. But here's the thing.
01:11:55
She has admitted that she loves him.
01:11:59
Daryl Finna go whoop your ass. That's not that doesn't happen
01:12:04
to him. Daryl is about to find some way
01:12:07
to get free. He's gonna whoop your ass so you
01:12:11
don't pissed off both Daryl and Carol on on two different
01:12:15
spectrums. But for both villains, 'cause at
01:12:19
this point, Losang is a villain, he.
01:12:21
Is but both villains. So here's the thing, Daryl needs
01:12:25
to kill Losang and we already said Carol was going to be the
01:12:28
one to kill Madam Janae because we were like, Carol's coming to
01:12:31
France. Oh, it's a wrap 'cause
01:12:34
everywhere she has been since she stepped foot on Season 2,
01:12:37
episode one has fallen within 24 hours.
01:12:41
She bought the fuck Madam Janae up.
01:12:45
Oh yeah, 'cause she's. Been about to happen.
01:12:46
She's gonna be mad. I'm here for it.
01:12:52
I'm ready, mad. I am ready.
01:12:58
But it's so crazy 'cause we already halfway through the
01:13:00
season. What?
01:13:01
Yeah. Yeah, that's great.
01:13:03
So whatever gonna happen, better happen quick.
01:13:07
And if we don't get this damn reunion, we we, we like this
01:13:10
close to a damn reunion. It's gonna happen in the next
01:13:12
episode. I'm calling it because they're
01:13:15
all. At this point.
01:13:17
Yeah, and it's going to be towards, it will be towards the
01:13:20
end. It ain't going to be in the
01:13:21
beginning because they got to get out of the situation they're
01:13:24
in. So they're going to be in the
01:13:24
end and they're going to be a cliffhanger to to the next 5.
01:13:28
Yep. I don't.
01:13:33
Want a cliffhanger? Saying.
01:13:36
They haven't been leaving, no cliffhanger, so I don't think.
01:13:39
Well, I don't. I call it cliffhanger because we
01:13:40
were like, OK, they got to talk to each other like how you get
01:13:43
here, how you get here and who came back and yeah.
01:13:48
Yeah, all of the we need and we, we.
01:13:50
Yeah. How's Judith and RJ?
01:13:52
Yeah, like everything. All those things.
01:13:55
Because you, yo, they're. Not going to have that.
01:13:58
I don't think they're going to have those conversations right
01:14:00
off because right now they're fighting for their lives.
01:14:03
Right, that's what I said. I I need that conversation which
01:14:06
will happen later. That might be in episode 5, but
01:14:08
right? That's.
01:14:09
What I was they need to get out of these situations and they got
01:14:12
some killing to do 'cause I'm telling you, love saying needs
01:14:17
to die, Janae needs to die. And then we need to figure out,
01:14:22
I mean cause Laurent and Falou left, we need to figure out
01:14:26
where the fuck they going 'cause they were told y'all to go to
01:14:29
The Cave. Yes, when he helped them escape.
01:14:31
And Elizabeth. Elizabeth, Izzy had to go hide
01:14:34
in the little under stair thingy.
01:14:37
Yeah, So that's how Daryl got caught.
01:14:41
He had people on both sides of him.
01:14:43
You say you're not getting out of this, Sir, You killed a lot
01:14:45
of people. Butter Roma.
01:14:48
Well, you know what? Y'all shouldn't have sent them
01:14:49
people after him, because y'all know they were going to die.
01:14:52
Y'all know they were going to die, they got back to the nest,
01:14:57
they snuck in, they were in the middle of your fucking ceremony
01:15:00
crowd and y'all didn't. Really think.
01:15:05
Y'all didn't have nobody to warn you because all your peoples is
01:15:09
dead dead. Dead, dead.
01:15:11
And that's the thing, y'all don't have like no early warning
01:15:15
system. No, y'all got the greatest
01:15:19
fortress there is and y'all just we're not going to watch out.
01:15:25
Nothing we know. Because you would think even if
01:15:30
you only have one person at the very top, you can see all four
01:15:32
sides. Somebody call off something and
01:15:35
the water ain't always going to be the thing to save you.
01:15:38
Right. And that's the other thing,
01:15:39
because I think we talked about this at the IT, it was even the
01:15:42
end of last season or the beginning of this season, all of
01:15:46
these gears and nobody in France decided to say, Hey, let's go
01:15:51
check out the maze. I mean those Mount Saint
01:15:53
Michelle and see with, with that, like nobody has tried to
01:15:58
come there at all in the 12:13, 14/15/60.
01:16:03
We all keep saying that until we know exactly what the what the
01:16:06
time frame is. No one has tried to come and
01:16:09
infiltrate. No one has even curiously said,
01:16:13
hey, let's go see what the condition is over there.
01:16:16
I mean, it's almost like it's his own city.
01:16:19
You would think somebody would have been like, I mean, I think
01:16:22
we talked about this, 'cause I, I said that would have been the
01:16:24
perfect, that would have been like a perfect place for Padre.
01:16:29
You got walls, you have the the water that can surround you and
01:16:35
that can help keep you safe. You've got good vantage points.
01:16:40
Nobody has tried to come and take this place from y'all.
01:16:43
Nobody or not even take this place from y'all.
01:16:46
Nobody has even come to visit to say, hey, what's going on over
01:16:50
here? Do you guys have shelter?
01:16:52
I mean, I'm sure that's probably how they got some of the people.
01:16:55
But most of those people are there because of the rumors that
01:16:58
they've heard about Laurent and, and be becoming a part of this
01:17:02
cult. So it's very surprising to me
01:17:09
that y'all don't have any kind of security because how did
01:17:16
Darrell and Izzy and Falou get there?
01:17:19
And granted, again, most of those people probably don't even
01:17:22
know that Darrell Falou and Isabel were supposed to be taken
01:17:26
care of, or at least Daryl was supposed.
01:17:29
They don't know. They just know, Oh, Isabel,
01:17:31
that's Laurent stunt. That's probably why they didn't
01:17:34
pay attention in the ceremony because they're like, oh, is
01:17:37
this Aunt she? But she's a believer too.
01:17:40
She's here to see what's going on.
01:17:44
But I'm just I'm I'm, I'm ready for Carol to let loose.
01:17:50
I'm like, I just want to dance. I'm I'm ready for it.
01:17:54
I'm ready for Carol to let loose.
01:17:57
I'm ready for Daryl to get out from, you know, his situation.
01:18:02
I need Losane to get his ass beat.
01:18:04
I need Janae to get there, her ass beat.
01:18:08
I'm ready. That's going to be a good fight.
01:18:12
It is both of them. Remember Losane talking about he
01:18:17
want to fight Daryl with his toothpick.
01:18:19
Daryl's like not with that toothpick.
01:18:21
So that'll be a good fight and then well we never seen Janae
01:18:26
fight. She always uses other people.
01:18:28
I don't think she could fight. She don't get her ass whooped.
01:18:32
I don't know. I'm leaning towards Casey.
01:18:36
I don't think she can't. You don't think?
01:18:38
She could fight. No.
01:18:40
So how gravelly she was when she was in the real world.
01:18:43
She and she and she uses other people to maintain her power.
01:18:47
She ain't doing nothing unless you got a Corkscrew like I mean.
01:18:53
Well, she didn't even do that so well.
01:18:56
There you go. OK, I OK, I I'll make it
01:19:00
unanimous. I, I'll, I'll fall on that.
01:19:03
That she didn't, she don't know what she doing.
01:19:06
She don't know how to fight. But Darrell is saying that's
01:19:09
going to be a good fight. That's going to be a really good
01:19:11
fight until Darrell pick up his little and flank his ass in the
01:19:16
head and then if I don't? That was the one thing last
01:19:22
episode I was like, Carol, why did you leave the crossbow with
01:19:27
Ash? You should have brought the
01:19:29
crossbow with you, that part. But then again, you have to
01:19:34
remember it's bulky and it's big.
01:19:36
And I know I was just about to say that, but.
01:19:39
Look, now that's the reunion I want to see.
01:19:41
That's what Darrell. And Darrell, that's the reunion
01:19:45
we like. Been waiting.
01:19:47
The love my crossbow. My crossbow.
01:19:54
They need soft, somber music. I know 'cause they are, they are
01:19:59
killing me with the music on these, on these little romance
01:20:02
parts they are killing me with. Yeah, that was, I was like
01:20:05
y'all, y'all taking it over the top.
01:20:07
Like we already uncomfortable. Just stop.
01:20:12
It's OK. Y'all have any final thoughts
01:20:16
about this episode? I love you.
01:20:25
What 'cause it was how? How is your response to I love
01:20:30
you? No response.
01:20:31
Is Daryl? Do you really?
01:20:34
Do you really he? Was gonna say Ditto.
01:20:36
Or something like that, 'cause even when I, I don't even think
01:20:39
he said I love you to like Carol, like when she's because
01:20:43
they've all said I love you at at some.
01:20:46
Point He hasn't said I love you period.
01:20:49
To to nobody. To no one.
01:20:51
So no, maybe to Rick. But no, I would say maybe to the
01:20:57
kids because, you know, kids will say I love you and he will
01:21:00
probably say it back to them. Yeah, Probably.
01:21:03
Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I, I think, I think
01:21:08
Isabel, especially with the way lows, because lowsane came back
01:21:12
and got hurt after, you know, they had already tortured her
01:21:17
and brought her to the brought her to the showers and then they
01:21:24
took her back. So I have a feeling he he may
01:21:29
accidentally torture her to death.
01:21:30
Torture. Who?
01:21:32
Isabel Yeah, we'll see. We can only hope.
01:21:38
I don't want her to die. I'm just joking.
01:21:41
I'm just joking. He took her little, her little
01:21:44
great thingy. Yeah.
01:21:46
I don't want her to die. You know, I really don't care if
01:21:48
she dies or lives, but I think it's a better story if she dies.
01:21:54
Unfortunately, you might be right.
01:21:56
Yeah, I mean, and the sad part is I don't want Laurent to die.
01:22:01
I really don't have any feelings for Isabel.
01:22:03
I really don't. I think she served their
01:22:06
purpose. She had hope.
01:22:09
Yeah, and she served their purpose.
01:22:10
Like she took care of her sister's child, her nephew.
01:22:14
And I don't, I really don't have any.
01:22:16
And. Got him.
01:22:17
To the point where? And she got her life back on
01:22:20
track. You see what I'm saying?
01:22:21
So like I feel like she's fulfilled her purpose in life
01:22:24
and she good. And she got to the point where
01:22:27
there's someone else who can care for him.
01:22:29
Yeah, if something does. And she felt, she felt love,
01:22:33
love again, like she loved her sister and stuff.
01:22:35
And hope, yeah, love and hope. So yeah, she's good.
01:22:39
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01:22:45
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