#thewalkingdead #TWD #daryldixon Daryl and Isabelle search for a missing Laurent, who heads to the only place that makes sense for him in Paris. Daryl resorts to extreme measures to find Laurent's location. A explosive rescue mission forces Isabelle to make a difficult choice in order to secure Laurent's safe delivery to The Nest.
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What's up, hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid podcast. This is Hanukkah and I am here
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with Casey and Michelle and we are picking up with our
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discussion of the Darrell Dixon series.
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We're on episode 4 of season 1 and it's been a minute since we
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talked about this show. You know, I guess we have we got
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way too much going on in our regular lives.
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We just, yeah, get it together. But we are here, Darrell.
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What'd you say? We have been neglecting Darrell.
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Yes, we have. But what we had decided to do
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was because the new season is coming in September, next month,
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next month. How was it already August?
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But since it's coming next month, we decided that we would
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record the remaining episodes and release those right before
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season 2. That way we can kind of flow
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into Season 2. So that's what we're doing.
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So anyway, let's talk about this.
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Casey was saying right before we started recording, she was
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laughing at my screen name about Laurent needing a whooping.
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And that's all I could hear in my head watching this episode.
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Like, why are you going to the Eiffel Tower?
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Why people are looking for you? They shooting for you.
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You aren't you. This boy needs a whooping.
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He don't listen. Yeah, he do not listen.
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I think that whole Messiah thing going a little bit to his damn
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head. You need to listen.
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Even if you the Messiah a Sir, you can still get bit.
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I don't. Want to say I don't, I don't
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want to say is going to his head because the first part of the
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episode that we see where it looks like he's just like
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praying and they're going around him.
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That was like a a dream or vision Daryl was having.
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But I instead of it going, you know.
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That Devin made true because when he got to the Eiffel Tower
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he hiding under a little. Bar right, right.
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But I think instead of him it going to his head, I just think
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I think he's gotten to the point where it's overwhelming him and
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he's just like, this is too much.
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It's too much to do. Then here come the people with
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the guns coming in shooting. This is from the last episode.
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You know, you find out. I guess at some point he really
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realized that Isabel was his aunt because you never hear him
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mention it up until the last episode, or more specifically
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until this episode. So I just think everything was
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coming at him and he was just like, I need to get away.
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But come on, Sir. You are in the middle of a
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zombie apocalypse in Paris in a city you have never been in.
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This is not the time for you to go.
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And oh, I've, I've always wanted to see the Eiffel Tower.
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My mother used to say bra bra. And be and you.
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And you already know how I feel about peeking through little
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holes. And.
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You. You.
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Now you're scared of the zombie. Now you scared?
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So I think what it was, he wasn't expecting that zombie to
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look back at him. That was kind of weird because
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you know, we've been talking about with this show how we've
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been seeing all the different types of, of new quote, UN
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quote, new walkers and stuff like and Daryl's, you know that.
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There are variants. I know, I know.
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But I mean, I don't even know if we can call them variants
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because we've seen these types before.
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You know, I know that was the very, that was the term that
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they used at the end of the main show.
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But we've seen these types before.
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We've seen walkers climb steps and climb and turn door knobs
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and all this other stuff. But for the sake of argument,
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for the sake of this show, we will say they are kind of
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variants. But when he looked through that
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hole and that one was like, would you look in that girl?
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I was like. And then my question is, OK,
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yeah, it looked through and saw him.
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So does that now mean that don't mean you could hear him just
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'cause you see him doesn't mean you can hear him, 'cause they
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don't communicate to each other like, oh, I see somebody.
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But then of course, right when he sees him, all the walkers
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start turning around and then that's when they start busting
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out the side. Right.
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But you had no reason to because there was no noise that would
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have drawn you out. You know what I mean?
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They they they really didn't have any reason to not remain
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within the space that they were in.
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You're right, I don't understand it because it's it's like the
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only other thing I could think of is that maybe they smelled
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him when he walked up, but I'm like he wasn't bleeding so it's
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not like they would smell blood or do we even know if they can
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smell like? Right.
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And we haven't, we haven't had that So right.
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And a lot of times I feel like the noise that people make,
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sometimes the noise they should be walkers there.
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And sometimes the noise I'm like, that could have been a
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leaf, like how you turn me. We had that conversation with a
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dead city, remember? They came out the building and
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they scuttled away, I said. So those walkers didn't hear
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that door closed. Yeah, that's a lot of noise.
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But then sometimes they barely move and I'm like, that could
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have been a dog or something. I mean, like the the natural
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noise of the world and you turn. Yeah.
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But it was because it's like I would have expected them to come
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straight through at first, not the one that's coming from the
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side. Because why are y'all even aware
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that he is there? He wasn't making a lot of noise.
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He didn't say anything. And I really doubt if they just
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heard him go when he saw like right.
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I, I don't know, some, some of the things that I've noticed
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with the shows as far as the behavior of either certain
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characters or the way that they have the walkers behaving, they
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don't seem consistent. And I don't know if that's on
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purpose for us to say, OK, you think you know what was going on
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and you think you know what to expect.
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But they're throwing us a curveball saying, OK, this is,
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you know, nothing is predictable 'cause other than that it makes
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no sense for them to come from the sides to try to get him.
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And the one that the one that bent down and looked up under
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the thing when he was hiding up under it like he's up under
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there, right. Yeah.
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It just. But then that also leads to
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wonder, cause remember when after Darryl fell through the
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roof and he got out, remember he was walking up the stairs of
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somebody playing the cello? There was another couple in an
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apartment next door. They was just talking regular,
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like he saw walkers down below. But like you have a long loud
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stream of music 'cause if nothing else, go back to the
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orchestra with the man with the zombie orchestra.
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All the noise he was making and he started drawing walkers.
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But you playing the whole concert in your living room and
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the people across the hall is chilling and making, you know,
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being lovey dovey all out and no walkers.
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Not the only thing I can think of is that the music that she
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was playing was soothing. And they probably if if she's,
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if she plays it regularly, it's probably something that they, I
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don't know, ignore, which again, doesn't make sense because
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that's not how we've known walkers to behave.
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But even even in the water, when Darrell was in the water, we
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know walkers can't swim. Why are you under underwater
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grabbing his feet? That made no sense to me.
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And then when he went, this was the thing with the water when he
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they was floating, but then when he stabbed and they started
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thinking when you go up, when your body rise, you wouldn't
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sink down. So the only thing I can think of
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is because this is France, and because this seemingly was where
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either it started or where they were working on things, or
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because they've been experiment, whatever the case may be, maybe
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their walkers are different and behave differently.
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Because other than that, I mean, even with the other stuff that
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we've seen from the first episode when Daryl was traveling
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cross country by himself, you would think he would have picked
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up a couple of stragglers following him.
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You can't tell me the whole country is is empty of walkers.
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And even when he was walking above on that bridge and you saw
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the little walkers down below, they would have heard him.
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Those were rocks he was walking on.
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They would have done something to kind of like heard themselves
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trying to figure out what this noise was.
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It's, it's just that we've seen the, the walkers we've seen in
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this particular show, they act so different and maybe it's on
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purpose. Maybe they're saying, hey, you
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think you know everything about the walkers, but you don't.
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Just like with the burning walkers, we talked about that
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first episode, the fact that you can kill these walkers, but if
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they grab you, they're burning you.
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Like we we've definitely never seen that before.
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Michelle, what was that eye row? That's all it.
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Because I'm thinking about it and I'm like, I, I can't, I
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can't see it. They just have to have the
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foundations have to be the same, but the variance of how the
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walkers act can be different because it just can't be like,
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I'm a, like I'm a scientist. I got a PhD.
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It just can't be completely different.
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But as long as we got the same thing, we're sensitive to sound.
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We have our motivation is just eat, but everything else can be
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different. It can be because I'm hoping
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that if I go to Australia, the walkers are going to be
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different there because it has adapted to their body to be.
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Different. I need them to be the same type
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of walkers I'm used to, so I know how to heal to handle them.
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I don't need burning walkers. I don't need walkers that can.
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Well, I mean, we saw this with Dead City 2, the walkers that
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are coming out of second and third story apartments and
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splatting on the ground. But you're not splatting hard
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enough for your brain, no. That was in this one, too.
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Remember when they went to Isabel's apartment?
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Yeah. That's what I'm lacking too.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying, because they walking towards the
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the noise and they don't get, you know that they going to
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fall. But yeah.
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But if you fall from 2310 stories technically.
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Speaking, your body should splat.
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Yeah, but it depends on how you fall how you fall.
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Like if you go feet first. Not necessarily.
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Your brain could still be intact enough to be a Walker, it's just
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that you gonna be like sliding and not crawling.
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The Walking, however, I still feel like it's it's also due to
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the research too, because there's no way for a Walker to
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be a burning Walker. Like there's nothing in the
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atmosphere, nothing in the environment that you turn into a
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Walker that can burn someone. So they like they had to be
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doing some. Experiments or something?
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Right. Why would we ever?
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Get the answer though, will we? I mean, I don't know if you
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think about it, when what's his name went to go find Madam
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Janay, we saw that she was doing some kind of experimentation on
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some walkers. And I'm not sure what it was
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they were trying to do. But like after what was it 16
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seconds, the Walker just kind of, I don't even know how to
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describe what it did. It's almost like it started
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panicking and it ran towards the the window and splat it open.
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So that could have something to do with those experiments.
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Maybe they have more more locations where they're doing
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the experiments. So I mean, maybe they.
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Had to do. Go ahead.
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Now I was going to say, maybe it had to do with maybe they tried
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a cure at the beginning and the cure just didn't work the way
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they thought it would. And that was probably maybe a
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side effect. My thought would be if if that's
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what they're. Doing they, they in order for
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that to work? Because there's, it seems as
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though they're trying to have controlled experiments, right?
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Yeah. So how would all of the walkers
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like that were in the market that Darrell first came across?
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How would they get infected enough to burn?
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Or maybe that's why there are no people around.
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Maybe they did something chemically, you know, to that
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area. That.
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Affected me once they died of course, but we we don't know we
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could have been bombed kind. Of like in the states where
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they, they did the nuclear attacks, right, Right.
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Maybe they tried to do something chemical.
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'Cause that could be 'cause they did say they bombed Paris, but
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that could be, you know, if, if it was a chemical attack, why
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there are no people around, right?
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There's still grass and vegetation.
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But regardless. So there are, yeah, but not
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much. Not much.
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True, there's no people around, but the walkers that were
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dormant that awakened once Darrell came out had died
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effectively from whatever bomb was bombed.
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That's just a theory. Yeah, that could be a combo.
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It could be the bomb and they took something beforehand and it
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had a chemical reaction to make them burning.
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Something similar to what the CRM was doing.
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Remember in Omaha Remember they were doing some experiments and
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something got out of hand and they ended up bombing.
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So it could be something similar.
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I mean, they could use it in the gas and then the medication
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that's already in your system has a reaction and then your
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blood or what your whatever it is, it's oozing is right, You
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know, right, Cox? Look, either way it goes,
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Laurent don't need to be trying to go off on his own while all
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of this stuff is going on and why he was looking for him.
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Well, I was gonna I was gonna say something when you said
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that. So again, we have to give him
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that he has not been out in the world and that he is emotionally
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immature. Uh huh.
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He doesn't know that he he needs to completely listening.
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Immature is the words we're using like he's a OK what age
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did we say he was again? We keep probably around 13 ish.
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He's 13 ish but has like the mental capacity of A because
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he's been sheltered. I'm sorry but he is not too
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sheltered enough to know while you read in the Bible to Father
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whatever the hell his name was. He in the room behind the door,
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'cause he had the door doing this and trying to get you.
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Right, but he got made it, so they made it so they made it.
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Well, you didn't be afraid. They made him not afraid.
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He know these things can kill him.
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He know if he get close enough, 'cause you saw how far back he
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was standing when he was reading that.
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God damn Bobby, he was over there.
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Yeah, but he's not afraid though.
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But he's not afraid. I wouldn't be afraid if it was
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the door either. But you see, he got afraid here
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and under that goddamn board at the Eiffel Tower.
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Yes, he couldn't he couldn't control.
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He couldn't control his environment, however.
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But it's like emotionally immature that that too.
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But also it's like. You see these people are coming
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in and if you have enough foresight, like again, we still
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don't know what the deal is really with this kid.
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We just know that he seems to have heightened sensitivities
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and he can tell when some shit is about to pop off.
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If you knew people were coming with guns and you kind of felt
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like they were coming because of you or because of your aunt or
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whatever, wouldn't you be worried enough about your aunt
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to not run off to stay and see if she's OK?
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I mean, and again, I, I get it, he sheltered, He does not have
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the proper 1, he doesn't have the proper social skills, but
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two, he also doesn't have the correct fight or flight reflexes
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that most people would have. But it's like, do you know that
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they kept you safe for a reason, regardless of whether you agree
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with that reason or not, or you think that that is the case,
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which all indication kind of points to him knowing that
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they're treating him like a Messiah.
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And he is kind of reluctant about it, but he's accepting of
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it. So you should already know in
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some sense how to behave, because they have been
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protecting you, but they have been protecting you with a
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purpose. But he ain't no dumb boy.
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He figured out Quintus, his dad. He figured that out right?
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So he can't he he not allowed to be.
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Naive on selectively naive, yes, but then but that's kids,
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though, you know, sometimes they can they can pick up on subtle
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things that we think that we're hiding from them.
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But then sometimes they do things and you be like, oh, I
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forgot you are a kid. And that's what's just that is
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what's happening is that eating because we're not used to this
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type of kid. OK, all our other this is true.
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I'll give you that all our other kids can run stuff.
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They can run shit and take care of a whole community and.
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Even the ones who, yeah, because I was going to say, because even
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the ones that we wouldn't say can run stuff like, let's say a
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Herschel or a Gracie, they still have enough sense.
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To know what the laws. Do, but they've also been
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trained in that, so it's kind of different.
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But he hasn't. Leave him alone.
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He hasn't. What?
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Look, don't get on Gracie. Gracie didn't know to stay at
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the damn basement. She made one mistake.
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Oh, my God. I'm saying she made one.
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She was panicking. There was a lot going on.
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There was a storm. There were walkers.
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So yeah, but. But you know, I with his, with
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his circumstances and everything that's going on around him, it's
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like at some point you have to have the common sense, like
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common sense is not taught. That is something that is
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basically like you look at it and you know.
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What you're supposed to do, what you're not supposed to do.
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I'm not saying he's supposed to have it in spades, but there are
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certain things that he should know.
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And one of the things is you don't run off in the middle of a
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city that you are not familiar with when people with guns are
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chasing you especially. Even the guns, the.
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Walkers right I. Don't even talk about the
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people. But you but the thing.
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OK, but here's the thing, human. Threat.
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But with the walkers, at least the walkers are, as Michelle
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said earlier, they're single minded.
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If they see him walking, they're going to follow him.
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If he can run and get away from them or hide, they're not going
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to say, oh, where did that boy go?
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They're just going to keep walking.
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With actual live people, with or without guns.
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These people can see things. They can calculate.
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They can. They can, you know, they can
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make adjustments for, oh, he was right here, but he's not OK Do
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we need to go left? Do we need to go right?
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They have that deductive reasoning.
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So, yeah. And we've said this with the
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other show, with all of the other shows, the people are the
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real monsters in these situations, not the walkers.
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The walkers, yeah, you might get afraid, you might panic.
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But at some point you can look at the walkers and and look at
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what you're doing and how they respond to it and say, OK, well,
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if I do this, they're going to keep coming after me.
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But if I hide behind this building over here and don't
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move, they'll just ignore me and go past you.
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At least had can have that kind of common sense.
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People know because people are actually living, breathing,
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thinking things. And he should he should, he
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should have had a better response, especially after what
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happened at the Abbey. Like, you know, these are the
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same people who came after you there.
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So if you know this and you understand this still with the
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one mother fucker who've been killing everybody, first thing.
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And if nothing else, he knows enough.
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He knows that they think he's the savior.
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He knows that even in knowing that, you should know the people
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who are around you who are trying to protect you.
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And you can't just naively wander streets, talk to people,
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go up to people. There are people who don't want
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you to them moving you from place to place to place, trying
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to get you. They know you.
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Laurent knows that they are trying to get him to the nest.
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They know the nest is safe. So in in, in your tracing to get
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to the nest, why would you do anything to jeopardize the
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people who are getting you there?
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That and that that's my thing. Like even if you were upset and
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again, I am thinking 13 year old boy, emotionally immature or
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emotionally not, you know, not mature enough.
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I would say you overheard this conversation with your aunt and
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with Daryl, and you took whatever hurt emotions you have
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from that. You would still think that he
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would at least at some point, maybe after an hour or two of
00:23:51
cooling off. Remember, this happened that
00:23:53
night. He was at Paris during the day.
00:23:55
So several hours have passed. At some point, you should have
00:23:59
stopped and thought about what you were doing.
00:24:02
Like, oh, wait a minute, is my aunt OK?
00:24:05
Oh, are, are all these other people OK?
00:24:08
Even if you're pissed that your aunt and aunt Daryl, you have
00:24:12
all of these other people who have made it known that they
00:24:16
depend on you, that they are looking to you for inspiration.
00:24:20
You just going to leave them there with the people with the
00:24:22
guns, knowing that the people with the guns I'm looking for
00:24:25
either you or Daryl like. And it's and it's not like they
00:24:30
being quiet about the fact they looking for Daryl.
00:24:32
Everybody know they looking for the American American.
00:24:36
If nothing else. You say you care about Daryl.
00:24:40
Why would you do anything that's going to driven doesn't?
00:24:42
Yeah, but I mean, again, we just have to chalk it up.
00:24:47
I I have to be emotionally immature 13 year old.
00:24:50
Yeah, but we do. I'm sorry.
00:24:54
And really 13, but maturity wise I would say still like 9.
00:25:01
Yeah. Because of being sheltered.
00:25:04
Yeah. Completely shelter growing.
00:25:06
Up in a normal world, right? So have the normal responses so.
00:25:12
Like Judith at 13 was 27, yes, but he's like, he's backwards.
00:25:21
So you know when he's mad, he's running off.
00:25:25
He's not thinking about. He's not thinking about how this
00:25:29
hurts other people. He's not thinking about that.
00:25:31
But I also unfortunately blame the adults because you are not
00:25:37
telling him the the the severity of you wandering off and.
00:25:44
That's the whole issue. That has not even with the
00:25:48
walkers, these people are trying to catch you.
00:25:51
So like when he got in the car when you know, old boy had my
00:25:54
car, he wasn't even trying to get up time.
00:25:55
He's like Darryl, like we're going for a ride.
00:25:59
What? No, he was expecting Darryl to
00:26:02
be able to knock out all of these people and then come get
00:26:05
him. But yeah, I I feel.
00:26:07
Like they don't hurry up and give Darryl a crossbow.
00:26:09
I'm I'm so tired of this, the little stick with the little one
00:26:12
thing on it. I'm so tired of it.
00:26:14
I need my my guy to have a a a a a bow and arrow.
00:26:18
They they they can't give Daryl a bow and arrow because then
00:26:21
this would only be a 2 episode because he'd have killed
00:26:27
everyone. Like, like when they kill the
00:26:31
pigeon dude at first when when he when he threw his knife at
00:26:39
the first guy, it kind of threw me off because I was like, wait,
00:26:44
where did that come from? I'm like, oh, nice.
00:26:47
But yeah, I mean, you get Daryl Crossbow.
00:26:51
Most of these folks would have been over and done with, period.
00:26:55
But we have to see. I mean, I think one of the
00:26:58
things about this show is it is exploring Daryl more thoroughly
00:27:04
as a character and kind of opening up so that he's not just
00:27:08
this one-dimensional or two-dimensional character.
00:27:11
We're seeing other aspects of him.
00:27:13
And you know, the the crossbow is very much an extension of who
00:27:18
he is. Like you almost never see him
00:27:20
without it. And we know that his weapon of
00:27:23
choice besides the knives. But again, different country,
00:27:29
different walkers, different rules.
00:27:32
So you got to show him be able to adjust, unlike Laurent.
00:27:38
But you know, Daryl has way more experience because again, this
00:27:42
is like 1314 years after the fact.
00:27:47
Daryl has had time to make those adjustments.
00:27:49
I mean, think about it. When we first met Daryl,
00:27:52
technically speaking, he was also an emotionally stunted
00:27:57
adult because of everything he had been through.
00:28:00
And it's because of the people that he's had around him and the
00:28:03
things that he has seen and learned and, you know, grown to
00:28:07
care for that we see him evolve into this person.
00:28:10
Laurent could very well become a person like that.
00:28:13
But he's going to have to have people, I hate to say it, like
00:28:17
Daryl around him because Daryl is the one person who is not
00:28:21
trying to not trying to shelter him.
00:28:25
He's not sugar coating anything for him.
00:28:28
He's letting him know, OK, these are the things that you're going
00:28:30
to have to do. And you know, there are bad
00:28:33
people who would do this. And he's basically doing
00:28:36
everything for Laurent in the short time they've been together
00:28:40
that Isabel and the sisters should have been doing from
00:28:44
start. Like, I understand you want him
00:28:48
to try to have as normal a childhood as he can given the
00:28:54
circumstances of his birth, given the circumstances of the
00:28:57
world and everything, But you can't shield him to the point
00:29:02
where if he steps outside your door is dangerous because you
00:29:05
won't always be there to protect him.
00:29:08
You see that there's only two nuns left from the entire Abbey.
00:29:13
Y'all can. Y'all aren't going to be able to
00:29:15
protect him the whole time at. All.
00:29:19
I mean, even in at the end of this episode, Laurent is going
00:29:22
in One Direction while Sylvia's in another and Isabel is in
00:29:26
another because Isabel is going to go back to Quinn to try to
00:29:30
make sure that Laurent and Daryl can get away.
00:29:33
So you've basically left this child that you have raised from
00:29:39
birth that you have sheltered, protected and not given the
00:29:46
proper tools or knowledge to go out into the world as it is.
00:29:52
But now you've left him with someone who, yes, Daryl has
00:29:55
helped John, he's become a friend.
00:29:57
He's, you know this, but technically speaking, Daryl is
00:30:01
still a stranger, not to mention the guy who's who's running the
00:30:06
boat. So you've done all of this for
00:30:10
this child just to send him off with two strangers?
00:30:14
Like, make it make sense. It doesn't.
00:30:19
Make sense to her? No, it doesn't, because even
00:30:22
Darryl was like, get your ass in the bowl, what are you doing?
00:30:26
But I mean, I hate to say Darryl is used to this.
00:30:29
I was thinking about this watching this episode.
00:30:33
I was like, why said that Darryl is the one who's always getting
00:30:36
left, getting left with the kids, but some kids.
00:30:38
But always. Darryl is all Darryl is the one
00:30:42
who's going to give it to him straight.
00:30:44
Even when Judith was a little one, he's going to give it to
00:30:47
him straight and say, OK, this is what we're doing.
00:30:50
This is why he's not going to sugar coat it because he knows
00:30:55
that sugar coating can kill those kids.
00:30:58
I mean, you think about, you think about the kids that we
00:31:01
have lost in this show, the Lizzie's, the the Mika's, you
00:31:07
know, those two kids, especially those two kids because people
00:31:12
weren't being truthful with them about what was going on.
00:31:16
That Carol tried, she tried to be a little bit, she tried not
00:31:22
to be so in your face with it. But like Lizzie's whole thing
00:31:28
was a little bit different because it's already hard enough
00:31:33
trying to deal with somebody with mental health issues or
00:31:37
someone who's different in a regular world.
00:31:40
Now you're trying to do it in a zombie world and where things
00:31:44
don't make sense to y'all, it makes sense to her.
00:31:47
So it's kind of hard to, to be honest.
00:31:51
At that point, you intentionally weaponize the kids.
00:31:55
Yeah, but also at the same time, what happened when you
00:32:00
intentionally weaponize those kids?
00:32:02
One of them took that knowledge and applied her own skewed way
00:32:07
of thinking and ended up killing her sister and was about to kill
00:32:12
Judith because something in her brain told her that they would
00:32:15
come back and they would still be who they are.
00:32:19
So is it's, it's, it's a weird thing.
00:32:24
I mean, and trying to trying to balance that with what you
00:32:29
should tell the kid, what you shouldn't tell a kid.
00:32:32
Unfortunately there's, I think in this kind of situation, there
00:32:36
really is no right or wrong way to do it.
00:32:39
You know, for the most part now there is a wrong way you, if you
00:32:42
don't tell the children what the danger is, that's wrong.
00:32:47
But if you also teach those children that, oh, everybody who
00:32:51
comes after, who comes towards you, that's a danger, you just
00:32:54
need to kill them. And kind of like what, what's
00:32:57
her name Michelle's friend was doing or kind of like what the
00:33:02
people at Padre were doing. It's kind of like 1 extreme to
00:33:05
the other, right? They need to find a balance,
00:33:09
especially, especially when it comes to the kids.
00:33:13
Yes, they need to be knowledgeable about what the
00:33:15
fuck is going on, but they also need to be smart and have some
00:33:18
fucking common sense. Right, They do to like just just
00:33:22
in case people get separated they can handle themselves for
00:33:27
till someone can get to them, right?
00:33:31
Right and but we even said or I even said that then with the
00:33:34
whole prison thing, when that whole prison thing happened,
00:33:37
like y'all needed to have a better plan, like they lived in
00:33:41
a. World.
00:33:42
Where they thought right, they lived in a world where they
00:33:45
thought nothing bad whatever happened we found in prison, we
00:33:48
made it safe like they didn't have a plan if something goes
00:33:52
bad because yes, they had very you know, especially during the
00:33:56
time jumps, those were periods where nothing bad happened.
00:34:00
You know, that's that's how we were able to get our time jump
00:34:02
because nothing significant happened.
00:34:04
So let's jump time. But during this jump time, are
00:34:08
y'all putting plans in place? Are you having where if this
00:34:13
happens, this is what you do? They did once they got to
00:34:16
Alexandria. So when the Whisperers came,
00:34:19
they were hiding in sewers, but it took the prison for that to
00:34:24
happen. You know what I mean?
00:34:25
When that's one of those things in the beginning, like, yeah,
00:34:28
OK, great, we found a safe place.
00:34:30
But if we have to leave, if we have to run, if somebody comes
00:34:33
and try to take this for their own, this is what we need to do.
00:34:36
Which is crazy because they had to evacuate the prison once
00:34:40
before because of the governor. They left the prison, he came
00:34:45
in, thought that they had left and then they came back.
00:34:48
So you would think that when they came back, they would have
00:34:53
a different plan, but I guess they really didn't think the
00:34:57
governor was going to come back and do what I that's a whole
00:35:00
other thing. Because that whole, the whole
00:35:02
way that that that was handled, I think was kind of, I think
00:35:07
that was one of the things that where Rick had to learn to be a
00:35:12
different Rick because technically speaking, the
00:35:17
Governor probably should have been dead way before all of that
00:35:19
happened. But that's neither here nor
00:35:21
there. Listen.
00:35:21
But you know, Michonne had been going out there trying to kill
00:35:23
his ass, so we knew that. Yeah.
00:35:27
But then even she got complacent.
00:35:29
Where? OK, I've gone.
00:35:31
I've searched. I can't find them.
00:35:32
We good now? Her and her show out outside the
00:35:35
gate. Strip me picking berries and
00:35:37
collecting bodies and shit. Right?
00:35:39
And now we lose him. Yeah.
00:35:41
You know, so you still should have had something in place in
00:35:46
my mind that if shit go down, if shit go bad, 'cause like me and
00:35:52
my kids, you know, we all watch The Walking Dead.
00:35:54
We had that said shit, if something go down and we, not
00:35:57
everybody meet at the house, like we'll figure it out.
00:35:59
Yeah, make it home. No matter what's going on, make
00:36:02
it home. And from there, so you like, you
00:36:04
have to have these things like, if nothing else, make it to the
00:36:07
house. We can figure it out once we get
00:36:09
there. Right.
00:36:10
And, and like, even with with this, Izzy searched for Laurent
00:36:15
all night, but when she couldn't find him, what did she do?
00:36:18
She went back to her old apartment in Paris.
00:36:21
Daryl figured out where she would go and he went there.
00:36:24
Now of course, because Laurent did not grow up in Paris, he
00:36:29
probably wouldn't have known how to get there even if they had
00:36:31
said OK, if something happens and we get separated, this is
00:36:34
where you go to the last place. He wouldn't have been able to
00:36:38
find that anyway. But there still should have been
00:36:41
some kind of plan, you know, like you said, because with a
00:36:46
resistance group such as where, where they were, they should
00:36:53
have all had plans. Because anytime you have that
00:36:56
type of resistance and you have a dictatorship, you're never
00:37:00
safe. So you should always have a a
00:37:04
backup plan or somewhere else to go just in case something like
00:37:09
that happens. But as it is, you just you just
00:37:11
sitting there answering questions for this woman and
00:37:14
trying to be defiant while she taking your screaming baby and
00:37:17
you sitting there looking like and she about to kill this
00:37:19
child. Cause the way that baby was
00:37:24
screaming Madison a was a little too.
00:37:27
She was a little too calm and I was like she about to kill this
00:37:31
baby. And why I said to Lord she gonna
00:37:34
bring the baby, Nick. But.
00:37:38
Yeah, I just baby killer. Yeah, but OK, we're going to
00:37:44
come off the runt for a little bit.
00:37:45
Let's let's go to some of the other stuff that we that we had
00:37:49
in this episode. So I realized it's the zombie
00:37:56
apocalypse. I realized this man is probably
00:37:59
taking care of you for the last however many years.
00:38:02
But ain't no way I'm going to sit here and just let you be
00:38:06
planning to bring your ex-girlfriend back into my
00:38:09
house. What?
00:38:14
What he? Said what he said.
00:38:16
He did. You know what?
00:38:20
He was making that space for her.
00:38:22
It was always for her. He didn't know whether or not
00:38:25
she was dead or alive, but that was always meant for her 'cause
00:38:31
when when he asked goodnight for the painting and she was like
00:38:35
why you ask for painting, He was like, it ain't for you.
00:38:41
Right. But my thing is, you're sitting
00:38:44
here. You have been distant with this
00:38:47
woman ever since Isabel walked her ass into your club.
00:38:51
You have been snarky to her, you have been nasty to her.
00:38:55
But you going to give her a loaded gun and tell her to go,
00:38:59
to go guard your son? Really.
00:39:03
Really. He would have been shot.
00:39:09
It's not like anybody would have she.
00:39:10
Ain't no baby killer. She's not a baby killer.
00:39:15
She's not what what LeBron say you have?
00:39:18
No, she was nice. She.
00:39:20
Want nobody to know? Yeah, you know, I'm nice too,
00:39:26
but in the zombie apocalypse, in that kind of situation.
00:39:30
You is not about to. We done lived and had this great
00:39:33
little mini baby and you gonna bring your little ex baby Mama
00:39:36
in? We can be Patty, we can be Patty
00:39:39
not. Even the ex baby Mama, the ex
00:39:41
baby Mama sister look right girl.
00:39:48
You the nerve to to talk to Laurent and act like oh he was
00:39:57
he was going to be the best daddy in the world.
00:39:59
You was trying to leave the girl behind because you knew she was
00:40:03
pregnant and you knew it was you.
00:40:07
You was trying to leave her behind to her own devices and do
00:40:11
whatever just so long as you can get easy out the way.
00:40:15
Speaking of which, what what Isabelle got going on because
00:40:19
this is been 1314 years. This man is still pining for
00:40:23
her. What like.
00:40:26
Because because I mean, OK, first of all, you already know,
00:40:33
OK, the pickings are slim. And he has had some women and
00:40:40
realized Oh my come on if I see my ex boy any problems?
00:40:47
Which is crazy if you think about Isabel's background before
00:40:52
all of this happened. I mean, the the dude that was in
00:40:56
the episode that Daryl was basically beaten and torturing,
00:41:01
he basically gave the rundown and we saw this in what was it?
00:41:06
The the second episode. Like Izzy was a party girl.
00:41:10
She was a drug addict. She was she was a hustler.
00:41:15
It's. Very and he missed that
00:41:18
challenging. She was challenging.
00:41:20
You never knew what she was going to get someday.
00:41:24
It was like one day she may be slashing her wrist, the next day
00:41:28
she on top of the world. He loved that life.
00:41:31
These chicks are born up in this apocalypse.
00:41:35
I want my woman back, I guess. She's.
00:41:39
My woman, and she made it. Yeah.
00:41:44
That's a true love story. Right now she made it.
00:41:47
You left me in. The middle of you left me in the
00:41:49
middle of Paris, stole my car, left me standing in the middle
00:41:52
of the street. But ever since you left, I know
00:41:55
why you ran. I know, but your heart going to
00:41:58
bring. It back to me, baby.
00:42:00
And guess who? I did let you write back to me,
00:42:03
baby, right? And now I got to.
00:42:06
Make up her own R&B song 9 is R&B song quick.
00:42:11
Man, that bitch is bad. She made it.
00:42:17
We can. We can run this.
00:42:19
We can run here now. We can run it.
00:42:21
I. Can get you all the paintings
00:42:23
you want. Oh my goodness.
00:42:29
Me and me and Michelle saw the same story.
00:42:31
Yeah, I I see it. You see what I'm saying?
00:42:34
I see it. Y'all got the whole?
00:42:37
80s R&B jam going on with the talk with the talking intro and
00:42:41
everything. You just need to wait.
00:42:43
Look, where am I lighter? You just need a lighter.
00:42:48
The zombie apocalypse love story.
00:42:52
But OK, I got a little torch. Look, I know I got some matches
00:42:59
up here somewhere like a matchstick, but OK.
00:43:03
So Speaking of Madam Janay, so when she does go to, I can't
00:43:09
think of what the the place where the rebels were and she
00:43:12
starts talking to them. The one lady who was mourning
00:43:17
her husband, she's the one who has like the the lines in this
00:43:21
one. She's the one that's kind of
00:43:23
very belligerent. She's the one that's talking to
00:43:26
Madam Janay, like whatever Laurent's done, Laurent's here,
00:43:30
he's going to save us. And then she starts talking
00:43:32
about this story that she's heard about this boy who was a
00:43:37
miracle based on the details of his birth.
00:43:39
First of all, going around and telling people about Laurent's
00:43:44
birth. I mean I understand there is a
00:43:47
movement but y'all need to learn how to keep some shit.
00:43:52
Kill your damn self, right? Right, I mean, but they doing
00:43:56
good. We don't even have like TikTok
00:43:58
and Facebook. I mean, like, it's just, it just
00:44:00
gets some rain. But my thing is, if you are
00:44:04
supposed to be doing what you're doing to help protect this boy,
00:44:10
you don't think it's prudent to, like, keep certain details to
00:44:15
yourself. I mean, I understand you want to
00:44:18
tell the other rebels, give them something to, I don't know,
00:44:22
something to be inspired by, something to fight for, blah,
00:44:26
blah, blah. But if the enemy knows this
00:44:31
information, you don't think she's going to do whatever she
00:44:34
needs to try to do to eliminate that because she's trying to be
00:44:38
the one that's quote UN quote bringing hope to the people.
00:44:42
She's trying to unite everyone under 1 cause and she's yeah to
00:44:49
to bring France back. And if you have this Messiah
00:44:53
figure that's kind of out there, not only Messiah figure in the
00:44:58
form of a child that's that's going to interrupt her plans.
00:45:04
You don't think she's not going to try to do something about
00:45:07
that? Like, yeah, I need I, I don't, I
00:45:15
don't know what it is about these folks.
00:45:19
But again, it's like. They don't think danger, that's
00:45:24
what it is. They don't.
00:45:25
Nobody in this census danger. Right.
00:45:30
They don't have the sense at all.
00:45:32
You know, maybe this will endanger me in the future by
00:45:35
just rambling off at the fucking mouth.
00:45:38
Like a whole zombie apocalypse didn't tell you that you need to
00:45:42
be careful with stuff? Really.
00:45:47
And. Special information.
00:45:49
That's the thing that should have you worried.
00:45:51
Like, Oh yeah, that like seem like that'd be good.
00:45:57
Like you have this child and word has gotten around about
00:46:03
him, about his quote UN quote, miracle birth.
00:46:06
OK, here's the other thing, if you're going to talk about this
00:46:11
child, OK, do y'all really have to talk about the birth?
00:46:16
Who is giving out that information?
00:46:18
Because the only people who were there were the nuns.
00:46:21
And if this is such a big deal that you guys think you have to
00:46:25
protect him in the way that you have protected him since birth,
00:46:29
why are y'all telling people about this miraculous birth?
00:46:33
Because we know how it is with people who had that kind of
00:46:37
religious fanaticism. If there were enough people
00:46:40
around, they could have been like, oh, we need to go see the
00:46:43
miracle child. They could have led it just it
00:46:49
doesn't make sense that they would do that.
00:46:53
I just I don't understand it. No, it could have.
00:46:56
It could have also because I'm sure over time, like before,
00:47:01
Darrell got there and fucked everything up, I'm sure.
00:47:05
Darrell did not look. They was fine before he showed
00:47:08
up. Anywho, I'm sure that there were
00:47:11
people who went through the Abbey at points and time in
00:47:16
their travels because they don't look like they would be the type
00:47:18
of people who determine people who needed help away.
00:47:20
True. So I'm sure because he in 13
00:47:24
years, you know, people have when he was a baby, why isn't
00:47:28
there a baby here? Why is there a baby crying?
00:47:30
You know what I mean? Even if it's not meant to be
00:47:33
like gossipy, it's gossipy. Women are still women.
00:47:38
And even if they talking about it amongst themselves, hell, you
00:47:41
hear how people keep having camera conversations and people
00:47:43
around the corner hearing and shit.
00:47:45
So, you know, it's very, very possible that over the 13 years
00:47:51
people have been in and out of the Abbey, there's a little boy,
00:47:55
oh, you know, I heard there's a little boy here.
00:47:58
That little boy, his mom died. Whatever, whatever he, you know,
00:48:01
he's a miracle baby, basically. So I'm pretty sure that's how it
00:48:05
happened. Because you're right.
00:48:07
Because once Isabel got there, she became a nun and she was
00:48:11
there. So it it had to be people who,
00:48:14
like I said within their travels, made hit stops at the
00:48:17
Abbey because they wasn't turning nobody the hell away.
00:48:20
No, but there's just certain certain things that you don't
00:48:23
need to tell. Like you could say something
00:48:27
like, oh, his mom died giving birth to him, which was true,
00:48:32
but you don't have like saying that in and of itself just oh,
00:48:39
his mother died in childbirth. That would not be cause for a
00:48:43
quote UN quote miraculous birth. So.
00:48:46
Somebody might be apocalypse. They know people die.
00:48:50
I. Said they wouldn't even have to
00:48:52
say during childbirth. They know it's a zombie
00:48:54
apocalypse. They know people die.
00:48:56
Right. But I mean, even even if it
00:48:58
wasn't zombie apocalypse, she could have been staying there
00:49:01
seeking shelter before everything went down and gave
00:49:05
birth and died. So somebody within that Abbey
00:49:11
put out too much information. You don't have to say that this
00:49:15
is a miracle birth. You could have just been like,
00:49:17
oh, yeah, his mom was on the road.
00:49:19
She went into labor, came in, died.
00:49:23
And then because everything that was going on, we just kept the
00:49:26
baby because we had no, we had no next of kin.
00:49:29
We had no reference. The phones with whatever.
00:49:33
They could have made any kind of explanation and it would have
00:49:37
fit because of what was going on.
00:49:40
But for Madam Janae to hear something about a child who had
00:49:45
a miracle birth, that means that that story has gone around.
00:49:49
That means somebody from that Abbey leaked that story.
00:49:53
That old you know he was born. Nobody from the Abbey.
00:49:56
I just, I just don't. I do think it was a traveler,
00:50:01
you know, someone who who came across.
00:50:03
I don't think they was purposely putting out that information
00:50:06
because as hard as they trying to protect him, why would they
00:50:09
put that out there? It it it would make no sense.
00:50:11
But why would they even allow? Like even if a stranger was
00:50:15
there, why would a stranger have access to the information that
00:50:20
it was a quote UN quote miracle birth?
00:50:22
That's the thing that's bothering.
00:50:24
Me. Yeah, they should.
00:50:25
Have a child was born at the Abbey, blah blah blah.
00:50:30
But the whole fact that you're using the word miracle birth, so
00:50:37
you are already saying that there was something very unusual
00:50:41
about the way this child was born.
00:50:45
And it's that unusual birth, that quote UN quote, miracle
00:50:49
birth that is giving everyone reason to feel like this child
00:50:54
is the next Messiah. You don't get that just from a
00:50:58
traveler saying, oh, there's a baby in the Abbey.
00:51:01
They can have baby. They could have had 10 babies in
00:51:04
the Abbey, but you wouldn't necessarily say all ten of those
00:51:07
babies are going to be the new Messiah.
00:51:09
Somebody open their mouth too much.
00:51:13
Somebody said something too much.
00:51:15
Someone let something slip. Because for Madam Janae to have
00:51:20
that kind of information or for it to be that kind of known
00:51:24
rumor amongst the rebels, Yeah, maybe.
00:51:28
Like I said, if you're using him as a figurehead, as you, if
00:51:31
you're using him as inspiration. OK, Yeah.
00:51:35
But for the other people, the people on the other side to have
00:51:39
that information, it just, it doesn't make sense because
00:51:44
you're literally pinning a target on his back for something
00:51:50
like that, especially when you have a person like Madam Janay
00:51:53
who is trying to get all of the power for herself.
00:51:58
But anyway so these I cannot remember what is the name of
00:52:06
this group? Hi Apollo, what is the name of
00:52:10
the group the the rebel group with Falu and Emil and all of
00:52:14
them OK but anyway. But anyway, so the rebel group
00:52:20
when Daryl and Isabel are trying to find a way to.
00:52:24
Be a Pope. I mean, yes, union of Pope.
00:52:28
When they are trying to find. Their Olivia Pope.
00:52:35
Union of Pope Oh OK yeah no if they had Olivia Pope in this it
00:52:42
it it would be a totally different show totally different
00:52:46
show. But when they're trying to find
00:52:48
a way to get back into Quinn's place, to sneak Daryl back in so
00:52:52
he can rescue Laurent, I was sitting there like, OK, you guys
00:52:59
are throwing all of these, these little Molotov cocktails and
00:53:04
you're shooting. You're in this small space.
00:53:07
You mean to tell me ain't nobody get hit except for a meal that
00:53:11
once on his leg? Every time they stepped out full
00:53:15
body to throw. Body.
00:53:18
I'm like, huh, nobody got hurt. Right, right.
00:53:23
Like what kind of training, what kind of security training are
00:53:26
y'all doing to these people in these communities?
00:53:28
They they, they was trying to see through the fire.
00:53:32
So that's what happened. Because you have what Falu Emil,
00:53:40
the one other guy, the one girl, and I think it was one other guy
00:53:45
was five of them. I think it was 5:00 on the other
00:53:48
side. So you mean to tell me all your
00:53:50
Molotov cocktails are are hitting?
00:53:53
Nothing is like really exploding, but one, those people
00:53:59
are still OK enough to be shooting at you, and two,
00:54:02
they're shooting at you in such a way that nobody gets hit until
00:54:06
you meet Emil gets that little skin graft on your head, really.
00:54:15
Not a skin graft. But I mean.
00:54:21
And then wait. And then he was like, after he
00:54:24
got shot, this department, he was like, no, we got to keep
00:54:26
going. They threw three more and left.
00:54:29
Like you act like it was a barrage of stuff coming.
00:54:33
Like, you know, we got to keep going.
00:54:35
We got to keep going. Don't stop because three you
00:54:38
threw 3 cocktails. My thing is for the.
00:54:41
Last two that was in the little container.
00:54:44
Right. Or the people who work on the
00:54:47
other side. Quince people, you have some
00:54:51
people shooting, y'all are literally only across one set of
00:54:57
train tracks. One or two of y'all could have
00:55:01
ran around to the side, hid behind the wall and it's like.
00:55:06
No, but they didn't know where they was hiding, so they want
00:55:11
to, you know, run out inadvertently and get shot.
00:55:14
It's it's, it's not like they had many, many choices.
00:55:17
It's not like they had many options.
00:55:20
I mean, literally you, you got the open space, you got the
00:55:23
little bit of wall. That's pretty much it.
00:55:28
I know, but I'm saying like still no.
00:55:32
No, no, just stop. Just stop.
00:55:38
No. I'm, I'm just saying I'm trying
00:55:41
to give him the benefit of the doubt.
00:55:44
No, there is not because I mean, you didn't want, you didn't have
00:55:50
much room to begin with. So y'all could have came out
00:55:56
over this track. And while Emil and all of those
00:56:00
people were kind of behind the wall, making some, you know,
00:56:03
light in the Molotov cocktails, y'all could have been right up
00:56:07
here, up against the wall. And then as soon as they came
00:56:11
out, y'all, y'all could just came across the corner, came
00:56:13
around the corner, Pew Pew, Pew. They were not thinking.
00:56:18
We are. We have already established.
00:56:20
Apparently they don't do a lot of that in this city.
00:56:24
Unless you're in the military, they ain't training you.
00:56:27
And even some of the stuff we see the military do is kind of
00:56:30
like the military. Ain't too sharp, especially if
00:56:34
some girl killed both of y'all in the first damn episode y'all.
00:56:37
You know what? Right, Right.
00:56:41
What kind of military is this? Just give me a gun, you know, so
00:56:44
you know a guy who know a guy. Oh, OK, you can have a gun.
00:56:48
I think part of the problem is they've all gotten complaints it
00:56:53
including Daryl. We said this was the first
00:56:56
episode. How you going to walk into a
00:56:58
warehouse and not check to see if there and the walkers in
00:57:00
there? And I mean, I get it.
00:57:02
He walked pretty much the whole half a countryside of France and
00:57:07
no walkers followed him. But again, complacency, stupid.
00:57:11
We see a lot of it, but I mean, it's not, and it's not even just
00:57:17
him. It's not just France.
00:57:19
We saw it in Dead City with Maggie and me or more so I would
00:57:24
say with Maggie, you know, as far especially like, I think the
00:57:28
first scene we see of her where she's across the water looking
00:57:33
into New Jersey and she's crying and, and the walkers come past
00:57:37
her and one of them grabs her leg and she starts like beating
00:57:41
on it, but she's screaming and making all this noise.
00:57:44
I'm like, did you not just see the herd?
00:57:45
They just walked past you. So it's like there's a lot of
00:57:50
there's a lot of complacency in, in these characters.
00:57:53
And I think because it's been so long that they just have gotten
00:57:58
to a point where they just aren't being as diligent with
00:58:01
everything. And it's it's starting to show
00:58:05
they're they're making very. Stupid ass decision.
00:58:09
Yeah, I was just saying stupid decisions, but it's.
00:58:14
Irrational. Irrelevant.
00:58:16
Irresponsible. There you go, girl.
00:58:18
Bring out the thesaurus. All of those decisions.
00:58:22
Not smart. Right.
00:58:26
It's like y'all. Haven't been in the zombie
00:58:28
apocalypse for 13 fucking years. Y'all act like y'all back on day
00:58:33
one and don't remember shit. Or they act like they know so
00:58:37
much and they're so familiar with it that they take it for
00:58:40
granted that they just going to be able.
00:58:42
To do basic shit. The the basic shit is the shit
00:58:45
you should never forget. Right, it should be natural.
00:58:48
Check in the room before you walk in like that's that's
00:58:51
zombie one O 1, right? Yeah, you know what I mean.
00:58:54
Knock on the wall, knock on the door, knock on something to say.
00:58:57
Hey, who's in here with me? Before you just go all Willy
00:59:01
nilly like Oh no one's home, let me go in and start moving shit
00:59:05
around. And then apparently zombies from
00:59:11
being dormant wake up and they're quiet as fuck because
00:59:13
you all hear them. You hear them a little bit
00:59:17
depending on where they are. Like if they're in a tunnel, you
00:59:20
hear them if they're. In the market you'll hear when
00:59:25
they coming up from being creeped with the Creek boards
00:59:27
and you, but you get up quiet and still and you don't hear
00:59:30
that. When it when there's a herd up
00:59:33
under the Eiffel Tower, you don't hear them.
00:59:36
Like I, no, no, no, I don't know.
00:59:40
And like I said, I just maybe it's that they want us to look
00:59:44
at these differently, but it's just it, it's kind of weird the
00:59:49
way that all of this is happening.
00:59:51
What? Are we supposed to be looking at
00:59:53
differently? I mean, just looking at things
00:59:56
from a different perspective. These are French walkers.
01:00:00
These are, you know, like I said, they're, they're
01:00:03
different. I, I don't, I don't know, cuz
01:00:06
other than that, I can't think of why they would change the
01:00:11
formula for lack of better words.
01:00:13
Like you said, we know, we know what walkers are, we know how
01:00:16
they behave, we know what they do.
01:00:18
We know how to kill them, we know how to lure them, we know
01:00:21
how to hurt them, all this other stuff.
01:00:23
But you see. Well, I won't even talk about
01:00:26
like Isabel and them because they're really not used to it.
01:00:29
But even with Daryl, like when Laurent gets taken, he's
01:00:35
standing there looking at the car.
01:00:40
Isabel is, she's got the one guy who's still alive on the ground
01:00:46
with the gun. But it's like all of a sudden
01:00:49
they don't have to worry about this warmer walkers coming
01:00:51
around them. They're just sitting there
01:00:54
taking a beat to realize, Oh my God, Laurent is gone.
01:00:57
You still got about 100 walkers that's in your background, but
01:01:01
none of them are coming near you at this point.
01:01:04
I mean, I realized they're. Trying to see what happened to.
01:01:09
I mean, I realize you got but that that one by that one live
01:01:17
body is only going to satisfied with you can probably only get
01:01:22
10 walkers right around them that that's actually going to be
01:01:26
able to get them. No, some of those walkers should
01:01:28
have still been attacking Darryl, but Darryl was just
01:01:30
sitting there looking at the car like.
01:01:33
Why he ain't smashed the little boy out is the real question.
01:01:37
Because you had his whole arm. All you do is one of these.
01:01:41
Well, I mean, somebody else was trying to grab Daryl from the
01:01:44
other side and he was trying to fight them.
01:01:46
So I so I kind of sort of get that, but I'm kind of like
01:01:49
Michelle at the beginning. Why the hell was a Little Rock
01:01:52
trying to get out the car at that point?
01:01:55
You turn around and look, Daryl, you see Daryl is trying to get
01:01:59
to you. Why are you not meeting him
01:02:00
halfway? So that, yeah, I like, I'm
01:02:09
trying to be understanding. I'm trying to be a little
01:02:14
patient with Laurent because, again, stunted emotional
01:02:19
intelligence, not really, you know, you know, not really
01:02:26
having been trained or taught that sort of thing.
01:02:30
I'm trying to be a little patient with him.
01:02:33
But this child is going to get Daryl killed.
01:02:37
And it's like, I know Darrell is not going to abandon this child.
01:02:44
And I know that that's in his nature now.
01:02:47
He he tries to help people, but don't you got some children
01:02:52
across the pond that you need to be trying to get back to you.
01:02:56
You need to be worrying about your.
01:02:57
Children who know better, right, right, right.
01:03:02
Who know better, right, 'cause when they say he say stay here,
01:03:08
I'll be back. What they do.
01:03:10
Say that Well, in all, Carl didn't most of the time, didn't
01:03:16
listen. To no fucking about it and
01:03:18
Charles is an exception to the rule and Carl?
01:03:22
Could could he? Wasn't left.
01:03:23
He wasn't left to Daryl's tutelage.
01:03:26
Only Daryl. He still had other.
01:03:28
Yeah, he. He's Lori's kid.
01:03:31
And Carl knew how to take care of himself.
01:03:33
Carl would not be, you know, yes, he had his moments where he
01:03:37
did some stupid shit, but yes, he did.
01:03:41
He learned from those he did because he didn't want to be
01:03:45
dependent on all the adults to take care of him.
01:03:47
He wanted to be looked at as a man like, oh, I can help protect
01:03:51
y'all too. So it's a little bit different.
01:03:54
But again, we we can't really compare those children to
01:03:57
Laurent because they have a different experience than than
01:04:01
Laurent has had. But at the same time, it's like,
01:04:06
who can we, can we just take Laurent and just go across, go
01:04:10
back to the States? Because obviously I and I know
01:04:14
he, he's your Messiah. God need him for whatever,
01:04:18
whatever. Can we take him across the pond
01:04:21
and let him get a little bit older, let him get a little bit
01:04:23
more? Figure some shit out.
01:04:26
Right. Let him learn more next season
01:04:29
he will. He's going to have to because
01:04:32
OK, so they've already today is like today is August 19th, I
01:04:40
think. So we've already had Comic Con.
01:04:43
We've already seen some of the season 2 preview stuff and we
01:04:47
will do a a reaction to the trailer and all of that at a
01:04:51
later date. Right now we're we're trying to
01:04:53
prep for Dragon Con. So that's taking a lot of our
01:04:56
time. But the actor who plays LeBron,
01:04:59
he is already the same height as Norman Reed is now.
01:05:04
Like you don't have to do a time jump or something in there
01:05:09
because this dude does not look like this same innocent 1213
01:05:14
year old in here. He looks like he's about 1617
01:05:18
now and can kick some butt. So I don't know what y'all about
01:05:22
to do with his character for season 2 or even if we're going
01:05:26
to see his character a lot because season 2 is the book of
01:05:29
Carol. We're going to get some Carol,
01:05:31
we're going to see some Carol. And I don't know how that
01:05:35
storyline is going to work. But y'all going to have to do
01:05:37
something with the right because he can't keep acting the way
01:05:42
that he is acting. And thinking he ain't going to
01:05:47
get fucked up. Right.
01:05:49
But also, y'all got to give. I hate to say y'all got to give
01:05:53
Daryl a reason. Well, I guess that would be a
01:05:56
reason for Daryl to stay because there was probably looking at
01:05:59
this kid like if I leave now, he's going to be dead within.
01:06:02
Three. Oh yeah, he's going to be dead
01:06:03
in 10 minutes. So he's like, OK, I maybe I
01:06:06
should stay and train him or teach him.
01:06:09
So that could be why Daryl decides to stay.
01:06:11
But right now I'm looking at Daryl like, excuse me, Sir.
01:06:14
You have your own responsibilities across the
01:06:16
across the pond. Yeah.
01:06:19
You don't handle your business them children's, right?
01:06:24
Because I think he said something.
01:06:27
I'm trying to remember if it was in one of these first few
01:06:30
episodes or if it was towards the end where he was like, yeah,
01:06:33
I'm thinking about the people I left behind, wondering if
01:06:35
they're still thinking of me. You really think they going to
01:06:38
forget about you after 15 years? Really.
01:06:40
Please stop playing. That's what we doing.
01:06:43
Please stop playing, I'm a need you to stop.
01:06:46
Because if anything, you know Carol, nothing.
01:06:48
Else you know Carol ain't ever going to forget about you.
01:06:51
Even when y'all wasn't speaking. She still came out in the woods
01:06:55
and found you and fucking dog, right you little matching
01:06:59
bracelets and everything. Right, so I'm, you know what I
01:07:04
need you to wrap up whatever it is over here that you wrapping
01:07:06
up, which of course we can't do now because he's on a boat about
01:07:10
to take Laurent to the nest. And the nest is wherever the
01:07:13
hell it is in France. But I I need you, do I need you
01:07:19
to figure this out and go home? Quickly you got some shit to do.
01:07:24
Lots of it. Plus, I still need to know if
01:07:26
that was Rick that Carol was talking about.
01:07:29
Rick is back on the radio, so I need you to go figure out who
01:07:32
who came back 'cause I need to know where all of these
01:07:35
Convergence stores are going. Holding out for everybody,
01:07:39
everybody waiting on you to get the news.
01:07:40
So funny, funny. Chop chop I.
01:07:44
Need you to get back to the States because also you got a
01:07:47
lot of explaining to do 'cause you know, once you tell
01:07:49
everybody where you've been, they're gonna be like, huh?
01:07:52
Fuck you, get to France. That happened, which I still
01:07:56
think the way that they did, it was very, very believable as far
01:08:01
as stories go, 'cause other than that, you couldn't have told me
01:08:05
that Daryl was going to be in France.
01:08:06
Daryl probably has never left Georgia.
01:08:09
That part. Up until he started traveling
01:08:12
with them, yeah. But Laurent.
01:08:17
Laurent. Laurent.
01:08:19
Whooping, whooping, whooping. Right, but I will say this too,
01:08:24
the fact that Isabel felt like she had to go back to Quinn so
01:08:28
that they could get away. Daryl was not feeling that.
01:08:32
I'm telling you, I still feel like they trying to throw a
01:08:35
little a little romantic vibe in there with them.
01:08:41
I, I feel like that I, I'm not either, but I feel, I feel like
01:08:47
I said, it's kind of like I kind of feel like his relationship
01:08:51
with Isabel for me, I will say this, for me, it's similar to
01:08:56
the one he has with Carol. Like I can see the kind of sort
01:08:59
of romantic undercurrent that that's there, but it feels more
01:09:04
like it should be a sibling type relationship.
01:09:10
But I almost feel like I see them pushing this one more than
01:09:14
I've ever seen them push the whole Carol and Darrell thing.
01:09:19
But even even even she said when the other nun, I can't think of
01:09:27
her damn name Sylvie, like yes, it when Sylvie was like when
01:09:32
after she had kissed the boy and she asked Isabel then and she
01:09:38
was like, no, that's just concern.
01:09:41
But but you really think she going to be honest and say,
01:09:43
yeah, I kind of like no, because half of them are saying, I mean,
01:09:47
think about it, Connie and Darrell say that about each
01:09:49
other. We know that there's some
01:09:51
interest there with those two characters.
01:09:54
So like I said, I don't I don't know if I feel like they're
01:09:58
going to push it, but it does seem like they're kind of making
01:10:01
that little suggestion like, oh, we're going to dangle this in
01:10:04
front of y'all and see how y'all take it.
01:10:06
But, and I don't know if it's that or if it's just that Daryl
01:10:10
just has that kind of way with the women on this show.
01:10:15
Because it's not like, I mean, people complain and say, oh, I
01:10:19
don't see this chemistry with this person, whatever.
01:10:22
But every person that Daryl has been with, there's always been
01:10:27
like an undercurrent of what could be flirtation.
01:10:31
And then there's the establishing of whatever.
01:10:34
Because the way that they wrote certain things, you could have
01:10:37
seen like a lot of people see it with Carol, a lot of people see
01:10:41
it with Connie. Some people saw it with Beth,
01:10:44
some people saw it with Rosita once they got to the
01:10:48
Commonwealth. Because I even with that I was
01:10:50
kind of looking like are y'all going to try to make them?
01:10:53
But no, that one was more so an establishment of like a brother
01:10:57
sister relationship. But those little hints and
01:11:01
suggestions are always there. But you can't be liking her.
01:11:06
I think they do that because, you know, it's it's so much.
01:11:10
Remember so much was going around about, oh, who's going to
01:11:13
be their love interest, Who, you know, who, who, who, who, who
01:11:16
that. I think they do that just to
01:11:19
keep people a little interested in it.
01:11:21
But we already know we don't want there with no goddamn body.
01:11:24
Yeah, 'cause he's not going to be with anybody.
01:11:26
If it ain't Connie, we good. Yeah, or anybody.
01:11:31
I mean, we he's just not. It's just not destined for him
01:11:34
to be honest. I and you know what?
01:11:36
I kind of feel like that too. Like.
01:11:40
Yeah, and it's OK. Or boyfriend because I know
01:11:43
there are some people who were like, Oh well, he they.
01:11:45
Were him and Jesus with? I think more so like with Aaron
01:11:50
and Eric. But even even with that, even if
01:11:54
that was the case, I don't need him to have a boyfriend either
01:11:57
that. Was just like, yeah, right.
01:12:00
That's what it, yeah. That's what it.
01:12:02
But I think that's also why I like his and Carol's
01:12:04
relationship because especially when they were at the prison,
01:12:07
all of the little fun stuff is kind of like, you can kind of
01:12:12
read it as them being flirty, but it's also like Carol is
01:12:16
making fun of him or just kind of putting it out there like, Oh
01:12:20
yeah, people think we're together, but no, we're not.
01:12:22
If, you know, it's it's one of those things where I just don't
01:12:27
feel like Daryl needs that and it's it's too complicated.
01:12:34
I mean, think about it. He had a whole year and a half
01:12:36
relationship with Leah and you see how that went so and.
01:12:40
He had to shoot her. It's right, Right.
01:12:43
So yeah, I just. I don't need to see it.
01:12:47
But the fact that she felt like she had to go back to Quinn, I
01:12:51
was just like, that was like. She did that on her own.
01:12:56
I think part of her want to see how that's gonna play out.
01:12:59
Unfortunately, yeah 'cause I'm sorry, all the stress and and
01:13:05
shit you going through to make sure LeBron gets to where LeBron
01:13:07
needs to get to and then at the end using them black.
01:13:10
Alright, you got it from here. What?
01:13:14
No, no, part of her still gave a fuck about Quinn.
01:13:20
Like at the end of the day, even though he wasn't shit, even
01:13:23
though he fucked her sister, part of her still gave fuck
01:13:28
about him. I think probably is more so
01:13:32
because they have a shared past. And it's not many people left
01:13:38
that you have one with. Yeah, especially her, because I
01:13:42
don't think she has anybody left because she was a stranger to
01:13:45
the convent. So aside from Quinn and her
01:13:49
sister and, you know, I think the little girl was the only
01:13:54
other person that we really saw she had a connection with.
01:13:56
And we already know what her fate is.
01:13:58
So, yeah, I can see it. And it's it, it was just kind of
01:14:03
weird when she walks in, because when she walks in the place and
01:14:07
what's her name, Anne is coming down the stairs.
01:14:10
She just kind of turns to look at Anne.
01:14:12
And she turns back around. Like, OK, I understand you as
01:14:15
woman, but I already know he wants me here.
01:14:18
I'm here. I'm just I got to make sure my
01:14:22
nephew is safe. Yeah, his son.
01:14:26
And it's almost like Quinn, Quinn expected her, because even
01:14:31
before he turned around, he felt her presence behind him.
01:14:35
Because you saw that kind of little smirk.
01:14:37
And then he turned around and looked like, What do we?
01:14:39
Have. Here, look at him.
01:14:42
I was just like, oh, this is about to be trouble, trouble,
01:14:49
trouble, because if Quinn don't give her give her a headache and
01:14:55
is about to and is about talk about a woman scorn.
01:15:02
But you know what? Maybe she won't be like that
01:15:06
towards Isabel. She'll probably be like that
01:15:09
more so towards Quinn, cause Quinn is the one who's like and
01:15:16
she get over right. And he's the one who apparently
01:15:19
is still like in love with her. Can't get over her.
01:15:24
I mean, and and literally brushing an to the side.
01:15:29
And I mean I. But Ann ain't gonna wonder where
01:15:31
you remember we in the middle of a zombie apocalypse.
01:15:33
I was just about to say he really doesn't have anywhere
01:15:36
else to go. That's why I was like I was her.
01:15:39
I just used the gun when his hench men come up and be like
01:15:42
what you do. He gave me the gun.
01:15:44
I. Didn't think she was gonna shoot
01:15:47
Daryl or or Lauren, no. No, I don't think so even.
01:15:52
Trying to prove a point. I'm not sure what the point was,
01:15:54
but hey, she was trying to prove it.
01:15:55
I think, I think she was trying to make it seem like, OK, so she
01:16:00
could go back to Quinn and say, well, I almost did.
01:16:04
I tried. But I think in that moment, she
01:16:06
was probably looking at Daryl like, you know, I know you're a
01:16:10
pain in his asshole right now, but you are really the answer to
01:16:14
my problems right now. Because what?
01:16:16
She said what? I look like a babysitter.
01:16:20
Right, like did he even tell her, oh, that's my son or was
01:16:24
that something she had to deduce just by the way he was acting
01:16:27
and stuff that he said? So yeah, he bout to have a
01:16:32
problem with that one. I think she's going to turn on
01:16:36
him. She'll be like, oh, you want
01:16:38
your old girlfriend back? OK, bet.
01:16:39
Let me go find one of your competitors or let me go find.
01:16:43
Let me go talk to Madam Janay and be like, hey Madam Janay,
01:16:48
what can I do for you? I can tell you now, he never had
01:16:51
the American and he had the boy he lied to you about.
01:16:56
I don't see her doing all that. I don't know now what it what is
01:17:00
it they say Hell hath No1 fury like a woman scoring, Yeah.
01:17:05
Right and. She is definitely a woman
01:17:07
scoring, so she might do it. She might be like, hey, Madam
01:17:13
Janae, you know, we don't. We don't really have a lot in
01:17:18
this world anymore where women are the leaders.
01:17:22
How about you do a sister solid? Yeah.
01:17:26
They will kill her first. You think?
01:17:29
Yes. I think Madam Janae would
01:17:31
probably use her as a spy, like, oh, OK, so you're here in
01:17:36
Quinn's thing. You know, if she if she were to
01:17:38
go to Madam Janay and say, yeah, he didn't have the American he
01:17:42
does have. He did have the boy and his
01:17:45
whole thing, is he trying to get his old girlfriend back?
01:17:48
What's your name? What else you need to know?
01:17:50
Madam Janay will probably use that, and I should probably kill
01:17:52
her later. But I think she would use that
01:17:55
because that's a valuable piece of Intel to have someone who's
01:18:02
there who supposedly is Quinn's. I guess she was the girlfriend
01:18:08
before he realized Isabel was that and then he just broke up
01:18:12
with her. But he just didn't tell her that
01:18:14
he broke up with her. I mean, I I would probably tell.
01:18:21
I will be singing like a Canary, like, oh, you want to know this?
01:18:25
Oh, here you go. Oh, he also has this many
01:18:27
weapons. He has money stash in this
01:18:29
place. Yeah.
01:18:30
What else? What else you want to know?
01:18:32
I just want to know. Help me get out of here and help
01:18:35
me help me ascend. I don't see why she would.
01:18:40
Right to the ground where she put you cuz she gonna kill her.
01:18:45
Madam Janae I think is one of those people.
01:18:47
She always got a motive and until once you have served your
01:18:51
purpose, I no longer need you. So she she would keep her around
01:18:55
for a little bit little minute, but after what she needs, it's
01:19:00
done. Oh, she gonna kill her, kill the
01:19:01
hell out of her. She gonna be one of the
01:19:04
experiments Hell. Oh, I hope not 'cause just from
01:19:10
what we've seen just a little bit with these walkers and these
01:19:13
weird burning walkers, and they look gross and they look like
01:19:17
they had a painful death. No, let's not do that.
01:19:21
And it's sweet. Like, what was it?
01:19:22
LeBron said. You are nice, but you don't want
01:19:25
people to know you're nice. She's nice.
01:19:27
Leave her alone. Leave her alone.
01:19:29
Queen gonna make her mean though.
01:19:32
Queen gonna make her mean, yeah? Hell yeah, yeah.
01:19:36
He is, but. Oh, also, I agree.
01:19:41
What? Yeah.
01:19:42
Yeah. I was gonna say also, Quinn
01:19:45
didn't have any other people guarding the inside of his club
01:19:50
when Daryl broke in. Like Daryl broke.
01:19:53
Yeah. Oh.
01:19:53
Girl with the gun, that was her job.
01:19:56
She was the guard. She was the guard of Laura in an
01:19:59
upstairs room that was closed. But she was the guard.
01:20:03
Let her be the guard. Haven't we had this conversation
01:20:06
about the the lack of real security in the show?
01:20:10
Yeah, that's who he chose. So if anything happens, it's
01:20:16
kind of his. Own fault?
01:20:19
OK, look at it. Whatever, But yeah, I I just
01:20:24
want to see what she's going to do now that Isabel's back 'cause
01:20:29
you, I I hope he's not expecting her to like, be the one to wait
01:20:38
on easy hand and foot or whatever it 'cause I mean, we
01:20:41
don't even know what is going to happen here.
01:20:43
We just know Isabel went back because she figured, Oh yeah, he
01:20:47
wants me like. He's using Laurent to get to me.
01:20:50
Like just I don't I don't even see Izzy doing all that.
01:20:53
Like, yes, she went back for the purpose, but I don't see her
01:20:56
giving in. I don't see her folding and
01:20:59
being like, oh, I love you. We should be the get no?
01:21:03
No, I don't see that. She's gonna convert back to the
01:21:06
ways that she needed to in order to get what she needed out of
01:21:09
him like she was before. Yeah, same way she used them
01:21:14
tricksters and got them keys out of his pocket that stand in the
01:21:18
middle of the street. Yeah.
01:21:21
And he would be wrong to trust her 100% period.
01:21:25
You know what the fuck she did. You know what she left, you
01:21:27
know, you know they both have done wrong to each other.
01:21:30
And so to just blindly either one of them.
01:21:34
Oh, welcome back to the phone. No.
01:21:37
Right, but she had her reasons for doing I will say that she.
01:21:41
I'm not saying she's not wrong, I'm not saying she's not wrong,
01:21:45
but I'm saying he'd be dumb as hell to just be like, alright,
01:21:48
cool you back. Yeah, no.
01:21:50
Yeah. Like you don't blindly trust
01:21:53
that because you did wrong you you did real wrong.
01:21:58
Yeah, you. Really left me in the middle of
01:21:59
a zombie apocalypse. Stole my car and left me in the
01:22:01
middle of the street. So I'm not his point.
01:22:05
Although I want you back, I'm not just going to blindly have
01:22:08
you back. Yeah, he's going to have to put
01:22:11
some stipulations in place, but he don't, I don't know, he don't
01:22:17
seem like he too bright either. Because one, like I said, you're
01:22:20
treating the current girlfriend crappy and then you give her a
01:22:24
loaded gun to guard your son. Then when Daryl and Laurent are
01:22:31
getting ready to escape and you see him across this bridge, you
01:22:36
run and rush him. Like if old boy and his
01:22:42
guerrilla soldiers can't handle one American you really think
01:22:46
you like? Did you see the look of Daryl
01:22:52
across? Are you gonna came at him?
01:22:54
You could have walked up to him and just started swinging and
01:22:57
you might have had a better chance, but you ran towards him.
01:23:01
You really didn't think he was going to pick you up and drop
01:23:03
your ass on this bridge? What are we doing He.
01:23:08
He he wasn't no believer. I bet he was when he woke up and
01:23:14
his ass got laid the fuck out. Laid out, laid just down just.
01:23:21
Looking like Disney. I think Laurent was, he was
01:23:29
probably feeling a little torn there because even though he
01:23:32
knows that Quintus, his dad, I don't think he, I don't think he
01:23:36
knows yet the circumstances of how that came to be.
01:23:40
So I think he was probably. Better than him like.
01:23:43
Yeah, yeah, he's probably looking at him like, OK, I don't
01:23:48
want to be here with him, but he is still technically my dad, so
01:23:53
I kind of sort of feel sorry for him right now.
01:23:56
But no, I'm a go with Daryl because Daryl can keep him alive
01:24:00
right over him. Yeah, because he knows Daryl can
01:24:03
keep him alive and Daryl is going to take him back to his
01:24:06
auntie. Quinn is like, he was nothing.
01:24:11
Yeah, that's OK. He wasn't nothing, not against
01:24:16
Daryl anyway. Ran at him.
01:24:19
Really. They haven't looked at you like
01:24:21
of. Course.
01:24:23
And and Daryl was looking at him like what you going to do what
01:24:26
we doing? And you ran him full.
01:24:32
I'm, I'm honestly, well, you know, he probably didn't want to
01:24:35
do it in front of Quinn because even when he had the knife at
01:24:37
his throat, he looked up. I mean, he didn't want to do it
01:24:41
in front of Laurent, because even when he had his knife at
01:24:43
his throat, he looked up at Laurent, saw Laurent looking.
01:24:47
He was like, OK, I'm not going to do this, but Devil really
01:24:50
could have picked that dude up and threw him over that, over
01:24:54
that bridge. This is why I thought he should
01:24:55
have did. But really could have done that.
01:24:58
But then you would have. Then you would have a Walker
01:25:00
inside the building because Darryl wouldn't bother to stab
01:25:05
him in the head. Hell.
01:25:07
No, not at all. Would have gave not another
01:25:11
another thought about it. Yeah, he'd have been like, he
01:25:15
need to turn. So anyway, Daryl and La Ron are
01:25:21
off to the nest which means there was probably not going
01:25:26
home anytime soon. I'm just like how long is he
01:25:29
going to have to babysit this child?
01:25:32
And are they even going to make it to the nest at this point?
01:25:36
Cuz you got Falou and Emil and Sylvie and Isabel still in
01:25:42
Paris. You got this new person Aslan,
01:25:45
who is captaining the boat that they're on.
01:25:51
But we don't know anything about him.
01:25:54
He could be somebody bad. He could be somebody.
01:25:57
I don't think so. They trust him too much.
01:26:03
They got a little too much trusting going on.
01:26:05
They got trust. They trust their goddamn body
01:26:08
and with somebody, believe what everybody say.
01:26:13
You trusted you, somebody who's supposed to be the Messiah,
01:26:17
y'all just sending him off with everybody and granny yes I
01:26:21
understand y'all have this movement, y'all are allies, but
01:26:28
Quinn could pay it all. Do a bit like yo.
01:26:30
So I need you to bring this boy. They're going to come, they're
01:26:32
going to come to you. They're going to be looking for
01:26:35
a way out of Paris when it comes to you.
01:26:38
I need, I need you to bring them to me.
01:26:40
I need you to divert them. Here's I don't, I don't know
01:26:42
what the going currency is for something like this, because
01:26:46
obviously Quinn wasn't taking all the other stuff.
01:26:49
He was like, I just want the painting and he just wanted the
01:26:52
painting because he knew Isabel like the pain.
01:26:55
So I don't know what the what the going rate is for, you know,
01:27:02
betraying somebody, but he could be, could be.
01:27:06
But I mean, even if he is he on a boat with Daryl Dixon, that's
01:27:10
not going that's not got well for him.
01:27:13
So, but this is what, 4th episode?
01:27:19
So now we have 2 episodes left for this season and then we
01:27:22
already know. It's 7 episodes.
01:27:25
What's this? Yeah, 6.
01:27:31
Is it 6? I thought, I said.
01:27:36
I thought I watched four of seven.
01:27:41
Let's see more episodes. No, it's 6.
01:27:48
See, I was right, but we already know that Season 2 is coming.
01:27:55
The Book of Carol. We've already seen a couple of
01:27:57
previews on it and I believe the 1st 11 minutes of it is
01:28:03
available on AMC Plus and YouTube I think.
01:28:07
The 1st 11 minutes of. Darrell Dixon season 2 Yep and
01:28:13
then we already know that they have been renewed for season 3
01:28:17
and season 3 is taking place. They are filming in Madrid,
01:28:22
Spain. So obviously that means that
01:28:24
Darrell Dixon ain't going home no time soon, which means that
01:28:28
Carol has to come to France. Because you can't tease us with
01:28:31
the Book of Carol and then don't give us a reunion, or if they
01:28:35
give us one of those where they're almost reunited.
01:28:38
Oh God. Oh no.
01:28:40
And it has the whole whole season.
01:28:44
Right. So, but anyway, so we know we're
01:28:48
getting season 3. Do we have anything else to talk
01:28:53
about with? Wait a second, we get a season
01:28:56
3? I missed that.
01:29:00
They announced it Comic Con weekend, I think, or they may
01:29:05
have no, they may have announced it earlier than that, but they
01:29:08
confirmed it it's a. Model.
01:29:10
So what it's going to be Book of who?
01:29:15
I don't know, but they're, they're, they're filming in
01:29:16
Spain. Oh, my goodness.
01:29:19
OK, We can't be. We can't be a book of nobody.
01:29:21
Everybody. I mean, unless they.
01:29:23
I don't. Damn.
01:29:24
Unless they bring your Rick, I'll say no Rick like I'm.
01:29:29
Gonna turn into a dead city here.
01:29:32
No, no. Because this, we're just gonna
01:29:36
be making stuff up. We're not going to disparage
01:29:39
Dead City. OK, I'm not.
01:29:40
I'm not. I'm positive.
01:29:44
I'm positive that things should be limited series.
01:29:47
Well, you know what I'm, I'm thinking maybe that third season
01:29:51
will be the last. It should because granted, it's
01:29:57
nice seeing things from a different perspective, different
01:30:00
country, whatever. I don't know if them filming in
01:30:04
Madrid means that the story is moving to Madrid or if they're
01:30:08
just using that as backdrop for other other parts of the story.
01:30:15
But can we get Darren to go home?
01:30:18
Darren needs to go home there. I got children there who who
01:30:20
he's supposed to be taking care of and I realized.
01:30:23
At some point, go home. That other people are there and
01:30:26
they are the epitome of it takes a village to raise a child.
01:30:30
But still Darren need to go home.
01:30:33
So I really don't want 456 seasons of this show.
01:30:38
I need, especially now that we know that Rick and Michonne are
01:30:41
home, I need to see that reunion I needed in my bones.
01:30:49
So don't be shaking because, you know, once he got home, he's
01:30:52
asking, well, where? Where are my people?
01:30:55
Of course. And you know that's going to be
01:30:58
a hard conversation because half his people gone.
01:31:01
But Darryl is still alive. Carol is on the lookout for him.
01:31:05
We know this. So yeah, Season 3, y'all need to
01:31:08
be hitting your ass back to the States.
01:31:10
If you got to take a little run back to the states with you, if
01:31:14
you got to take Izzy back to the States with you, if you got to
01:31:17
take Sylvie back to the States with you, take them.
01:31:20
But I need Darryl to go home. Going to be outside, going to be
01:31:30
in Paris and Madrid with signs. Go home.
01:31:35
Right. Go home now.
01:31:38
Right. Do you guys have anything else
01:31:41
about this episode that we need to talk about?
01:31:47
Michelle is looking like good. No.
01:31:50
Why you? Why you got that little
01:31:52
Michelle? I mean you.
01:31:54
I mean, it was, it was a kind of, I want to say a little bit
01:32:00
dull of an episode for himself. No, there's nothing left.
01:32:05
It was a little slow, yeah. OK, well before we end this
01:32:11
episode, I am going to put all of this stuff out there.
01:32:14
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01:32:18
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