#thelastofus In this episode, we begin our coverage of the new HBO Max series, The Last of Us. In the year 2003, a series of violent events introduces the start of a global pandemic caused by a fungal infection that turns humans into parasitic monsters intent on infected all living beings. Joel Miller, his brother Tommy, and daughter Sarah attempt to navigate through the blockades and widespread panic to get to safety when tragedy occurs. Twenty years later, Boston is a wasteland and Joel - in an attempt to escape the Quarantine Zone to search for his missing brother - unexpectedly finds himself tasked with smuggling a young girl out of the QZ to safety.
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What's up hybrid? Welcome back to another episode
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of The Phantom hybrid podcast. This is hanako and I am here
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with Anthony, Michelle Lori and Mike and we are discussing the
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new HBO Max series The Last of Us.
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Yes, we are covering it just like everyone else because this
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show is awesome and it deserves it.
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Like, we got to talk about it. So anyway, The Last of Us is a
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brand-new show. It Features, Pedro, Pascal, who
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most people know, as Oberyn Martell from Game of Thrones.
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Or as the Mandalorian, it also Stars, Bella Ramsey who was also
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on Game of Thrones as lyanna Mormont.
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And it's based off a hella popular video game called The
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Last of Us, we will be talking about the show Strictly as show
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viewers, none of us have played the game although Some of us
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know a little bit about what happens in the game, I think
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Michelle and Anthony's, they have a family member who plays
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that Mike has watched someone stream play it.
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But other than that we are coming to this with very fresh
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eyes knowing nothing about this universe and we're going to talk
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about the show. So let's get into it first
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reactions. You got me to watch a zombie
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show. You got me to watch a zombie, so
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damn it but I like it. Okay, as I'm I'm kind of with
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Lori is like when I was watching the first 30 minutes.
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I was like The Stereotype of black people in the movies.
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I was just like, don't go in there.
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She's getting up. What are you doing?
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Don't do that. Like I was watching the first 30
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minutes like this. Yeah, like my grandma's started
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stirring in a wheelchair. I was like, oh no, no, no, not
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even that she was. Stirring was those like her?
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Facial expression was almost blurry but you can see something
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happen. I was like, Mmm, Mmm.
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And this thing was fast. I was like, oh no, no no, no,
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no, no, I stopped. I was on my treadmill, I
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stopped. And I literally stopped walking,
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and I was watching the background with Grandma and I'm
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like, oh, this is getting good. I like turn around.
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Turn around and she didn't turn around.
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Like, oh, I was like, don't go in the kitchen.
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Don't go. It is it don't go towards the
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sounds. The sound don't, don't go
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towards those sounds, what's wrong with you?
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That's that was like, oh God, like I was like the dog is
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telling, you know, the doll. You.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you. Always listen to the dog.
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Always. Always always really dogs.
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Dogs can see shit that, nobody else can see.
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It's always been said, Said, dogs can see ghosts?
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They can see otherworldly beings when the dog was sitting there
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looking at the grandma liar. Huh.
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Let's go quietly or later when he did want to get put back into
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the house. I mean, he was like, let me go.
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It was like no help for do you. Not understand.
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Likewise this chick not listening to me.
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Let me tell you, I was like, you might I washed it, and I feel
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like that first 30 minutes was the most suspenseful 30 minutes.
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I can remember watching in a long time.
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I said, they're like this and the sad thing was okay.
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So they start out the show with this character will, this is not
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the code open. We'll talk about the cold open
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in a minute because I know Anthony had some issues with the
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fungi thing. Thing.
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But anyway, so they start out this show with this girl, this
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beautiful young girl, and, you know, it's a story about her
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father and we see the story for the first, like, 30 minutes of
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the show from her point of view. And when you start seeing this
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stuff, now, I already knew that his daughter was dead.
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That was something that I knew from the game, but I didn't
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know, like, how far into it, she died.
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So, at first, I, I wasn't thinking anything I was just
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like, okay, so we're going to see this from her point of view.
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And then I was like, as you started seeing things unfold, I
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was like, oh, y'all been that dude?
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It's not in the first episode. Doesn't even wait till the end
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that it was a shit in the middle of the episode.
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I was like, okay, so yeah, I just don't let us get attached
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to this girl and then y'all just gonna yank her out.
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Okay, that's cool. But the thing that I found out
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was apparently in the game will punches either because when you
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start the game, you play from this character's perspective,
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And then there's also from what I heard from Carlos who is one
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of Anthony's co-workers and one of our loyal listeners, he was
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like yeah, the way this gameplay is he said there's like two
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characters in the game that are both good guys and you can play
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as either one of them. But the thing is, they're trying
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to kill each other for various reasons or whatever.
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He was like and you're sitting there like are y'all really
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gonna make me do this? I said, oh, okay.
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So this is what we have to look forward to.
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Okay? Every feeling already know how
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that's going to work but I'm just like, okay.
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Anyway, but this girl, let me tell you where she was standing
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in the room, looking at the DVDs, like Mike said, when
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grandma's face started changing, and she started looking like
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something from one of these horror films.
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I was like, nope, I had to pause my TV.
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So many times during their first 30 minutes.
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Latin. I'm not really, I'm not ready
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because they did a good job of they gave us the jump-scares
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without the jump scares. Like you looking around every
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corner and also because I feel like everybody kind of figured
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this girl was gonna die. I mean, you, you start out that
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we already know. The show is about her dad and
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the other little girl. She's not anywhere in the promo
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so you know, she's not to die. I feel like every corner, she
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turned everything she did. I was like she's on the bus.
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Is the bus going to get her? Oh, she's here, jizz.
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I was just anticipating it the whole entire time, and I was
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sitting there, like, y'all can't be stressing me out like this,
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in the first 30 minutes. I can't, no, no, they had you on
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the edge of your seat and they gave you a little hint.
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So, you're like, okay, this will this be the point when she's in
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the school and a little girl hand is twitching?
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Yeah. Yeah, I thought that was like
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background. I'm like, they've up to six cool
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down and stuff happens at school.
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Okay, if it happened at school, you right?
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Is it on the bed? She gets on the bus after all
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that I was like, hmm. I must give started crawling.
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I was like, uh, no, but get off there but you see all them
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people around. I was like God did get the
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Lysol. Yo, come on man.
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I feel like they tried to trick us because they're showing us
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her doing all this stuff in her neighborhood but all the news
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reports that you hearing your hearing about Jakarta, you
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hearing about all these foreign places or different places,
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that's nowhere near them. So you're like, okay they try To
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make us feel safe. Like this is not going to bother
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them. I think this was the longest
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I've ever been like quiet in the beginning of the show.
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I don't think I say anything up until she was getting to watch
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fixed. Maybe a wife comes in, that's a
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no. Okay, somebody to happen because
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she calls me back at the shop and she still like, okay guess I
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don't to Dairy Queen, get some ice cream, then I go home.
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Nothing occurred to her. Like just you just like Hmm,
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that was weird. Oh well yeah, I guess I'll just
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Mosey my way on home. The thing is to, I don't know
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exactly how old Sarah is supposed to be, but she's
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looking at things, from a child's perspective is like she
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knows there's some weird stuff going on, but I think for her
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she didn't see people panicking like this wife.
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The watchmakers wife was the first person who had a little
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bit of urgency about herself, but like, when she's listening
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to the news that morning when Her dad, her uncle in the room
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and they're sitting there talking about, oh is Jakarta
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country. Oh yeah, I think it's a country
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in Asia and all this other stuff, they're having trivial
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conversation. Like they're not concerned about
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what's happening on the news. And I think it's kind of is
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reflective of us in real life because sometimes we can have
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the news going on in the background but if it's far away,
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that is not affecting us directly, we don't really pay
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and pay attention to. So it's like I told I told
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Michelle She's not watching. No one is watching the news now
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I oh wait. We don't we don't watch the
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museum. We have never felt we needed a
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report on Facebook or Tick-Tock I mean yeah.
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Or someone calls this is like did you see the news?
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No we don't watch the news. Every the best Tick-Tock in the
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world is like the world crumbling.
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You're like the world's crumbling around me.
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They make up a dance to it. They're just like yeah and even
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even when she got up and her dad wasn't there and on the TV is
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They stay indoors. You think that's what she
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started, panicking. That's what he's done.
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However she wasn't standing doors.
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You still like what's going on? Let me go, except she had to
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take the dog home even though it says stay indoors.
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The dog wanted to unheard want her to stay in with hit with it.
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Yeah. But that was like let me in
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close the door and sit your ass down so we don't get eat.
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So we're happened to her, don't happen to us.
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I think, at that point she probably was just thinking like
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Okay, you know what, you know, especially in the mind of a
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child, we always think, you know, what are we taught as
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kids, and that's like, dogs are supposed to protect us.
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So she already thinking, okay, there's these old people next
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door, there's Grandma who can't move, maybe Mercy needs to be
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over there to protect them and I just think she wasn't reading
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the cues because why is she trying to figure out why the
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hell her dad is not at home and it's 2:00 in the morning, you
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know, however, that Doubt, and I think she was just like, okay,
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like everything started happening at once.
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Like she walks outside and you've got the helicopters and
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you got this noise and I mean, she was awakened by like flashes
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of light, so I think really again, depending on her age and
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I'm guessing she might have been like late middle school, early
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high school. She was probably just like, what
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is going on plus she just woke up most of us are not at our
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best men. Too late, when we wake up, we're
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still trying to figure out which way is up when we get up in the
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morning. Right.
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And guess what it, we can discount her age because
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actually, there will be four year olds 50 year olds walking
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outside like what's going on? And then some of us are in the
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house with the blinds. Like I don't think you should go
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out there Johnny but sure you go out there so you might chasing
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him, I'm locking the door, right?
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So even older older people will be gone.
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Now there's some of us going out there to check on the dog.
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Dog. Check on the neighbors and the
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rest of us in the house, like I wait for you to come back and
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tell me what happened, right? But anyway, so let's go back to
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the cold open for this show, you have a talk show.
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You've got to scientists epidemiologists, and actually, I
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think both of them were epidemiologist.
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Because when the host is talking and he starts talking to, I
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don't remember the doctors names, but it's Christopher hiya
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doll. And John Hammond.
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Yes. And I'm sorry those two were
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always. They have certain characters
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that they are in my mind. So I'm sitting here looking at
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them and I'm just like Jonathan what are you stealing from the
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from the tomb today? Wait wait exactly.
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It's always thinking to I was the only thing I know this one.
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I know this one. Pandemics, you know, Ali enough
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and you've got one who's talking about what will happen?
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If you know a virus gets out of control and starts a pandemic
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and then you have a giant Hannah's character who's like,
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could be a virus. I think it'll be something Fred
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and as he's as he's giving his explanation, it's so funny
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because you see them panting to like the host and audience and
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the audience looks simultaneously transfixed and
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bored out of their skulls. But but also in This is like
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this is taking place in the 1960s.
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So we're all sitting there. Listening like he's using a
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whole bunch of big words and he's talking really fast with
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this British accent. And I'm just sitting here,
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listening trying to trying to keep up.
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And it's so funny because when he starts talking about fungi,
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it's so funny because Christopher higher dolls
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characters just like And it's funny watching these two
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Dynamics because you have these two people who are both very
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knowledgeable in their field, talking about the same thing
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happening like what would happen if a pandemic happened in this
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that and the other. But they're looking at it from
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two different perspectives and I was just sitting there like,
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yeah, it's gonna be the one that everybody's laughing at this
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going to rewrite the problem. Like, everybody always expects
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the one that's widely, thought of the one, you know, the Theory
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that's widely tested like okay yeah we're going to prepare for
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that. It's always the ones you don't
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know about coronavirus that sneaks up and shut shit down.
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And that's exactly what's going to believe that fungus creates
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all this. And then he had no hope like
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there's no cure friends. There's no cure Cyrano treat me.
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No nothing, nothing. Everybody's just looking at
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houses. Like, be right back, okay?
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Like, oh, aren't you a Debbie Downer but it's so funny because
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in our group chat put, it looks like a fun guy, really?
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It's a fungus. Guy like you're the same guy.
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Anthony you tell us, I love you and I'm science.
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Girl, I love it. It's something different because
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it's so different. It's different, it's different.
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It's something that you don't think of it.
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Something that could evolve. There's different things that it
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could evolve that we just never think of and I like how they
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threw in fungus and the way that he was very busy.
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So, It's a real thing is that actually does exactly what he
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said endures. Is he said we don't evolve that
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it gets people, right? Yeah.
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And this is, that's probably why how a lot of people received.
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Oh, thanks. Really?
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Yeah. Like what really thankful guy?
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All I was thinking about was be popping.
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All those little those puffball mushrooms.
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When I was a kid and I'm like, oh shit, I'm gonna die, not
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gonna die. Yeah, used to seem like it will
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cause no. I grew up out in the country.
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Maybe like these big puff balls move.
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So we dream to me, kicking. Yeah, but now, we're not doing
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that anymore. Like nah man or more than long.
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I see one that mole right around it.
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I don't like that's a weird pattern in your lawn.
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Anthony, don't worry about it. Just stay out of this town.
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The other thing about this beginning, I don't know who how
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HBO shows find their artists and their graphic designers, but
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this opening was creepy, but beautiful, I mean, slime mold.
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Yes. And the way that it just kind of
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fans out and I mean it looks pretty, but at the same time,
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it's so deadly. And that's, I feel like that's
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Kind of with the showing. This is like yeah, you know,
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even beautiful things can come out and kill you because it
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looks like just regular vegetation growing, but because
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we know what the nature of the show is, you look at it in a
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different light and then, of course, when it comes to that
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face, you know, the the emaciated face and you've got
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the, it was just, it's beautiful.
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And I was like, again, it puts me in the mind of the Game of
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Thrones opening. It puts me in the mind of the
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west-world opening, just these beautiful graphics and this
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beautiful art and is just. And then at the end, you know,
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you have these two little pods that pop up in.
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They're shaped like Joe and Ellie who's like pet is so cool.
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Let's take you too much credit each Bureau because it's how the
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game starts really. Okay.
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Okay yeah. It's like that's that's a rabbit
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hole that I've been down a couple times like looking at Two
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videos of slime mold like watching it creep along and like
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and just like like call over over logs and stuff is like, I'm
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not surprised it's cool shit, it's so fucking cool.
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It's like you see it like creeping over stuff and it's
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like extending and spider webbing all around.
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It's like that's actually pretty cool.
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It's like is unless you lose next thing.
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You know, it's like an hour and a half later, and you're just
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like, and you're basically as you were basically a slime mold
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zombie, looking at that shit. So, It's just a lot about me.
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But anyway, before I move on, I want to say, I did like the co
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opening, because from a person who watched shows like this by
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zombies or anything that's affected by science, I always
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want to know how or what it is and they didn't, you know, they
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gave it to me so that I can just enjoy the rest of the show and I
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try to figure out what is this, right?
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When it happened. Where did it happen?
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How is it affecting our body already?
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Got it. You gave me a Clear picture.
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Thinking about a certain other zombie show that we watch that
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still hasn't given us the other, the gives me nothing.
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I mean, I truly enjoy that show. I love it, but I would like to
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know those things and going into this show already getting this
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information is fantastic. So I can just enjoy the show and
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not have all these questions. I agree.
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I was like, oh, okay. So y'all are telling us how this
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what else they're telling us what it does.
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But yeah, we don't yet know like how it started where it started.
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I don't know what's going on with my camera.
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Hold on happening. Hanako is happening to her.
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I don't know what that was with my camera.
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I'm so sorry, but we're going to keep on.
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It's kind of like, you were saying What the cause is, but at
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the same time, we don't know what caused it like, what was
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the what was the event that exciting invited all of this,
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you know, everything we see. Well, I was listening to the
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official HBO, The Last of Us podcast today.
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I listened to a few different ones and they said that they're
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not going to come out right now and say exactly.
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But according to them, they told you exactly how it happened in
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the first We just got up, you just gotta pick up the clues.
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And so, I was listening to another official podcast and
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they were saying that, if you pay attention to what the family
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did, one of the things that they did is they didn't eat any
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gluten. If you notice, instead of me got
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KFC instead of fried, it was grilled.
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If you notice, he didn't eat any bread, she didn't eat any
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cookies. They were saying pancakes are
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pancakes. Exactly.
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They want to buy a cake, right? Do nothing with flour.
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The other thing is, is that me? Maybe she noticed that things
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were happening because when she's in the classroom, the
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teacher says that the quiz is tomorrow.
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But that's the Saturday, her classmate seems really fidgety,
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so they basically planted everything we need to know
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science-wise. You just got to pick it up and I
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thought that was fascinating. And what's your name?
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A oatmeal raisin cookies? Instead of chocolate chip.
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Cookies Zach's saved her life. Exactly.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Yeah. So I just thought that was I
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thought it was kind of cool actually that interesting.
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I did catch the teacher saying, there was a quiz tomorrow and
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then Dad later said, oh tomorrow Saturday and take him with me.
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I'm where is she going Saturday school?
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Yeah, maybe it was a, you know. Yeah, it may be that they
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teachers already infected so to speak because they are probably
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they said that you know it was in the city and they maybe they
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took you know Grandma to her medical appointments and stuff.
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But but he member the son-in-law was feeding.
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Grandma. Skits in the morning outside.
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Hmm. So yeah.
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He wasn't eating it. No she well you tried he put it
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in her mouth. Yeah, she was chilling.
00:22:22
So but yeah, no I thought that was very interesting.
00:22:24
They also said that the the federal people I guess in the
00:22:30
game they really don't give you a lot of information.
00:22:33
But I guess in the series they're going to give you pretty
00:22:36
much a whole backstory of how everything comes down.
00:22:40
But I was I said I was fascinated.
00:22:43
Dated because once I listen to The Fan One first and then I
00:22:46
listened to the official one and just the way that they broke it
00:22:49
down, so your this is probably one of the smarter ways to do a
00:22:54
show. Now the show that I used to
00:22:56
watch a little bit that I was fascinating.
00:22:58
Why was a show called The Last Ship?
00:23:01
And I used to love the way that they broke everything down and
00:23:06
I'm like this is sort of Because The Last Ship you on virus
00:23:08
steal, everyone's dead that sort of thing.
00:23:10
But for this I was like, okay, They're like, Michelle said,
00:23:14
they're going to be very smart with this show.
00:23:16
Very smart. Uh-huh.
00:23:18
Okay, I never would have thought, like I figured the food
00:23:23
thing was going to be important, but not to that extent.
00:23:27
I was just like, they just keep showing us like they're bringing
00:23:30
food into this a lot. But I wouldn't have thought,
00:23:33
like you said, like, everything they're eating is gluten-free
00:23:36
like and I guess because I don't have those sensitivities, I
00:23:41
don't even think about it. But again, it's kind of like her
00:23:43
watching the news, all that stuff was happening, far far
00:23:46
away. So she wasn't paying attention
00:23:48
to it. So it's like, I'm not thinking
00:23:50
about, oh, maybe, you know, he just about that kind of thing.
00:23:56
I was sitting here trying to figure out like okay, like did
00:23:58
she touch? Somebody, was it something dirty
00:24:01
on the bus or Or was it one of the Watchmen?
00:24:03
You know, that sort of thing like what what are the obvious
00:24:07
Clues? I guess and I wasn't looking for
00:24:10
the background stuff but that was that was pretty interesting.
00:24:15
So, okay, let's talk about these characters.
00:24:18
So the show starts out and it's about a man named Joe Miller.
00:24:23
And his daughter, Sarah his brother Tommy and let's talk
00:24:27
about the daughter, Sarah. Yes.
00:24:29
Looking at her trying to figure out was like I know her from
00:24:34
somewhere and I'm thinking it was her.
00:24:37
No, this is the child of Tandy Newton.
00:24:40
And I was like, oh yes, she absolutely stole her whole face,
00:24:43
right? Because I was watching and I did
00:24:46
talk. I was like, Anthony.
00:24:48
I think that's standing Newton's daughter.
00:24:51
I had to go look it up during the time.
00:24:52
I'm like she looks just like and they were like yes that is her
00:24:55
daughter. My God stole this Locker just
00:24:58
stole her face. Yeah, I saw a news article early
00:25:01
today. That's said that.
00:25:02
I was like, huh? That does look like her but
00:25:05
yeah, but you didn't mannerisms. Yeah, it's mannerisms to the
00:25:11
head. Turn away.
00:25:14
Exactly the child. Is she a child or an adult you
00:25:22
made the actress? Yeah.
00:25:24
Nicole Parker, because I don't know.
00:25:29
But she's 18. She's 18.
00:25:31
Okay. Okay, so yeah.
00:25:33
But she like, I kept looking at her, trying to figure out why
00:25:37
where I knew her from and then when she's in school and she's
00:25:41
riding, and she looks up, I was like, oh, that should have told
00:25:44
me right there. She looks exactly like her.
00:25:47
But anyway, so like I said, we start the story out with from,
00:25:51
Sarah's point of view. She's getting up is her father's
00:25:54
birthday and we see basically, you can tell the dynamic of the
00:25:59
relationship from start. Like she is E is the, she's the
00:26:03
little mother of the family. You know, it's obvious.
00:26:07
Dad, works hard to try to take care of them.
00:26:10
He's single parent, has his brother coming by, and, you
00:26:15
know, they all have seems like a really good relationship, you
00:26:19
know, they're all very playful with each other.
00:26:22
It's it, it seems like they're all in a pretty good place.
00:26:26
At this point, Sarah goes into her father's room right before
00:26:30
they leave for the day. She takes out a watch that's not
00:26:34
working as a money that he has in his drawer.
00:26:36
And this is one of the tasks that we see her go through
00:26:39
during the day. Like she's at school, she's
00:26:41
looking at the clock, she's waiting for, you know, the time
00:26:44
to go by. And after school, she goes to a
00:26:46
watch shop to get her father's watch repair and it's when she's
00:26:51
visiting this, watch shot that for her, The Dominoes start to
00:26:57
fall. Because while she's there like
00:26:58
you said, the wife comes out. She's like, oh no, we're closing
00:27:01
right now. Now husband is like we don't
00:27:03
close till seven, she tells him something in a different
00:27:05
language. She's like we're closing right
00:27:07
now. I was like okay baby.
00:27:09
That's your clue. And she told her.
00:27:11
She was like, you need to go straight home.
00:27:14
That's your clue. You need to go home.
00:27:16
Something's not right. As if the police cars and fire
00:27:21
trucks, whizzing by the clock. That's like a Hummer.
00:27:25
A Hummer with pesto to would be a sign.
00:27:29
Yeah. So hungry, like I should go.
00:27:33
Yeah. All right.
00:27:35
Right. But, you know, it's her dad's
00:27:38
birthday. She wants to do something nice
00:27:40
for him because as she says later, you wouldn't have done it
00:27:42
yourself. Just watch me something special
00:27:45
to him because of the reaction that he has when he opens it.
00:27:49
And then later on, in the show, we see that, even though the
00:27:52
watch is broken, you know, the show does a time Jump, 20 years,
00:27:56
he still wearing that watch. So the watch has some
00:27:59
significance for him but you know, we see them interact with
00:28:04
the next-door neighbors. Like you said fun is out front.
00:28:09
Feeding the mother mother-in-law, whatever.
00:28:11
She's apparently. She's disabled, she might have
00:28:16
you know, Dementia or whatever. She's non-responsive.
00:28:19
She doesn't talk. And she just kind of sits there
00:28:22
and they still talk to her and kind of engage her.
00:28:25
But, you know, she's just basically an old person in the
00:28:28
wheelchair at this point and apparently, Sarah goes over to
00:28:33
the house sometimes to kind of keep them company, you know, the
00:28:37
way things used to be, you know, I don't think we see a lot of
00:28:40
that. Now where the younger kids will
00:28:42
go to like the older. Neighbors houses, and like spend
00:28:45
time with them to make sure they're not by themselves and
00:28:48
that sort of thing. So, I felt like they were
00:28:52
showing us this part of her character because even though
00:28:55
she really doesn't want to go, you know, she's probably like
00:28:59
I'm going to have to listen to the same story again or I might
00:29:01
have to eat, you know, whatever they cook.
00:29:04
But I mean she goes over after school after she finishes with
00:29:08
the clock, she sits over there. She does her homework.
00:29:11
She chats with the neighbor and, you know, makes cookies with the
00:29:16
neighbor oatmeal raisin, or at least the neighbor is making
00:29:19
cookies, while she's in there. Doing homework and she's looking
00:29:22
for a DVD out of their DVD stack.
00:29:24
And that's when you see the grandmother sitting in the
00:29:27
wheelchair behind her and she starts doing this.
00:29:31
I'm and I'm trying to think there's a specific horror film
00:29:35
where a character does that with the face in the mouth.
00:29:39
And I cannot think of what it is now, but I was like, oh yeah,
00:29:42
you need to turn around and get out of there because you can
00:29:45
hear her like she starts kind of hitting her chest as she's
00:29:49
making noise. With the wheelchair.
00:29:54
Twins? No, not this child, she is so
00:29:57
focused on finding the right DVD.
00:30:00
She doesn't pay attention, and then she goes into the kitchen
00:30:04
and we see Grandma is still just sitting there doing whatever
00:30:09
when she gets ready to leave later on.
00:30:12
Like I said, the dog is sitting and looking at Grandma with the
00:30:15
head tilt. Like what the fuck?
00:30:20
Am I the only person who couldn't hear what that dog was
00:30:23
saying watching him. Oh no, that was that was the
00:30:26
creepiest thing and I couldn't turn away.
00:30:29
I'm sitting there going. Did you not see her face
00:30:31
literally and then the dogs like the hell?
00:30:35
I don't fuck with her mouth wide.
00:30:38
Open her mouth open like sitting in the bank.
00:30:50
I know that point grandma was back to normal.
00:30:54
She was just looking off into space, but I was trying to
00:30:57
figure out like I was looking at her like this.
00:31:00
She died in like. See, that's what I thought, gee,
00:31:04
I thought she died. Unfortunately, there are some
00:31:12
people who she could have easily been there and the dog just
00:31:17
sitting and looking like y'all, not gonna do Do nothing about
00:31:20
this but we don't know that was it was the most comical thing.
00:31:24
Just now that the difference with the zombies in this is that
00:31:28
the zombies. This is a parasite.
00:31:32
So they aren't dead. They are still alive, they're
00:31:35
zombies. Correct?
00:31:38
So yeah. So they're nagas is eating
00:31:41
right? Angus, is peasant.
00:31:43
Eating them from the inside, inside right there.
00:31:46
Like they called they said, they're basically animated
00:31:48
puppets. Yeah.
00:31:49
So you won't see any writing, but you'll see other stuff later
00:31:53
on in the episodes. But I thought that was
00:31:55
interesting. We don't talk about some of that
00:31:57
other stuff in this episode because okay, who is no, so I'm
00:32:01
assuming at that point, the parasite was taken over.
00:32:06
Over right? Yeah, yeah.
00:32:09
She was taking her movements and the dog was dog is like,
00:32:14
something's not right with Nana. She's not there, she's not even
00:32:18
the, my please give Nana, right? And, of course, Sarah is just
00:32:22
looking like, yeah. Okay, this is my cue to leave.
00:32:25
Like I'm not taking like, I felt like she was like, okay, you
00:32:28
know what, this is not part of what I do over here because of
00:32:32
course, again like I said, the woman is pretty much catatonic.
00:32:37
And Sarah, may not have known what to do with her, you know.
00:32:40
And sometimes for young people, even for older people having to
00:32:45
deal with someone who is in that kind of state can be
00:32:49
uncomfortable for some people because they don't know what to
00:32:53
do or they don't know the right response or how to react
00:32:56
properly. So she could have easily have
00:32:58
been like, okay well you know your daughter was over here,
00:33:01
taking care of you. I'm gonna go home wait for my
00:33:05
dad, you know, it's his birthday.
00:33:06
Today, he's supposed to be bringing a cake home.
00:33:09
I'm just going to go home. So, of course, she sitting there
00:33:14
at home late. Her father told her that
00:33:16
morning, he was going to be home by 9:00.
00:33:18
It's like, after 10:00 now. He's just getting home.
00:33:21
They have some banter. They, you know, she gives him
00:33:25
the present. She shows him the DVD which
00:33:29
apparently is one of his favorite movies and they settled
00:33:31
down to watch it. Now, of course, she falls asleep
00:33:34
after telling him that she's not going to, and as he still
00:33:37
watching the TV, whose brother calls he has been arrested.
00:33:42
Now, that was the other thing too, because brother, he was
00:33:44
like, look, I'm okay. And I was like, did he get bit?
00:33:48
But he get that because again, we still don't know how this
00:33:50
thing spreads. We don't, we have not seen any
00:33:53
of these reanimated people or whatever you want to call it.
00:33:56
The puppet. Well, we haven't seen any of
00:33:58
them at this point so we don't know exactly what the symptoms
00:34:03
are. But he starts telling his
00:34:06
brother that he got into a fight in a bar, you know, he was like
00:34:09
this guy started, you know, attacking the waitress and I
00:34:13
stopped him. But I got arrested after the
00:34:16
police came and you got to come get me out of jail because it's
00:34:20
Friday. Yeah, that's the thing it's
00:34:21
Friday and if you don't come get me, I'll be here all weekend and
00:34:26
it's going Daisy and here you got to come get me.
00:34:29
So he gives him this this sense of urgency and so his brothers
00:34:33
like, okay, he goes to put Sarah in the bed and we see the clock.
00:34:37
It's like, 11:00 he goes out. And then the next time we see
00:34:42
the clock is to Something in the morning, Sarah has turned over.
00:34:46
And that's when you see the flashing light, she wakes up.
00:34:48
She looks for her dad, she walks outside.
00:34:51
Because Mercy, He comes up on the window.
00:34:55
When I tell y'all, I was like out of all the things in this
00:35:00
episode, that would give me a jump scare.
00:35:04
It's the dog tapping on the window.
00:35:07
Like, excuse me, please let me in.
00:35:11
Does when he hit that window was so loud.
00:35:13
I was like wait what but you already on edge because at this
00:35:17
point, when Daddy got that call to go get his brother.
00:35:20
You like, oh shit. Something's going to happen
00:35:23
while she's by herself. Exactly.
00:35:26
And Dad is not going to be there.
00:35:27
Here we go. And that is what was going to
00:35:30
happen. You know the alternate what
00:35:33
actually happened was so much worse much worse.
00:35:37
But anyway, so like we said, Dog comes over.
00:35:42
She's trying to pet the dog, dog.
00:35:43
The dog is like wrapping itself around her.
00:35:46
Like protects me, keep me safe, as she goes around and looks at
00:35:53
our neighborhood. Now, of course, like you were
00:35:55
saying at the beginning of the episode Michelle.
00:35:57
Normally you see the neighbors out, trying to figure out what's
00:36:00
going on, whatever, whatever. Nobody is outside and streets.
00:36:04
So apparently everybody is heating to the emergency
00:36:07
broadcast system. With says, stay your ass and
00:36:09
doors. So she comes out she looks and
00:36:14
then when she sees her next-door neighbor's house, the front door
00:36:18
is wide open. And so she starts calling for a
00:36:22
mrs. Adler.
00:36:23
Now, this is the thing because that I think was the thing that
00:36:28
kept me suspenseful more than anything.
00:36:31
Because we know watching other movies TV shows having to deal
00:36:35
with zombies, they react to noise.
00:36:38
So she's just calling now. Names calling names, nobody is
00:36:42
saying anything, she walks into the house, and they show her
00:36:47
turn back towards the front door to look.
00:36:49
And you see the, the what do you call?
00:36:53
The Swinging Doors behind her. And it almost looks like
00:36:57
something is moving behind it, and I'm just sitting here, like,
00:37:00
run Ser Willis are. I'm like, holding my head in my
00:37:04
hands and just doing all kinds of things.
00:37:07
And she walks into the, you know, Swinging Doors and she
00:37:11
slips on blood. It's time to go now.
00:37:14
Fuck off. I understand her wanting to be
00:37:19
nosy because there is no yes no. I don't know of snapped, I'm
00:37:27
going home to we all understand the series would have been over
00:37:32
at that point you'll be like and I'm like, nope, roll credits.
00:37:40
The the man and he's on the floor, he's obviously injured,
00:37:45
he's bleeding. And he tells her he was like,
00:37:47
help me. And she's looking scared, but
00:37:52
she starts walking towards him. And as she walks towards him, he
00:37:57
starts pointing with his eyes, like look to the left, to the
00:38:01
left, to the left, she turns and looks and mrs.
00:38:07
Adler is on the ground and Nana is is biting her neck and when I
00:38:13
tell y'all, when she lifts up And she has hair in her mouth
00:38:19
in. The hair is actually moving.
00:38:23
I paused my TV and I had to wait like 15 minutes before I started
00:38:27
that shit again. I was like, I prefer I prefer my
00:38:31
zombies using 80 and not coming out of their mouth, that was
00:38:36
awesome. That was
00:39:16
Got to go back to, that makes it even more crows.
00:39:20
You can feel like I'm watching it now.
00:39:22
As long as you can see, you can see what she pulls up.
00:39:24
Slowly, you can see likes, you can see them moving in her
00:39:27
mouth. Yes.
00:39:28
Like something like I thought because she had been eating, you
00:39:35
know, when you eat, you're sitting there, you're moving the
00:39:37
inside of your mouth. I thought that was hair and it
00:39:40
was because she was still like, her tongue was still moving.
00:39:43
That's what I thought that was because the fruit and I looked
00:39:45
at it. Spaghetti spaghetti, I hate
00:40:02
y'all. I really do.
00:40:05
Y'all have been on a roll. I'm telling you.
00:40:11
Okay, hold on, I'm looking at it now.
00:40:22
She's going to have the virus to I mean the fungus teeth.
00:40:25
Oh my God, you guys are right? Yeah yeah.
00:40:32
No it was hair. Oh my God.
00:40:38
Girl here to move like that. No, it doesn't think it was the
00:40:44
actual hair that was moving. I thought that because she had
00:40:48
it in her mouth. I thought she was still like
00:40:50
chewing. And I thought, that's what was
00:40:52
causing the movement. Oh my God.
00:40:54
That is so gross. Yeah, that is.
00:40:57
So, but anyway, so saracen this very appropriately, the look of
00:41:04
shock. Well, I'm sorry that grandma
00:41:08
could walk a few hours ago when she sat up that should have been
00:41:12
your your, your your cue to get the fuck on.
00:41:16
But she Golf and Grandma took off after I said oh we deal with
00:41:21
some World War Z. Shit no right I'm still last
00:41:24
ones. Fuck not.
00:41:26
Yeah there's no you see you. My screen name is fast zombies
00:41:32
man man. May our minds like a mine is
00:41:37
look Grandma's walking. Hmm.
00:41:40
She didn't even have to walk. All she had to do was sit up.
00:41:43
First of all, the fact that Grandma is in the kitchen
00:41:47
without her wheelchair, like the wheelchair was still in the
00:41:50
living room. When Sarah walked in the house
00:41:52
that should have been your first clue.
00:41:54
No, excuse me. That should have been your
00:41:55
second clue. Mercy coming over looking at
00:41:58
you. Like please keep me away from
00:42:00
their house, that was the first clue and then when she tried to
00:42:03
bring Mercy, Mercy, took the fuck off running - was like, I'm
00:42:06
not going back to the house. So yeah.
00:42:09
Sarah hey. Plenty of crude Clues.
00:42:11
So anyway, yeah, and then and then, and then you get, then you
00:42:15
get, you get the lesson of not being a nosy, fucking neighbor
00:42:18
when they were driving away, and he hit the to hit the two,
00:42:21
zombies coming at them, and the neighbor came out.
00:42:23
I was like, oh my God, are you okay with a fucking flashlight?
00:42:26
I'm like, you deserve to get just gone.
00:42:28
Yeah. And Diana because we kind of
00:42:30
talked about the fact that is running out the house.
00:42:34
Her dad and her uncle pull up in the truck.
00:42:37
And first thing heard ass is getting the getting the truck
00:42:40
getting didn't ask more questions.
00:42:42
Then ask. Why are you out of the house?
00:42:44
He saw her. He was like getting drunk and
00:42:47
then Here Comes grandma. She trips on the porch, she
00:42:49
comes running after him and that dad and uncle a look-alike the
00:42:54
fuck. Are you ready?
00:42:57
Because he had a long wrench in his hand, he had a grandma and
00:43:06
of course, I'm so sorry, but we gotta go, we gotta go.
00:43:14
And then, of course, you know, you start seeing the flashes
00:43:17
from, you know, all the stuff happening and they get ready.
00:43:20
They go into the cul-de-sac and they turn around and one of the
00:43:25
neighbors Is comes out and Joel is telling her getting your
00:43:28
house and lock your doors. So when they turn around, of
00:43:31
course, mr. And mrs.
00:43:32
Adler have now come out of the house, they come towards the
00:43:35
truck and Tommy basically he hits them, runs them over, and
00:43:42
the neighbors exactly. So I was like about to die.
00:43:46
They do you, are you okay? Like they are you okay?
00:43:52
You ain't okay. You but you better become fungus
00:43:55
food. Right?
00:43:56
No, I'm out. And I'm so glad that like they
00:43:59
showed up at one time. Especially now that I know what
00:44:02
it is. Like, my skin is crawling right
00:44:04
now, but I don't need to see that again ever.
00:44:10
You good, right? You gave you don't have to see.
00:44:14
No zombie bites. Not those kind, mmm.
00:44:19
So Tommy and Joe and Sarah, they're in the truck, and
00:44:24
they're trying to get out of out of the area.
00:44:27
And of course, you know, traffic is blocked.
00:44:29
You've got helicopters, you've got, you know, they're going
00:44:33
down the street and one of the neighbors houses is on fire.
00:44:35
So they're sitting there trying to figure out what's going on
00:44:38
and they're talking to each other like okay, well they're
00:44:41
saying is starting to see these this and other and sadder is the
00:44:44
one who's sitting there thinking.
00:44:45
She was like, So they're saying it started in the city so they
00:44:50
took, they took Nana to the hospital.
00:44:54
So do I have to have to be exposed to them for long?
00:44:58
Like, she's sitting here, trying to figure out if she going to be
00:45:00
the one, the next one she did, she was running through.
00:45:03
She was running through every scenario that girl pay attention
00:45:06
in science class that day. She was trying to figure this
00:45:11
out, and of course she was, she was also trying to process the
00:45:15
fact that these people She knew these neighbors, you know,
00:45:19
people that she spent time with had turned into these things.
00:45:23
It was trying to either it's and was trying to eat her and then
00:45:29
they come across a couple on the side of the road who has a
00:45:32
child. Now, Tommy wants to stop.
00:45:35
Joel is like, no, keep going. Tom is like they haven't kid.
00:45:38
He's just so do we keep going? I was like, yeah, this is this
00:45:42
is the part of the story where you start to see who's gonna go,
00:45:45
what direction? Well we don't have time for that
00:45:48
right now though, that I lately is right now we're going to have
00:45:52
some tentacles coming out when you get in the car.
00:45:54
So we ain't getting we ain't picking up no strangers so sorry
00:45:58
about it. We don't know if Joe and Tommy
00:46:00
have seen, what happened? What it is up close.
00:46:03
Not not in the way that Sarah has.
00:46:05
They know something because the way they drove into that
00:46:08
driveway, they ain't even Parker.
00:46:10
They were on the grass and Tommy had his rifle out.
00:46:13
He was ready. So they know what I'm saying.
00:46:15
Is they probably saw The reanimated people walking, but
00:46:19
as far as seeing like that coming out of the my I don't
00:46:22
think they've gotten that close because at this point the way
00:46:25
they're talking about it, they still don't know what the fuck
00:46:28
it is. And they're saying the people on
00:46:29
the news, don't know what the fuck it is.
00:46:32
Like you started out as some violent incidents in the city
00:46:35
and then it just kind of blew up.
00:46:36
And of course everywhere that they're trying to go, traffic is
00:46:40
backed up. You've got helicopters going
00:46:43
over the traffic and I'm sorry. Any time you have a situation
00:46:48
like that? You already know things is
00:46:50
fucked up when the military is watching you on the street.
00:46:54
Not just not even just regular cop copters military.
00:46:58
Mmm it's over but this is the time for everyone to go, get
00:47:03
them a truck. Girl.
00:47:06
Yeah, four-wheel drive. Thank you.
00:47:08
Graham will be exactly and make sure and make sure that make
00:47:11
sure it runs, you know, road trying to flag somebody down,
00:47:16
trying to get out of town, like, you messed up like shit, you
00:47:20
best believe some shit go down. I'm coming around the corner to
00:47:23
Michelle and Anthony's house. I'm be like, just put me in the
00:47:25
back of the truck. Just put me in the back of the
00:47:27
truck because I'm sorry, we're not going to see the trash.
00:47:31
We gonna be all over the road in the grass, Mountain on the hill,
00:47:34
right? While they're driving, here
00:47:38
comes airplanes, very close to the ground like in succession.
00:47:45
And they're sitting here trying to figure out that, you know,
00:47:47
here comes the cops blocking traffic.
00:47:49
They try to go a different way. You got people spilling out into
00:47:53
the streets from the city, everybody's panicking this than
00:47:56
other. And Tommy again is trying to
00:47:59
stop because he's like I can't run these people over jawless
00:48:02
like run these fuckers over. We gotta, we gotta go we'll
00:48:07
we'll figure this shit out later.
00:48:10
They just narrowly avoid getting sideswiped by a truck and that
00:48:15
that was the point. I'm still sitting here like oh
00:48:17
my God, oh my God, oh my God, what's going to happen?
00:48:19
What's going to happen? So once they realize that the
00:48:24
path forward is blocked, there are some fire trucks.
00:48:27
This blocking of course, is people running the street.
00:48:30
They try to back up and Joe and Tommy are sitting in the front
00:48:35
seat, having be stupid. This conversation, we are having
00:48:43
the stupidest conversation and Tommy is like trying to drive.
00:48:47
Joel is trying to get him to go faster, which I know they're
00:48:50
panicking. Both panicking but is really
00:48:52
stupid. And in the meanwhile Sarah's in
00:48:55
the back seat, looking out the window.
00:48:56
And she's like guys, there's a plane like right behind us.
00:49:02
And this airplane crashes into the street explodes.
00:49:07
And then there's a piece of something from the plane that
00:49:11
crashes through the truck window and then the screen goes blank.
00:49:16
And at this point is like real Landing wheel from the plane.
00:49:20
Okay. Is that what it was?
00:49:21
Because I couldn't wait to see the ricocheted.
00:49:24
Off the building and hit them. Hit them.
00:49:26
Okay. Grab, you know this like I have
00:49:30
it planted a bad ground. It looked like in the crowd of
00:49:33
people, some of those people weren't, right.
00:49:37
But what do the walking a little funny?
00:49:39
They were attacking the other people.
00:49:42
So, yeah. Okay, you've already sprayed and
00:49:44
pretty. I couldn't tell if that's what
00:49:46
it was. Because again, I'm Pat, I'm
00:49:48
more. So paying attention to what's
00:49:50
happening in the truck. So I'm just thinking that
00:49:52
everybody is just kind of panicking out front.
00:49:55
Of course, you know, when it comes to something like that,
00:49:57
you're going to have people who are like, oh you're in my way, I
00:50:00
will throw you down or I'm gonna do this or You know, people who
00:50:04
are trying to pull you down, you're going to fight back.
00:50:06
And so that's what I'm thinking is going on.
00:50:10
I'm paying attention to what's going on in the truck because
00:50:13
every single moment that they are in this truck, I'm scared
00:50:17
serious about to die. So that's the only thing I'm
00:50:19
caring about now because I'm like, she's gonna die already
00:50:23
know. She's gonna die.
00:50:24
It's not all of it. Just like just a handful.
00:50:27
Okay, yeah and then just like just like some of them are like
00:50:30
there's some people try to run, you get away.
00:50:32
Way. And the like, the zombie
00:50:34
creatures, come out, come from the side, and Tackle him like a
00:50:36
linebacker then, I mean, that's like took them off their feet.
00:50:39
Like if as you get a crowd running, one way, it was like
00:50:42
one or two people going the opposite way, and those people
00:50:45
are not right, okay. And then something happened in
00:50:49
the movie theater because everyone took out running out of
00:50:52
the movie theater. Yeah, they walk out.
00:50:54
They ran. They ran out, they ran out
00:50:57
because that's a lot of people at midnight out in the street.
00:51:02
3:00 in the morning, my people out there in the streets.
00:51:06
Well, it's a Friday night. Rocky Horror Picture Show.
00:51:09
Oh, and it looks like they said, midnight, it said, Midnight
00:51:11
Madness. So they were doing something
00:51:13
that midnight. So, you know, it's a Friday
00:51:16
night. So some people are at the, you
00:51:18
know, at the bars at the restaurants at the movie
00:51:20
theater. But aside out to the person who
00:51:24
for them filming this, because it was a great scene.
00:51:27
I love it because it was very similar.
00:51:29
Well, as they say, it's exactly like the video game.
00:51:32
But it felt like a video game, but it made you immerse in it.
00:51:35
So I felt like I was in a truck with him and it's those long
00:51:38
shots that does it. That's why I was like, I'm only
00:51:41
paying attention to what's going on in truck, like, I'm looking
00:51:44
now, you in the truck with the with the people, but I wasn't
00:51:48
caring about them. The first two times I watch the
00:51:49
show, I was like, what's gonna happen to say even the second
00:51:52
viewing I'm still paying attention to what's going to
00:51:55
happen to sir. I already knew what happened at
00:51:57
this point, but I'm still right there in the truck.
00:52:00
Like okay, y'all need to go a different direction.
00:52:02
Actually I need to do this. Yeah, I need to do that.
00:52:04
Like I don't know what's coming up but I think that was just me
00:52:06
mentally trying to avoid what was about to happen.
00:52:11
But anyway like we say the truck you know the the wheel comes to
00:52:18
the truck the truck kind of turns over they all black out,
00:52:22
they come to Sarah's trying to see what's going on and she
00:52:27
happens to see a couple of people eating some of the other
00:52:31
people and her dad. It kind of gets her, don't look,
00:52:33
he takes her ankles out and when she when they get out of the
00:52:37
truck, her ankle is Twisted as at a really really bad ankles
00:52:43
angle. So you know she can't walk there
00:52:47
on one side of the truck. Uncle Tommy has gotten out on
00:52:50
the other side of the truck and he's got his gun so he's trying
00:52:53
to help protect them, you know, protect Sarah.
00:52:56
Since she's the youngest and Joel takes off running with her.
00:53:01
Now he goes into an alley and there's a guy sitting there
00:53:06
eating someone else and he happens to look up and a bunch
00:53:11
of them, but it was the one particular guy that I know, but
00:53:16
it's scary though, but it was a bunch of them eating on other
00:53:19
people, but it's so strange because the guy looks And he
00:53:25
moves kind of slow when he looks.
00:53:28
It's just kind of like ah, bitch.
00:53:32
Then he gets up and I was like, I'm not doing this.
00:53:37
The whole thing to the diner, I was just like oh God, no no no,
00:53:40
no, no, no, what it reminded me of it reminded me of the kids
00:53:48
Evading blue in Jurassic Park. Hmm.
00:53:52
Yeah. And also, it reminded me of
00:53:56
Zendaya out of MJ and Ned avoiding.
00:54:02
I forgot who it was that was chasing them about the Connor.
00:54:05
Yeah. Well, the lizard.
00:54:07
Connors. Yeah.
00:54:12
I mean these zombies can move, let me tell you miss like he
00:54:16
slid across the floor. The next thing you know, he's
00:54:18
like vaulting over like three booze at a time.
00:54:21
Yep. I'm like Olympic Style Style.
00:54:26
Let me tell you but luckily they don't have no coordination
00:54:29
because that's why I could just yeah, my Straight towards he
00:54:32
slide and he I'm bumping into things.
00:54:35
Thank goodness. They give me a head start.
00:54:37
He was going. Yeah but they got their guns
00:54:39
that recovery time on. Like they don't they'll trip and
00:54:42
fall, but then as they, once they recovered there on your ass
00:54:45
like in a hurry, like the, oh my God.
00:54:49
Right. But it so.
00:54:54
Okay. I'm trying to avoid this
00:54:56
problem. Okay, I can't.
00:54:57
So anyway, they run outside. The thing, runs after them, he
00:55:02
almost has them and it gets shot.
00:55:04
So Joel turns around and there's a military Soldier there within
00:55:09
the gun. And he tells them he's like look
00:55:12
we're not sick. My daughter hurt, her ankle
00:55:15
we're not sick. And so the the soldier gets on
00:55:18
the radio and it was at this point that I realized I was
00:55:24
like, okay, this is going to go in a different direction than
00:55:27
I'm used to seeing because usually in shows like this and
00:55:30
seems like this, you have the parent or the child who was
00:55:35
pleading with the soldier and, you know, the soldier kind of
00:55:37
looks at them and they're like for whatever.
00:55:40
A reason who I got a child at home or, or they just have some
00:55:43
Compassion or whatever and they usually let them pass.
00:55:48
It was very clear to me that was not going to happen in this
00:55:51
scene and I was just like, oh so is this what happens?
00:55:55
I didn't really think this was what it was going to be.
00:56:00
But the soldier gets on the radio, he get some orders and he
00:56:04
was like, are you sure? You know, basically, like say
00:56:07
that again, you want me to do what?
00:56:09
Okay, he gets off the radio and he you know, points the gun at
00:56:13
them again and Joel is like when I sick, we're not sick, please
00:56:17
don't do this. The soldiers, start shooting,
00:56:20
Joel takes off, they fall down a hill and the soldier follows
00:56:25
them. Is getting ready to shoot.
00:56:28
Joel. He was like, yo man, I'm sorry.
00:56:31
And then the soldier gets shot because Here Comes Uncle Tommy
00:56:34
to save the day. So as Joel is sitting here like
00:56:40
trying to wrap his mind around the fact that a soldier just
00:56:43
shot at them when they were healthy.
00:56:46
That's when Tommy looks at Sarah and realizes, oh, we got a big
00:56:52
problem. Sarah has been shot.
00:56:56
In the stomach. and, When we have to see this man, try to
00:57:07
pick up his child and she's like no no no because she's in so
00:57:11
much pain. I was just like so y'all just
00:57:15
really going to do this to us at the beginning.
00:57:17
At the beginning of the episode we're still 30 minutes in.
00:57:19
I think this episode was like an hour and 15 minutes.
00:57:23
I went 20 minutes, I was in my feelings.
00:57:27
I was like, yeah, actually shot this baby.
00:57:29
But I mean, I guess if, if I was in a situation similar
00:57:34
situation. I probably would have to because
00:57:38
you don't know like how many people are actually going to
00:57:43
walk up to some I said oh yeah I'm sick.
00:57:45
Nobody's going to do that even if they do but he could have go
00:57:48
behind the diner and give all those ones that's on the ground,
00:57:51
eating the other people and shoot that whole group right
00:57:54
there. First, they weren't going away
00:57:57
for a second. Got people, commit murders all
00:58:18
the way over. Here you go.
00:58:19
Stop beef with speed. They ain't you got nothing
00:58:21
better to do. My account, my money, I pay your
00:58:24
taxes, pay your rent. But, you know, the other thing,
00:58:28
too. You got to think about it is, if
00:58:30
you think about how quickly, mr. Adler turn.
00:58:35
Like, he literally was just sitting there on the ground
00:58:37
telling Sarah, help me. And then in the short time, it
00:58:41
took her to get outside, get in the truck and turn around in the
00:58:44
cul-de-sac, he was out in the street about to attack.
00:58:48
So maybe for that Soldier, he didn't know if they were sick
00:58:53
like again, we know that is a fungus.
00:58:58
We've seen how they transmit the fungus.
00:59:01
He doesn't know how long, Sarah might have been injured.
00:59:06
He doesn't know what might have happened.
00:59:08
They could turn. Turn.
00:59:09
And if what you say is true Anthony and they don't die, but
00:59:13
this thing just actually takes over that Soldier could have
00:59:17
been dead in seconds if he hadn't acted.
00:59:20
So I understand it. It still sucks though because
00:59:23
she's a kid. You don't like do you could have
00:59:28
I don't know you, you could have found them.
00:59:30
I don't know. I guess I was going to say you
00:59:32
could find a more humane way to do it but if quarantine but
00:59:37
there's no time and I know you say that.
00:59:53
Y'all are not sick but y'all The sick and I don't know and so my
00:59:57
Superior saying oh kill them and the superior could have been
01:00:02
telling him to kill anybody who's trying to come out to City
01:00:05
again. That's true if what you say is
01:00:07
true Anthony and I have to go back and look at the scene.
01:00:11
If you had sick people infected people running around in that
01:00:17
town. It could be anybody at this
01:00:20
point mmm-hmm It just sucks that it had to be her.
01:00:30
I was so upset, I was so upset, but I don't know.
01:00:37
I when we, before we started tonight, I was pulling up the
01:00:41
cast list and it says that she's into episode.
01:00:44
So I'm assuming we're going to get her back in a few other a
01:00:46
flashback scene or it, might be one of those scenes where he
01:00:50
sees a vision of her. So will at least see her one
01:00:54
more time. But I was she comes back as a
01:00:56
zombie in the finale. Don't play like that.
01:01:00
No, that would be pretty good. No, because I have a feeling if
01:01:06
he thought that that was something that would happen like
01:01:10
kind of like, you know, Michelle and I we watch The Walking Dead.
01:01:13
If you know that your loved one is going to come back as one of
01:01:16
those things, you go ahead and take care of it before that
01:01:19
happens because you don't want them to turn into that monster.
01:01:22
You don't want them to be that monster doesn't want his
01:01:24
daughter walking around, eating folks like that with the long.
01:01:28
No taking care of that. So no my best.
01:01:32
That's going to be one of your theories that we're going to
01:01:34
shoot down. And then we coming oh my coming
01:01:54
from. They coming the theories, they
01:01:57
come. Even though I'm sure they are,
01:01:59
I'm sure they are. So, oh my goodness, after we sit
01:02:05
there and watch Sarah died. We get a time job.
01:02:09
Oh my God, oh my God. Now, the original events when
01:02:14
Sarah dies and all that stuff, that takes place in 2003.
01:02:17
So this is when the world felt 2003.
01:02:20
So now, here we are 20 years later in Boston, 2023, current
01:02:26
times city of Boston, is just ravaged and it kind of looks
01:02:31
like, um, If you've seen the movie Warm Bodies, it's kind of
01:02:38
that way. Like they have the walls and
01:02:40
they have like the the lights and stuff outside and have
01:02:44
people on the walls and it kind of simple, it is very similar to
01:02:47
that. You have a quarantine Zone and
01:02:50
you have this one kid who was walking through the woods and
01:02:54
approaches this city, Now I wasn't sure about this kid at
01:02:59
first, I thought that maybe this was Ellie's origin story.
01:03:04
That's what I thought at first I was like, okay cuz you can't
01:03:07
really tell if the kid is a boy or girl.
01:03:12
Very bedraggled kind of walking. Not necessarily like they're
01:03:18
sick but walking like they are tired.
01:03:22
They are exhausted, they are hungry.
01:03:24
They might have been doing this for a long time if the child is
01:03:27
by themselves. So when they bring, I think it's
01:03:32
a boy at this point when they bring him in and the officer
01:03:35
sitting there talking to him, trying to ask questions about,
01:03:39
are you okay? Are you hurt?
01:03:41
Hurt you by yourself blah, blah blah and they test the child
01:03:46
with this. You know, I guess it's supposed
01:03:49
to detect the fungus in the body now.
01:03:54
I was thinking when it turned red that that meant the child
01:03:59
was - and I think they did that on purpose.
01:04:02
I thought that would you know when it turned ran the child was
01:04:05
- and they were like, okay, so we're going to give you some
01:04:07
medicine, we're going to give you food this and of and now
01:04:09
that part I was like, oh wait a minute.
01:04:13
Yeah, offering this kid, a whole bunch of stuff for someone who
01:04:17
just came in from the cold. Now, when she was she when she
01:04:20
said, you're safe now, I was like, ah, she's gone.
01:04:23
Ya did ya. And they gave, you know, they
01:04:27
gave him an injection of something I was like, okay, so
01:04:30
is this medicine or what Sleepytime medicine you sleepy
01:04:37
time medicine man. How about why is this like the
01:04:40
Pixar movie version of a zombie? Apocalypse like why we got to
01:04:44
have sad shit in the beginning. Like this.
01:04:46
Like like those heartbreak bit like I was just like oh man, we
01:04:51
like his daughter just died. Now we got this and little girl
01:04:54
look like Daphne Keen I was like oh they're killing x-23.
01:04:57
Why you gotta kill the extreme through?
01:04:58
Yes this laptop to I was like oh no man.
01:05:03
No. But after that we see some
01:05:06
people around like a concrete pit and basically what they're
01:05:09
doing is they're burning body. So I'm assuming these are bodies
01:05:11
of people who are infected Or people who have died in order
01:05:15
for them to kill the fungus. And there's this one woman there
01:05:19
and she sees another truck that's coming.
01:05:22
She goes over to the truck and she opens it and then we see
01:05:25
Joel come up and she looks at him.
01:05:29
She's like, I can't do it, I can't do it.
01:05:31
And when he turns around to the truck, it's that kid because you
01:05:35
notice the very distinct sneakers that the child was
01:05:38
wearing when they came in. So apparently.
01:05:40
Yes, they killed the child. So and this What I'm trying to
01:05:43
figure out I'm like okay. So do they take in people from
01:05:46
outside or you know it's one of those things where this child
01:05:51
was by himself. No other adults.
01:05:55
They could have easily done a check-up to see if the child was
01:05:59
sick. But that's what I that's what I
01:06:02
thought that was the yeah I'm guessing that's what that was
01:06:05
because like I said, when I first saw the red, you know
01:06:08
automatically you think green go red stop.
01:06:13
Green positive red - that's the way I was looking at it.
01:06:16
But no, it's actually the opposite.
01:06:19
Yes. As I know people in Greenies you
01:06:21
do raise. He's so when I saw the red I'm
01:06:25
like, is, like, greens good rate is wrong, right?
01:06:38
And they show you his knee. Her knee and you're like, okay
01:06:43
then they show you the sign of how long it's going to take to
01:06:46
be infected. I'll say okay well we bout to
01:06:49
kill the kid and I wondered because I notice a yeah, they
01:06:53
had all the bodies who did I wonder if they they do that
01:06:57
because that's where the fungus comes out.
01:07:01
Yeah. That will do think.
01:07:04
So, yeah. And then I was concern of the
01:07:06
burning of the bodies because then the fungus can spread in
01:07:09
the air, you have sports but then we learn later, if you, you
01:07:13
know, listen to the show Runners that they're not doing that,
01:07:16
they're not dealing with spores in the air.
01:07:17
So you don't have to worry about that.
01:07:19
But that's what my concern was. I'm like, we need some n95 mask
01:07:23
out here. Exactly.
01:07:24
Do you know it's hurts to cover up right back?
01:07:27
That's not good. It was one of those changes.
01:07:36
Okay. Okay.
01:07:42
Okay and I don't think inveigle won't.
01:07:45
You know the actors in gagging mask all the times?
01:07:49
It's like all yeah because I would her was yeah, and then it,
01:07:57
when you guys like you, Yeah, exactly.
01:08:03
Could anybody is like? Yeah.
01:08:07
So anyway, after this, you start to see a little bit of the
01:08:10
workings of their quarantines. Now, you get to see how they
01:08:16
earned their money, they are not even money, they earn ration
01:08:19
cards, you know, there's a military presence, everything is
01:08:23
heavily, controlled, you have people who are basically being
01:08:28
tried and executed at the Same time for unauthorized exit from
01:08:33
the quarantine zone. So I guess these are people who
01:08:36
were like, well yeah, you know, I want to be safe in here.
01:08:39
I'm going to go try my my luck out there like why?
01:08:45
But anyway, so I guess that's some of those bodies that we saw
01:08:48
to. But You have this one military
01:08:54
officer who kind of signals to Joel and then we find out Joel
01:08:58
has pretty much become a drug deal.
01:09:02
I mean, I guess you got to make your money.
01:09:06
Some kind of way. I mean just from what I got from
01:09:11
him in this later, part of the show he seems pretty hardened,
01:09:17
you know, I'm pretty sure that the death of his daughter.
01:09:20
I did some things to him and, you know, he's just basically
01:09:25
looks like he's trying to earn enough ration cards to do
01:09:30
something whether it's to escape or what, but he's, he's trying
01:09:34
to work the networks, and that's one of the things that we see
01:09:38
throughout this This episode like I feel like Joel keeps to
01:09:45
himself but he seems pretty important in a quiet way and it
01:09:51
seems like they're people are kind of scared of them to hmm.
01:09:56
I even even embed Network because, you know, later we see
01:10:00
someone's like, please tell him it was anxious here to maybe to
01:10:04
do, you know, she's like oh he'll listen to me the person
01:10:09
who stole the Hurry. He was scared you'd like, please
01:10:14
tell him, please don't forget. When you a drug dealer and you
01:10:29
ask for your bag back, you mean you scared but you can't get
01:10:32
another job like this guy because I get the bag bats.
01:10:40
It's short supplies like otherwise he probably had to
01:10:43
wrap them in like a piece in something, in a soccer,
01:10:45
something like trying to buy drugs, Bo is what a sock pills
01:10:50
I'm trying to get. I'm just concerned concerned
01:10:53
about what they bags been through.
01:10:55
Why so important. But you know, we're not going to
01:10:57
get into that discussion. I mean like I said it's a
01:11:02
shortage so he's probably like yeah I mean I need my baby I can
01:11:07
move some more yes move some more stuff but But it's a
01:11:11
process of how is being moved as well.
01:11:15
Oh no. That's not even.
01:11:18
Yeah, I think maybe that's why he wanted the bad that he's
01:11:23
like, yeah, y'all not stuff in this.
01:11:24
Ain't no. Give me my shit.
01:11:27
Oh my God intended, right? And why I got to be oxidized.
01:11:36
It wasn't it wasn't it was hot. He said hydro hydro.
01:11:40
Okay. From Elaine.
01:11:43
But okay, so in that next scene we meet test who is I guess his
01:11:50
girlfriend but she's the one that's negotiated with the guy
01:11:54
who stole the car battery from them.
01:11:56
So apparently Joe tried to get his car battery again for
01:12:00
whatever reason and the dude stole the battery from he's
01:12:03
like, please don't tell him he's going to come after me and that
01:12:06
I anticipate making it seem like she's in charge.
01:12:10
Like, oh my god, listen to me and blah blah blah.
01:12:13
So I'm thinking she's like the head of some Network whatever.
01:12:17
But first of all, I'm like, dude, you seem like you have a
01:12:20
whole bunch of our and people like you have pitchman like
01:12:25
she's about the battery. She's the one that's got the
01:12:27
black eye, right? That's what the concern was in
01:12:30
the batteries concerned about how those men handsome.
01:12:33
I know, but I'm seeing they were scared.
01:12:35
He was scared, but he's got hits me, it don't matter.
01:12:38
It's just Joe, wellnitz be into some Factory.
01:12:43
Y'all has been in the military. Yeah.
01:12:47
Because we saw that at the beginning, his history.
01:13:11
There's an explosion and when she comes to and she walks out,
01:13:16
of course, battery battery Stiller is long gone at this
01:13:20
point, she walks out and there is a military vehicle that has
01:13:24
been blown up. So one of the things that we see
01:13:28
when we when we get inside and we start to see what's going on.
01:13:32
Inside is there are emblems painted all over the place and
01:13:37
it is an emblem for a group called The fireflies and bees.
01:13:40
These are the rebels now. I will say towards the end of
01:13:46
the episode I'm still kind of sort of like, okay.
01:13:49
So what are the rebels supposed to be doing?
01:13:52
Like obviously they kidnap this girl.
01:13:57
Ellie because we see that in makes pain they appear to be
01:14:02
fighting the military that's within the walls.
01:14:06
So it's kind of like okay. So are you fighting for the
01:14:08
people? Are you fighting for Freedom?
01:14:11
Like are you do you guys feel like because of course anytime
01:14:14
you see a setup like this you have a group who feels like the
01:14:18
military is lying to you in the people in charge are lying to
01:14:21
you and they're keeping secrets and they're doing this to
01:14:24
control you which wouldn't be out of The norm.
01:14:28
That's kind of what? What does happen?
01:14:31
so, We get this introduction to Ellie's character and
01:14:37
immediately I was sitting here, like she can't be cussing like
01:14:40
this. She's too young.
01:14:42
And then I have to remember she's 19 now and I'm just like,
01:14:45
wait, what? Because she was 11 when she was
01:14:49
started in Game of Thrones? And I'm just like, yo, why are
01:14:56
those people, right? But anyway, Ellie seems to be a
01:15:01
tough little. Something they have her locked
01:15:04
up in a room chained. She doesn't know why no one's
01:15:08
telling her why they're giving her these little like I guess
01:15:13
cognitive test count from 1 to 10 slowly and so she does and
01:15:18
she ends it with a nice little flourish.
01:15:22
But But I feel like at this point, they're testing to see
01:15:26
what's going on with her. Like, if she sick or not.
01:15:31
So then we start to see a little bit more of the network after
01:15:36
we're introduced to Ellie, you see Joel, go to somebody and
01:15:41
give them cigarettes. And this guy seems to be a
01:15:44
person in charge like he's got radio equipment behind him.
01:15:48
People are in a long line, trying to see him.
01:15:51
So I'm guessing this, is the guy who's in charge of getting
01:15:55
things to people. And so, what's happening is Joel
01:16:01
is trying to figure out where his brother is his brother has
01:16:03
apparently been sent out. I don't know if it'll work for a
01:16:07
mission or whatever and he hasn't checked in and he wants
01:16:11
to go and find his brother and of course they're like oh we
01:16:13
can't let you go out blah blah blah blah blah.
01:16:16
So Joe being Joe, he goes back to his house and he starts
01:16:22
Figuring some shit out. He moves his dresser.
01:16:25
He's got guns. He's got this.
01:16:27
He's got that. He's got a map, and he's sitting
01:16:29
there plotting and he's taking some of his own pills.
01:16:33
Like, what it? What is the saying?
01:16:35
Don't get high on your own Supply and build you not
01:16:38
supposed to be taking this stuff and you chasing it with alcohol.
01:16:41
It's the one thing. Somebody said this about another
01:16:44
show, I think they were talking about supernatural.
01:16:48
There were like is it just me or do heritage?
01:16:51
Is not pay attention to the instructions on a pill bottle.
01:16:56
When it says, avoid alcohol, do not take with alcohol, like none
01:17:01
of these people always chase their pills with alcohol and
01:17:04
none of them have died yet. Well, Sam and Dean have, but not
01:17:08
from that, you know, it's just like, oh, okay.
01:17:14
But His character. I you know, it's one of those
01:17:21
things where we're given the impression that he is not
01:17:27
someone to fuck around with but I also feel like he it's almost
01:17:34
like he's not that in an obvious way.
01:17:38
Like he's very unassuming like he's not he's not one of these
01:17:41
people, he's not bulked up like he's not walking around.
01:17:44
Looking like the rock, he's not walking around with this mad
01:17:48
look on his face all the time. Like he's just going to beat
01:17:50
people up. He's just kind of there and
01:17:53
unassuming. And I think that's probably what
01:17:55
makes him dangerous as well. Because when you look at him,
01:17:58
this is not a person that you think.
01:18:00
Oh, I need to fear my life, you know, fear for my life from this
01:18:03
guy. But there was something else
01:18:07
that happened that I thought was interesting, since we've been
01:18:10
talking about the spores and stuff, did y'all notice?
01:18:14
When he moves the dresser to get the stuff from up under the
01:18:17
dresser? Did you notice how the camera
01:18:19
just kind of focused on the air and the dust that was going
01:18:22
around in the room? Yeah, I was like, I y'all trying
01:18:26
to throw us off? It's kind of like I was sitting
01:18:30
here thinking, like Anthony talking about going through the
01:18:32
fields and kicking the things. And that's what it reminded me
01:18:36
of, like, he moved the dresser and there's all this stuff and
01:18:39
literally, the camera is right there.
01:18:41
There's nothing else going on in the sand it.
01:18:43
And in the shot, there's no him. There's no movement.
01:18:47
There's just this dust moving. And I'm just, but the Sovereign
01:18:53
is a strength that they're not doing sports.
01:18:56
If that's what they clean. But we've had children exclaim,
01:19:01
all kinds of shit before and they was lies.
01:19:08
Well. I don't know.
01:19:11
I mean obviously he didn't get whatever was in the air, so I
01:19:15
don't think we have to worry about that right now.
01:19:18
But he wakes up in the morning because test has come home and
01:19:23
this is when she tells him about the guy who stole the battery
01:19:26
and this, that and the other. He's like, okay, we got to go
01:19:29
find Tommy but we need that battery for the truck and so
01:19:34
they decide to go looking for this guy through some old
01:19:39
tunnels and kind of like an underground Network that she
01:19:42
knows about. And again, it's one of those
01:19:45
things where I know he survives or at least he survives through
01:19:48
most of the show because we've seen different clips of him with
01:19:52
her, but why they were doing all this, I was just like, be
01:19:55
careful. Oh my God.
01:19:57
What are y'all doing? Don't go that it was, it was
01:19:59
just one of those things where it's like, they make you worry,
01:20:03
even though you're not like this is Joel, he's the main
01:20:07
character. I don't think well.
01:20:10
Let me not say that. I was gonna say he's the main
01:20:12
character. I don't think we have to worry
01:20:14
about him dying but this won't be the first time a show killed
01:20:16
off a main character. I love look.
01:20:20
You're giving me right now Anthony but when they get into
01:20:27
one of the rooms and she starts looking at it, she turns around
01:20:31
and she gets startled because one of these things being these,
01:20:36
whatever these things turn into once it like full.
01:20:41
Once the fungus fully engulfed, the person it's literally
01:20:44
splattered on the wall and there were so many things that were
01:20:48
going through my mind when I saw it.
01:20:51
But looking at that and looking at like the promo for what's
01:20:56
coming up in the season and just some of the other images I've
01:21:00
seen since they started promoting the show, I was like,
01:21:04
why are they bringing the cursed creatures from the Black Pearl
01:21:08
into this show because That's what they look like.
01:21:12
That's what they like. There was like he was part of
01:21:21
the ship. That's what I was reminded me of
01:21:25
I was like, oh, y'all are really gonna make my skin crawl this
01:21:28
season, because those things look gross. like they look like
01:21:35
Like all the things that's going on them and everything.
01:21:38
Like they look like they have Barnacles and all this other
01:21:42
stuff that's gross. I wonder if that's the fun guys,
01:21:47
final form. The one that was like, on the
01:21:50
wall, where was kind of spread the way that the way that the
01:21:53
intro was there probably? Yes in result.
01:21:58
Yeah, and I wonder if that's what kills them because it
01:22:01
didn't look like it didn't look like that form had been killed
01:22:06
in a traditional way, you know, like when we see, you know, the
01:22:10
walking dead or other zombie movies, like they kill him, you
01:22:13
know, with a shot to the head or they be Capitate them and
01:22:16
whatever this thing still looked kind of intact.
01:22:21
Even though he wasn't. I don't know what's just.
01:22:25
It was I mean this is this is the end.
01:22:28
This is after it has taken every part of you and yeah I guess
01:22:34
there's no less for them to eat on at that point, right?
01:22:37
Yeah, that's what yeah. But anyway, so what happens is
01:22:45
once they see this thing, they kind of go up some steps and
01:22:49
there's a secret entrance into this building and when they come
01:22:52
out the entrance they realize all of the people who were here
01:22:57
are dead. Now let's talk about these
01:23:00
people. This is the Firefly base and
01:23:04
we've seen some of these people earlier in the episode.
01:23:07
These are the people that are keeping Ellie hostage of course.
01:23:11
That point, we don't know that her name is Ellie.
01:23:13
She's telling them. Her name is Veronica and there
01:23:17
are some people here who are trying to figure out what their
01:23:20
mission is, what they're supposed to be doing.
01:23:22
And the leader, I can't remember her name.
01:23:27
Hold on, let me look it up, but the person who plays her
01:23:33
Marlene, the actress who was playing, her is actually the
01:23:38
original voice actors from the video game.
01:23:41
But she's cool. She's yeah, she's the leader of
01:23:45
the fireflies for this quarantine Zone.
01:23:49
And basically, what's happening at one point is her,
01:23:52
subordinates are questioning, what she's having them do their
01:23:57
questioning their mission, what they're supposed to be doing.
01:24:00
And she gets one of them alone and she tells them something
01:24:05
very important about Ellie. Important to the point where it
01:24:10
tell, where makes the girl be like, oh, okay, you know what?
01:24:13
Yeah, okay, look, we'll do whatever it is that you say, do
01:24:16
anything you want, we'll do it. So, at this point, when Joe and
01:24:21
test meet up, with these two women, like I said, everybody
01:24:25
else is dead including battery guy.
01:24:27
Battery guy's been shot in the face Marlene and the other chick
01:24:35
or in the hallway. It's obvious.
01:24:37
Marlene has been through whatever Skirmish just happened
01:24:40
and Ellie she runs out of the room and runs after Joe with the
01:24:47
knife and he just kind of disarms her very quickly and I
01:24:51
was like oh this friendship has gotten off to a really good
01:24:54
start like you just tried to kill him for no reason but she
01:24:57
probably thought he was with whoever just came through and
01:25:00
cleared house, but their interactions with each other is
01:25:06
interesting because she She is this smart mouth kid who
01:25:11
apparently just found out something very important about
01:25:14
herself. Because whatever Marlene told
01:25:16
her second in command, she also tells a lie and she knows Ellie,
01:25:21
like, who Ellie really is and part of Ellie's back story, is
01:25:27
that she's an orphan and she was placed in.
01:25:31
I guess they have a school where they are like training them to
01:25:36
become part of the military. And she ran away and was caught
01:25:43
and she just happened to be caught by defying Flies who need
01:25:49
her for, whatever purpose. And What happens is Marlene
01:25:56
tells Joel. Okay, so I know you were coming
01:25:59
to look for your battery. The battery was no good.
01:26:01
Anyway, now this is what I need for you to do.
01:26:06
I need you to take this girl and take her such a such you can
01:26:09
wait on your brother. I was like, hold on.
01:26:11
What? You telling me, I can't look for
01:26:14
my brother but I got to take care of this girl who I don't
01:26:17
know and take her to somewhere. You're telling me I have to go
01:26:20
and you won't even tell me why I had to If you tell me if, you
01:26:30
know, like, she can't even hear it.
01:26:32
Only just told test that his brother was missing.
01:26:36
So if you know, my brother is missing obviously you know that
01:26:41
there's something else going on. What are you not telling me?
01:26:46
Oh, I can't tell you that but this is what I need you to do.
01:26:49
I need you to take this girl and I need you to make sure she's
01:26:51
safe and she gets here and you have to keep her alive and blah,
01:26:55
blah blah, why? And this point, I'm going to
01:26:58
want to know some answers before I commit myself to this, because
01:27:00
now, it's like, Marlene is trying to get Joel to do this
01:27:04
thing. She's trying to get him to leave
01:27:06
the quarantine Zone. Take this girl to some other
01:27:08
fireflies who apparently it seems like Joel and Marlene Each
01:27:16
other. Like I don't know where Joe is
01:27:19
in this whole fireflies thing. I don't think he's a part of it,
01:27:25
but I don't need the he's not, he's not because I think they
01:27:28
tried, they tried to recruit his brother and he like, resents him
01:27:31
for it, because does he says some about what gonna catch some
01:27:35
about what they did to his brothers, like he won't forgive
01:27:38
him Fleet? He can't forgive employee or
01:27:40
something like that. Okay.
01:27:41
So, yeah, welcome. We both know what you're capable
01:27:47
of, right? So so he's there's some yeah.
01:27:51
So she knows he's going to get the job done and you know she
01:27:54
gave him a great incentive. Will get you all the things
01:27:57
materials you need. Yeah, get to your brother.
01:28:00
So he also told her she turned his brother against him.
01:28:03
Yes, he that was the thing. I was like, okay, so what
01:28:07
happened? But I mean, I haven't like you
01:28:10
said, I have a feeling. I was like, okay.
01:28:13
Tommy, probably joined the fireflies.
01:28:15
He's probably like, okay, you know what they're fighting.
01:28:18
I'm gonna fight that I and, you know because other than that, I
01:28:24
can't. I can't see two brothers who
01:28:27
went through the traumatic experience, that they went
01:28:30
through together. Having any other reason to be at
01:28:36
odds with one another, except for the fact that they're kind
01:28:39
of fighting on different sides. And that's why I was kind of
01:28:42
like when I got the information from our friend, Carlos about
01:28:48
two characters who are good characters, having to fight each
01:28:52
other and like kill each other. I is like, it's the brothers,
01:28:56
isn't it? He was like, I'm not saying, I'm
01:28:59
just saying there's two good characters.
01:29:01
I was like, it's the brothers bitches, the brothers.
01:29:05
So y'all are going to break our hearts even more by putting
01:29:08
these two brothers together after they've already.
01:29:11
Okay. Whatever.
01:29:13
Uh, this is, what y'all are going to do is switch all about?
01:29:17
Oh, yes. Okay, so I'm looking at the date
01:29:21
that's gonna sound looking at the Davy Jones creature.
01:29:25
Black brokerage but yeah you can see the fungus coming out of its
01:29:29
mouth and kind of stopped right there in the midst of all the
01:29:35
other stuff. So I may be what you said,
01:29:37
Michelle was, right? Like the fungus had nothing else
01:29:40
to feed on. And I don't know, maybe tried to
01:29:43
leave this body and there was nowhere for it to go because I
01:29:46
mean it's in a room that's full of concrete.
01:29:50
So there's nothing living in there for it to latch onto but
01:29:56
you got to imagine that's a painful way to go.
01:30:00
Just by the time you got there for the person was not I know
01:30:07
but still I mean they were gone you know the person has to be
01:30:11
present for at least some of that you know at least even the
01:30:15
initial infection, the initial taking over the body.
01:30:20
I mean the way it is with a lot of parasites especially ones
01:30:24
that we see in like science fiction and and these types of
01:30:28
stories like the host, Is still fully aware of what's going on
01:30:33
until they're not. And like I said, this one, this
01:30:38
one is, he's giving him giving you hallucinations, So you
01:30:43
you're there but, you know, you're on some island in the
01:30:47
Bahamas chilling. Yeah, I hope you don't know.
01:30:56
Hopefully you just release me in your life away.
01:31:00
Yeah. So anyway Ellie and Joel, like I
01:31:09
said, she already started off trying to kill him.
01:31:12
Then he finds out that he has to take her to wherever the rest of
01:31:16
these fireflies are so that she can be safe and that it's
01:31:20
important, but they won't tell him why.
01:31:22
And then like you said, Michelle, they'll give him
01:31:25
whatever he needs to find his brother so they go back to his
01:31:29
apartment. And test goes out to scout to
01:31:33
see the best route for them to take when they get ready to
01:31:36
escape. So you've got Joel and Ellie in
01:31:41
the apartment together. Joel is to the point where he's
01:31:44
like, I'm not paying you no attention.
01:31:46
I don't care about this and I was like, of course they would
01:31:49
stick The Man Who Lost His Daughter with a young girl to
01:31:52
take care of. He probably is like, I don't
01:31:55
want no part of this. I don't want the responsibility.
01:31:58
I don't want this bird. And, and she's just trying to
01:32:02
figure out like, I guess from whatever was told to her, she
01:32:08
just kind of like, okay, well, I didn't ask for any of this.
01:32:10
I didn't ask to be here, whatever, but they have this
01:32:16
interesting cold. Joel has an old radio in his
01:32:21
apartment and there is a billboard book.
01:32:25
What is a billboard book of great songs of the 80s or
01:32:29
something like that? Or A great Billboards greatest
01:32:31
hits or something. One of those kinds of trivial
01:32:35
books that people like us would actually love to look at and go
01:32:40
through and have fun with but Elliot realizes that there's a
01:32:45
code within the book. It like if a song from the 60s
01:32:48
comes on it, it says that you know, things are okay.
01:32:51
If a song from the 70s comes on, okay, things might be getting a
01:32:54
little hairy and apparently, she figures out that if a song
01:32:57
comes, On from the 80s. That means that there is trouble
01:33:01
and she learns this because when Joe wakes up from a nap she
01:33:06
tells him she was like, yeah, radio came on while you were
01:33:08
asleep. He was like, oh, what came on?
01:33:10
She was like, I don't know. Some song that was, like, wake
01:33:12
me up before you go and he was like, oh, love that.
01:33:17
She was like, oh, okay from the 80s danger, he just looking at
01:33:20
her. Like, did you really just
01:33:23
tricked me for this information? So not only is she Defiance
01:33:27
she's smart as hell to as she can.
01:33:28
Your things out. Okay.
01:33:32
All right, so this is going to be interesting because she's
01:33:36
probably going to be one of those kids.
01:33:38
And, of course, I don't know if this is the case, she's probably
01:33:40
going to be one of those kids who feels like she knows that
01:33:43
all she doesn't need a grown-up. Tell her what to do, especially
01:33:45
a grown-up who doesn't want to pay it to pay.
01:33:47
You know, who doesn't want to be with her in the first place?
01:33:49
He doesn't want to be around her in the first place.
01:33:52
I was like, yeah, they're about to get on each other's nerves,
01:33:54
for at least another episode. That's What they're about to do,
01:34:04
but um, I don't know. What did how do you guys feel
01:34:10
about the way? Ellie's character was
01:34:11
introduced. Like, obviously we know at the
01:34:14
end of the episode that something is going on with her,
01:34:18
to the point where she is infected, but she's not
01:34:24
exhibiting any of the symptoms. Apparently, she has some type of
01:34:28
immunity or at least we think she has some type of immunity.
01:34:32
But she said, As she was bit weeks ago and nothing has
01:34:34
happened. So it's not, it's not really
01:34:36
immunity. I don't think.
01:34:38
What do you think it is? Because he because remember they
01:34:41
escaped see me? She tested positive?
01:34:44
Hmm, I think it's a it's a non-lethal version.
01:34:48
Like she maybe has a mutated version of the fungus, hmm?
01:34:52
Okay. Benson's it be weird.
01:34:56
Okay, so I guess apparently, what they're trying to do is
01:35:00
they're trying to get her someplace where one should can
01:35:03
be safe because I mean, can you imagine somebody finding out
01:35:08
that she has the virus but she's not affected in the same way
01:35:13
that everybody else is. Yes.
01:35:16
But I can't trust this. I don't trust.
01:35:18
We want to just keep her safe. I trust that they want to
01:35:22
literally take Take her and do their own, you know that they
01:35:25
probably want to test? They probably search.
01:35:28
Yes, some experience, not lethal, right?
01:35:38
But they don't want Federal to do it.
01:35:40
They want to do it fireflies. So that's why I'm saying, it's
01:35:43
like a struggle. But I what your question was
01:35:45
about how she was introduced, I like how she was introduced
01:35:48
because we don't know. Really, the only thing we found
01:35:51
out was why I do. They have this young lady who's
01:35:54
cursing up a storm locked up, who hates counting backwards
01:35:58
teens. And then later we find out,
01:36:02
okay? She was an orphan and she was
01:36:04
placed. Why, why would that be a special
01:36:09
thing to be placed there. And then now something is
01:36:11
happening to her and she special and she only knows it because I
01:36:15
guess she whispered to her in her ear and now she knows why
01:36:19
Yes, she needs to go with them and stuff.
01:36:23
So I like how she was introduced in the middle of her story.
01:36:27
So I guess later we'll find out like how did she get to this
01:36:30
point? Yeah, but I mean she's a tough
01:36:37
kid. Yes yes she has to be you know
01:36:41
if you're grown up an orphan I'm and and she's only ever known
01:36:46
this world so she doesn't know anything different.
01:36:49
She's not me even when they were trying to get her out.
01:36:53
When they were smuggling that she was like oh my god I've
01:36:56
never been out here before. Like she had never been past the
01:36:58
walls ever. So she thought that was Oh cool.
01:37:03
Oh my goodness. I'm outside the walls, right?
01:37:07
Talking all. Not scuse me.
01:37:09
Y'all was sneaking out the city. What?
01:37:11
I know like, can you keep your indoor voice?
01:37:20
Everybody don't need to know that.
01:37:21
This is your first time outside the wall.
01:37:23
Oh, this is Sue's first time outside the wall, okay, but,
01:37:30
however, she knew when they got to that Soldier, if she was
01:37:34
tested What's going to happen because she was prepared.
01:37:38
And let me tell you, and the thing is, it was the same
01:37:42
soldier that Joel had sold the drugs and I think they were
01:37:48
negotiating, something earlier something having to do with a
01:37:51
truck. So I don't know if it was the
01:37:53
soldier and some other people were trying to get out with Joel
01:37:57
because of course, like we said, Joe was going to go look for his
01:38:00
brother regardless. The other guy told him, he was
01:38:03
like, yeah, we can't spare and you can't do this is dangerous.
01:38:06
And Joe was like, I'm going to find my brother Fife and I think
01:38:10
he made it. He made a deal with them and
01:38:14
he's going to get another vehicle.
01:38:15
That's like one of the retired Vehicles.
01:38:19
Okay? That's why they needed the
01:38:20
battery. The battery that was no good.
01:38:23
Huh? And him and that the soldiers
01:38:24
were going to get Him there to the vehicle.
01:38:29
Okay? Because we had to pay each one
01:38:31
to hundred dollars or something like that.
01:38:32
Yeah. But one of the things because
01:38:44
what did he say? Fedra is cracking down and is
01:38:49
hard to. It's hard to tell the difference
01:38:51
at night or something like that. So basically was like, look, I
01:38:55
kind of thought it was a threat at first and then I was like,
01:38:59
well, it could have been either or because I feel like in that
01:39:02
scene, Joel was really kind of not necessarily know.
01:39:11
He was. He was basically letting the
01:39:15
soldier know, like I hold all the cards here, you know, I'm
01:39:20
the one who's doing this, I'm the one who's figuring this out.
01:39:24
I'm the one who can can get whatever you need, you just need
01:39:27
to do such because they were paying him.
01:39:30
So that they could go with him. He was like, oh I'll take 200
01:39:33
for the other guys and then 200 for you.
01:39:36
It's like, hey, so what it's about this dude that you like,
01:39:41
oh yeah, you got to pay $200 all by yourself and then the other
01:39:45
four guys? Yeah, they 200 altogether, 50
01:39:49
bucks apiece and you got paid 200.
01:39:51
I think he was like, yeah, uh-huh, if you want to come out
01:39:54
with me you got to give me what I want, right?
01:39:58
And I felt like when the soldier said that, No, don't be out on
01:40:01
the streets over the next couple of nights because it might be
01:40:03
dangerous. That, you know, they can't tell
01:40:05
who's who in a way that was A Veiled Threat.
01:40:10
The Veiled Threat but he wasn't really gonna do nothing because,
01:40:12
you know, he needs his drugs from Atlanta, uh-oh.
01:40:19
But he did say, dude, I told you not to be out so it's like you
01:40:22
are my hands are tied, right? And you sitting there trying to
01:40:26
negotiate with him, there's that you got this.
01:40:28
Do scared. Like why are y'all sneaking out?
01:40:30
Like it's and it's not just you, it's you and a woman and a girl.
01:40:35
Like, why are y'all what? And then and it has some PTSD,
01:40:44
man. Let me tell you.
01:40:46
So first of all, the moment he was telling them to get on their
01:40:50
knees so he could test them and you see them hurt.
01:40:52
You CLE kind of panicking doesn't want to get tested and
01:40:57
she pulls that knife out of. She Jabs it in his leg he gets
01:41:01
up and he gets ready to shoot. And here you had Joel.
01:41:06
He's got a lie behind him and he's looking at him.
01:41:09
And in a uniform with a gun I was like, dude, you've been to
01:41:14
die. You can adopt a horrible death.
01:41:16
I already see it coming because that he does not see you.
01:41:21
Whoever you are, whoever you are to him however close y'all may
01:41:25
or may not be, he does not see you in this moment.
01:41:28
He sees the man that took his daughter from him and your ass
01:41:31
is about to die. And when he starts beating him,
01:41:37
Did you see the way Ellie came up behind?
01:41:40
She was looking. She was so interested in what he
01:41:43
was doing. Did you notice that?
01:41:46
Look, she was like yeah. Okay, I was like there's some
01:41:53
before Ellie I just like about about it now see her little
01:41:56
knife, you know, she cursed an upstart, she ready?
01:42:00
It should be getting mad when you take a knife, she would
01:42:02
like, motherfucker, get my damn night.
01:42:13
She's been taught to fight her entire life.
01:42:18
All her life. Come on.
01:42:35
Nice. I likey.
01:42:40
But yeah. So Joel kills the soldier.
01:42:45
And, and they leave and they go outside of the area.
01:42:50
And okay, somebody else mentioned this, people like,
01:42:53
that's a lot of structural damage and, and Devastation for
01:42:57
20 years, like you've got buildings collapsed on them.
01:43:01
So it looked like Chicago and Divergent know, it looked like,
01:43:07
you know, that look like Loki the place where they where they
01:43:11
send you when they did. You get that too?
01:43:14
Yeah. But it was just, I was like,
01:43:18
what in the world did y'all do to destroy the city like this?
01:43:21
Like did y'all send down bombs trying to?
01:43:24
And which they did, they probably did yeah RPGs?
01:43:29
Yeah, order yeah, everything. But the nooks and and there was
01:43:34
probably some type of because of the fireflies.
01:43:37
There was probably some sort of a civil war or armed Rebellion
01:43:43
against it. I mean, we Went through
01:43:45
something not as dramatic similar with the pandemic with
01:43:49
certain, you know, people not wanting to do certain things.
01:43:51
So, why not put it in the show? So I could see that happening.
01:43:55
And, you know, yeah, there's a lot of places specially really,
01:43:59
really big cities. Their infrastructure is already,
01:44:03
especially, lower class is already being held together with
01:44:06
spit, in the Mandate anyway, so right.
01:44:11
But yeah, they cross this fence and it says, warning.
01:44:15
Name, biological contamination area.
01:44:19
Oops, I don't know if that's where you want to go but then
01:44:22
right after this they show a scene of Joe's apartment and the
01:44:27
radio comes on and I can't remember what some I know Mike,
01:44:31
probably wrote it down. Might what song would they
01:44:32
prefer? Depeche Mode song?
01:44:35
Shoot yeah I love that song a song it's um but it's from the
01:44:45
air. Yes.
01:44:49
Never let me down again. Yeah, never let me down again.
01:44:53
Yes, you're right. Uh-huh.
01:44:56
Yeah, yeah. It's basically like okay,
01:44:59
there's danger. But now you're not there to to
01:45:04
hear that there's danger. So, I don't think they need to
01:45:07
hear. There's the answer they there.
01:45:09
You don't know if his own. Yeah.
01:45:11
They're in the danger zone. At least they have a gun.
01:45:14
Now, that's a softball Mike. I was going to did how I felt
01:45:23
uncle's. Head shake just like Mike just
01:45:24
please. I mean I was expecting.
01:45:31
I was expecting it, so that's the end of the episode.
01:45:39
Of course, with them walking into the contamination Zone.
01:45:43
And I was sitting there like like this episode was, like I
01:45:48
said, it was about an hour and 15 hour and 20 minutes, and I
01:45:52
was like, that's it, I wanted it to keep going.
01:45:58
Do you know where they had planned on ending?
01:46:01
It know they planned on ending it after he threw the little kid
01:46:09
in the fire. What you mean?
01:46:11
They plan on it. Oh, that was the original
01:46:14
episode. Don't have been like almost 40
01:46:20
minutes. Yeah.
01:46:21
Mmm. No.
01:46:23
Because it was supposed to be the representation, you know, 20
01:46:25
years later he was carrying his daughter the same way.
01:46:29
I'm glad they didn't end it. I would have been said.
01:46:31
Now you need to add a little bit more, they needed to.
01:46:34
Because if they want to just stop there, I feel like it
01:46:38
wouldn't have had As much of an impact as an episode as it did.
01:46:45
Yeah. I think it's Bureau people were
01:46:48
like, we need for y'all to introduce early in the first
01:46:51
half. Yeah, we need everyone to get
01:46:54
together in the first episode. Yeah.
01:46:58
But I mean when they're showing the previews after the episode
01:47:04
of like you know, in the weeks ahead, Again, these these do we
01:47:12
call them zombies like can week. I don't know what happens if
01:47:15
they're dead if they're infected.
01:47:19
Okay. This is called as the better,
01:47:20
okay? Because they're not dead your
01:47:25
life until you're not alive anymore.
01:47:28
The curse the Curse of the Black Pearl that cursed because that's
01:47:33
what they'll be. Where's because It is.
01:47:38
So it was so gross because one of the one of the previews
01:47:43
saying is that they show. There's this guy and he's been
01:47:47
crushed by concrete and he's got like the fungus like the little
01:47:51
tendrils coming out of his face and Ellie has the knife and
01:47:55
she's like going to it like she's got stabbed in the eye and
01:47:58
I was like why why are you playing with these things?
01:48:01
Like you would be fucked up if that thing and just kind of
01:48:05
pushed the concrete off of itself?
01:48:07
And came after you. I mean I don't know what it
01:48:09
would do because like, like she said, the wound that she has on
01:48:13
her arm. She got bitten or she got clawed
01:48:16
skin, pulled off, whatever, but it was three weeks old and they
01:48:20
had healed over. So I don't think he would have
01:48:23
done anything to her, but I was like why are you fucking with
01:48:27
things you don't live? What is Casey's favorite saying?
01:48:31
She made a whooping. Yeah.
01:48:33
Wow, why are you fucking with with, with the the the name?
01:48:37
Nasty, tenderly, man. Like why why?
01:48:41
And you would think that because she's infected like they
01:48:45
wouldn't bother her. But clearly they don't like
01:48:51
seriously the fungus is trying to spread so it's trying to
01:48:54
spread to people who are not infected.
01:48:56
However she's infected but see she's affected differently so
01:49:01
they still kind of feel like she not affected crop so that means
01:49:04
you need to stay away from them. Yeah, I'm sorry I did I miss
01:49:08
that part. What?
01:49:12
No, we're talking about the the preview at the end of the
01:49:15
episode where it says in the weeks ahead and we see them come
01:49:19
on. No I didn't watch that.
01:49:20
Okay yeah, okay. So it's just basically a some
01:49:24
clips from what's coming up in future episodes and some of the
01:49:28
some of the coverage I think we've already seen in like the
01:49:32
trailer and stuff like that but it's just the way that she
01:49:36
approaches them. It's like I know you're like you
01:49:40
say I don't know if it's immunity or if it's just
01:49:43
affecting you differently. Okay.
01:49:46
So one of the theories about Ellie is that she either is
01:49:51
completely immune or the official podcast said that she
01:49:55
has a different strain and the strain could mean that she is
01:50:00
either not as susceptible or she's completely turned all the
01:50:06
way. Just like some vampires turn but
01:50:09
can appear human and can It's so they said that she could be more
01:50:13
rabid and more dangerous, that the parasite inside of her is
01:50:18
fully grown and is working in tandem because they said that
01:50:22
when you are a puppet with this inside of you, is sort of like,
01:50:26
when you take a lot of LSD and they said that you are
01:50:29
completely wrapped in it, but you'll have moments of being
01:50:32
loose. I've never done LSD.
01:50:33
I'm just quoting what they said. So they re happens.
01:50:38
Right? Actually, I actually I never
01:50:39
have but maybe Um Haight-Ashbury aren't you?
01:50:44
Yeah, but never been. So they were saying that there
01:50:48
could be moments of being loose. It were you Greg realize that
01:50:51
there's something any also with her.
01:50:53
They're saying that she might be like, side-by-side with what's
01:50:57
ever inside her and I thought, well, wouldn't that be
01:50:59
interesting? If that's the case, then there
01:51:01
really and truly screwed? Because the one thing that's
01:51:03
been trying to avoid is now not only present but it's double or
01:51:08
triple, the danger. So, is went there.
01:51:11
Basically, suggesting is that she's living in a symbiotic
01:51:15
relationship with it. Yeah, yeah.
01:51:17
That was kind of what they were they were talking about.
01:51:20
Yeah, they said, that could be one of the possibilities and the
01:51:24
other thing that they said that I thought was fascinating, they
01:51:27
said, if you have some people they said our precognitive, you
01:51:32
know about certain things but they do things without realizing
01:51:35
it. If you go back to the beginning
01:51:36
in the episode, everything that the families did to avoid
01:51:39
gluten. If you notice the way that That
01:51:41
they did it with Joel Joel and he put Sarah to bed, didn't take
01:51:45
her shoes off. So, when they had to run, They
01:51:50
didn't have to stop. He had his tools in the car.
01:51:56
Yo, they went in, they need time.
01:51:58
Okay, so I will say this, I don't think that was necessarily
01:52:02
a design of him being prepared. I mean he's a construction
01:52:08
worker, we learned that at the beginning of the episode so he
01:52:10
would have tools in his car. I think, as far as not taking
01:52:15
her shoes off, I think that was more.
01:52:18
So just the oh I'll do that later.
01:52:21
I need to go get My brother out of jail because Tommy was
01:52:24
telling him, how bad things were getting you need to cut.
01:52:28
I mean, he literally say you need to not get me now now.
01:52:32
So I think that was more social. And okay, I'm just going to put
01:52:35
her in bed. I'm only going to step out, grab
01:52:37
him and come back. Like I don't think he was
01:52:40
expecting to be gone for a few hours which I don't know if
01:52:43
you've ever had to get anybody out of jail.
01:52:45
It's going to take a couple of hours.
01:52:47
No I almost but never know. Yes so I think I don't think
01:52:52
that was anything that was planned on his part like because
01:52:56
if you think about it, he was paying attention to the news
01:53:00
even less than she was at that, you know, during the days.
01:53:04
Yeah, that's I don't think that's true.
01:53:06
Really paying attention like they were making jokes about it.
01:53:08
Oh, that's taking place in Jakarta.
01:53:10
Oh, we're safe. You know, I don't think it was
01:53:12
that serious for him. He was probably just like, oh,
01:53:15
that's something that's happening over on the north side
01:53:17
of town or whatever the case may be.
01:53:19
So I don't, I don't think that was Planned at all.
01:53:23
It just it just happened to work out in his favor.
01:53:26
But I mean, I feel like even if she had had a shoes off before
01:53:32
she stepped outside to go next door, she probably would put her
01:53:34
shoes on. That's true.
01:53:36
That's true. That's true.
01:53:38
So So yeah, some some of the theories in this.
01:53:42
Like that's one of the reasons why I don't really listen to
01:53:46
other podcasts or anything else. Discussing shows that we're
01:53:49
going to talk about before we talk about them, because I don't
01:53:53
want that to influence my way of thinking, or I want to see if
01:53:57
I'm thinking somewhere along the lines of other people.
01:54:00
So I'm looking at it, like, oh, okay, so I wasn't too far off.
01:54:04
Now, we'll say the whole part about the symbiotic
01:54:07
relationship. No, if I feel like that's what
01:54:12
it is. But I also feel like because I
01:54:15
think that that's the the most unlikely of scenarios, that's
01:54:18
probably what it is. Especially, considering we
01:54:21
started out the episode with everybody.
01:54:23
Laughing about it being a fungus that starts this whole thing,
01:54:26
and that's actually what it is. So yeah, especially when he
01:54:31
said, well, what if happens if we just get a little bit warmer
01:54:33
temperature wise, he said that could kick it into the next
01:54:37
Evolution or say global warning, you know, So it's it's
01:54:41
interesting. I think that the biggest thing
01:54:44
that I took away from the two different podcast and reading
01:54:47
stuff online today is that this is on be show is going to be
01:54:51
very, very different from any zombie show that we've seen
01:54:53
because sore like closer to 12 Monkeys.
01:54:57
I guess they're going to be very very focused on trying to prove
01:55:01
you with a sciences and how the science could basically you
01:55:05
know. Pair out with what you think
01:55:09
you're going to see on the show, so I found it fascinating.
01:55:12
Okay. Is there?
01:55:15
Is there a show? No, no.
01:55:17
Some, this is short movie where there's like, a young girl, that
01:55:21
is like, affected with something and then like she has like a
01:55:27
relation is, and it's either zombies or some other kind of it
01:55:30
was vampires last year and I can't think of the name of it.
01:55:33
But yeah, but it is but it was, it was something like that and
01:55:37
she and she like, they were attacking and she kind of stood
01:55:41
there and they didn't attack because she was standing there
01:55:43
or something like that. Boise, you're thinking World
01:55:47
tells me. It was the vampires.
01:55:49
They they weren't they would not attack.
01:55:51
No. No.
01:55:52
And that was terminally sick. No, this was another one where
01:55:56
it's a show with a girl. Yeah.
01:55:58
And they were all sort of like, on the run.
01:55:59
Like this was. Yes.
01:56:01
She was in Vegas, not something. Yeah.
01:56:04
It was. She was a fan.
01:56:06
Well, I'm not going to lie and say, she's very bright, never
01:56:09
mind it was on, it was on Netflix because because that
01:56:13
theory makes sense because it's like if she if she is like
01:56:17
infected and part and partially that kind of creature like she
01:56:22
if she can like kind of communicate with them or tell
01:56:24
them when they won't attack or she can get them to stop
01:56:27
attacking her. Oh the girl with all the gifts.
01:56:30
Yeah we watch that girl. Yes.
01:56:31
Yes girl with all the gifts. Yes that's what it was.
01:56:34
Yeah. It was it was a fungal
01:56:41
infection. Okay.
01:57:11
Yeah. Okay.
01:57:15
What was that called again? The girl with all the gifts, the
01:57:19
girl, with me with all the gifts, I have to go look that up
01:57:24
and take a look. Yes, she got bitten.
01:57:27
Yeah. Oh yeah, because it spreads by
01:57:31
bodily fluids. Okay.
01:57:34
Yeah, because like I said, I remember it because it was one
01:57:37
of those things where I meant to watch it but of course, knowing
01:57:41
me I got busy with something else or forgot about.
01:57:44
Out or just got too tired. But yeah, they that's one of the
01:57:49
newer. Not well, maybe that new things
01:57:50
but that's one of the themes they've been doing a lot of
01:57:52
stuff with lately, you know? Either, they're infected or
01:57:56
their, the child is someone who's a demigod or God or there?
01:58:01
You know, something along the lines were they're just special
01:58:03
enough that they need protection.
01:58:06
So okay. All right.
01:58:10
Now, something Lori said earlier that I'm concerned about with
01:58:14
the directors changing because I like the direction they're going
01:58:18
with. So hopefully they stay the same
01:58:20
because just talking to someone plays video game.
01:58:22
There was a lot of scenes that were exactly like I mean, yeah,
01:58:27
yeah, yeah, I have heard that as well grip.
01:58:30
I mean, just dialogue everything and they enjoyed that so I'm
01:58:34
hoping that they I mean, even the t-shirt that Sarah was
01:58:39
wearing was from against exactly.
01:58:41
Yep. Almost like, wow.
01:58:43
They really, they just change the year on the back of the
01:58:46
shirt. That's it.
01:58:48
Hmm. And I guess they went what they
01:58:50
were side by side is that they're planning to stick to the
01:58:55
story as it is told in the video games and they are not going
01:58:58
past where the video games are. It's so and I think there's two,
01:59:02
there's two of us, two of The Last of Us.
01:59:06
Video games. So I was like, okay.
01:59:10
But, you know, I've seen all the, you know, comparisons I've
01:59:13
seen all the memes like Netflix. This is how you do a video game
01:59:17
and the adaptation not like you did Resident Evil like I just,
01:59:24
yeah, I think. Yeah, I saw that one today too.
01:59:26
And they were saying this. Yeah.
01:59:28
But you know it's funny because usually when you think video
01:59:32
games, you know, especially the last four or five years, you
01:59:35
lose like it. But The Witcher came out and
01:59:38
I've never played that game as a day of my life, never read the
01:59:42
books and I love it. It's just, you know, they've
01:59:46
done such good jobs with this stuff lately that it's sort of
01:59:50
mind-boggling especially as someone who has never been a
01:59:53
gamer. So, but I've heard a lot of
01:59:57
people talk about the show in a positive way.
02:00:02
And of course, you have those detractors.
02:00:05
Because I have heard, you know, the typical old Tommy doesn't
02:00:09
look like Tommy looks in the game and Sarah doesn't look like
02:00:13
Sarah. Looks in the game and blah, blah
02:00:16
blah. And they shouldn't have changed
02:00:17
this. And I'm just like Like you, you
02:00:21
expect you spec. Total accuracy is like I mean
02:00:25
unless unless they were, there was fashioned after a real actor
02:00:31
and they couldn't get that actor, then I can understand it.
02:00:34
But it's like I'm sure they didn't have Pedro, Pascal in
02:00:37
mind when they made this character.
02:00:39
So it's like it's not like Uncharted where it's like they
02:00:45
like they basically made the game.
02:00:48
So Nathan Fillion could play the.
02:00:50
The main part, but they end up putting Tom Holland in there and
02:00:53
nobody liked the movie, but it's like anything yet.
02:00:56
So it's not as bad as people think, but it's like, but my
02:00:59
boobs like my point is it's like young, unless, unless the cuz
02:01:04
like they're certain certain examples in the video game world
02:01:07
like, like, I think Dave but Dave, Batista actually, they
02:01:10
actually caught like captured a Batista's face for Gears of War
02:01:16
and like they're there are other like other people like they
02:01:19
like, Get the actors face, like, Snoop Dogg's than a few times
02:01:22
for like Grand Theft Auto, and things like that.
02:01:25
So it's like, unless you actually get the person that
02:01:27
they mow capture for the part in the video game, it's like
02:01:31
they're going to look different. So it's like, I mean, just get
02:01:36
over it. My whole thing is and I guess
02:01:38
that's one of the reasons to why I'm glad I'm not a fan of the
02:01:43
game or haven't played the game because I have no preconceived
02:01:46
ideas coming into the show is just basically about the story
02:01:51
that they're telling and the performance by the actors and I
02:01:56
have no complaints so far. You know, I don't know how that
02:02:00
will change going into. I think this this show has 10
02:02:03
episodes. So I don't know how that would
02:02:05
change in future episodes, but for a first episode, I was, I
02:02:12
was highly impressed. And, you know, we talked about
02:02:14
this all the time, A lot of times with shows, especially new
02:02:18
shows you have to give it some times for five episodes before
02:02:22
you decide. Okay.
02:02:24
Yes, I'm all in for this show and I don't think anybody's
02:02:28
going to have Do that with this show.
02:02:29
Like if you aren't so by. Now, just looking at the
02:02:33
preview, for the episodes coming up, oh, you will be at least by
02:02:37
the next episode. Just just the first half hour
02:02:41
watching Sara, you know, not, you know, I didn't look anything
02:02:45
up until like halfway through the episode.
02:02:48
I Paul said I wouldn't look though, because I questions but
02:02:50
seriously just watching her go throughout her day and you get
02:02:54
that instant sense of something's not, right, what's
02:02:57
going on? I mean, She's in the back of the
02:02:59
car and she's thinking to herself, you know, I well first
02:03:02
I was afraid she was going to jump out of the car because
02:03:03
she's like well if I'm infected I don't want to get my dad and
02:03:06
uncle. In fact I might as well try to
02:03:08
off myself if she had that look in her eye.
02:03:10
I mean, just the way that they shot it in the way that the girl
02:03:14
acted I'm sitting there going, they've got me watching a zombie
02:03:18
show and I never watch zombies shows.
02:03:20
And I'm sitting there and I'm going, I want to watch episode
02:03:23
again and I never do that. So it was just that good.
02:03:28
This is actually made me kind of just want to start watching
02:03:31
Walking Dead. I was not going that far.
02:03:32
Come on, come on. We can you already halfway?
02:03:36
Watch it with me now. Well we read in my mind these
02:03:39
are not zombies so it's not a zombie show.
02:03:42
Yeah I can see that. Yeah no I just I just said I I
02:03:46
collected Walking Dead you know comic book form and you know my
02:03:50
jam is more vampire stuff so but I can appreciate what they did
02:03:55
with the show. I think they did an awesome job
02:03:57
to take it Forward because I'm I did see the pilot at WonderCon
02:04:00
when it first came out that first year, but this is unlike
02:04:05
anything, this is a little different because they're not
02:04:07
technically dead. So it could you can treat it
02:04:11
almost like, okay, if I'm using the wrong movie, correct?
02:04:15
Me and Andromeda, Strain. Maybe a little bit or am I using
02:04:18
that wrong? I don't think I've ever seen
02:04:21
that one. But I get where you're going, I
02:04:25
get where you're going with that comparison.
02:04:27
So yeah, I think so. I guess my question is, if this
02:04:32
is an infection, if it is a parasite, is this something that
02:04:36
can be cured. Like I'm going to assume that as
02:04:39
of right now 20 years and they still haven't figured that out
02:04:42
and I'm I'm assuming this is probably what they're going to
02:04:46
try to use Ellie for but it's like I guess I feel like and I
02:04:51
thought about this with like, say I am Legend, you know,
02:04:56
towards the end of that movie, it appeared that he had found a
02:04:59
cure for this vampirism. That was affecting these people,
02:05:03
but it's like, how do you go back to being a regular person
02:05:07
after you have been consuming humans for?
02:05:11
However, long it's been since you turn You can't, but I don't,
02:05:17
I don't think that they're not eating humans to just passing
02:05:22
the parasite along. Okay, and I guess their side
02:05:28
because we only saw the one instance where that was actually
02:05:31
happening. You know, again, this is being
02:05:35
promoted as a zombie show. So when you think zombies, what
02:05:38
do you think brains and that sort of thing.
02:05:41
So I guess they really promoting as a zombie show that?
02:05:45
Yeah, I think that's, I think that's even the description
02:05:48
between, and some other may not be How They are promoting it.
02:05:54
I have seen and described as like a zombie show.
02:05:57
Yeah, but that could be because that they're not, I'll ask, but
02:06:02
I don't think they're consuming humans.
02:06:05
I think there is just passing the fiction around.
02:06:08
All right. And that was like, they're
02:06:10
breaking them, they're not, they're not like I actually okay
02:06:14
good. Just the tentacles are coming
02:06:16
out and spreading inside the purse inside view of the person.
02:06:19
That's why we're you get B. If it's closer to your brain is
02:06:23
faster than if Is your leg. It takes a while for it to get
02:06:27
there. Gotcha, okay.
02:06:29
And then that's why he they had that whole setup with that code
02:06:32
opening with him. Talking about it because it's
02:06:36
saying that the fungus is eating.
02:06:37
You. Yeah.
02:06:39
Seeing you but you're not going to make it.
02:06:42
If you've been infected for some time maybe we can give it to
02:06:47
some you know a vaccine so you won't catch it but the ones who
02:06:51
are on that red radar, you're done.
02:06:54
Yeah. It just get the sleepy time tea.
02:06:56
We don't we don't have that kind for fungal infections.
02:07:01
Maybe three moons of treatments for them, but we don't have from
02:07:07
that mistake. We don't have vaccines for fun
02:07:09
with patience. The dance is widespread in the
02:07:12
first place? Anybody can G athlete's foot.
02:07:15
Let me at least a fungal infection and he's just worried
02:07:18
you can you imagine how did you how did the fungal infection
02:07:22
start? Oh I had jock itch.
02:07:24
I mean just like I had a ring. in worm, just I got it from the
02:07:33
brave, I mean, that's what I'm saying.
02:07:34
What does food have to do with it?
02:07:36
Like, was it in my food? Do they have mushrooms on my
02:07:39
steak? I mean, what happened.
02:07:41
They were stay, were suggesting that the spores were based off
02:07:45
of something that grew out of like, wheat or like, you know,
02:07:50
like, yeah. So they were sick and, you know,
02:07:51
there goes the gluten. Yeah, yeah.
02:07:54
The gluten. See some, some of the sports
02:07:56
like bread mold. For instance, basically what
02:07:59
they were saying. Yeah, that's what that's why
02:08:00
Michelle was like The Mustang which was it then.
02:08:04
Yeah. Feels like Grandma's biscuits
02:08:06
that she didn't really want to eat and they were force it down
02:08:08
her throat so they still left her alone.
02:08:10
Is that started with somebody who didn't know how to cook.
02:08:19
Just just think this whole, this all could have been avoided if
02:08:21
they were to use garlic powder, onion powder.
02:08:24
Yeah. Little bit of paprika.
02:08:26
Yeah. Most pleasing than that.
02:08:29
Y'all to be. All right.
02:08:37
Because she was the main character in Fringe.
02:08:40
Yes, that's why I know. Okay, that's right.
02:08:44
Yes. Wow.
02:08:53
They dated all either she's aged or they do a lot of makeup on
02:08:56
her because I did not recognize her at all.
02:08:58
Well, I mean think about it. You kind of had a black eye like
02:09:02
Kind of got your loving of we first saw you.
02:09:04
Yeah, that's a lot of meat. You did not cause she looked
02:09:07
more like the girl from the woman from Orange is the New
02:09:09
Black because I was thinking oh she's in something this.
02:09:12
Wow they did a really good job. Yeah.
02:09:15
Yeah I can tell by her voice when she was talking about that
02:09:17
battery. Hmm, it's like oh that's my
02:09:19
French lady boy. I tell you that battery, a whole
02:09:24
bunch of problems then it were you know, you know how I feel
02:09:29
about zombies shows. Yes, we do.
02:09:31
I didn't even think We're gonna you were going to do this one
02:09:35
but not a zombie zombies. And I like video games and those
02:09:40
video game, I haven't played it because I don't have a
02:09:43
PlayStation 3 and the Xbox whatever death to console
02:09:49
exclusives. I just want to be.
02:09:52
So what before the movies, movies that I really have, liked
02:09:58
better like this, the Lone Wolf and Cub, Beeping.
02:10:03
Oh it's you know this this is going to be that with him and
02:10:07
her and makes me think of Logan. Yeah, that's exactly what I was
02:10:12
thinking, too Road to Perdition is another one and if you recall
02:10:16
you jumbo, I mean it's kind of cable fessional.
02:10:19
Yeah. The Professional Cable and hope
02:10:21
during Big's men when they were no more mutants and you had her
02:10:25
taking her around. So I like so like this because
02:10:30
it's a common story. Three.
02:10:32
But it's always told in a different way and I really like
02:10:36
how this one is being told like he and he ends up taking care of
02:10:39
her. But in the end she ends up
02:10:40
taking care of him which is kind of what I was doing at the
02:10:43
beginning. So but all the lone wolves in
02:10:46
these movies and shows have one thing in common, they died
02:10:54
throughout this apron, prepare yourself.
02:10:57
I will say this, as long as he's not doing good and he dies
02:11:01
because he's Mana. Logging too long.
02:11:03
As long as that doesn't happen. We're good, we're good.
02:11:07
Michael, you not that far into Game of Thrones yet so you have
02:11:10
no idea what I'm talking about. But yeah, as long as a monologue
02:11:14
forever he should be. Okay, I'll go to the wedding.
02:11:21
So many weddings in this version of present day.
02:11:28
Not too many venues not too many.
02:11:30
Yeah. Okay.
02:11:32
Have a reception when you think somebody's going to tend to cool
02:11:35
their way in No. So anyway, I think we can all
02:11:43
agree. This is a show that we will
02:11:44
continue to watch and that we will continue to cover and
02:11:48
discover. So yeah, I can't get 10K.
02:11:53
I'm even though even though I'm still going to be the, I can
02:11:58
already see. I'm just going to be, I'm going
02:11:59
to be yelling at my screen. My neighbors?
02:12:00
Gonna think I'm absolutely out of my fucking mind.
02:12:03
Yes, I think we're all. They're like, no, don't go in
02:12:07
there. With you.
02:12:10
It's right around the corner. It's right around.
02:12:13
Why are you following the blood trail was doing that.
02:12:16
This episode truth stop Holly's on poking.
02:12:19
The thing in the I put the knife away.
02:12:24
He's bit. Why are you going towards him?
02:12:26
Like it's pretty good. It's cases.
02:12:31
Is that child needs whooping? Well hopefully she'll she'll
02:12:38
stop poking. The bear.
02:12:39
She'll leave those things alone. She lives to fight another day
02:12:43
but we'll see that. You know, we'll see what happens
02:12:46
with Ellie and Joel in the second episode.
02:12:50
Yeah, I like um I like I like Pedro Pascal in this role.
02:12:54
He's like you can really seems like a fun guy.
02:12:59
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