#daryldixon #thewalkingdead #TWD As Daryl and Laurent travel towards The Nest, Isabelle makes good on her promise by going back to Quinn. As they face difficulties on the journey, Daryl remembers the chain of events that led to him being in France. Isabelle plans her escape, but receives a sign. Quinn and Isabelle meet with Madame Genet, who has a terrible surprise for them. Daryl faces an opponent, the likes of which he's never seen.
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What's up, hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast. This is Hanukkah and I'm here
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with Casey and we are discussing Daryl Dixon Season 1, Episode 5.
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This is the penultimate Episode 4 Season 1, and unfortunately,
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we won't hear Michelle's thoughts because she's been the
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one this time, traipsing all over the place.
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But no, seriously, she just got back.
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She and Anthony just got back from Cruise.
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They were celebrating Anthony's 50th birthday a little bit
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early. So we're going to let her rest,
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and I'm sure she's going to have plenty to say when we get ready
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to discuss the season finale. So let's talk about this episode
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because this is the episode where we finally, finally find
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out how the hell Daryl got to France.
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And let me tell you, I think one of the things we have been
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talking about with Daryl is how he keeps trying to help other
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people instead of taking his ass home.
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And that's exactly how he got in this position.
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Exactly. Which, OK, I'm not going to say
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that I blame him. I'm not going to say he was
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wrong. He was trying to help somebody
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who was clearly out of their league, not really able to fend
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for themselves well on their own.
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But there were you in that temper?
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I guess, look, I guess in a way that could be the reason why
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he's not doing so much over in France, 'cause he's like, look,
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last time I lost my temper I ended up on a boat.
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Or the last time I lost my temper, I got one of my best
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friends killed. How about there?
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You know what? We're not going to talk about
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that. That was so far.
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That was how long ago? It shows a pattern.
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It shows a pattern. When?
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We're not gonna, does it not. We're not gonna.
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Do does it show a pattern? Yes it does.
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Darrell need to mind his self and and for that matter, because
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my whole thought was we've known since season.
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When did Alexandria get introduced Season 3?
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That was four, I think 4. OK, so if at least since season
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4 of the original Walking Dead series, we've known that Darrell
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has a a liking to people, he may not always be like inviting.
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Yeah, he may not be very inviting, but Aaron saw
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something in him that says you would be good with people.
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So in knowing this about yourself and you see that these
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older men are heckling this young boy and then now they're
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trying to make him a little little Gopher.
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Go get our little wood. Chop wood for us and we'll let
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you come out. You attempted to help him by
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showing him how to chop the wood, but you wouldn't take it.
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That next step to your eye. Come under my wing low key.
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Well, you know where I kind of sort of understand that mindset
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because Daryl's whole purpose at that point was I'm I'm just
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trying to get my fuel and go back home.
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And if you if you pick up, I don't want to say it like this,
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but it kind of if you pick up a stray on the road, it makes it
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that much harder to get rid of them to in order to do what you
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need to do. You know what I'm saying?
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I think Darrell was not looking for any external attachment.
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Seems like, look, I'm just trying to get home.
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And if you and think about it, you know, if he took this boy
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under his wing, like, OK, yes, I'm going to let you help.
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First of all, that boy could have gotten Darrell killed
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because on that first day when he was talking about, you know,
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when they were sending them out to go find the walkers and stuff
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and dude was like, yeah, you know, I had some walkers turned
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around and pick up something and they got away.
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Maybe, you know, maybe I can tag along with you and help you.
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No, because you're you would be the person to get Daryl killed
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on some stupid shit because Daryl would be too busy trying
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to save you. So no one that's not going to
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work 2 if Daryl takes this dude under his wing.
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This girl has already said I got a girlfriend whose father
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doesn't let her out. I told her I would take her
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away. So now you got dude, he's going
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to want he's going to want to go get his girlfriend and then
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girlfriends Pops might be like, hold up, y'all ain't going
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anywhere. And then you know, Daryl and
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Pop's going no, that's too much. Get him in the game and let him
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go home. No, he could have helped him to
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a point. He could have been like, well,
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because all the boy was trying to do was get fuel.
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That's all he wanted was some fuel.
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I don't live that far. I just need gas for the car that
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I'm, you know, for us to get far away.
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He could have helped him to the point for that boy to get his
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gas. And look, I hope you get the
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gas. But after that, you know I'm
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done. That boy was trying to get gas
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to go to California. We already know they wouldn't
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have made it to California. We already come on, we know he
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wouldn't have made this out point, but you would have got
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enough gas to get away from the situation that you were in.
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Right. So you you would have left where
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you worked into a better situation hopefully.
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But Darrell, in my opinion there should have just helped the boy
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and then and then the the punch means because you feel bad
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because you didn't help him and look what the fuck happened.
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That's where that punch came from.
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He mad at himself. So don't get mad at them 'cause
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you you saw the the signs before when they was being shitty to
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this little man. 'Cause they were acting like the
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Chryslers they were. Asking my child not to intervene
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but now why you getting pissed off punching somebody in the
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face when you ain't do what you were supposed to do to try to
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help? So don't.
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Don't be mad now. Well, never guys.
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And we see how it worked out for him.
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Yeah, end up on a fucking boat. Ends up on a boat where they're
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obviously doing some Walker experimentation.
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So and and again, because we've seen a little bit of it in
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earlier episodes, we know that that boat was controlled by
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Madam Janay. So we know that she's already
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doing experiments on walkers there in France, and we see a
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little bit more of that in this episode.
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So yeah, it's just kind of like Daryl finds ways to get into
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situations that you just like. How?
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But again, the whole premise of them having Darrell in France,
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everybody wondered how in the world did this happen?
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How in the world did this happen?
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The way that they did explain it, it makes perfect sense,
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especially if you know, if you have someone coming from France
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looking for people who pretty much he's looking for people who
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aren't going to be missed, You know what I'm saying?
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You know, if you have people who are coming all the way from
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France to get these people and you could tell that French guy
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was already shady the way that he was kind of looking like OK,
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they have like these certain restrictions, like they can't be
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shorter than such and such. We don't take children and
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block. So it's kind of like at first I
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thought, why are y'all trying to take live people?
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And then you realize, no, they want walkers that fit these, you
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know, that fit these requirements.
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And it's kind of like what y'all doing and why y'all coming all
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the way to the States because y'all are looking for people who
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aren't going to be missed. And obviously we've seen a
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friend ain't too many people. That's what I was going to say,
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'cause we see friends don't have remember it was a, a, a deserted
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one. Darrell got there.
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Like we don't even see hordes in France.
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We don't think we've seen that one horde so.
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Maybe they took all they can for the experiment 'cause if that's
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the you, you go, you go. Use up with your the easiest
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first. So that could explain why there
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is no no no walkers anywhere, right?
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Especially especially outside. We know they inside inside
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shops. And shit, yeah, right.
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But especially if, I mean, Quinn literally places a time frame on
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it in this episode when he's talking to Izzy about the
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jewelry he got her. He said.
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I didn't think I'd have to wait 12 years to give it to you.
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So it's been 12 years since he last saw her, which means
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Laurent is only 11 and some change.
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But we'll come back to that. We'll come back to that.
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But we do have at least a time frame.
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So, yeah, in 12 years, they could have gone all over the
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countryside and picked up walkers or even picked up people
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to experiment on because they could have used live people to
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say, hey, let's see what it is that causes it.
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And then try to do whatever they needed to do with the walkers to
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try to cure or whatever it is they try to do, make weapons,
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whatever. But they're coming to the States
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because, OK, we're going to take people who aren't going to be
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missed. And you got people in this type
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of environment where, yeah, they're they're requiring people
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to go do certain things for them.
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And if they mess up, it's like, OK, you get one chance.
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You mess up, you don't follow our rules.
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That's it for you. I don't banish them.
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Y'all sent him on a. Fucking boat.
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I didn't take it that way. I didn't take it that they were
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looking OK. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what
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you were saying because I wasn't taking it as I thought.
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We like when he met Darrell on the road and he gave him the
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rules for their commute, their, you know, settlement.
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I wasn't taking it as when we kick you out, we put you on a
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boat. I thought you just have to leave
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from where we are. Because my thought was when he
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was putting Darrell out, if I was driving and took my bike,
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took my, you know, my ball, my crossbow, All right, I got to
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go. No, I think if if Darrell had
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done what he what he was supposed to do, you know,
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collect the walkers in order to earn the gas, got the gas and
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went on, he would have been fine.
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But it was because he punched that guy.
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And the number one rule is no fighting.
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Right, but and that just said he that he said that gets you out
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of here. I didn't think out of here meant
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on a boat to France. I thought out of here, me, you
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know, I just gotta kick you out of my community.
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Well, you know what? I mean that that was my
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perception of it, I thought. So too, but apparently that
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wasn't the case 'cause. When he put him on the bottom
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like. Right now how you you gonna send
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him home in this? Like how much gas do y'all like
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First of all, making all this gas.
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That is a full ship. That's not like the little thing
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that Rick was on. That's a full ship going from
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Maine to France. Well, I mean, it didn't make it
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to France, but that's because, you know.
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Yeah. But.
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That was the intention of it, yes.
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And obviously that wasn't the first time that they had come
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there because they had a report, they had a routine.
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But we also know that the Croat figured out how to make gas.
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That's true. So he did.
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Say that he couldn't be the only person.
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Right, he ain't the only one who figured out how to make gas
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'cause there's nothing even in the ones that live.
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Yeah. Every everybody's car had gas,
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so they figured out a way. Like, even if the Crowat wasn't
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the one to tell P, you know he ain't the only smart person left
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in the apocalypse. Right.
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We hope not. Anyway, 'cause who?
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But at least, you know, people are figuring out like you say we
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12 years into the apocalypse, people are figuring out 'cause I
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was saying the same thing when when brought Isabel breakfast
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and she, he was like, oh, you know, she can bake you up
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whatever you want. And I'm like, yeah, it's been 12
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years. People know how to, you know,
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make the necessities that we need in order to survive.
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So if you're on a on a uptick of figuring out what we lost and
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now how to regain and redo so that we are no longer in the
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place that we were when we initially started.
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Right. But also, we got to think about
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Quinn. You know, we talked about this,
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and I think it was either episode 3 or Episode 4.
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Quinn seems like the type of person who knows how to get
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things and who knows where to find things.
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And he even says it in this episode that that's one of the
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reasons Madam Janay has formed this partnership with him,
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because he can get things. He mentioned to Izzy, he said
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when he was talking about the clothes that he had brought her
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and the painting, He said I have a warehouse full of things that
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are at your disposal. So I believe that when
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everything went to shit, you know, even like with the
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jewelry, he told Isabel. He said, yeah.
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He said after you left, I could have walked on.
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I don't remember what the street name was, but I'm guessing it
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was kind of like the Rodeo Dr. of Paris.
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He was like, I couldn't, you know, people could walk in there
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and take things by the handful. You mean to tell me Quinn
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didn't? Because I told you he seems like
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a opportunist. He seems like somebody who knows
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how to keep things going and how to keep himself afloat.
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I mean, think about it, 12 years into a zombie apocalypse, this
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man had a fully stocked nightclub going on, performers,
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alcohol, everything. You can't tell me that he
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probably doesn't have stuff stashed away.
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Like I said, he probably sent people out to forage and to get
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stuff and he uses that as collateral and that's how he's
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been able to stay where he is. But yeah, Quinn, just, he seems
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like the type of person who was able to just like you know how
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some people when a zombie apocalypse or just any type of
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doomsday type thing that we've seen you, there's some people
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who just can't handle it, don't know what to do.
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And then you have some people who thrive in that kind of
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environment because they already know how to get around certain
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rules and they know how to. This was made for Quinn.
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Absolutely. Because I again, like I said, he
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moved Izzy to this mansion. First of all, the fact that
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y'all had to drug her to bring her in there.
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Oh, you were having nightmares. We gave you something to calm
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you down, really. And for me it was like clearly
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cause 'cause being at the nightclub, one would think this
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is where you, this is where you are.
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And then to go and you in this elaborate mansion on this
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compound with fancy beds and fancy shit and just.
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Right. You just wouldn't took you a
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house. Like a laid out breakfast.
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Like how you getting this kind of spread brunch spread 12 years
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into the zombie apocalypse, Like what kind of food storage system
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are you using to have all this stuff?
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And I mean, like you said, 12 years and people probably have
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figured out how to make stuff and that sort of thing.
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I'm I'm sure he's probably got chicken somewhere to have fresh
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eggs and everything. But I was just like, you got the
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alcohol and the champagne and you got jewelry here and
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everything is just so nice. And you look, he's the one
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person who actually has decent guards.
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Looks like 'cause you got him all over the.
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He paid, he get him. They treat it well.
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He treat them well. He has to.
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That's who he act. Treat him well, Marie.
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What I thought of her name was Anna.
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Is. It Marie.
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Are you sure? Yes, it's.
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Marie. We'll call her Marie.
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But this exercise? I've said this in the last
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episode. I said you are sit here and
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treat this woman like garbage because Izzy has shown back up
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in your life and you're expecting her to just be OK with
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this and not when she walked in that door and she was sitting
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there waiting for him to come out that room and she just
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dropped that glass. I said oh you don't fucked up
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now brother. I said she going to do something
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to you now and and I think I think I said something about her
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going to Madam Janae and y'all were telling me I was wrong.
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What did she do? She went straight to Madam Janae
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told. But she still ain't got to me
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here like you're doing all the. Way you back.
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You still ain't got him. You still like they should.
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I wouldn't want him at that point because you clearly have
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chosen this chick who left you in the dust 12 years ago over me
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and I'm supposed to what, Turn you in and then slip?
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No, no, no, brother. If that's the if that's the
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case, she should have did that at the nightclub when she showed
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up. Are you having all these
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conversations? Because you did that then
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because I don't think she, she didn't think that Isabel was
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going to come back. Isabel wasn't going to come
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back. The only reason why Izzy came
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back was because she knew that he would be the person who could
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get Daryl and Laurent out of the city.
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Like he could make that happen. And that's what he did.
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She's keeping up her bargain. But of course, Maria's like, oh,
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that's what you want, OK. I'm about to fuck you and all
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your life up. Like, you gonna treat me?
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You gonna throw me away for somebody who don't even want
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you? Ah, OK, I got you.
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I don't even want you and was about to kill you.
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So you had this profound thought about Abraham and redemption.
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Sir, it was 2 seconds for me and stabbed in the jugular with the
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corner of a cabinet. Right now, not even the corner
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of a cabinet, that was a piece from the mirror.
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It was like the the the decorative piece on the mirror.
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Whatever it was, she could have slugged him in the head with
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that statue. It she don't like you?
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But you know, I don't think. What part of that?
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I really don't think she thought that through very well, because
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even if she had killed him, where would she have gone?
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How would she? She don't even know what she is
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right now. And and then how you going to
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get past the guards? Exactly 'cause like I said,
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those guards seem like they actually know what they do, but.
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Then my, my thought was because, OK, so going back just for a hot
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second, when the I can't think what her name is the Hostess.
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We just gonna call it a Hostess. But I can think the lady who
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kept bringing her the food. Oh, yes.
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The so in the initial, the Hostess, she was the one who was
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like, Oh yeah, we gave you something so you could sleep.
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So in my mind, I'm like, oh, you gotta keep an eye on her.
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But then she the next day when she brings her breakfast and she
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was like, the eggs are really fresh.
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You wanna have eggs? She was like, we should say your
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friend brought on something. Tell your friend thank you.
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She's like, well, it wasn't my friend.
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But now you're passing. No.
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Right. So where are you on this
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spectrum? I think she might be one of
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those people who are like, OK, you know what?
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I'm gonna stay. I'm staying here and I'm being
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loyal because I'm being taken care.
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I mean, think about it. If you have your choice, and we
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say this when we talk about Negan and and the Saviors and
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the Sanctuary all the time. If you have your choice between
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being out on the road, living off what is left of the land,
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dodging walkers right and left, dodging dodgy people right and
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left. Or you can be laid up in this
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mansion, nicely dressed, clean, eating real food and all you
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have to do is serve the person who is in charge and it's
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obvious he ain't fucking with the help because he had Marie
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before Quinn came up. So all I got to do is just sit
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here and wait on your hand and foot and I ain't got to deal
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with none of that out there. And a zombie apocalypse.
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Yes, I'll be the servant. I'm so sorry.
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I sure will. What do you need?
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What? How can I be of service, Sir?
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I mean, I don't have to worry about killing walkers.
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I don't have to worry about catching fish and gutting them
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because I will catch a fish all day long.
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You will not get me to gut them. I'm with Laurent on this.
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What he say sometimes you got to do things you don't want to do.
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No, I'll go. I'll go be queen.
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I'll go be queen Housekeeper. I will go clean the mansion.
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I will go do whatever I need to do.
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I would go pass secret messages from.
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Who? What was probably Falou and
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what's her name? Sophie.
00:22:08
I will do all of that because I am I.
00:22:12
I will be dead, honest. I am not made for a zombie
00:22:17
apocalypse. I am not.
00:22:18
I like my creature comforts too much.
00:22:21
No, I'll go be the housekeeper. I'll go be the housekeeper.
00:22:29
Just be taken care of, huh? But that does have limits, like,
00:22:34
like Marie has, because Marie was like, oh, you, you, you want
00:22:39
her. OK, OK.
00:22:41
I'm gone. Because what did she say in the
00:22:43
last episode to him when she was telling him she was like, when
00:22:47
she's gone for good? And he said, oh, really?
00:22:50
She said sometimes. What?
00:22:53
What did she say? Women need a reason to stay.
00:22:59
And what did she say? Some women need to, I can't
00:23:04
remember. She said something about some
00:23:05
some women have reasons for walking away and some need a
00:23:08
reason to stay. And I was like, dude, you're not
00:23:12
giving this chick no reason to stay.
00:23:15
You find enough that the ex-girlfriend you're you're like
00:23:19
literally she's trying to touch you and you're just kind of
00:23:22
like, oh, don't touch me. Don't touch me when you were
00:23:24
probably all over her a few days ago and then you want to bring
00:23:30
your son that nobody knew about in here and you want the
00:23:34
girlfriend who's being currently spurned to watch over him and
00:23:38
you give her a loaded gun to protect him.
00:23:43
Like I said, if I was her at that point, he probably would
00:23:46
have been shot. But I think what she did was so
00:23:49
much better because shooting him, killing him, that would
00:23:53
have been too quick. There would have been no like
00:23:57
the satisfaction wouldn't wouldn't be there because oh,
00:24:00
you hurt me in such a horrendous way and now you get to just like
00:24:06
I'm a shoot you and you die and that's going to be it.
00:24:08
But I'm still going to be sitting here hurting because of
00:24:10
what you did. No, let me find another way to
00:24:13
wreck your life. Hey, girl, let me tell you about
00:24:17
Quinn. When you was over here looking
00:24:19
for this boy, he had the boy upstairs.
00:24:22
Or he knew where he was and he was lying to you.
00:24:25
And oh, yeah, he also made it so the boy could get out of Paris,
00:24:30
girl. So much more satisfying.
00:24:32
Did you see the look she gave him when he walked in to that
00:24:37
little dungeon and he saw her sitting there and his brain
00:24:41
cells started rubbing together like, oh, wait a minute, you're
00:24:44
the one who did you see the look of satisfaction on her face?
00:24:50
That was a one true satisfaction.
00:24:53
If now walkers are going to tell him, tear him apart, is that
00:24:57
satisfaction? It would be for me.
00:25:00
Like you like OK, I get the OK when you pissed off your piss
00:25:07
you you always pissed off to a point you pissed off to the
00:25:10
point you want this mother fucker be because granted
00:25:15
Darrell's in the pit and we know Darrell is Darrell and Darrell
00:25:18
was. That was going down some.
00:25:20
Stuff up. I don't think Quinn has that
00:25:23
level of expertise. No, he doesn't.
00:25:26
So you, by you doing this, you have to know that you're killing
00:25:31
this man. You so mad at me you want me to
00:25:35
die? Probably so, because guess what?
00:25:39
If she's been with him any length of time before this, she
00:25:44
probably knows where all the bodies of birds.
00:25:46
She knows where the whale houses are.
00:25:48
You saw she just strolled up to the mansion and walked her ass
00:25:52
on in like she had been. Let me tell you, if this man is
00:25:55
dead, she already knows. Izzy don't want no, no part of
00:25:58
this. Guess who's in charge now?
00:26:02
She is, and she probably has Madame Julie backing her up like
00:26:07
she's. Going to nobody listening to
00:26:08
her. She's.
00:26:09
So she's a plotter. Yes, she is a plotter, but I
00:26:14
don't see her being authoritative where anybody is
00:26:17
going to be like, oh, oh. Yeah, got to be she and Madam
00:26:20
Janae's good graces right now. Madam Janae is probably like,
00:26:24
oh, you know what? So I got you.
00:26:28
You you want to take control of this?
00:26:29
Yeah. Because now she can control
00:26:33
Marie. Oh, this is what I need.
00:26:35
I need this. I need that.
00:26:37
I need this champagne. But Marie ain't going to make
00:26:39
it. But you know what, she might
00:26:42
not. But for right now, she is on top
00:26:46
of the world and that's all she needs.
00:26:49
She she probably won't make it. She probably won't make it past
00:26:53
the week. At this point, we don't care.
00:26:55
She probably don't. I'm just saying she was a means
00:27:01
to an end for Quinn. We don't care about anything
00:27:05
else. Like if she survives, if she
00:27:08
takes over his empire. I really don't care about all of
00:27:11
that because no, you, you got him trying to sort it out of the
00:27:16
way for the moment. So do you know what I'm, I'm not
00:27:21
mad at her. I'm really not because it's bad
00:27:25
enough, huh? I can't wait for her face to
00:27:29
give it off. Oh, so why you like Quinn?
00:27:33
No, I don't like Marie's double crossing ass.
00:27:38
Like except the fact that you lost.
00:27:42
It's a zombie apocalypse. Men look love and men are few
00:27:47
and far between. This man has been taking care of
00:27:50
you for years and all of a sudden you being casted aside.
00:27:52
I would be pissed too. I would be petty Betty.
00:27:55
Yes, I absolutely would if I think it'll be.
00:27:58
It would be different if it was regular times, like not in a
00:28:04
zombie apocalypse, like if she could just go anywhere else.
00:28:07
If she could just, oh, you, you don't want me?
00:28:10
I'm going to go. I'm a, I'm a find another club
00:28:12
to work at, whatever. But Quinn, her relationship with
00:28:16
Quinn at this point is so much a part of who she is because not
00:28:22
only is she the girlfriend, she's also the entertainer at
00:28:26
the club. She's the one that, you know,
00:28:28
it's like he's been taking care of her because obviously she
00:28:33
ain't taking care of herself. I mean, just what we see from
00:28:35
her as a character, she does not seem like really the I don't
00:28:42
want to say she she doesn't seem like the self-sufficient type,
00:28:45
but almost kind of like that damsel in distress, like, OK,
00:28:50
I'm I'm going to stay with him. And because you can't tell me
00:28:54
this is the first time that he's treated her like he didn't want
00:28:57
to be bothered by her, right? People like him, they get in
00:29:02
those moves off and on. So she knows what he's like, but
00:29:07
she probably just didn't think, OK, you know what?
00:29:10
He just going to toss me aside for whatever.
00:29:13
And then he did. And she's like, oh, OK, you know
00:29:15
what, whatever. I mean, I'm not mad at him
00:29:23
because Quinn is trash. He is definitely.
00:29:28
He's sitting there expecting Izzy to want to be with him
00:29:32
again, to want to pick up where they left off.
00:29:35
Dude, the last time I saw you, you told me that you were the
00:29:38
father of my sister's baby and I'm supposed to be all hot and
00:29:42
heavy ready to jump your No do that at.
00:29:50
But I love you, girl. Again, I need to know what easy
00:29:55
got going on 'cause this is 12 years down the road and he's
00:29:59
still looking at her like, do you love me?
00:30:03
She. Got golden in there with fan.
00:30:07
She must she. Must.
00:30:11
But anyway, OK, so let's step away from Quinn and easy and
00:30:15
them 'cause we got to come back to them later on.
00:30:18
Let's talk about Daryl a little bit.
00:30:21
So as we talked about it at the beginning of this episode, Daryl
00:30:25
was off minding his own business somewhere near the coast of
00:30:29
Maine. His bike had run out of gas.
00:30:32
He comes across this guy who's like, hey, we have ways for you
00:30:36
to get the gas, but you got to work for it.
00:30:38
OK? Daryl is no stranger to doing
00:30:41
that type of thing. So he goes, he finds out what
00:30:44
they're trying to do. They're they're gathering up
00:30:47
walkers for what reason? They don't say Darryl really
00:30:52
doesn't care. He's just like, OK, are you
00:30:54
going to give me my gas? So what they do is they put a
00:30:58
limit like for the more, the more walkers you bring in, the
00:31:01
more gas you get. So of course you have this one
00:31:04
group of assholes. Like I said, they were, I'll
00:31:07
call them claimers 2 point O because that's kind of the vibe
00:31:10
they were given. You have them come in with five
00:31:14
walkers. Darryl comes in with like 7 or 8
00:31:17
all together. OK.
00:31:19
Oh, and at least that answers the question of where his damn
00:31:22
crossbow is. It's probably still in Maine
00:31:24
because he had it in this scene. So while he's at this place,
00:31:30
this this kid kind of like a older, I would say, maybe late
00:31:34
teens, early 20s, very clearly out of place, very clearly does
00:31:39
not know what he's doing. But he's there because he's
00:31:42
trying to get gas. He puts himself on the old, you
00:31:45
know, claimers 2 point O radar. And of course, they start
00:31:48
bullying him and stuff. OK, Daryl don't want nothing to
00:31:52
do with this. Daryl just trying to get his gas
00:31:54
so he can go home. Now, during this part, Daryl
00:31:59
gets access to a radio. And whose voice do we hear
00:32:03
Carol? Oh yeah.
00:32:07
So she finally makes not necessarily an appearance in
00:32:10
this episode, but we do hear her voice.
00:32:12
They do have a conversation. Daryl tells her where where she
00:32:15
he is. And he keeps asking her.
00:32:18
He's like, are you OK? Now?
00:32:20
The conversation is interesting because the first time he asks
00:32:23
it, she says, yeah, just take some getting used to.
00:32:28
And he's sitting there holding the radio like he's waiting for
00:32:31
her to elaborate. Like, what takes getting used
00:32:34
to. Then he says it again.
00:32:37
Are you OK? Are you sure you're OK?
00:32:39
I'll be home in a week. Are you OK?
00:32:40
She was like, Daryl, you don't have to worry about me.
00:32:43
And then after pause, she's like Daryl.
00:32:46
And you kind of hear static starting to interrupt the the
00:32:49
signal. And she says blank, Blank came
00:32:52
home. Now, of course, we're all going
00:32:55
crazy because when this originally aired, this was
00:32:59
before the ones who live had aired.
00:33:01
So we're all like, who is she saying came home?
00:33:03
Is she saying Michonne came home?
00:33:05
Did Rick come home? Did somebody else?
00:33:07
Like, we didn't know. We actually still don't know.
00:33:11
We can only speculate because of the fact that Michonne and Rick
00:33:15
have come back. But I haven't had time to go
00:33:19
back right now and do this math, especially after remembering
00:33:22
Quinn said it's been 12 years, 'cause I'm pretty sure it had
00:33:26
been longer than that for Michonne and Rick from the time
00:33:30
they came back. So I'm like, OK, we don't have
00:33:32
to go through, figure this out, figure the timeline.
00:33:35
It could be Rick and Michonne. And that's what takes getting
00:33:39
used to. But.
00:33:42
I was Morgan. My my thought initially when it
00:33:45
aired was Morgan. Yeah, 'cause we know Morgan left
00:33:48
fear to go back to Alexandria. So fine, Rick, Yeah.
00:33:53
So that was my thought that Morgan came back because that
00:33:57
was all they really, really left during that Morgan.
00:34:02
We knew Morgan was gone. But even though he left, you
00:34:05
know, seasons before, but aside from Rick and Michonne going,
00:34:10
you know, on their thing, Morgan was the only other person that
00:34:13
really left that Darrell really knew.
00:34:17
You know, we've had people come and go, but we know Morgan was a
00:34:21
part of that community, you know, for so long, for as much
00:34:25
as he did before he, you know, we had to clear and leave.
00:34:29
Right. So my thought has always been
00:34:32
Morgan. Even now, even after the other
00:34:34
show went off, my thought is still Morgan.
00:34:38
And I think the only thing that would make me say is not Morgan
00:34:43
is because even though Morgan was a part of the community, he
00:34:49
and Darryl never really had that much interaction.
00:34:54
You know, Morgan's whole thing was Rick because that was his,
00:34:58
that was his tether to the old world because Rick was he was
00:35:02
the one that found Rick and you know, all that stuff.
00:35:06
So it could make sense. But I feel like it would have
00:35:10
more of an impact if it had been Rick or Michelle, especially
00:35:14
Michelle, because Darren knew the Michelle went out there.
00:35:18
But my thought. But if that's the case and I'm
00:35:21
on the phone with you and I tell you, oh, Rick came back, that I
00:35:26
wouldn't live with that. Yeah.
00:35:29
Yeah. How are you doing?
00:35:29
I'm great. But guess what?
00:35:32
You. Understand what?
00:35:33
Which makes me think it's somebody important, but not as
00:35:36
important as Rick. OK, 'cause if Rick comes home,
00:35:39
that is she know why Darrell left, right?
00:35:42
So if Rick came home, the first thing I'm saying, Rick is here,
00:35:44
you need to come home. Like your search is over.
00:35:47
Come home. Yeah.
00:35:49
Which is another reason I still believe it's Morgan, because
00:35:54
your whole purpose for being out, for leaving, I'm going to
00:35:57
look. I'm going to see what clues I
00:35:59
can find. That was your purpose.
00:36:01
Yeah, you're right. And so if the purpose that you
00:36:04
left is like, that's the first thing, I'm like, Oh my God.
00:36:06
Darrell, this issue, Rick's here.
00:36:08
Come home. Right.
00:36:10
I'm not gonna have no conversation about how you could
00:36:12
figure out how new when you get home.
00:36:15
I'm not gonna have these conversations, which makes me
00:36:17
think it's somebody not as high as Rick, Right?
00:36:21
Because if I say if, if if you wanna phone with me and you say
00:36:25
Casey is Michelle. I'm on my way.
00:36:27
Like, I don't care how you doing.
00:36:30
I don't care about none of that. I'm on my way.
00:36:32
Oh, OK. Say less.
00:36:34
Click. Let me get my guess.
00:36:35
I gotta go. You understand what I'm saying?
00:36:39
Well taken. So it it can't be Rick, point
00:36:44
taken, can't be Rick and Michonne 'cause that you won't
00:36:47
leave with that right going leave with you.
00:36:50
Right. You are so right.
00:36:51
I take back everything. You just made your point right
00:36:56
there. You already know girl, you
00:36:58
called me and be like denies girl, you know I'm on my way.
00:37:05
But anyway, so then after the after this call cuts out, of
00:37:09
course, you know they they go back out the next morning and
00:37:13
when the other guys when claimers 2 point O Come back,
00:37:17
they have the kid at the end of their Walker chain and he is a
00:37:23
Walker. He has been killed and there was
00:37:26
looking he's like what the fuck happened to them?
00:37:28
OK so let me just say this. I think Daryl dropped like 4F
00:37:32
bombs in this episode and it's they.
00:37:34
Just get them all out the way. Right.
00:37:36
It's just so funny to me because, you know, they have
00:37:39
been so strict about it. And then like in the last couple
00:37:42
of seasons, you would hear it here and there.
00:37:47
So the fact that he dropped multiple ones in this episode, I
00:37:51
was laughing. But he's like what happened here
00:37:54
and the guy was like, I don't know, we found him like that.
00:37:57
He was like he got burn marks on his neck.
00:37:59
So I guess the the boys offer of I'll do whatever y'all want if
00:38:05
y'all would help me. I guess they were like, oh, OK,
00:38:07
you said you'll do anything. So you're going to add to our
00:38:09
accounts and then we don't have to give you any gas.
00:38:12
You won't have to worry about gas.
00:38:14
So of course and and. He was a fresh kill so he was
00:38:17
worth more. Right.
00:38:19
So, you know, Daryl was pissed. And Daryl is the one who punches
00:38:24
the guy, And that's what leads to this whole thing.
00:38:28
And they go to, you know, and we're seeing all of this in
00:38:32
flashbacks over the course of the episode.
00:38:35
So, like, certain things, Daryl is kind of like, thinking about
00:38:39
how he got there, and that's how we're finding out about this.
00:38:42
But when they put him on that boat, OK, first of all, I was
00:38:45
like, the dude who took his jacket needs to die first.
00:38:50
The guy who took his jacket, that's the one that needs to die
00:38:54
first because how dare you? I'm a, I'm a pull a case.
00:38:58
And how dare you? I'm Dick, whatever that is.
00:39:02
We don't touch that. We don't touch the vest.
00:39:07
And everybody who has tried taking that vest before has died
00:39:13
with the exception of Dwight. And Dwight got his ass handed to
00:39:16
him very thoroughly. Hey there.
00:39:21
In order to get that back. And the only reason why he lived
00:39:23
is because he, you know, Sherry helped Darrell escape from the
00:39:28
the sanctuary. So you don't touch the jacket.
00:39:34
But while they're on the boat, the guys who are capturing them,
00:39:40
they come in and they take one of the guys out and they throw
00:39:43
him into some walkers. And I was like, there was
00:39:46
sitting there looking like this what we do, he can come here for
00:39:53
this is the look on his face. He was like, oh shit, I need to
00:39:57
figure out how to get out here. I need to figure out how to get
00:40:01
out. But OK on the boats.
00:40:08
So they pulled Darrell out and they are 'cause he was like he
00:40:13
was sick of some shit faking faking so they would come and
00:40:17
open his door. Oldest show in the book went
00:40:20
oldest trick in the book and they fell for it.
00:40:22
So as they pull him up, they just like, well, you sick, we
00:40:25
just gonna throw you into these walkers.
00:40:26
So they open the Walker cage and there was like who going in
00:40:32
there? I think you will go before I go.
00:40:34
So he knocked one of them in the other one who had his jacket on.
00:40:40
You ain't going nowhere with this, Jackie.
00:40:42
He choked him out and probably snatched jacket on, jacket on,
00:40:45
put it back on and was like. Now I'm back, now I can go
00:40:50
through and call some mayhem on this God damn shit.
00:40:53
He let the other dude who ended up on boat with him out and now
00:40:57
y'all trying to run and now. And now we realize on this one
00:41:03
how much different the variants are because this mother fucker
00:41:06
came up the stairs with no arms like.
00:41:09
Girl, when I when I saw that thing come up the stairs like
00:41:14
that and also the way that they're just kind of tearing at
00:41:19
like. He didn't even bite him, he's
00:41:21
just like ripping his eyes. Out and I think it's and, and
00:41:26
again, I want, I really want us to go away from the word
00:41:29
variants because I don't think these are variants they're being
00:41:32
experimented on. They're also, so it's just kind
00:41:35
of like, yeah, I, I won't call them variants.
00:41:40
We'll call them Altered. Altered.
00:41:42
There you go. Or enhanced when that thing ran
00:41:46
up the stairs, I was like, I'm done, I'm done.
00:41:50
And and fast and fast. What like like some World War Z
00:41:57
bullshit World War. That's exactly what came to my
00:42:00
mind. Yeah, they were slow up them
00:42:02
downstairs, girl. I had to pause my TV.
00:42:06
Look, even that I got goosebumps.
00:42:08
I had to pause my TV 'cause I was like, I need, I was like, I
00:42:13
need time to prepare because the things almost got Darrell a
00:42:18
couple of times because even. When he hit it with the thing
00:42:22
and it was like, Oh no, just. Got back up.
00:42:26
I mean, OK, it's in the background now.
00:42:29
And yelled. Darrell jumps off the boat into
00:42:35
the water. This thing is chasing him like
00:42:38
running. Now, that's something we really
00:42:41
haven't seen with the main show. Like we've seen fast walkers,
00:42:46
but I don't think we've seen running walkers since the first
00:42:49
season when those walkers were chasing after Rick and Glenn,
00:42:53
when the when the rain started washing away the guts, you saw
00:42:56
some of them starting to run, but it wasn't like a run run.
00:43:00
It was just kind of like a a leap.
00:43:02
This thing was running. I was like, no, no.
00:43:06
So then it makes you wonder when you see what happens at the end,
00:43:10
you know, at the end of the episode, what don't we 'cause
00:43:17
obviously y'all can't be trying to y'all, Y'all can't be trying
00:43:20
to cure them and y'all can't be trying to find a cure.
00:43:23
You are weaponizing these things as if they aren't weapons
00:43:27
already. You are making it worse.
00:43:29
But that explains that the acid coming from the walkers that
00:43:33
explain. I was like, you know what, this
00:43:39
woman, Madam Janay, I don't know what her deal is.
00:43:44
She ain't right in the head to be doing all of that.
00:43:50
You ain't right in the head. I understand you're trying to
00:43:53
bring some sense of control. You try to be in charge.
00:43:56
You're trying to quote UN quote, reunite France.
00:44:01
I I question your methods good lady, 'cause no, no.
00:44:07
We we also know that any dictator have an ulterior
00:44:13
motive. We need to figure out what that
00:44:16
is. And there is some sort of motive
00:44:18
because they shoot the zombies with a serum to enhance them
00:44:26
more. Because now once they got shot
00:44:29
with it, you see their veins and stuff all popping.
00:44:31
I'm like OK. What is we doing here?
00:44:36
So you have to know that you're doing this and testing this to
00:44:41
see the limits of what you're zombies can do and to have it as
00:44:47
a public spectacle, you know, to have it to where?
00:44:52
Oh, yeah, look and see what these we can now win the war
00:44:56
because we can enhance design, whatever her purpose is gonna
00:44:59
because, you know, it's gonna be some purpose.
00:45:02
But you have to keep in mind you threw the wrong person in there
00:45:05
with them. See I.
00:45:09
You did the wrong one, I'm just sorry.
00:45:10
So I understand y'all don't know Daryl's history, y'all haven't
00:45:16
been around him the last 12 years.
00:45:18
Y'all just don't know all the shit that he has fought through
00:45:21
and all this other stuff. But you should have known that.
00:45:26
I mean, even though, you know, they kind of leave us on a
00:45:28
cliffhanger with them in the pit, but still.
00:45:32
This is the same one American who fucked your whole ship.
00:45:36
Over you all are not giving him enough credit and that's what it
00:45:40
is. You are taking for granted that
00:45:43
the same way I I hate saying but the same way they taking Laurent
00:45:47
for granted. You are underestimating.
00:45:50
Yeah. These people, because for three
00:45:53
people, Isabel, Laurent and Darrell to come in, they don't
00:45:58
fucked up everything. Everywhere they went, leaving
00:46:00
people alone. Everywhere they went, they don't
00:46:03
fucked it up. Maybe people alone.
00:46:07
If you see that they oh, they it it.
00:46:10
If I see somebody keep getting out of a situation that I'm
00:46:13
putting you in right, I may wanna stop fucking with them.
00:46:18
Because yes, we are 12/13/14 years into the zombie
00:46:23
apocalypse. Come on now, people have
00:46:27
learned, yes, you still have your people who are sheltered,
00:46:30
who don't want to, you know, they was out there in the world.
00:46:33
There's like, this ain't for me. Let me be sheltered.
00:46:36
Let me do what I need to do to remain safe.
00:46:38
But you have people like Darrell, Rick, Michonne, Carol
00:46:41
who have been out in the world and know that this circumstance
00:46:44
right now, I haven't been through worse.
00:46:48
I don't have a home overrun. I didn't had groups of people
00:46:52
inside the walkers killing our friends like we have been
00:46:56
through some shit. Yeah.
00:46:59
So don't think that you coming in trying to make something
00:47:04
difficult that I'm not gonna figure out a way out of this, no
00:47:06
matter what you perceive that act.
00:47:10
So stop under that. I think that's the main thing to
00:47:14
what 'cause it that that even rings true with like the ones
00:47:19
who live. You underestimated.
00:47:22
You totally underestimated. Although Jade is new, if we got
00:47:26
1 Michelle, there's no underestimation she is she that
00:47:29
she knew. She knew.
00:47:31
She knew like, wait a minute. This woman left her children
00:47:34
well, at at times she didn't know about.
00:47:36
This woman left her child to come and look for it.
00:47:40
Yeah, and I'll. Stop.
00:47:41
So you're totally underestimated and not giving these people
00:47:44
their credit who have literally survived.
00:47:47
Mm hmm zombie apocalypse or I won't.
00:47:50
Even I won't even say not giving them their credit, because
00:47:52
again, Madam Janay only knows so much about Darryl.
00:47:55
But you obviously ain't reading the room.
00:47:59
Madam Janay know Darryl fucked up her whole ship.
00:48:03
Why would you keep? I mean this is one of the things
00:48:05
you kill him as soon as you find him.
00:48:07
Like why would you continue to let him be free for your
00:48:11
experiments knowing? Yeah.
00:48:14
I just sunk your bowl. Yeah, well, well, I sunk your
00:48:20
boat out of been a slippery little snake.
00:48:22
Every time somebody after me, they don't catch me.
00:48:26
I'm I'm. I'm.
00:48:27
'Cause at this point, Codrone should be out of a job right
00:48:30
now. You know he should be out of a
00:48:34
job because you keep telling Madam Janette I will find him
00:48:38
for you. I will kill him for you.
00:48:40
And granted she has Darrell right now, but why?
00:48:45
The only reason why she has Daryl is because Laurent's book
00:48:48
bag wasn't closed and his stuff fell out when they rushed.
00:48:52
If he didn't have those items fall out that book bag, they
00:48:55
wouldn't have had a reason to stop.
00:48:57
Because you have to think about it, they put, they probably
00:49:00
patrol those streets so many times a day.
00:49:04
So they know what's there was not just like with in the last
00:49:08
episode with the pigeon guy, they saw his bike there with the
00:49:11
pigeons. They were like, hold up, this
00:49:13
hasn't been here before. What's going on?
00:49:16
And then of course, the guy comes out because he doesn't
00:49:18
want them to take his pigeons. But I mean, they're paying
00:49:22
attention to this type of stuff. And especially if you're looking
00:49:25
for a child, you got a Rubik's Cube, you got crayons and a
00:49:30
book, obviously that's a child. But OK, so since we're talking
00:49:38
about Laurent, let's, let's, let's back it up a little bit
00:49:40
and let's talk about this whole trip to the next 'cause I
00:49:42
already know what you're going to say.
00:49:44
And, and, and I will say this, this episode was really the one
00:49:50
that I empathize with him the most because yes, I was, I was
00:49:57
on the same warpath with Daryl because Laurent, you know,
00:50:02
they're getting ready to go to the nest.
00:50:03
They have this guy Aslan who's helping them.
00:50:06
And Aslan overnight is killed by zombies because zombies got into
00:50:11
the camp. He tried to fight one off and he
00:50:14
ends up impaling himself on the telephone pole, which I will
00:50:18
say, even though that was a sad scene, it was funny to me
00:50:21
because I was like, this dude still has a sense of humor.
00:50:25
He was like, God has a sense of humor, he said.
00:50:28
My dad worked on telephone poles all his life, and now I'm being
00:50:31
killed, like I'm dying because of one, right?
00:50:35
So after they bury Aslan and Daryl and Laurent are getting
00:50:41
ready to keep going to the nest, Darryl realizes that the boat is
00:50:45
missing. And the boat has been cut from
00:50:48
the tree. And you can just see from the
00:50:50
way Laurent was looking, I was like.
00:50:52
He didn't. He did.
00:50:58
But when I tell you that tirade that Daryl let out, I have never
00:51:06
heard Daryl go off like that ever on an adult, much less a
00:51:11
child. He was like, you stupid little
00:51:16
shit, why would you do that? Blah blah blah blah blah.
00:51:20
I mean, he was going off. That was the closest thing to a
00:51:24
whooping I I felt like, oh if he had a belt he just fucked his
00:51:29
little ass back. He would have, but then when he
00:51:31
asked him and Laurent just said, everyone that I care about is
00:51:36
gone, and when we get to the nest, you'll be gone too.
00:51:39
I don't want to be alone. I was like, OK, that's the first
00:51:44
time where I I guess because he's actually expressing how he
00:51:49
feels. Because throughout all of this,
00:51:51
Laurent has been pretty, I don't want to say nonchalant, but it's
00:51:57
kind of like he's been trying to be, he's been trying to act a
00:52:03
little more mature because he knows that these people are
00:52:06
depending on him, that they've placed this, this expectation on
00:52:10
him. And I think he was really trying
00:52:12
to to be what they wanted him to be.
00:52:16
But in that moment, in that moment, I saw Laurent as the
00:52:21
child that he is. And I think Daryl finally saw it
00:52:24
too. Because even up to that whole
00:52:27
point, when they're when they're walking through the woods and
00:52:31
they're, you know, they're catching fish.
00:52:33
And Laurent was like, oh, I can't eat that fish.
00:52:36
I promised God. And there was like, well,
00:52:38
sometimes we got to do what we got to do to survive.
00:52:41
And it was just a whole bunch of, you know, when he was
00:52:44
talking to Ashland, he was like, yeah, the way they, they raised
00:52:47
him at the Abbey, they raised him soft.
00:52:51
He's going to have to know how to defend himself.
00:52:53
We had, we had this whole big conversation about this two
00:52:57
episodes ago about what they should have done at the Abbey
00:53:01
and how they should have treated him and how they should have
00:53:03
been training him and all this other stuff.
00:53:06
But it's like in that moment when he says I don't want to be
00:53:09
alone, Daryl also stopped looking at him.
00:53:14
I don't think Daryl was ever looking at him like he was the
00:53:16
Savior that everybody else does. But he knew that this child had
00:53:20
a greater purpose because that's what everybody's been telling
00:53:22
him. And in that moment, that's when
00:53:24
you look at him as just a child and he apologizes.
00:53:29
He's like, OK, it's going to be all right.
00:53:31
We're, you know, we'll, we'll make it.
00:53:34
And then, of course, they get captured later because they hear
00:53:37
the trucks coming. The truck stops because they
00:53:40
find the stuff. Darrell tells the wine to go,
00:53:43
you know, follow the river to go to the nest.
00:53:47
And he comes back because he doesn't want Darrell to die,
00:53:50
which on the one hand, I was kind of like, you should have
00:53:53
kept going. But again, if you if he
00:53:55
literally just told you that when you leave, he'll have
00:53:59
nobody else that cares for him, I can understand.
00:54:03
Again, he's he's thinking with the mind of a child.
00:54:06
I get that, but they wouldn't let me kill him.
00:54:07
They was just gonna take his eyeball.
00:54:11
That can kill most people and Laurent probably, but all they
00:54:15
was doing was going to take a eyeball.
00:54:16
But Laurent probably didn't know that.
00:54:18
He just saw. He just saw them coming with a
00:54:20
knife towards Darren. He was like, look, don't kill
00:54:22
him. And then that's when all of.
00:54:26
This eyeball. That's when all of this stuff
00:54:29
starts coming up because they get captured, they get taken to
00:54:33
Madam Janae. Madam Janae sends this
00:54:36
invitation to Quinn to come to her, you know, to come to her
00:54:40
headquarters. And I guess because of the the
00:54:44
note, the message that Izzy received, she realized that's
00:54:49
where Falou and Sophie were going to be.
00:54:51
So she ends up going to because when they're pulling up in the
00:54:54
car, you see them standing in the line outside trying to get
00:54:58
in. So I don't think when knew what
00:55:04
he was walking into, he thought, hey.
00:55:06
Of course he didn't. Hers we're.
00:55:07
Going to go in and Madam Janae is just like, OK, yeah, come
00:55:11
here. Because there's a guard being
00:55:14
brought to a room. He where he's being beat to
00:55:18
death. He's calling for Quinn.
00:55:20
Monsieur Quinn. Monsieur Quinn, save me, Help
00:55:23
me. And you know, Madam Janae said
00:55:26
something to him about. Yeah, one of my one of my guards
00:55:29
let some people out of the city that we were trying to keep in.
00:55:33
He took a what it. What is it that you called?
00:55:36
And she said the word in French. And Isabel was like, bribe.
00:55:39
Yeah, that's it. Bribe.
00:55:42
OK, y'all come follow me. I was like, at that point, y'all
00:55:45
should have been like, Nope, Especially after the guard was
00:55:49
calling Quinn's name. You should have known you were
00:55:52
sunk. But now they turn the little
00:55:55
corner. Here go, Marie standing there
00:55:58
looking all like, yes, I got you.
00:56:01
And Daryl is in the jail cell. OK, So they put Quinn in the
00:56:06
jail cell because Madam Janae is like, oh, you disappointed me.
00:56:09
I thought you were better than this.
00:56:11
She sticks Quinn in the cell with Daryl.
00:56:14
Then she takes Isabel with her to her office and there's
00:56:18
Laurent and apparently Laurent been telling her some stuff
00:56:23
because she was like, he don't want to do what I say and he's
00:56:26
starting to make me mad. And you don't want.
00:56:28
She's not like the Incredible Hulk.
00:56:30
You don't want you'll see me when I'm angry, right?
00:56:34
And she said, what did he tell her?
00:56:37
He said, you're not angry, your heart is broken.
00:56:39
Did you see the change on her face?
00:56:42
She was like, how the fuck he know this?
00:56:43
I don't know where her heart is broken over, but I'm.
00:56:46
Sure, we'll find that. That touched the nerve.
00:56:49
Yeah, it did. Because she.
00:56:50
Don't wanna believe she don't wanna believe you don't.
00:56:54
Same way when they went into the village and the lady who was a
00:56:58
who had just lost her her child. Her.
00:57:02
Husband, her husband. I'm sorry the lady who had just
00:57:04
lost her husband then she she told her did like that she
00:57:07
better believe. Right.
00:57:10
But you don't want these people to believe in something other
00:57:12
than what you telling them. And we said we didn't it.
00:57:16
It doesn't sound familiar. You know, all, all villains, all
00:57:25
narcissists, They they have this whole thing.
00:57:29
So what she wants is she wants Laurent to come out with her as
00:57:33
a show of faith, as a show of oh, no, we this, this child
00:57:38
can't defeat me. This child is meant to help me
00:57:40
unify France. He was like, they gonna know
00:57:44
it's a lie. She, she, she looked like she
00:57:47
was about to say. I'm about to give you a
00:57:48
whooping. You do.
00:57:51
What the hell? I said, right?
00:57:54
It's what she was saying. I'm gonna fuck your auntie up.
00:57:56
That's. Fuck her right up.
00:57:59
So she comes out, she makes a speech, and of course all the
00:58:02
people who were standing outside, they're in there.
00:58:05
Falou is in there, Sophie is in there.
00:58:06
Like we said, she brings Daryl out into this thing because
00:58:11
she's basically saying, yeah, this person, he's trespassing,
00:58:14
he's not supposed to be here. He's put a he's put a disruption
00:58:18
into my progress and we're going to make him pay for it.
00:58:21
And then like you said, you got this Walker who already looks
00:58:27
sketchy, then they shoot him up with something and it's like
00:58:32
zombie on crack. I'm looking for the no I'm sorry
00:58:41
and. And that's what they leave us
00:58:43
on. Really.
00:58:47
I mean, I know the next episode is the season finale, but
00:58:50
really? Yeah, because I think at this
00:58:54
point we've gotten so much information as far as the
00:59:01
experimentations through all of this shows we've gotten so much
00:59:06
that this is now the the pinnacle to where what the fuck
00:59:11
y'all been working on what has been going on and what is
00:59:14
everything. So I think even though it at the
00:59:17
end they shoot him with the you know, with the little serum or
00:59:19
whatever and he you know powers up.
00:59:22
I think in the next episode we finally gonna hopefully get some
00:59:26
answers to all the stuff that they've been working on even
00:59:28
better. And we have to because what are
00:59:31
you shooting them with? Like what is this now?
00:59:34
And because if you remember a few episodes back they had did
00:59:37
something and remember the Walker went crazy and smashed
00:59:40
itself into the glass. Yes.
00:59:42
But then you have this other one that's on the boat now can run
00:59:47
upstairs, tears people apart with his hands as opposed to
00:59:50
biting. So how do we get from smashing
00:59:54
ourselves into the glass so I can run up the stairs and tear
00:59:58
you apart with my bare hands? And it's not even, it's not even
01:00:01
the fact that he was doing it with his hands, cause yeah,
01:00:03
we've seen walkers tear people apart, but it's usually a slow.
01:00:08
Process the way he's tore that man apart.
01:00:11
Come on, now that we need an explanation, you can't just be
01:00:15
like, Oh no, you can't Unexplained that.
01:00:18
We need some context as to what? Because we've like, as you said,
01:00:22
we see variations and alterations of walkers over
01:00:25
time. And we know the variants are
01:00:27
walkers themselves. Because if we even go back to
01:00:30
season 1 when Jenny jiggled the door knob and then there we
01:00:35
left, that's where they stopped doing that and then just became,
01:00:39
you know, basic walkers. And now we have this iteration
01:00:44
of them. That now once we shoot you with
01:00:47
something like your eyes turn black and then the blood starts
01:00:50
filling the rest of your pupils and you start doing the shaking
01:00:53
thing, it's like. So there has to.
01:00:57
Be Leroy was like, 'cause the people were cheering, Leroy was
01:01:00
like why are they cheering? Like what the fuck is wrong with
01:01:02
these people? And then they take you back to
01:01:04
goddamn Commonwealth with the wrestling match.
01:01:06
What? What?
01:01:07
Why is this entertainment doing this right?
01:01:11
And Cadrone sitting there talking about today you would
01:01:13
die for my brother. Daryl looking up at him like
01:01:15
what are you talk? Daryl still don't know that's
01:01:18
why Cadrone got a hard on for him.
01:01:21
He still don't know that's why Cadrone been chasing after him
01:01:23
this whole time because that little girl lied about him
01:01:26
killing his brother. Yeah.
01:01:28
I'm like, you know what? If Daryl don't go back home
01:01:30
after this, if Daryl don't say, you know what, I have had enough
01:01:34
of France, I'm done. Send me home.
01:01:38
Home right. Home, Let.
01:01:40
Me tell you so in the history of zombie movies, TV shows and
01:01:47
stuff I have always said like when I watched World War Z for
01:01:52
the first time and I saw the those zombies running after
01:01:57
people. I have always said, I said, you
01:01:59
know what I said if anything like that ever happens, like
01:02:02
Walking Dead walkers that are kind of sludging through
01:02:06
whatever, I might can handle those.
01:02:09
But if you have walkers that are running towards me, I'm gonna
01:02:14
sit down on the floor, cross my legs and just come by y'all
01:02:18
myself to death. Say if I got a gun or whatever,
01:02:21
I'm, I'm just, I'm ending it 'cause I'm not about to be torn
01:02:25
apart by those type of things. These walkers make those walkers
01:02:32
look like child's play. Not fucking with it, no.
01:02:38
And then you shooting them up and got them shaking and
01:02:42
absolutely not. No way in hell.
01:02:45
Maybe it's crack. You know crack is strong as.
01:02:50
Him. No.
01:02:50
Whatever it is I want. No part of it.
01:02:56
Yeah. Tell me you will not have to
01:02:59
tell me 'cause guess what? I'm going to lock myself in my
01:03:02
house. Right.
01:03:05
And if they strong enough to get through those doors, they just
01:03:09
they just strong enough to get through those doors.
01:03:12
The only thing I can think of that I would do the escape, I
01:03:15
would have to find some way to get in my attic and pull that
01:03:18
ladder up after me because you can't.
01:03:23
That's probably the one safest place.
01:03:25
But then once they're in the house, are they going to just
01:03:28
leave the house once they realize nobody is there?
01:03:31
Like do those? We know that.
01:03:32
We know that they can become dormant.
01:03:35
Yeah, but they going to wake up as soon as I lower that damn
01:03:39
attic ladder down 'cause that thing makes a lot of noise,
01:03:44
right? Right.
01:03:46
I guess I need to take some WD40 up there with me.
01:03:48
But don't start going to start working in and loosening it up
01:03:52
now. 'Cause those kind of hobbies I'm
01:03:55
not like I said, I'm I'll equipped I'm not let me go find
01:04:01
somebody to take care of me to kill all the walkers while I can
01:04:05
just hello, no, I can't do it. OK, but anyway, so we.
01:04:11
Make it. We gonna be the two that we
01:04:13
gonna make it. Right, right.
01:04:16
So we are up to the season finale of Season 1 and because
01:04:22
we are recording these so late, Season 2 actually premieres a
01:04:29
week from today. So we will be getting the book
01:04:33
of Carol. I know that they have I think
01:04:35
the first 11 minutes online on YouTube right now or on.
01:04:41
AI have not watched it you. Haven't.
01:04:43
Are you going to? It's not really spoilery, but it
01:04:48
OK. Yeah, it's fine, 'cause you get
01:04:50
to see Carol. OK, then I might watch it.
01:04:52
OK. I just like, I normally won't I,
01:04:55
I normally try my best to stay away from stuff like that just
01:04:59
because I want to be in the moment when I watch it and I I
01:05:03
might not watch it because then I'm a Wonder Woman, you know,
01:05:07
granted island and then knowing I'm going to be delayed and
01:05:11
watching me when they come out anyway.
01:05:13
Yeah, I might, I might not be good with that.
01:05:14
Might not be. But yeah, so we have that coming
01:05:19
out next Sunday, September 29th. We already know that it has been
01:05:24
renewed for Season 3 and they are they, I think they have
01:05:27
already started shooting in Season 3 in Madrid, Spain.
01:05:32
Oh, cool. And then I believe I have heard
01:05:35
that there is going to be a Season 4.
01:05:39
Now, where they're going past that, I don't know, because it
01:05:44
all depends on where this goes with the Book of Carol.
01:05:47
Right. But but at least we know that we
01:05:51
are getting a couple more seasons of Walking Dead
01:05:53
contents. So I.
01:05:55
Think and then Dead City should be coming back soon as well.
01:05:59
That city should be coming back I think at the beginning of 2025
01:06:04
SA few months from now. I'm so sick of these long
01:06:09
hiatuses but. And then and then just for six.
01:06:13
Episodes. But you know what?
01:06:18
I take what I can get. I'm not going to complain 'cause
01:06:22
it's Walking Dead content. That's it.
01:06:24
We at least have something. We at least have something to to
01:06:30
and palette. Right, right.
01:06:32
Please. Our palette, I should say.
01:06:35
So do we have anything else to say about Episode 5?
01:06:40
I think we got everything. We got Lauren, we did everything
01:06:48
with. Bad ass.
01:06:49
We got Madam Janae. Well, her crazy ass and.
01:06:53
We got the Quinn and is Isabel stuff.
01:06:56
Well, they goofy ass Anne. Marie, I still can't believe.
01:06:59
It's scorned ass. I cannot believe you are mad at
01:07:03
her. I am mad at her.
01:07:07
Like I said if this was pre zombie apocalypse I would have
01:07:11
been like yeah you petty just go find you another man that's
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going to appreciate you. But post she.
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Should have took a page out of the Rosita book hold.
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