#thelastofus The Last of Us takes a break from harrowing fear this week, replacing it with happiness and heartbreak. As they deal with the loss of Tess, Joel and Ellie continue their trek towards Bill and Frank's. Ellie experiences a lot of firsts, and tests her boundaries in the process. Bill and Frank are introduced in a series of flashbacks that lead to present day. Joel and Ellie come to an understanding as they continue on their search for Tommy and the Fireflies.
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What's up hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of The Phantom hybrid podcast. This is hanako and I am here
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with Anthony, Michelle and Mike and we are discussing the third
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episode of The Last of Us. And before we get into the
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episode, I did just want to make mention on the passing of Annie
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Wersching, she is an actress. That is known for a lot of
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things. Mainly 24 Star Trek Picard.
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I knew her from The Vampire Diaries as well, but she was
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also the original voice actress for tests and The Last of Us
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video game. She passed away yesterday at
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age, 45 to cancer. And we just wanted to send our
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condolences to her family, friends and fans rest in peace.
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Miss Annie. Wait till young man way to me.
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Beth Beth floored me because I, you know, I remember hearing
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about her having cancer and then I didn't I didn't hear anything
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else. And, you know, she's been acting
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like I said, she's been in Star Trek Picard and you know, she
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was still doing some things so I was like, okay maybe it went
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into remission or maybe she's just doing well.
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So hearing about that was a little bit of a shock.
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So like I said, because we are discussing the last of us and
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she is one of the Oh, jeez. I did want to make mention
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mention of that and pay tribute to her so rest, in peace, Miss
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Wersching, moving on into the episode.
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So, I know we kept saying that we didn't know if we could take
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all the scary stuff like we were like, I don't know if I can make
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it through all this. So the third episode kind of
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threw us for a curve. They were like, okay, we're
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going to take all the scary stuff out and we're going to
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give you guys one of the possibly best fucking love
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stories you've ever seen on. Yes.
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Yes. Cyril.
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For real. So you take us from being scared
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and being horrified and being like anxious to falling in love
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with this couple and just watching Try to have a life in
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the midst of all this chaos. Yeah.
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From psychological damage to emotion had to do it.
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I knew it was coming. We almost we almost knew it.
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Thank you so much. I needed that recording about
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this show. I mean, how can it not?
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Oh my God, this was so draining dude.
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I mean Is that it was so beautiful.
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It was like At first like Oliver like used at first, you're like
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okay he's just some kind of like Doomsday prepper like okay
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whatever. But then someone Falls one of
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his traps he feeds him. He starts playing piano then
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they're kissing. And I'm like, wow.
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Whenever he's like where did he say?
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He said, I'm not a whore. But if I do this, I'm going to
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stay some days. What?
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Okay, yeah, it was not what I expected actually with the way
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that they started out because, you know, you start out with
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Ellie and Joel in the aftermath of test, his death, and they're
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still on the road. Trying to they're trying to get
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to building Franks. And so when you see the first
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part of the episode, we do still get a little bit of the
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Anxiousness, especially when Ellie, Mike sent a text that he
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was like, why the hell is she going into the hole?
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Why is she going into the fight? What's up, what's up?
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She just like, Casey always says she needed whooping, whooping.
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I mean, it's just teenagers. He is, thank you.
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Yes. It's like, I bring up.
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I always bring up that that scene in Candyman, with every
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girl opens the door to the basement.
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And she's like, nope, and closes the door but young people oh,
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It's Curious. It's a school.
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Our young people during a zombie pandemic.
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Oh, that was curiosity and then their stupidity, I know, but no
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one's like Judith. So, you know, I just, I mean,
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honestly controlling in the, you know, as a teenager thing, I
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kept expecting something to reach up and grab her and pull
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her down. I was just like, yeah, I do too.
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Like I was like, please just stop it.
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What? She signed the light, I
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suspected like to be like, on LetÃs head, I was like, oh God,
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please don't do that to me. Yeah.
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Yeah. Because that they started
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clicking. I was like Oh shit.
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Oh but let me tell you that little girl that young woman
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whatever you want to know she's a little girl missing.
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Yes he jumped. Yeah.
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Yeah but think about it. She doesn't she's never been
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outside anything. She doesn't know anything
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anything. So Is all of this is new to her
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like she's never been in the forest, right?
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This is I know you ever stop playing.
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You've been around and infected before you've been around but
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not up close where they're not threatening.
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So now we're doing a science experiment, but she also takes
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that whole teenager Invincible team to hold her level because
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he can't be turned, right? So now I feel like, as long as
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they're not coming at me, tearing me apart.
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I want to explore my environment.
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She Whoop CI, qiu Yu worked out for her, she found some canoes,
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she really needed. So I get that you know what I'm
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gonna say it was so funny that that happened that way because
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basically what happens is when they when they go into this
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little store that Joel has been to before he stashed some
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supplies there and he can't he can't remember where he stashes
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the Plies. That was the funny thing.
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And she was like, hey, Maybe we can find some stuff and he was
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like this place has been picked clean.
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So when she goes down into the hole, she actually sees a box of
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tampons and she was like, yes. And I was like, again, I like
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this show because you'd you never see that kind of realistic
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stuff in a regular show. Like she's 14 probably just
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coming into that stage of her life.
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And in a, in a zombie apocalypse or whatever he is, you're going
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to need those kinds of things. So the fact that she saw it and
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she was like, yes, I was like, oh, that's a treasure.
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Yes, right. I was thinking, I was thinking,
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you know, anyone who's played open world video game, like that
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knows that you explore, you find things that you've made you.
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So yeah. That was want to me.
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You feel like one of those video game moments where you request.
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Yeah, you were rewarded with exploring.
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So well, I do feel like this was fanservice Because true fans who
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have played the game that I have heard has said stuff.
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Wait a minute, we need some time where they are exploring because
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that's what I do. Most of the time playing the
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game trying to find things and I felt like this was a part where
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they were trying to find things like you kind of threw that in
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for them. In the game, he had stances that
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you can Discover it right? You just have to find him.
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In fact, they've seen the film trying to look for it.
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Like you do remember was, is probably again or not.
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To the game, where it's probably, you know, that there's
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a stanchion here, you have to keep looking for it until you
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find it. So it's kind of cool.
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I mean I'm not a gamer but I have played video games before
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those types of video games. And sometimes you just searching
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in real life. I know it's somewhere, but it's
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kind of like you trying to click something with a mouse, it keeps
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on that arrow and only when you get to the part that you can
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actually click, does it turn into a hand and sometimes it
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takes a long time to find that one little Spot.
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So yeah, that is kind of what it what it reminded me of.
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But so like I said at the beginning of the episode you you
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get them in this aftermath of Tess's death and it's still.
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So this is something that we talked about when we were
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discussing The Walking Dead, the Anthology series tales of the
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Walking Dead. And one of the things that I
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remark, I was like, this is supposed to be a zombie
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apocalypse and there's almost no one around, it's so weird to me
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and it still weird to me, like here, they are with it.
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Whether they say 10 miles west of Boston, their nearest stream
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there, in the forest is quiet. It's a beautiful day and I just
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kept waiting for something to come around the corner, like
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something to be stuck in the water or something to just be
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wandering in the woods. And it's just so strange to me
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that they can walk for long periods of time and never
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encounter anything. That's it.
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Walking Dead pink team. You I mean because then she
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asked that question. Like how come we're not going to
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see? He's so he's like, sort of
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rarely because they've probably all gone to the city.
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You'll be first started. They started putting people in
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quarantine so it wasn't like a lot of people out anymore,
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right? You might get some random
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stragglers but and if you are a virus seeking to spray you
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nothing to stay in the wilderness with A around going
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to go where I can reach more people.
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And if they also sort of operate on somewhat of a hive mind, it
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would they would tend to migrate towards each other anyway.
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Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking, too.
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But like I said, and even going back editing the first two
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episodes that we did. I'm sitting here listening to
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like the terminology we're using and stuff especially like for me
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because I'm used to saying zombies in one particular way.
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So it's like, even though I know that these things are not dead,
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I'm still calling them zombies in my mind.
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You know, I'm still referring to them as zombies which I know
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they're not dead, but it's just, it's so ingrained in my brain
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like certain things that when I'm looking at this, I'm like,
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this is strange. It feels weird, but at the same
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time it's a very refreshing tape.
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On genre that we've seen so much of and you know sometimes with
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genre shows and film you kind of repeat the same things over and
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over. So the fact that this is doing
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something completely different and like it, you know?
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And and it's it's interesting because when you see the two of
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them interact with each other, like obviously they're still a
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little hostility there from Joel because in a way he's blaming
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Ellie for what happened to test and instead of Ellie kind of
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being a scared little kid, she's calling him out on it, not once,
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but twice, in this episode, she was like, look, you made the
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decision to take me where I need, where they wanted me to
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go, because you didn't both of y'all, that's him, both of them
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him and Tessa you. Like, you can't blame me for
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that. Because y'all came y'all dragged
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me out, so it was not my fault. She was like, she hasn't.
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We're giving a You were given a choice and you made a decision.
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Don't don't blame me for her death.
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Y'all are here because you want it something.
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And it's again, it's interesting because you see there's like a
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little bit of maybe not at this point hostility between them but
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they still don't really like each other at this function.
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Yes, there's tension. But there are moments when both
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of them let their guard down and they seem like they could be
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like if I was a person who didn't know what the backstory
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was of these two, when they got into the house towards the end
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of the Episode. I really would have thought they
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were father and daughter, you know, because there was just
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enough playfulness just enough, seriousness, and just enough
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just regular conversation, That I wouldn't have put, you know, I
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wouldn't have looked at them and be like, oh, okay, yeah, they
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clearly don't like each other. Oh, this is clearly an
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antagonistic relationship. You don't see that it is so many
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layers to their relationship, and even to her relationship to
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test. And even in some ways, his
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relationship to test what we saw in the first two episodes.
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Yes. But one of the things I do love
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about her, like you said, and The fact that she has, she has
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never been out, you know, outside of the quarantine zone.
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So everything that she seen is like new to her, and I love her
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enthusiasm. When she saw the Mortal Kombat
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game, she's excited that I love me so much because she was
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talking a mile, a minute. Like, she knew this game.
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Oh yeah, I know. No, had this and blah, blah,
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blah. And there's a character named
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Elena. She does this.
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And thought that was like that's a lot of knowledge for somebody
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who like they can't play sheltered as children as she is.
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Like, she's actually has fatality.
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I was like, okay and varying during that.
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Well, first of all, how old was the friend?
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She was talking about, there isn't one.
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And number two, I was sort of like, Q Hannah going this point,
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because of what we know about zombies, why y'all making some
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is damn noise, especially considering, you know, they say
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the clickers, they can't see, but they can hear.
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Right? Well yeah, I was sitting here
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like to talk way too much even if it's not a lot of this got to
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be a straggler or two somewhere. I mean think about it like when
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we when we meet Frank in the episode he was by himself and he
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just happened to stumble into a trap but That could have been,
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you know. Yeah.
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Make it too much noise. So it's nice.
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And then Ellie is going down into the basement and and she's
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making noise. I mean, and I don't know why it
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took so long for the for the infected /, you know,
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transitioning clicker to make its presence known because she
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was making a lot of noise. It was probably hibernating and
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it she just kind of woke it up. Probably take a minute.
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To just to Stir It Up, neurologically.
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Yeah, I'm just saying, I don't know nothing about it.
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Probably heard them walking up stairs.
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I mean, it's like they can hear so they're probably heard them
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coming around upstairs in him. Like, shifting stuff around
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looking for his stash that he forgot about two years ago.
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So it's like he probably did huge, probably awaken, like,
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come here, let me bite you. I think it's interesting because
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he's down that way. As far as We Know, No, he's down
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there in that basement by himself.
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He's under a lot of bricks and cement blocks and everything
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because I guess the the ceiling of the basement caved in.
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So I'm like So how did he get affected?
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The a, the twinkie. And he was down there.
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Getting something? Yep.
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Yep. Yep.
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And he didn't make it out but we don't it.
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Who knows he ate something and was stuck down there?
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Like realized it didn't take that long if you eat something
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imagine better. If he ate something that was
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nasty and he got he got infected just like his son was like all
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you like he he too old. Honey bunny.
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He was like oh man is spoiled the next thing you know he's
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like like I'm doing like this because she's slicing open his
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forehead on the screen in the background and just seeing that
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little white stuff it's just and I'm just so simple.
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He got infected in the wilderness it depending on where
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it was. Could have been his toe his
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ankle, he walked for shelter, went down in the basement for
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security and happened to Time there and the roof fell on him.
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I don't know. I kind of like he's fresh.
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You know what y'all in this food?
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I'm just saying, he's fresh. Do you need to look at him?
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He's not that old dress so he could be like a couple of years.
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Yeah. But I mean even when they're
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walking when when Ellie and Joel on their way to billion francs,
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to find billion francs, when she starts asking all the questions
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you know about. So how did this start?
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Like she was like so. It only took one day.
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How did that happen? Like if this case this is passed
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on through a bike who built the first person.
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I mean we had that we literally had a conversation last up.
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So like, okay, so who bit the first person You know, how did
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it spread? I mean, you know, I'm loving
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this section. I'm loving this section right
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here because if you didn't clearly get it from episode 1,
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episode 2, he explicitly told you pretty much what happened.
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You know what? I love the two of you because
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you love Exposition and Anthony sometimes despises Exposition
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like he's like yeah you like yeah.
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Talk about it and he's like, get on with it.
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Just like y'all like the perfect juxtapose.
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This was good. This was like bye.
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Sighs experience. Like she said, if you didn't get
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it in the first two episodes, he gave it to you, in about 45
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seconds, he's like in this, that's a keeping moving things.
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Like he basically said General Mills and Kellogg spread the
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disease. Thanks guys.
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Fucking Frosted Flakes. They're infected.
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That is funny but Lonesome answer Mama pancakes.
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Yeah but I mean it was interesting when they're having
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a conversation because she mentioned that she was like,
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okay, so she was like one day everybody is just normal, you
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know, doing things eating in restaurants, flying on planes.
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Because at this point, they had come across a crashed plane in
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the hills. And again, her Wonder at it.
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She didn't look at it and think. Ink.
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Oh my God, people crash. She looked at and thought Oh my
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God, an airplane. Did you ever ride in one of
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those? Oh my God, that's so cool
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because she had never done that, you know?
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So when he starts telling her about everything, he was like,
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well, you know, one major supplier of bread products, you
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know, something, something happened.
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Everybody gets it. It's in the bread, it's in the
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flower. And then he takes that once
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that, that miniscule, pause, When he says pancake mix because
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because remember that's he bought, it makes your he was one
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sorts that close closer to being a fucking zombie, like, right
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here, just because he didn't go to that grocery store on
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Thursday when he said it was packed lie.
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And then we'll know who works in retail knows.
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They all these deliveries everywhere, Thursday morning,
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usually Tuesday or Wednesday. The greatest Thursday, Thursday
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morning, Thursday morning, and buy it with you.
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See it by Friday night, everybody's everybody's buying
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everybody. Would turn into a zombie because
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we ordered lunch today from Jersey.
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Mike's, and when I'm sitting there trying to build my
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sandwich, it gives you options for bread.
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It says, white bread, whole wheat bread, some rolls
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Rosemary, something bread and no gluten.
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And I'm sitting and looking at like the no gluten option, but
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it's an extra dollar and 85 cents and I was laughing.
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Huh, I have mine in the salad version, please.
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I'm just saying it's just one of those things by this time
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tomorrow. I'll probably be living in this
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world. But, you know, as he's giving
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her information talking about how the world feels fell, you
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know, he mentions the date and again that slight pause when he
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says it like If you didn't know, if you hadn't watched the first
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episode, I think, if you would watch this episode and seeing
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that conversation, you wouldn't have even picked up on it
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because it was that slight. But something about the way he
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told the story, something about his facial expression, his body
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language, you know, I'm always talking about.
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I'm always paying attention to body language and the way people
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say things and how they relate things and is so minuscule in
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these scenes, but it's almost like every Time.
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He mentioned it when he mentioned the pancake mix, I was
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like it was like a stab to the heart when he mentions the date
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again, it's like a stab to the heart.
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Like. Oh he's thinking about his
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little girl. Then.
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We get to a section of the field and he looks ahead and he's
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like, okay, yeah, we're going to go through the forest and she
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was like, know why don't we go this way?
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He was like, well, there's some things up there.
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You shouldn't see. And of course what, what is it?
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You tell somebody not to press the red button.
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What's the first thing they're going to do?
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They're going to protect the Redbud, you tell her oh there's
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something up there. I don't want to say oh now I
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gotta go see it. And I love the fact that she was
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just like So I also like the fact that it's a subtle way of
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showing that he's starting to care for her feeling, he started
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view her as more than just a job.
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Like if he didn't care about her he wouldn't have cared about her
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seeing it. Right?
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Yeah. But he actually was was
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considering her feelings and how she might react.
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So yeah. And I think not even just her
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feelings. But again that first part of the
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episode really focused on showing us that she was, she was
00:23:30
very naive when it came to the world because she had never been
00:23:33
exposed to it. And just like with testing the
00:23:36
last episode even though yes, they looking at her as a job,
00:23:40
they're like, okay you know what?
00:23:42
You can't be out in this world and not know what's going on
00:23:45
because that's the way to get you killed or you know if not
00:23:48
infected that's a way for you to get ripped apart and even the
00:23:52
other part when, you know, when he was talking about, okay,
00:23:55
we're going to go this way, you know, what are we?
00:23:57
And she's like, what You looking, for if there's not a
00:24:00
lot of infected, he was like, people because again, in these
00:24:04
kinds of times, people are sometimes more dangerous than
00:24:08
the monsters. You know, we talked about that
00:24:10
on Walking Dead all the time, so, They get up to that field
00:24:18
and you see bodies or skeletons from bodies.
00:24:24
You see torn clothes and you see suitcases and when she looks and
00:24:29
he tells her he was like yeah you know they always told people
00:24:34
that they were you know, that they would take a man that they
00:24:37
would keep him safe. They will take him to the corn
00:24:39
zinc teen zones but if they didn't have any space space,
00:24:44
Yes. They ended up shooting him and
00:24:47
Ellie was like, why would they shoot them if they weren't sick?
00:24:52
And he tells her he was like because you can't get infected
00:24:56
if you're dead. Like what are the other options
00:25:00
here, fool. It's to leave them out on the
00:25:03
street. Yeah.
00:25:05
And if you leave them, we already know what's going to
00:25:08
happen. When you have walls and a safe
00:25:11
community. And you have people outside of
00:25:13
that Safe Community, they want in their going to be banging on
00:25:19
doors, banging on walls, they're going to be yelling, they're
00:25:22
going to be screaming, they're going to be making noise, or are
00:25:25
you just add to the number of infected?
00:25:28
Right. Which is it?
00:25:30
Yeah, it was making me think of Game of Thrones.
00:25:32
When the white walkers they kill whole bunch people.
00:25:36
In all those people become White Walkers.
00:25:38
So here, if you can't quarantine Zone and me, you just can't
00:25:42
leave them out because eventually they'll be in fakie
00:25:45
and they'll just be more of them.
00:25:46
So it's that cold calculus, that the military does sometimes?
00:25:53
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:54
So we see the skeletons and of course, one of Of the last
00:25:58
images we see from that field is of a baby, a baby skeleton and
00:26:04
you see a little bit of the blanket and then it kind of
00:26:07
transitions into the start of this pandemic and you see the
00:26:12
military are there to evacuate a town.
00:26:15
You see the mother and you know holding the baby with that blank
00:26:18
in. They're all getting on a truck.
00:26:20
The soldiers are going through the neighborhood trying to clear
00:26:22
the house and you know, clear all the houses and you have this
00:26:25
one lone figure sitting in front of TV screens.
00:26:30
And at first, I thought I was like, okay, is this somebody
00:26:33
who's part of the military? Because you saw the cameras and
00:26:36
then when I realized when they kind of pan back and they show
00:26:39
like the fool I was like, oh he's hiding from them and then
00:26:44
you can hear them in his house, walking above the floor, and you
00:26:49
can see the dust coming down. He's sitting there, he's got his
00:26:52
gun and he's waiting. And then they clear the house,
00:26:56
they get everybody, and they leave the city.
00:27:00
He comes up from his basement. First of all, they thought they
00:27:02
were in the basement. They were like, you're checking
00:27:05
the basement now and it's clear. I was like, so this man got a
00:27:11
sub sub-basement. Yeah, he does.
00:27:16
So anyway, when they clear the town, he comes up with his gun,
00:27:20
he's trying to make sure nobody is in this house.
00:27:23
He looks Surround, and his town, and the town is empty.
00:27:27
When I tell you, I was watching what he was doing and I was
00:27:31
like, yep, I pretty much do that too.
00:27:35
Because he did everything, he went to find him, some gas for
00:27:39
the generators, he would have stocked up on supplies.
00:27:42
He grabbed the boat. I was like, what are you going
00:27:44
to do with the boat? And then I thought, oh, this
00:27:45
probably a lake nearby. He's probably going to go
00:27:47
fishing. No.
00:27:49
You took the seats out? It was a shopping cart.
00:27:53
Oh that's right. He did.
00:27:55
Because as soon as you tend to see Cyprus thought that too
00:27:57
high. One.
00:27:57
Here you go. Yeah.
00:27:59
Say yeah, you're right. And then I was like, he went he
00:28:02
went to that Home Depot. I said oh you took the seats
00:28:04
out. I said this is his big huge
00:28:06
shopping cart. He bout to go crazy.
00:28:10
Bobby he, I mean, he didn't have to get a lot because nobody else
00:28:14
is in the time, right? You can go back when you want
00:28:16
to, you go shopping on Thursday. So they had it.
00:28:21
I guess they tried to quarantine it at first or try to contain
00:28:25
it. He built this.
00:28:28
That was, or did he build that fence?
00:28:36
Because this was September 30th. They have time tried enough and
00:28:39
yeah. Okay.
00:28:41
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
00:28:57
Riya, the high-voltage size on. I was like, so impressed with
00:29:02
this. Dude I was like, okay, I mean,
00:29:05
but can you imagine when I was younger?
00:29:10
I probably would have been like, no I'm not staying in a whole
00:29:13
city by myself now that I'm older and I become a little more
00:29:16
introverted like can you imagine now peace and quiet?
00:29:23
No, not me. Okay, had electricity, well, he
00:29:25
had gasps. He did have Have some
00:29:28
electricity because he had the generator, he's got access to
00:29:31
all the gas and I don't know what town he was in but the fact
00:29:35
that he at that time wasn't rated more than it had been.
00:29:40
Like we only saw one instance later on in the episode where
00:29:43
somebody was actually trying to take his house.
00:29:47
I'm like hold up first of all, all these empty homes around
00:29:52
here, y'all want to take the 12 that the wine guy is living in,
00:29:55
and I know that was probably just the okay you You know what?
00:29:58
We just need to go ahead and secure it.
00:29:59
Make sure nobody's opposing us but still.
00:30:02
Yeah, y'all could have went on the other side of town.
00:30:06
Y'all need that particular house.
00:30:08
You do because he had a nice section blocked off.
00:30:11
And if someone has that blocked off like that, they have some
00:30:13
good-ass supplies. I know I know some good and
00:30:17
here's the thing he went to the power plant to I'm in like, I
00:30:22
was going to do, he go look like he went and turned the gas on.
00:30:26
He turned it back on the vicar on the Home Depot.
00:30:30
That's when the power grid went out and he was like oh that was
00:30:32
quick. Yeah.
00:30:33
Yeah he went and I guess you know nobody ever did.
00:30:40
Nobody ever lets go? I guess they figured oh oh well
00:30:47
if he's over there by himself we just gonna leave them alone.
00:30:50
I mean I think the hair bands in the power plants that point.
00:30:54
Yes. What are they gasps?
00:31:04
But you know, from the time that that started to the time that he
00:31:10
meets Frank for years goes by and I'm like he did a lot in
00:31:15
four years but then again, if you ain't got shit else to this
00:31:19
damn thing, got it like he going to work.
00:31:21
He's like, okay, this week I've been preparing for this all his
00:31:26
life. He knew exactly what he was
00:31:30
doing and he had the Home Depot to help him these Home Depot.
00:31:36
I mean yes. So anyway, for years into all of
00:31:43
this, he's sitting there doing doing some kind of Maintenance
00:31:47
and one of his alarms goes off and he has a whole I'm
00:31:52
wondering, what's he trying to dig a well there because it was
00:31:55
very circular or was it just supposed to be a trap?
00:31:58
Such a straps? Yeah, it was true that some of
00:32:02
his traps like the one trap he had where one of the infected
00:32:07
was coming across and it tripped a wire.
00:32:10
And it shot it shot the the zombie.
00:32:13
And again those things are hard to kill because even after he'd
00:32:17
been shot, it was still sitting on the ground wriggling.
00:32:21
I was like uh uh but He you know, he goes to check his traps
00:32:28
and there is a man inside this hole and there's a little
00:32:34
conversation but it was it was so funny because I'm looking at
00:32:38
the way that he reacted and like before I knew that this was
00:32:42
going to be a love story. It was his reaction the way that
00:32:46
he reacted because it's almost like he was expecting someone
00:32:51
more threatening. Probably less attractive because
00:32:54
I mean even though he was kind of Scruffy and dirty and stuff
00:32:58
Frank was the Frank is still an attractive man and it's like the
00:33:02
way he came upon me. He stopped it was kind of like
00:33:05
Oh wait, I wasn't expecting this. like, I think if it had
00:33:11
been a if it had been a female, if it had been, maybe a younger
00:33:16
guy or something like that, he probably would have fed them and
00:33:20
let them go. I really feel that but it's like
00:33:23
even from the beginning when they first meet each other and
00:33:28
he finally decides to let Frank out of the hole and he test him
00:33:31
in the back and forth away their kind of sizing each other up.
00:33:34
I was just like yep I already ship it.
00:33:38
Well, let me go back, I don't think it didn't matter who it
00:33:40
was. I don't even care if he was a
00:33:42
five-year-old child. I don't think he would have had
00:33:44
them. First of all, it takes him about
00:33:46
two hours to complete a meal. Okay?
00:33:48
Because he went to coronary school so I don't think he would
00:33:51
I don't think he would have fed them anything.
00:33:54
Exactly right. He would let no one in No one,
00:33:59
he been prepared for this shit. He's been, he's been yeah.
00:34:28
Being a lonely, a dead and lonely in surviving.
00:34:30
He'll pick mumia survival. Yeah.
00:34:32
Every time. But I guess I just wonder like
00:34:35
sometimes with the with these survivalists of these doomsday
00:34:39
people like when they plan this stuff and something happens.
00:34:44
I wonder do they like I can see in my mind or I can say in my
00:34:51
mind. Okay, I know if such-and-such
00:34:53
happens, we might lose 50%. 75% of the population.
00:34:58
Okay, would be a lot less people around, okay, for some people,
00:35:02
that's great, always too crowded.
00:35:03
Anyway, people get on my nerves. People are, you know, they're
00:35:06
cruel to each other this than other.
00:35:08
So some people might be okay with situations like he found
00:35:11
himself in but as the time goes by, and it might be different
00:35:18
for him because he seemed like The Loner type.
00:35:21
Anyway, but somebody like me. I'm going to start to miss human
00:35:27
interaction, human touch, even if it's simple, just a hug, just
00:35:33
a hello know. I kind of think like, after a
00:35:37
year, I might be okay. Yeah, but but he'll be
00:35:40
suspicious of people. I mean, you can't just let
00:35:43
anybody in your house, I know. Yeah.
00:35:47
Like you said, like you would like if that was me and I would
00:35:51
have been just like him because there's a movie that came out
00:35:55
when we were kids called night of the Comet.
00:35:57
We're like a comet came by and like turned everybody into red
00:35:59
dust and there was like a group of teenagers that were left and
00:36:03
they just went wild just with like grabbing everything.
00:36:06
See I would've been he's like that or like the last that
00:36:11
should last man on Earth Will Forte where I was.
00:36:13
Then the whole lot of stupid shit and been like, oh fuck.
00:36:17
I gotta, I gotta figure something out because the
00:36:19
skinned out of hand, but it's like, you have to be careful in
00:36:24
this point because it's like, you don't know.
00:36:27
I mean, he's, he's fortunate to have a tester.
00:36:29
If he'd have a tester, he would been fun.
00:36:31
But it's well, how do you get the tester?
00:36:33
You know, they probably had some of these left.
00:36:35
So you say, could they even have a test on the 30th?
00:36:38
There's no way. You don't really know what's
00:36:40
going on. You have two testers on the
00:36:42
30th. That's why he he he did.
00:36:47
That's just interesting to me. He left as far as you know, not
00:36:53
trusting people. I would think that somebody who
00:36:56
has done that much prep into surviving, a pandemic, surviving
00:37:02
an apocalypse. He was seen to have like a
00:37:06
pretty good sense of who people are.
00:37:09
I'm going to save this and I'm not gonna stand and I'll leave
00:37:12
it alone. You giving the Riders too much
00:37:14
credit, and I was just going to leave it at that, okay?
00:37:20
And, and I'm sorry to the all the Preppers out there, these
00:37:23
peppers are serious. They not let people in.
00:37:26
I mean, you got to give your social security number, your
00:37:28
blood type. You don't have to sleep in a
00:37:30
tent for two weeks to prove that you can come.
00:37:33
A inside that house and then like, I guess later, like we
00:37:38
don't know what now but later we realized and found out that he
00:37:42
don't really think about Raiders so it's possible.
00:37:45
He just didn't think that this guy could be just trying to get
00:37:48
in. So he let his friends in like
00:37:51
he's his I don't think he thought about that.
00:37:55
But what was his traps for not just for the infected?
00:37:58
It had to be also for people are like, yeah, Girls rainbow It was
00:38:04
very faint, very effective in deterring people from getting
00:38:08
their hit the fence, right? Like I don't think he was doing
00:38:11
groups other than he was ready for a group.
00:38:13
Again, he's better than I am. If I wouldn't trust new you, if
00:38:20
I see if you if I see you like this, my automatic assumption
00:38:24
is, why are you doing way out here by yourself and to?
00:38:27
Where are your friends at? So no we not he's staying right
00:38:32
there in the hole he gave you a Explanation.
00:38:34
He was coming from the Baltimore qz, which is gone and he left.
00:38:38
I would just, I would just assume that's a lie.
00:38:41
Why would I believe you or is one of those things?
00:38:44
And I mean we've had this discussion talking, you know,
00:38:47
again, we're we are going to make Walking Dead comparisons
00:38:50
because that's like the other big zombie show that we do.
00:38:53
But I mean, that was one of the things that when I was on Syfy
00:38:58
party line and we talked about the episodes like when they met
00:39:01
Bob like how are you the loan? Survivor of two groups like that
00:39:08
best. That is strange that he is.
00:39:09
You put some people in the way I hope her Bob he's I mean yeah, I
00:39:15
know. Okay, knit me, yes, I know I
00:39:17
know but I'm just saying it's one of those things where you do
00:39:22
kind of Wonder like how is it that all of your people died and
00:39:28
yet you're still here. But you think about that with
00:39:31
the governor to even though we know what Happened with his
00:39:34
people when he comes across Tara and her sister.
00:39:37
They don't know. You know his whole thing is just
00:39:40
you know, I was with a group. They all they're all gone and
00:39:44
it's just me. Well, how is it just you?
00:39:47
It's just one of those things where yeah, I would be kind of
00:39:50
suspicious like the qz to fall. Like what happened?
00:39:57
And how did you get out of there?
00:40:00
We'll look at like this is like I got to be faster than zombies.
00:40:02
That's gonna be faster than Person of birds behind me.
00:40:08
I got our nobody but you so this is true.
00:40:14
So anyway, we'll let we can speculate all day long about why
00:40:19
he made the decision, he did. But he did make the decision and
00:40:22
I think it was clear kind of early on that he was, he was
00:40:27
struggling with something within himself.
00:40:29
You know, first of all, the fact that he did let this person in
00:40:32
his house, this stranger And his house and then, you know, Frank
00:40:36
goes to take a shower and when he brings Frank the clothes, you
00:40:39
can tell he's a little uncomfortable.
00:40:43
You know, I think part of it was the fact that you have this
00:40:48
person in your house. And then the other part of the
00:40:51
fact is, like I said, I got the feeling that bill was lonely.
00:40:56
You know, I got the feeling that again.
00:40:59
He looked at this person and maybe Something threw him off.
00:41:05
You know? Maybe he looked at Frank and
00:41:06
he's like, oh here's this attractive guy.
00:41:08
Oh wait, that kind of thing is supposed to be over for me, but
00:41:11
it's right here. Like it, literally fell in my
00:41:14
lap, you know? But it's one of those things
00:41:17
where he's like, okay, well he's only going to be here for the
00:41:19
day. I'm just going to feed him and
00:41:21
send him on his way. And I feel like the way that
00:41:24
Nick Offerman played this role and His Brilliant.
00:41:30
You could kind of feel the tug and pull of okay.
00:41:33
A, I want him to stay five years, you said feeling my lap
00:41:39
and now you said. So your pool.
00:41:41
I can't not. Do you feel?
00:41:52
But anyway, so he feels this conflict.
00:41:57
About what to do about this person and then they have they
00:42:00
have the dinner and Frank a kill you?
00:42:04
Okay. Hold up.
00:42:04
Can we talk about the care with which he served this dude that
00:42:08
you just met again. That's what he he he said the
00:42:10
plate down then he turned it slightly to enhance the
00:42:15
presentation of the rabbit that he just cooked Agnes like that.
00:42:19
That's as a server. I noticed that I was like,
00:42:21
Michelle say he went to call, you have to because you have to
00:42:24
see the care. He was taken in making this
00:42:26
Sake. And he made that glaze on the
00:42:28
side and picking the right wine. So you know, that's the thing
00:42:32
right there. That's it made me hungry.
00:42:34
I was like damn dog. I was like, I was like excuse
00:42:37
me. Do I need to go hunt and put
00:42:40
like he created his own like Once again, the focus is on
00:42:46
food, this time is food, we could actually eat.
00:42:50
There was some potatoes, Harry Harry carrots.
00:42:55
Some Rebels kind of those kind of a homely looking carrot but
00:42:58
means character better than nothing.
00:43:01
You got the crystal out and the time them yet, and that's why I
00:43:06
said I feel like at that point, that's nice.
00:43:10
I don't know, maybe he wasn't trying to get him to stay, but
00:43:14
at the same time, I feel like he was, he was putting it out
00:43:17
there. Like, oh yes, I have nice things
00:43:19
this addiction to give him, just a regular, cheeseburger or
00:43:28
sandwich. Yo, Really.
00:43:40
I mean, yeah. Exactly.
00:43:41
It's like and and he just didn't pour me some.
00:43:43
Yeah, I was like, yeah, this is definitely going to be a thing
00:43:58
and when this is probably a big part of big part of his life
00:44:02
that he probably missed and it's like he didn't hadn't had a
00:44:04
chance to do that in like what three years.
00:44:07
No, I mean, the think about it, do it before then.
00:44:09
I finally did go to bed. Frank asked them.
00:44:12
Have you ever done this before? He was like no.
00:44:14
No only only once with a girl. So here we also know what I'm
00:44:19
saying. This is like this is something
00:44:21
that he's probably seen done is that he's probably because you
00:44:25
know he researches everything so he probably came across.
00:44:28
Somebody preparing it and serving and things like that you
00:44:31
probably. Oh yeah.
00:44:32
Seen The Culinary shows and seeing them serving people like
00:44:35
that. So he knew how to do it.
00:44:38
You just never had the opportunity.
00:44:39
Put it in action, somebody but you see who is wine racking up
00:44:44
in the basement. I mean, that was before all this
00:44:47
happened. So alrighty, have no no forget
00:44:52
it. Yeah.
00:44:53
Yeah. He stopped there to with his
00:44:54
boat and pick up some cases. You knows what he's done.
00:44:58
He think about it. It was probably him in his mom
00:45:01
and he probably did this for her.
00:45:03
This was something that he did other than click guns and
00:45:07
doomsday prep. He probably did.
00:45:10
Was quite impressive guns and wine with else.
00:45:16
Do you need? And it was going also, well,
00:45:21
until someone started to sing, he was like, nah.
00:45:24
It's a working. I don't know if it was.
00:45:56
So well, the hookah thing is almost like they should be a
00:45:58
professional singer and their seducing them, that way, you
00:46:01
know, because the other person is just like, oh my God, you're
00:46:04
so great. And it wasn't that in this
00:46:06
episode, it was kind of like, yeah, I really can't play as
00:46:10
well as I want to. And my singing is Out Of Tune,
00:46:13
but it was something that was sincere from the heart.
00:46:15
And I think that's what both of them connected with.
00:46:19
I will say, they were connected once he pushed him aside, and
00:46:23
Bill got on that piano and sunk his heart out.
00:46:25
And that's When I find a Canadian.
00:46:31
Yeah, because he was singing that.
00:46:35
Yeah. I love you the for someone or
00:46:54
rather for himself, like, I wish this is something I could have
00:46:57
experienced because, of course, when we're living in the here
00:47:02
and now we don't think about the world ending.
00:47:04
We're like, okay, maybe I haven't found the right one.
00:47:07
Oh, I'll find them later. I'll find them down line, or
00:47:10
maybe it's not my time yet, but then Happens if their time never
00:47:13
comes again, Bill, probably thought he was going to be alone
00:47:17
forever, you know, and especially if he was what I
00:47:20
suspect is closeted. Then once the world fell to
00:47:26
shit, he's probably like, oh I'm just fuck time, it's just going
00:47:30
to be me. I'm never going to experience
00:47:32
this whatever and then Here Comes Frank and Frank kind of
00:47:38
feels him out as far as like okay.
00:47:40
So who's the girl and when he makes that admission he was like
00:47:45
there is no girl and he's crying and Frank is like I know and
00:47:49
when they kiss I was like but you don't even know his name.
00:47:53
No. But At this point I'd be like
00:47:55
I'm in love too. I mean, look at how this man
00:47:58
cook and I get the piano sing it making love to the piano keys
00:48:06
and I was like hey I'm here let me make sure he's um he's
00:48:13
available. No Anthony, you know if you ever
00:48:16
do it never in the doghouse you need to learn how to cook a
00:48:19
rabbit and pair it with the proper wine and then go place.
00:48:24
Then on the piano and serenade. Wiggly get you get, you come
00:48:27
balls that Beaujolais and get it ready, but then okay.
00:48:35
So we go from the kids, we go to the bedrooms and I and I kind of
00:48:40
like the way that Frank put that he kissed him and he was like,
00:48:43
go take a shower. I was like oh he just basically
00:48:47
said you bout to get laid, go get clicking.
00:48:50
I was like okay and it kind of made me smell like yes.
00:48:54
Sheridan, couple days, but I need to go freshen up.
00:48:57
Yeah, you don't get so that thing.
00:49:01
But then of course, you know, you see, you see the scene where
00:49:04
they're in bed and the the care that Frank takes with Bill
00:49:08
because again, he asked me, he was like have you ever done this
00:49:11
before? No.
00:49:12
Only with the girl. Okay, so we're going to start
00:49:14
with the basics and also just to let you know, I'm not a whore.
00:49:19
Yeah. I'm not a good guy.
00:49:21
Yeah, yeah, hehe took that towel and pull them into bed.
00:49:24
Like they'll hey but did you see the look after he took the
00:49:27
talent out things look like? Yeah.
00:49:30
So here we go. We're checking off some boxes.
00:49:32
Here Comes baby taking off some boxes.
00:49:35
First of all, who's like a backup.
00:49:38
I'll make it easy. I mean that's what that running
00:49:46
on me. Looks like a defensive end over
00:49:50
there and and with boy, I mean running from the infected and
00:50:00
you can't eat much. But the freedom of the other
00:50:41
hand, the renovations life, right?
00:50:43
Hey, has he been playing up? He's that he's he worked for the
00:50:47
pick of the day of eyes and throw him in the fire.
00:50:49
So, you know, that's the who how far is Boom or from work out?
00:50:53
That's a good question. I don't know.
00:50:56
So, yeah, but it's funny. Like I said, you go from them in
00:50:59
the bedroom scene. If Frank is taking a lot of care
00:51:02
with Bill and everything looks romantic.
00:51:06
And then it cuts to them. Arguing, three years later with
00:51:11
Frank coming out the house. Torn out the house.
00:51:14
I'm done, blah, blah, blah. And then having this argument
00:51:17
and then you realize they're having this argument because
00:51:20
Frank is mad, because bill has let the house go, go to shit and
00:51:25
he's like, no, I want to I want to beautify this, but did he say
00:51:30
that's taking care of things that shows love?
00:51:32
And so he wants to cut the bangs like all I'm asking for Is some
00:51:36
paint. And the last not really think I
00:51:45
should else, right? But this is where we realize,
00:51:49
you know, towards the end once Bill kind of gives and he's
00:51:52
like, okay? And then he's like, oh I'm going
00:51:54
to fix up the boutique and the such a such to and Bill is like
00:51:59
novel. I don't know, by the way, it'll
00:52:03
be nice when I invited, when I invite this girl that I've been
00:52:06
chatting on the radio with like, Yeah, and this is, this is where
00:52:13
we lying, you know, how he's met test and and Joel.
00:52:18
Because the next thing that we see test and roller there,
00:52:21
they're sitting outside on, you know, in front yard, they're
00:52:25
eating on The Good China and the good Crystal where And this is
00:52:30
where the kind of, you know, they're kind of feeling each
00:52:32
other out, trying to decide if they're going to be in
00:52:36
partnership with each other and basically, tests and Joel are
00:52:39
offering supplies from the qz that they don't have in exchange
00:52:44
for, you know, other supplies, our help.
00:52:47
And it's so funny because you have them sitting.
00:52:50
So bill is sitting across the table from Joel and Frank is
00:52:54
sitting across the table from test, Frank and tests are
00:52:59
talking, like they have been friends for 20 years.
00:53:02
They are having a ball there. They're getting along.
00:53:04
Nick is sitting there eating with one hand.
00:53:06
God is good and Joe's just sitting there eating and when
00:53:14
Frank takes inside the house to show her the house, which bill
00:53:18
is also objecting to Him and Joel kind of have a
00:53:22
conversation. Joel was like, nope I understand
00:53:25
being paranoid, you don't know what's going on.
00:53:28
Yeah you got a nice little setup here.
00:53:30
People Mike, I understand that, but get that gun at my face like
00:53:33
he changed it real quick. I was like okay this is the Joe
00:53:37
that everybody was like. Yeah we know you can take care
00:53:39
of some shit cuz he's just sitting there talking was like
00:53:42
yeah I understand got to protect what's yours and blah blah blah
00:53:45
blah blah. But you're going to get that gun
00:53:47
out of my face. I was like, dang Joe got black
00:53:50
death. For it was like, hold up what we
00:53:54
know about to do all this shit. He's been through, he's like,
00:53:58
okay, yeah, you know, you paranoid, I get that.
00:54:01
But yeah, you can put that down, right, but then we as they're
00:54:06
escorting, them out the gate. That's where we realized that.
00:54:09
Frank is the one who came up with the idea for the radio
00:54:12
codes. You know, the 80s means you're
00:54:14
in trouble. 70s means, um, things that little kind of shaky
00:54:18
60s. Music is oh, everything's Okay,
00:54:21
so they again, they are walking off.
00:54:23
Like, they're really good friends, and Joel and Bill, stay
00:54:27
back. And Joel is giving him a
00:54:28
warning. He was like, look, I know, you
00:54:30
can take care of yourselves. I know you got things going.
00:54:33
He said, you may not have to worry about infected, but there
00:54:36
will be Raiders, they will come, they will be in groups, and they
00:54:39
will come at night. And, you know, he's trying to
00:54:43
warn bill you need better protection, you know, he'd
00:54:46
already picked out like oh, okay, your fences are riding,
00:54:49
you know, your fences are rusting.
00:54:51
I can get you galvanized steel, that'll take care of you for
00:54:54
life. And, you know, he's offering
00:54:58
these different things to him. And just basically saying look
00:55:02
protect your shit, you know? And then we get another time
00:55:07
Jump, 23 years later where I don't know if this has come, you
00:55:15
know, happened like have Raiders tried to come.
00:55:17
But when you see the, when you see the gate next, there's a
00:55:20
whole bunch of cars at sticker. Four cars, hi-yah, please some
00:55:34
beer, some heavy equipment, still there, when he was able to
00:55:37
go to a power plant. So they have machines that pick
00:55:41
up the power poles. No, that's probably way to you.
00:55:45
I'm sure all this began square and even one, but I was like,
00:55:56
oh, somebody tried to get in here because like I said, cars
00:55:59
that 4D All he just took Joe at his word.
00:56:03
It said, yeah, I'm like, okay. You know what?
00:56:05
Let's just but I mean I don't, I don't know.
00:56:09
Maybe that's where the defense started breaking down because
00:56:14
something tells me he didn't take Joel up on his offer.
00:56:18
And maybe that section of the fence was what started rusting.
00:56:21
And he was like, okay, well let's go ahead and just kind of
00:56:24
barricade this because I can't see you doing.
00:56:26
Like he had his whole Community fenced off.
00:56:30
I can't see you doing that with car like that to me that would
00:56:34
scream. Hey somebody's here and we got
00:56:36
shit, you can take like if you if you have it on one section of
00:56:40
the fence, okay, maybe right. At the beginning, they tried to
00:56:46
keep something out or whatever. He doesn't really take care of
00:56:51
the rest of the neighborhood. So it looks kind of downtrodden,
00:56:54
like, obviously their house still looks good.
00:56:58
The the boutique because, that's what Frank wants looks good.
00:57:03
But I mean, we see, even towards the end the boutique, the
00:57:06
boutique had fallen in disrepair.
00:57:08
So I don't think he was really taking care of the neighborhood
00:57:11
in that sense, because you don't want people to be like, oh well,
00:57:13
these houses are well taken care of.
00:57:15
Let's crash here. Or anything like that.
00:57:19
But yeah, I was just like That's that's a that's a lot of weight
00:57:25
for two people to move. And you know, I never think
00:57:28
about the construction vehicles because I guess I feel like
00:57:33
maybe when they evacuated, if it was something that would have
00:57:36
helped out the military, they probably would have taken it.
00:57:39
No, they would have had because they probably know they have
00:57:43
that stuff, they would call to him by.
00:57:44
Do we have x y z there? Yeah, we have their.
00:57:47
Okay, Ben. They're not going to waste the
00:57:49
effort to move on that stuff or the gas with.
00:57:53
Yeah. Yeah, move.
00:57:53
Quit. Yeah.
00:57:55
Okay. But yeah.
00:57:57
So this is where we where we see them jogging around the
00:58:00
neighborhood and Frank takes Bill to see something and he has
00:58:07
he said what did he say? He gave he traded Joel and test
00:58:10
a gun. He said, strawberry.
00:58:12
See what guy? Yeah, it's just a little,
00:58:19
something like that. But you see strawberries.
00:58:22
He's surprised him with strawberries and it's just the
00:58:27
tenderness in this scene and just the Simplicity of it.
00:58:30
Like, Something as simple as a strawberry, bringing someone to
00:58:35
tears because this is something they hadn't seen and I think at
00:58:40
this point is been, it's been 11, 12, no, it's been nine years
00:58:46
at this point because it was three-year no 6.
00:58:52
Six years, they've been 33. Know I have been for years from
00:58:58
the time that it started to the time.
00:59:00
He found Frank and then it was three years till now.
00:59:03
So yeah, seven years, okay? But you haven't seen a
00:59:05
strawberry seven years and you know again this this episode is
00:59:10
just kind of it's not very forward.
00:59:14
Moving as far as the plot is definitely one of those side
00:59:18
episodes. And the show Runners have said,
00:59:20
this is something that doesn't happen.
00:59:21
In in the games. And that's that's kind of the
00:59:24
consensus I've seen online because everyone is told me.
00:59:28
Okay, Bill is in the game and Bill is an asshole in the game.
00:59:31
We know that Frank is his partner, but from what I've
00:59:35
gathered, Frank is not in the game for very long and we know
00:59:40
that their Partners, but there's not a lot of interaction and we
00:59:45
don't know like Frank apparently dies in the game but we don't, I
00:59:49
don't know how because I, you know, again I hadn't Game and
00:59:52
now but away from most prank separate himself from Bill and
00:59:57
Frank doesn't like Bill right now.
00:59:59
Okay? Until I guess he, I didn't know
01:00:01
he died. But yeah, I think that's what I
01:00:04
read, but I'm not. Yeah, but yeah, they don't keep
01:00:06
didn't like build anymore. Okay, Anthony is like me.
01:00:13
But anyway, well, that's not mean, hey, that's not a spoiler.
01:00:17
We don't care bills in the game Frank's not they have a great
01:00:20
relationship, but here they do. Yeah, they do it.
01:00:23
And if I mean like I said it was one of those things where this
01:00:27
was a story, I wasn't expecting from the show and then when I
01:00:32
started seeing everybody's reaction to it, like everybody's
01:00:36
saying, oh my God, this is one of the best episodes.
01:00:40
On TV. This is one of the best romance
01:00:42
is on TV. The way that they told the
01:00:44
episode and people are like, oh this part, this wasn't in the
01:00:46
game and I really don't care that it wasn't in the game.
01:00:48
It was, it was amazing. And I saw that, I don't know how
01:00:53
a couple people have seen the episode, but after last week's
01:00:57
episode, like, two days later, I heard about this episode being
01:01:00
longer and that it was one of the best episodes, okay?
01:01:07
And they couldn't wait until Sunday to watch.
01:01:10
Probably people who had access to the screeners, you know, the
01:01:15
the journalist or the bloggers and reporters who had access to
01:01:19
it but You know, you get to see a little bit more of them, you
01:01:25
see a, I think it's another wasn't another time Jump where
01:01:31
we see Raiders, they did come at night, they did coming to group.
01:01:35
And like you said, I think Bill took Joel's advice to heart
01:01:41
because you see the traps that he's laid out.
01:01:43
And it's kind of like, yo, I don't know who y'all thought
01:01:46
y'all were fucking with. But this dude was ready for
01:01:50
y'all yellow white War outside like it had fire and had this
01:01:58
and had that like people getting cut open people being set on
01:02:01
fire and I don't know where Bill was at first.
01:02:05
Frank was in the bed just sleep and the, the fire woke him up
01:02:11
and he runs out the house and he looks and there's a figure
01:02:14
shooting at the other people. I did not realize it was Bill at
01:02:18
first Because he looked different, he carried himself
01:02:21
different and I was just like, okay?
01:02:24
So he's really bout that life like oh yeah I'm not about to
01:02:27
come and take everything that I build.
01:02:29
Y'all don't want this. Smoke is smoke.
01:02:32
He was standing in the middle of the street though.
01:02:34
I'm like bro hey all the prep you did he wasn't being hit the
01:02:38
only reason he got shot strength is Frank came out on the porch
01:02:44
and called his name and he was like, get back in the house.
01:02:48
He He's worried about Frank and he literally said this in the
01:02:51
scene before, you know, he said, I wasn't afraid.
01:02:54
He said I was never afraid until you, can't until you came along.
01:02:59
He didn't have anything. I have one grape.
01:03:01
He has a rifle with a scope on it.
01:03:03
Why are you standing in the middle of it?
01:03:05
Why are you staying in the middle of damn street?
01:03:07
Why aren't you at least, at least in the top floor of your
01:03:09
house? Like, picking people off from?
01:03:11
They're probably just grabbed the first thing that was there.
01:03:14
Once walked into the middle of the street with a rifle with a
01:03:17
scope. Anyone play very first person
01:03:22
shooter in the nose knows you get behind you behind cover set
01:03:26
up exactly the same rifle with a scope.
01:03:31
Hey, you fine. But if you had a hunting rifle
01:03:38
with a scope, you you behind something or you're in some
01:03:41
bushes or something and you're scoping them out and picking
01:03:44
them off like that. He said, been the top floor,
01:03:46
looking out the window, he can see out of them out there.
01:03:49
This pick him off but he has a scope where he doesn't have to
01:03:53
be in the middle of the street, close to them to see.
01:03:56
So ideas to get fucking shot and all the lives.
01:03:58
You can't tell me. He didn't have one had a night
01:04:01
vision scope. You can tell at all.
01:04:06
Yeah, he did. He probably grabbed the first
01:04:12
thing that went outside and start shooting.
01:04:14
It has this girl. No, but I mean think about it.
01:04:19
For their food. So the hunting rifle was
01:04:21
probably just upstairs and he probably just grabbed it.
01:04:24
And didn't think about he was just like oh y'all motherfuckers
01:04:27
coming to try to take my shit. Okay, let me walk out, he
01:04:30
probably wasn't thinking clearly.
01:04:32
Okay, head let's go. Okay, okay I mean he like Dirty
01:04:37
Harry everybody else got machine guns.
01:04:39
You don't come out there with one gun.
01:04:40
I got you, right? But anyways, I like we say he
01:04:46
gets distracted by Frank. Frank.
01:04:48
He gets Shot Frank brings them in the house.
01:04:51
Put them on the table. He starts trying to dig the
01:04:53
bullet out and Bill is like thinking, he's about to die.
01:04:56
He was like, I left instructions for you and I told, you know,
01:05:00
call Joel and dada dada, and Frank is just sitting there,
01:05:04
like, dude, we're not doing this, you ain't going nowhere,
01:05:07
we going to be good and then we see another time Jump.
01:05:10
Now, this time Jump made me sad because Bill is clearly alive.
01:05:17
But Frank is not in the best of health.
01:05:24
No, I thought for him. I can't tell if he had Ms or
01:05:29
like Lou Gehrig's Disease or something that was that was
01:05:32
inhibiting. His Mobility the generative.
01:05:36
Yeah, but I was like, oh man when he was painting that broke
01:05:39
my heart beat like can we go back a little bit?
01:05:42
Because that's what I thought. I thought that was the end for
01:05:44
Bill and Bill is sitting there like make sure you call Joe.
01:05:47
You can't stay here by yourself. You certainly can't stay here by
01:05:51
yourself. Someone needs to protect you.
01:05:53
I'm like, no, it's not gonna die right now in this time.
01:05:57
Table. So, I was happy to take your
01:06:00
time, Jump. So, at this point, it's been 20
01:06:03
years since it started and it does say 2023 at, you know, when
01:06:07
we get the time Jump, so it's present-day, like we said, Frank
01:06:11
is not doing well. He has some kind of degenerative
01:06:14
disease. He's in a wheel, he's
01:06:17
wheelchair-bound he's struggling to hold a paintbrush and we see
01:06:21
light from around their house and he's done a lot of pain.
01:06:25
Hit the house is like covered with his art.
01:06:29
But he is struggling now and I don't know.
01:06:33
It's like, you see him and Bill interacting with each other and
01:06:37
Bill is still trying to be strong for him.
01:06:39
And It was just, I felt like when he was at that easel, he
01:06:46
was trying to paint Bill and he couldn't, he couldn't get The
01:06:48
Strokes, right? And he was just looking at it.
01:06:50
And looking at how the painting wasn't going to do what he
01:06:56
wanted it to do. I was like, yeah, I feel like
01:07:00
he's made that decision. Then you see that you see the
01:07:03
method. Yeah, at dinner that night.
01:07:06
And you see how Bill has to struggle to take care of him.
01:07:09
You know how he has to lift them up in the bed.
01:07:11
And I think Bill slept through Frank having to go to the
01:07:15
bathroom the night before. So when Bill wakes up the next
01:07:18
morning, Frank is in his wheelchair and he's looking
01:07:20
like, oh, shit and Frank will let.
01:07:22
Yeah, it took me. A almost all night.
01:07:26
And, you know, Bill is like, oh, I'm sorry, you know, trying to
01:07:30
get him back in the bed and he was like, no, I'm going to sit
01:07:33
in this chair because this will be the last day.
01:07:36
I sit in this chair. I'm not doing this anymore. and
01:07:39
I was like, Here ya go with the breaking of our hearts and I
01:07:45
knew when he said it and they they were sitting there on the
01:07:49
couch and they were, you know, it's like Bill was trying to get
01:07:52
it in his mind like okay, how can I convince him not to do
01:07:55
this. And you can see Frank was
01:07:57
clearly at peace with the decision here.
01:07:59
Make he was like no I'm not going to keep doing this.
01:08:02
I just want one good day with your, who's like, if you love
01:08:04
me, you'll give me one perfect day.
01:08:06
He was like, we're going to go for a walk and going to go to
01:08:09
the batik. You going to pick out.
01:08:11
You got to wear what I pick out then we're going to get married.
01:08:14
That's why you, but then again, I guess it really doesn't matter
01:08:18
in that whole cynic like, you know, but he's like, we're going
01:08:23
to get married. We're going to come home, you're
01:08:25
going to cook us a fabulous dinner and then you're going to
01:08:28
grind up these pills right here for me.
01:08:30
Put them in my wine. And I'm going to go to sleep.
01:08:34
And I was like, I already knew I was like billing on me down with
01:08:38
this. No because he was struggling on
01:08:39
that couch. Yeah.
01:08:42
And after Frank outlined all of this and he was like, OK, we'll
01:08:47
do this. I was like, yeah, Bill and
01:08:49
making it out this episode either.
01:08:51
I was like because I just don't even though we only get them in
01:08:56
this one episode. I was like don't see Bill living
01:09:00
without Frank. Yeah.
01:09:03
Like Was the guy, why absolutely right?
01:09:08
They had, they had a full life life.
01:09:13
Yeah, there's like no point in Bill even going on.
01:09:15
It's like it. What?
01:09:16
So you can wait for someone else to come by and like now that's
01:09:19
not much care about. Anybody else coming by at this
01:09:23
point at all. Be like okay?
01:09:25
Yeah. You you oh you got here by
01:09:28
mistake Boston. Is that way?
01:09:30
Take your ass home. You cannot pass.
01:09:36
You cannot do. The perfect day.
01:09:50
That's what you wanted, and that's what they do.
01:09:51
They get dressed up real nice. You know, they go for a walk to
01:09:55
the boutique and get dressed up real nice.
01:09:58
They have their own little marriage ceremony.
01:10:02
And Bill fixes him dinner and it's the exact same dinner.
01:10:07
That he fixed them the first time they ate together and he's
01:10:12
got the wine and went especially when he did that.
01:10:16
I was like oh yeah they're both of them.
01:10:18
They're done. They're done.
01:10:20
Yeah I thought at first I was like please don't pull some
01:10:24
Romeo and Juliet type thing where Frank is planning to die
01:10:28
and Bill is like okay I'm going to die with him and then Frankie
01:10:31
Why? Oh, I don't want to leave you
01:10:33
alone. And I was so scared.
01:10:35
It was going to be something like that.
01:10:37
I was like, please don't do that.
01:10:39
Like, that will be a Twist, but that is not a Twist, right, for,
01:10:43
or BL be like, yeah, I gave it to you.
01:10:45
And you wake up the next morning, what?
01:10:47
What happened to you? I must then give you enough.
01:10:49
Let's try again tonight. Yeah, that would be cruel.
01:10:55
But yeah, so you see after they finish eating Bill goes back
01:11:02
into the kitchen. He comes back with another
01:11:04
bottle of wine and some some tall wine glasses and he makes a
01:11:10
show of pouring. The wine set in the bottle down,
01:11:15
pulling out, the bag of crushed pills dumping the whole bag in
01:11:20
the wine and giving it to Frank. And I think Frank knew at that
01:11:25
moment, but he didn't want to say anything like I guess in a
01:11:30
way not to break the spell. Well, he Downs the whole bottles
01:11:34
of wine. I mean the whole glass of wine
01:11:37
and then Bill does the same thing and he just looks a bill.
01:11:39
He was like there were already peeled in the wind.
01:11:42
Huh. Yep.
01:11:42
And enough to enough to kill a horse because he he didn't open
01:11:46
the bottle. The bottle is already open, when
01:11:48
he came here bottles already, when he came in the dining room,
01:11:52
so I knew it I was like, yeah, he already did something to that
01:11:54
wine. And when he when, when Frank
01:11:58
took it like to the head and you saw Looking at him, then he took
01:12:02
it to the head. I was like like I would like,
01:12:06
but like my heart felt he was too calm about it.
01:12:09
It was too calm and still didn't put up a last-minute.
01:12:13
No, don't believe that's why. I was like oh yeah, bill is
01:12:19
going on. This Joy Ride With You Frank and
01:12:21
Frank looks at him. He was like, I don't approve of
01:12:23
this, but, you know, when you think about it is kind of
01:12:27
romantic. So I even like the fact that
01:12:31
That they understood each other and Bill said, look, there's no
01:12:35
life for me here without you. He was like, I've had a full
01:12:38
life with you. I'm good.
01:12:41
I I'm so good with this. And so after all of that, Frank
01:12:46
tells them take me to bed. They, you know, he Wills them to
01:12:49
the bedroom, they closed the door and then the next thing we
01:12:53
see is Ellie and Joel. And I was like, Yeah, I can wait
01:13:00
a few more days, a few more days.
01:13:04
Ln. Joe, they come up to the, you
01:13:06
know, they come up to the town, they come up to the gate and Joe
01:13:08
has the the code to get in the gate.
01:13:12
And when they approached the house, he notices, how the
01:13:15
flowers in front of the yard have all died and how the the
01:13:19
grass is overgrown and hasn't been cut, like, literally the
01:13:23
house has not been taken care of the way that Frank took care of
01:13:25
the house. So I think, at that moment, he
01:13:27
knew something was wrong. They go in the house.
01:13:31
They start to look around the things on the table, the food on
01:13:36
the table. You know what was left of the
01:13:37
dinner has been touched. There's lots of dust on the
01:13:42
furniture. So I don't know how long it's
01:13:44
been. It's been, I can't remember what
01:13:47
the dates were from when they left the qz.
01:13:51
And I don't remember if they put a specific month, they didn't
01:13:54
get it. So, Joel starts going around the
01:14:01
house, he and Ellie there, they're looking around the
01:14:03
house, Joe goes to the bedroom and he tries to get in, but the
01:14:07
bedroom door is locked. And as he's doing that Ellie,
01:14:11
finds a note on the table with a key and when Joe comes back into
01:14:16
the room, Ilyas reading the note, when she was like well it
01:14:19
said to whom it may concern or Joel where we probably just
01:14:26
seems like I figured I'm the you know to whom it may concern.
01:14:31
And he asked if he was like so are they dead?
01:14:35
And she was like, yes and she reads them to know and basically
01:14:38
build is telling him like Joel. If you reading this, please
01:14:42
don't come into the bedroom. We opened up the window so they
01:14:45
wouldn't be a smell. Just leave us in peace.
01:14:48
You don't want it. You don't want to come in and
01:14:49
see what you may see. And he starts laying it out, you
01:14:53
can have anything, take anything you want, the gate cold, the
01:14:58
bunker cold, here's the key. That I take care, take care of
01:15:04
people, use what I, you know, use what I've left behind and as
01:15:08
Elias reading she stops and I was like, oh he mentioned
01:15:11
testing this letter because again at that point they didn't
01:15:14
know test was dead. Because test literally just died
01:15:17
what a day before two days before.
01:15:21
So Joe reads out the rest of the letter, he walks outside, and
01:15:24
then, you know, we see a little bit of emotion from him because
01:15:30
as Bill, It says in the letter he was like you know Joel I
01:15:32
never really liked you anyway but I feel like that was a lie
01:15:36
because why would you leave him all this stuff?
01:15:38
If you didn't if you don't like him anyway.
01:15:41
So he would he would he wouldn't give job dissatisfaction.
01:15:45
You can greatly because I respected you but I'm not going
01:15:50
to tell you. I like to but you know, Joel
01:15:54
goes into the garage and the truck is there.
01:15:57
The truck has been covered. It's in good condition, it's
01:16:00
missing a battery. So of course, he's upset.
01:16:01
Then he notices the refrigerator that's in the garage he goes in
01:16:06
and when I tell you this was prepared.
01:16:08
Yep. Joe was able to To build a
01:16:12
battery. They were able to get you know
01:16:15
items. There was there was even women's
01:16:18
clothes in the house, you know. For Ellie was able to get some
01:16:21
clothes. They probably belong to Bill's
01:16:24
mom or maybe a sister or something like that.
01:16:27
Hey so you got it from the boutique for test.
01:16:30
When test comes he got from the okay.
01:16:35
That makes sense. That makes sense.
01:16:39
They got hot water. L is like I'm taking a shower.
01:16:41
And you should, I mean, like I said, the bear is so cute and
01:16:47
then when when they finally in charge I'm shut out to Joel for
01:16:51
knowing how to build a battery like holy shit.
01:16:54
Hey ya ya, ya ya. I would expect nothing less.
01:16:58
Especially in the conditions they live in.
01:17:00
I would expect nothing less. You want to know what it takes
01:17:03
to make a battery. So if you need to make one, if
01:17:07
you get all the pieces for you can make one deer was
01:17:10
refrigerator and everything. You need to make it is there so
01:17:13
everything, yeah, right down to the saffir sulfuric acid like
01:17:18
everything was there. Everything.
01:17:21
But it was so cool because when they finally get in the truck,
01:17:24
when they finally packed the truck with the stuff that they
01:17:26
need, and they're getting ready to go, they get in the truck.
01:17:30
And again, Ellie is like, she's like a kid in a candy store.
01:17:33
She's never been truck. She's never been in the vehicle
01:17:37
and she's looking around. Oh, excuse me.
01:17:38
I forgot about her. Finding the gun in the house.
01:17:42
She found, she found a gun in one of the drawers and of
01:17:44
course, you know, throughout this whole episode ever since
01:17:47
she met Joel, she's been trying to get him to give her a gun,
01:17:49
okay? We went into the bunker.
01:17:52
He she was like, ooh and he's like, no right here and then the
01:17:57
music was playing because remember was at the end of the
01:18:00
first episode when they are out of the apartment, the music was
01:18:04
playing and it was that same song.
01:18:07
But yeah, Miss trouble that playlist from 70s them in
01:18:10
trouble. No 80s babies in trouble.
01:18:16
So and what did he say? It programs is Is programmed to
01:18:21
automatically start, this is not reset.
01:18:24
So that means the bill is not there to reset it.
01:18:26
It's going to it's going to play and it's going to keep on
01:18:29
playing. So, I would assume if you didn't
01:18:32
leave, when you hurt the first 80 song play.
01:18:35
The fact that 80 songs kept playing that would clue you
01:18:39
into. Oh, shit.
01:18:40
There's some problems at billion francs.
01:18:42
Yeah, right. But of course, they weren't
01:18:43
there. So, he didn't know.
01:18:45
He never know the radio came on because they had already left.
01:18:48
Yeah. But they're in the truck and
01:18:51
when he's telling her, when they're getting ready to leave,
01:18:53
he was like buckle your seatbelt and she's looking at him like
01:18:56
we're done. Well, that's a few.
01:18:58
I've got mad because I was like something.
01:19:00
So simple, as buckle your seatbelt and she's looking at
01:19:05
him, like, what the fuck are you talking about?
01:19:07
He's just looked at her kind of reaches over her, he gives it to
01:19:10
her, he was like, buckle your seatbelt.
01:19:13
And then she's like, oh, okay, this is I was like, wow, do I
01:19:19
feel So old right now. Then I had a jump-scare.
01:19:31
Does the suck the rearview mirror when she was moving it?
01:19:34
And that was like some about to jump out of somewhere and then
01:19:36
he comes looking at I'm like I jumped that was the weirdest
01:19:41
thing I don't know why I'm like well I put that in there but we
01:19:54
haven't seen a whole infected. Person in bills town and I don't
01:19:58
care what time it best bills town.
01:20:00
We haven't seen old infected person in that town of you gotta
01:20:03
jump scare. Yeah, it was a figment ation of
01:20:09
your imagination. But yes, so they getting a they
01:20:14
get in the truck, they take off and you know before that when
01:20:17
they're having the conversation and Joe realizes, what has been
01:20:23
left to him? He lays down some ground Rules
01:20:25
by L and he's like look my brother is in Wyoming somewhere.
01:20:29
He's in trouble, I'm going to find him.
01:20:31
He used to be a firefly so he probably knows the people that I
01:20:34
need to get you to. If you're going to go with me,
01:20:37
you gotta follow some rolls one. We don't need to, we don't need
01:20:40
to share our life experiences. I don't need to know about You
01:20:42
don't need to know about me because again, she has she is
01:20:45
curious. She's been asking him questions
01:20:46
about his past and stuff like that.
01:20:48
It's like we don't need to share.
01:20:51
You need to do everything. I tell you to do.
01:20:54
When I tell you to do, if you don't we're done.
01:20:59
So once they get those ground rules out, they get in the truck
01:21:02
like I said, they leave and they get on the road and she is just
01:21:07
looking around like, oh my God, this is the greatest thing ever.
01:21:10
And I'm just like They gave us the heart.
01:21:14
They gave us the, the love story.
01:21:16
They gave us the Heartbreak. Now, some shits about to go down
01:21:19
because, you know, that's how it always happens. but I, this was
01:21:28
This is how you do a story. A love story, right?
01:21:35
And this is how you do it. I don't want to call it a slow
01:21:38
burn because it's not like they were pining over each other for
01:21:40
years but this is how I this is how you tell a story like you
01:21:47
had and it really had nothing to do with Joel and Ellie.
01:21:53
But I still feel like it was important to the message of the
01:21:58
show, which, you know, has been saved as many people.
01:22:02
As you can do, what you can, you know, protect the people that
01:22:06
are around you, protect the people you care about.
01:22:09
But there is something to fight for, right?
01:22:13
Yeah. Right.
01:22:14
You know, he was like, look, he just he just walked in one day.
01:22:20
Accident. And I took a chance and it was
01:22:24
the best chance I ever took. Yeah, I won't stop ripping my
01:22:31
heart out but yeah, I was like, I was sitting there watching the
01:22:34
episode. There were moments where I like
01:22:36
teared up just a little bit. But for me the fact that I
01:22:40
didn't cry during this episode I was like that's kind of weird
01:22:43
because normally I'm a crier, he said don't be, don't be messing
01:22:47
with her. She if she cried it's that was
01:22:50
over there like they got me crying over here.
01:22:54
I didn't I couldn't because like I said, I felt like, I already
01:22:59
knew what was going to happen and I was just like yeah.
01:23:02
But it was the words to it, just to yes.
01:23:05
The things they said to each other.
01:23:06
Yeah, it was. They got me into my heart.
01:23:10
So, It was a beautiful epic shout out to Linda Ronstadt for
01:23:16
making several appearances. You know the funny thing about
01:23:20
that is I have like several Spotify playlist that I listen
01:23:24
to like at work and in the car and one of them is like an 80s
01:23:27
playlist. So for whatever reason she was
01:23:32
in the rotation a lot this weekend, I am not lying like
01:23:36
especially the song that she did with Aaron Neville.
01:23:41
Just like I think I heard don't know much okay yes I think that
01:23:46
came on like three times within the span of two hours, I was
01:23:49
like why this song playing so much so I don't know.
01:23:52
Maybe my Spotify was trying to foreshadow, what I was going to
01:23:54
hear but Yeah, I love this episode.
01:24:01
This is one of those episodes where it's like, I wish I could
01:24:03
watch it for the first time again because it was at his.
01:24:07
I was just excited to see Anna Torv again and hopefully we get
01:24:10
to keep seeing her all season. Even in flashbacks, that would
01:24:14
be just great. I love that.
01:24:16
I love it. Yeah, I mean, oh my God, but I
01:24:23
feel like also in a way I like the way that bill and Frank's
01:24:28
story ended, but also in a sense, I'm a little disappointed
01:24:34
as well because it's like when when Joel and test got Ellie,
01:24:43
and they had to make this track like, we've been hearing about
01:24:45
Bill and Frank. Since the first episode And
01:24:49
especially after last episode like chest was like, get her to
01:24:52
Bill and Frank, Jill get her to Bill and Frank.
01:24:55
And it's like, you have these two characters that seem like
01:24:58
they were going to be really important and they were But the
01:25:03
fact that when Joel and Ellie get there, they're already gone.
01:25:07
I was like, I felt. Yeah, he did in a way,
01:25:10
especially, since I've heard in the video game like supposedly
01:25:14
Bill and Ellie's interaction is a lot of fun in the game.
01:25:18
Their dialogue is supposed to be like, really clever, and really
01:25:22
witty. And I was like, I really want to
01:25:24
see that, but we didn't get that.
01:25:27
It's okay, but it's okay. Because like I said, yes, it was
01:25:32
State, what I'm hoping for is a background story for kids and
01:25:37
Joel. Can we get a flashback for
01:25:41
through the two of them, how they met and are real or No
01:25:48
Ordinary. Love You trying to steal my
01:25:51
thunder? Keep trying.
01:25:57
We'll be okay. Yeah, we'll be okay.
01:26:01
Oh yeah, this bear story. Kind of ended with his episode
01:26:06
and we just kind of see Joel and Ellie going off and into the the
01:26:10
the sunset. I'm just like I don't I don't
01:26:13
know what to expect now. So we don't know who they're
01:26:15
going to see. I mean, we know he's going to
01:26:17
look for his brother. But they got a while to go, his
01:26:22
brother is in Wyoming. Yeah, that's
01:26:39
enough gas to get from Boston to Wyoming.
01:26:43
I mean, depending on how how long it is, how many miles it
01:26:47
is? I mean, if they, if he has Drums
01:26:50
of gas on that truck. I mean, even in my little car I
01:26:54
can get 400 and something miles on my tank of gas, so never
01:26:59
know. Well we like that was a really
01:27:01
big truck. It was it wasn't like you know
01:27:04
that Behemoth The Anthony and Michelle on hey but he has a
01:27:08
huge tank. So we we've been able to do that
01:27:10
too. Perfect for the record Baltimore
01:27:14
to Boston is 401 miles. Okay.
01:27:17
So I'm going to assume he drove most Most of that way and ran
01:27:20
out of gas. Okay?
01:27:23
Because if he had he could have been maybe 300 350 and probably
01:27:27
started walking because Wyoming to Boston is 2130 miles.
01:27:33
Yes. Like, seriously, you gotta catch
01:27:35
a flight. This ain't just drive is no
01:27:38
taste. This morning, driving thing.
01:27:40
It's a 32-hour drive. If you go straight, if you try
01:27:42
to drive straight to it. Yeah.
01:27:44
Like where else do they have to do?
01:27:47
Get gas. That's what they got to do.
01:27:49
Just what they gonna have to do once they encounter people.
01:27:52
Well yeah, that but like I said I feel like Joel would have put
01:27:57
at least enough gas. You know, they had some drums, I
01:28:00
don't know how I'm sure they also have Provisions going to
01:28:06
Wyoming, because remember, if Tommy had been going back and
01:28:09
forth between their quarantine Zone and Wyoming, then chances
01:28:14
are just like Joe said, he had that.
01:28:16
Action that will store. He said, you know, we have
01:28:20
danced ashes along the way. We have stashes, you know, all
01:28:23
over the place just in case we get caught out here with no
01:28:26
supplies or if we need to hide. So, I'm sure there's probably
01:28:31
gas on the route that he's going to take, or on any alternative
01:28:35
route. He has to take because I'm
01:28:37
pretty sure, especially if Tommy was with the fireflies, they
01:28:40
don't have one way in. And one way out of wherever
01:28:44
they're going, I'm sure there are 'Well, you know, routes that
01:28:48
they can take just in case they get him to up here or, you know,
01:28:51
something happens there. So we have to fill it four times
01:28:56
in the Behemoth to get from boxes while yeah, this for this,
01:29:04
for this for fool Pink's, which is probably like three barrels.
01:29:11
Yeah, I do remember seeing that in a trunk?
01:29:14
Now I'm just saying, I don't remember what they have.
01:29:17
I'm like, I said they could have gas already on their way and
01:29:21
they probably have this, probably people that they know,
01:29:26
on the way like between fireflies.
01:29:29
I mean, that's his fire flies, but people like Frank building,
01:29:32
Frank, that that are holed up in different places Community,
01:29:38
probably I'm sure anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:29:42
But, I mean, you can't, you can't count count on a lot of
01:29:45
people. Help you out, because make it
01:29:48
out there all probably paranoid is flipped to.
01:29:50
But I mean it if you have established relationships.
01:29:53
Yeah. If they Network, the way that
01:29:56
test and Joel networks, I mean, again we talked about the fact
01:30:01
that Joel was pretty well-connected for somebody who
01:30:04
was inside. So I'm sure they have a network
01:30:08
out there of people that they can trust.
01:30:10
Yeah, he's getting narcotics from Atlanta.
01:30:14
Atlanta is true. So there's obviously, they work
01:30:18
all the way down to Atlanta, okay?
01:30:21
So I don't know what to expect for the rest of this, the
01:30:27
episodes. And I like being this, you know,
01:30:32
ignorance. I like it.
01:30:34
I like you too. It's funny how the people we
01:30:37
know their play. The game won't tell us shit,
01:30:40
they won't hurt, that's good. Oh, by the way, I don't know.
01:30:50
Has been renewed for season 2. We are getting the season 2 and
01:30:55
the headline that I saw. I think I was looking at, I
01:30:58
can't remember which publication it was.
01:31:00
But the online article said The Last of Us season 2 has been
01:31:05
renewed and game players. Know what's coming next and I
01:31:10
asked Carlos, I was like what's coming.
01:31:12
Now that's what a what. Company.
01:31:14
And I was like, no, I don't want to know.
01:31:15
So he walked into my office and he was like, do you wanna know?
01:31:19
No no, I did that for a video. We are watching and they just
01:31:22
gave us some back story to the point where we were.
01:31:25
And I said, okay, we can cut off now, let me just wait and find
01:31:28
out what happens. It was like, Hey I can't do it
01:31:34
because they have made it, they have made a point of saying that
01:31:41
the show will not deviate from From the story from the main
01:31:46
story, like they will have little deviations like the thing
01:31:49
with Bill and Frank. You know, that's something
01:31:51
that's different from the game but they said they will not
01:31:54
deviate Too Much from the storyline of the game.
01:31:57
And they will not go past where the game is.
01:32:01
So right now, like I said there's two video games for the
01:32:05
last of us. There's the first one in the
01:32:07
second. One from, from the little bit
01:32:10
that I have seen. The second season will probably
01:32:13
cover. Or whatever is in the second
01:32:15
game. And the only reaction I got from
01:32:18
Carlos was like, oh, y'all just need to be prepared.
01:32:24
Now, don't ya encouraging me and making me anxious at the same
01:32:30
time. You whatever, I can't man.
01:32:39
It's like this, like you, it's just people that you kill him,
01:32:41
he interesting to kill them. It's like damn, I don't like
01:32:44
being turned. Just like you pulled in
01:32:46
different directions. I just you know what?
01:32:49
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