#theboys The season 3 finale of The Boys is full of confrontations and revelations. Butcher makes a move to save Hughie's life in a way only Butcher could. Maeve finds a way out of her predicament. Homelander finds something he was looking for. Soldier Boy and Butcher compare crappy dad stories. Black Noir makes a return to Voight Tower. Homelander lays all cards on the table to his team. The Boys come up with a plan to take Soldier Boy down, but not all are on board. Homelander's plans for a family reunion don't go quite as planned. A sacrifice is made in order to save the day.
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Was the Pirates, welcome back to another episode of The Phantom
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hybrid podcast. This is hanako and I am here
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with Anthony and Mike and we are discussing these season 3 finale
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of the boys. Finally, it only took us how,
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how long to get here three times are.
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Yeah, so the first two times, we were supposed to record this, I
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got sick both times, you know, stupid migraines.
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But now we're recording. There's a lot to talk about.
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I don't know where I want to start.
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Art, do we want to start at the beginning of do?
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We wouldn't talk about this. Ass-whooping at the end?
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Decided to beginning. We will start at the beginning.
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Yeah. - so we know what? Victoria nuland was giving
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Hollander. Now on that little yellow piece
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of paper she was giving him Ryan's location.
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This whole, I swear to God like really like you did.
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She's just like, she's really getting comfortable making power
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plays, like she's definitely a cursed.
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Even though I don't think because she's not biologically
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his daughter, I think she had used the adopt, but she learned
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all she could from cuz she's pulling major power moves.
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Now, I'm just like, you know, it's one of those things where
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when you go, hey, Homeland, when you go ballistic, remember, I'm
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the one they gave you the address to your son's house like
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and I think that's what she did. Because remember when, when she
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caught him in the barn, you know, drinking his milk That
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sounds like a misrepresentation of what was actually happy.
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He was going when she caught him.
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When she walked in, he was drinking the milk from the
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bucket. We're not going to Tom.
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That was in the bucket at that point.
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Oh God. Yes I can imagine it.
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Oh my God. Been to, I've had been around
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cows. Yeah.
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The things that happened near those buckets would just I don't
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even want to know 11 foot tall, pee pee hole, none.
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But yeah you know when she when she confronted him in the barn
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and she was telling him yo you need to pull your shit together.
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Other blah blah blah. I remember he jacked her up like
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he was about to fight and she was like, look I'm just
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suggesting a mutually beneficial relationship and so she gave him
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the information to find Ryan. What did she get in return?
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We find that out later on in the episode.
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Oh, guess who's the new Vice Presidential nominee?
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Is she is shady as fuck? Like, damn What I mean, we know
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that what she was what we figured out.
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She was the one Papa heads at the end of last season, right?
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Yeah. But it's like to actually
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actually get home later to get the Deep to drown the other VP
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candidate that's some next-level shit.
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So I don't think that was her plan.
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I think she was planning for home Lander to do it by home,
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Lander in his in his anger over everything that was going on.
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And in his defense Gust over. Oh you guys are the people that
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I got for my family All in the Family to me I think home Lander
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was just willing. He's smart to see how hi
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everybody was willing to jump and the Deep, you know, was like
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seriously sir that's treason and Homeland was like, that's a big
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word. He was like whenever you say
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sir, I was like You are such a patsy the like I don't even know
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if I want to say grow some balls.
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But I mean just grow a pair drink more fresco.
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You know, that's what I was going to mention Fresca because
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at the beginning of the episode, when we get to the part with
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butcher Huey and Soulja Boy, you know, apparently Soulja Boy has
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already told Huey and butcher at this point that you know, home
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Lander is his son. And which is like well how do
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you know really, really his son. He was like, yeah, I know he
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seems to be taking it. Okay and then Soulja Boy comes
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out of the bathroom and he's got alcohol in the glass and he's
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pouring Coke into the glass. And I was just laughing because
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I was like, oh, they're not doing product placement with
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Fresca this time but I forgot Fresca is a Coca-Cola products.
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Is that alcohol or milk? It definitely was not milk.
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Soulja Boy is not the night night.
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Huey said he needed. He said he needed a drink.
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I don't know because, you know, because you know, Pepsi and milk
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was made Popular by Laverne & Shirley when they were in there.
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So maybe he didn't have Pepsi and he went but Coke gross.
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I'm just saying this is a thing is gross because Pepsi just by
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itself is gross but to mix it with this is true.
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Gross. I mean they mix Coke and peanuts
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it's like Coke and peanuts popcorn, peanuts make sense,
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especially if you are from the south especially if you always
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does it. Yes it does.
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No, let's go. Fortunately, made me take your
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no, don't make me. Take your age.
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I'm just saying Pepsi Coke is that they maybe you did that
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Pepsi so use Coca-Cola and milk. So no, is it?
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Absolutely not. Is it actually says Soldier
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Boys. Drinking milk mixed with
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Coca-Cola, popular hangover remedy.
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So her he wins. Well, why would he have a
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hangman? I agree.
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It's disgusting. He wasn't, you know, he needed a
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drink to get over the fact that he realized that on Lander was
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his son. You said all those drugs and
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shit that he's been doing that, he's not going screams, a little
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bit of a Bit of a, oh, shit. I mean, have you been
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self-medicating heavily? Yeah, no, he's probably like,
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I'm trying to think what superhero is it?
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Oh my God. I was, I'm trying to think
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there's some superhero that is in my head.
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And like my mind just went blank, but they literally can't.
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Oh, I think it's like the flash, he can't get drunk because
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because he burns his supertop. Elizabeth.
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Get buzzed was proven and She-Hulk.
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I'm just saying just saying I'll just say a shot up into Soulja
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Boy and that they gave him cocaine.
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And Jack is probably like an aspirin for him.
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I'm just saying Okay, you know, that's fine.
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I'm just, I'm just saying to my anyway.
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Um, yeah. So Soulja Boy, his told the
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story of his bundle of Japan. I'm sorry, is there?
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I know Lori called it? And I know it's been confirmed
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now, but it's just still so weird to think about Soulja Boy,
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Homeland, or being like biologically related because
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Even though they never knew anything about each other, have
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never spent any real time together except for that
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ass-whooping that, you know, happened at here, orgasm.
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You look at the two of them and you're like, yeah, nature over
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nurture prime example. Because, yeah, both of them are
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douches and both of them like yeah.
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It's very obvious anyway, it was such a boy, seems to be taking
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that a little bit harder than been, you would think, but then
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we find out when later on, when he's talking to butcher, he's
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like, yeah. You know, out, I always figured
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I had a couple of rug rats running around around there, I
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actually wanted them. I was like, huh in Crimson
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countess. Which I'm like, I guess when
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you're that much of a narcissist and your that self-centered,
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it's easy to miss the signs because I don't know how you
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couldn't tell that Crimson Countess just wasn't that
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auntie. Because it's almost mean he's
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sober. He has an ego because ego
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probably, he's probably said that everybody's going.
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Yeah, I'm Soulja Boy, I'm famous, I'm rich.
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I'm really strong, everybody loves me.
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Everybody wants to fuck me. Why wouldn't she be interested
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in me? And why wouldn't you want my
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attention in B vitamins? Yeah.
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Have my babies. Now, they get stuff also real
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quick. How weird is it?
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That each of them had a thing had a little fling with a
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redheaded superhero? That is so not only that That.
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I mean, remember Soulja Boy, mentioned that he start.
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He started here orgasm with Liberty who was Stormfront who
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home Lander was also like, that's a level of like, yeah,
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sharing is caring taken too far. Like he'll calm down with that.
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That's like. That's like okay I'm no I'm not
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even going to make a real life parallel because I wasn't no,
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but it happens, it happens, especially in the celebrity
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world. But anyway, yeah, so good
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genetics has a type. You know, I'm just saying is is
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just a anyway, Okay. I want to talk about a train
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real quick because in this episode you do get a lot of not
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necessarily closure but you do get them touching on pretty much
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all of the members of the seven. We get to see all of them or I
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don't even I they still call the seven to seven of them anymore.
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It's like five or six of new Maeve is missing or was missing
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at the beginning of this episode is home Lander the Deep a train.
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That's that's it. All black black noir.
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It seems like it's like the big three and a half as you
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basically basically. But, um, A train goes to see his
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brother because of course, his brother, you know, now
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paralyzed. Thanks to Blue Hawk and he's
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back in his blue. So the can't a suit is gone.
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Thank goodness. That shit was though.
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It was. That was so cringe-worthy.
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Like, bra just be you. You ain't got to be nobody else.
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Just be. You ain't nobody gonna be mad
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because they know it's, you don't try to be.
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So try to be ultra woke like I'm black, and he black.
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The blackity black black black', and he'd be like, no, no, just
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be you dogs. It's just let it go.
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But I think that, I think the worst part of that is you walk
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into your brother's. First of all, I don't think I've
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ever seen any of them in regular clothes, except for the women
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because you never seen the well, I think Homeland is no the no.
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Yeah, the Deep reason he had to cancel suit once.
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Did he remember happened? I'm trying maybe not cast out
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when he was buried with. What's his name was a Archer, a
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black Archer or what? The guy he was staying with a or
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whatever. Yeah.
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Yeah I think y'all some regular clothes then maybe when the when
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the gills were talking to him but I don't remember but yeah I
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don't think we've ever seen them in like regular clothes.
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So anyway, a train comes to his brother's house and he's got on
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the blue suit and his brother looks at him and he was like,
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oh, so what happened to you? He's like, yeah man, funny
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story. They gave me a new ticker.
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I'ma be able to run again. I was like Insensitive fuck
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coming in saying this stuff to your brother who is sitting in a
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can't walk anymore like you insensitive, like this is your
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brother. I mean we already know a train
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is insensitive. We already know he has a bit of
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a selfish street but I'm right. But this is your brother.
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This is the person who trained you.
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This is a person who helped make you who you are.
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And you're coming to him for what?
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Oh yeah, look at me. I'm going to be able to do what
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I need to do but I can't do it without you come back and track.
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Dude, read the room. We we we have not said that
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phrase in a long time. Read the fucking room.
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You are asking your brother to come back and train you so you
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can go back to living your life. Why he's stuck in a wheelchair
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because of dumb shit. You did by bringing blue heart
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to you know, for a photo op in to apologize and Beyond the fact
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that he saw he pretty much solved through him as soon as he
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told me was like what you get the heart.
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It's like he knew exactly what the fuck was up.
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He's like, he wasn't fooling. Anyone fool, couldn't couldn't
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put it past him for nothing and he was like, This is your big
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brother. Probably the one person in the
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world that know you're lying face better than anybody or is
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that nobody really knows all your Tails.
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All of them, you're sensitive motherfucker, he and his
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brothers married, like, rightfully.
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So, he was like, look, I don't want you to kill him.
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I wanted my kids to see him parade it.
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In front, you know, in the teeth in front of the TV and handcuffs
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and know that he will be brought to Justice, you just robbed
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that, you know, you ride that for me and what was it?
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What was a Chinese response. He was like I I got you justice
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or something like that. I was like, so, I'm still hoping
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for a train to get a, a Redemption Arc.
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And those both in about you, when I was playing, I was like,
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I don't know. Oh, no.
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Now I'm starting to back away from their lives.
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I don't think it's a, I don't know if he's going to happen.
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I think, I don't think this shows, sitting many of these
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characters up for Redemption artist other than You know,
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maybe yeah if this that's pretty much it.
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So since since you mentioned made let me say that Maven this
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episode at least towards the end.
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And I've said this before because you know, first season
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second season, you know, I didn't really care for her
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character at all. Didn't like her character most
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this season. Towards the end of this episode,
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I was like, this is amazing. I wanted.
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Where is she been this whole time?
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Because she actually stood up to Homeland.
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ER, she stood up to, I mean, she stood up to the boys because
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they were, you know, trying to stop Butcher and Soulja Boy from
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going after Homeland because they like, yeah, Soulja Boy is
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going to destroy everybody. He's going to kill her.
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Whole bunch of innocent people. We can't do this.
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Got a hold. How many people have died
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because of Home Lander? How many of your friends have
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died because of Home Lander like Even if y'all don't kill him, he
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needs to be incapacitated something.
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They need to stick him in a box somewhere and put on Ice.
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Put them next to his daddy. I mean, you want to be a family
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so much. You want to be with your pops,
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go sit in the box next to him and wherever it is, they sent
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him at the end of the episode. But I mean, this was the name
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that I want and I will say this too.
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One of the things I think I don't like about made is that I
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feel like what some of her lines like you know the whole thing
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that she said to Hugh and when you know of course Maeve is
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trapped in the tower, the lgbtq community because of Starlights
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Instagram video, where Homeland or admitted that Maeve was
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locked up somewhere, they got to the attorney general, the
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Attorney General, the Attorney General was coming to vote Tower
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to, you know, free her. So Ashley The Deep had her
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moved. So she's in this armored truck.
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They try to sit there. I don't know, I don't know why
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they thought there was no sedate her, but she kills all the
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people in there. She escapes, she shows up at
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Mother's Milk apartment or yeah, mother's milk is apartment and
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when Starlight and Huey walk in he was like, oh, I'm glad to see
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that. You're okay and stuff and she
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was like, what did she say? If you had a, you have a neon
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sign that says raw dog. Me I I'm a bottom and I was just
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like, was that really necessary is so creative with dissing Huey
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is like co co know where she gets this shit from like that.
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But yeah, this is real. I feel like I feel like and I
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don't know if it's just the way that the lines are being
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delivered or just the character in general.
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I feel like they're trying too hard to make her to be this
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unfeeling character. You know, or this person, that
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is a feeling character. Try not to be a feeling
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character. I don't know what, just don't
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know. I just don't like it.
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I don't know. It kind of worked.
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It kind of works for me because we know knowing if you if you're
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watching this show, you know, that she's a very sensitive and
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feeling person and she has this this mask, she's trying to hide,
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that she's been hiding that, right?
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And it's because it's not who she really is.
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I mean they did because they were kind of playing it up that
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she's like that she's been putting on a facade this whole
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time like, especially with showing that she's a lesbian and
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showing her a relationship, a home Lander.
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Or it's like they like she's been hiding a lot of who she is
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and they've kind of been building that to show that
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there's a lot more to her that she doesn't show everybody.
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So she has a lot that she's hiding it, just, I don't know
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it. Some of the lies that she
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delivers where she supposed to be.
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Putting putting off or putting forth that that Persona I don't
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know. It just doesn't seem And maybe
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it's not supposed to seem natural.
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Maybe that's that's the problem because I think that's the
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point. It's not supposed to be natural
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for us. I don't know.
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It. Just when she said it is so
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cringeworthy. It's like, it doesn't like if
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butcher had said it, I would buy it.
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You know what I'm saying? If mother's milk said it, I
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would even buy it but I don't know coming from a to just it
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just feels weird. I don't know, I don't know,
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maybe I just need to. I just need to go back and maybe
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re-watch it and just kind of re-evaluate what I think about
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her character. I just something about the way
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they write her is just it feels weird to me so I don't know.
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Well I mean I mean I don't think none of us can really speak to
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the pressure of being one person in public, but someone else in
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private. So it's like I mean that has to
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be really hard on her like pretending not.
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Not too. I mean, all the time in the
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first, he's going to the second season pretending not like
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hiding that she's a lesbian. I mean, that I mean, I know
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people who've had to come out of the closet like that was and
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it's such a release for them. That is really hard.
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I think that's a really difficult thing to hide who you
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are inside, like, to not be the person.
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And, and, and that could come out.
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Different ways. Like, come out her be, she's
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around people who So who she is. So why put on In front of them.
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I think that's the probably, the thing that bothers me because
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she doesn't know who she can trust me.
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She doesn't know who will how they react especially if she's
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around Homeland ER who's like the look of the concerned about
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this specific thing. She is like she is on the run,
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and she came here because she trusts these people.
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So why still put on that facade? I don't think she would because
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she trusts him. She had no real to go.
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Yeah, there's no approval path. That's sort of a different Like
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see at the bare minimum, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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So you know, there's a, there's not that much trust there but
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it's like well I know they're at least on my side.
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Like she's she doesn't absolutely trust them at all.
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And you is easy. Target is like every time she
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seems to a, she's like, okay cage, open up over the sea.
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Brought dogs of evil one. I'm so tired of her picking all
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Hue. Like you ain't did nothing wrong
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to you, leave. Come alone.
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Everybody people like you is some an easy target is like and
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he doesn't say anything about you say usually he's just like I
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mean I see me. Yes me.
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Okay, maybe because it's like he's like, he cares but he's
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like I don't want to talk back to her because I'm not trying to
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get into it with her he just like can't she just go along
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with it if you can break him. Like he's asleep.
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I guess, I'll take that. Maybe that's what's bothering me
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because why are you? Always so hard on Huey what has
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he done to you like exist. That's what you've done I guess.
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In a way if you if you look at that answer closely he is able
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to be who he is without it you know like yeah.
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People people rib on him but he still able to be who he is.
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So I get it when you say that. Like she's not able to be who
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she is completely and she has to hide and okay and also Huey Huey
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is What part of the inciting incident for the whole current
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story louder on, like, everybody was kind of stuck in the same
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place until his girlfriend got splattered.
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And that sort of, he sort of set everything in motion.
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So their lot in life, and what's going on with everyone?
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Now started with Huey Technically speaking and start
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away trying but yeah, okay. Well okay tomato tomato potato
00:23:57
potahto tornado tornado because they do because Splat, oh yes, I
00:24:05
get it. I get advertisement
00:24:07
advertisement. No but yeah.
00:24:18
So anyway Yes, I will not be so hard on me.
00:24:22
Like I said, I don't know something about her just always
00:24:25
has always bothered me but I guess it is.
00:24:29
That whole, her trying her trying so hard to present
00:24:34
herself in one way. It's just, yeah, I guess that's
00:24:37
what it is. Because, like I said, towards
00:24:39
the end of the episode had no problem with her.
00:24:41
I had no problem with her during the fight and no problem when
00:24:44
she was there. You know, when at the end, when
00:24:48
Annie came to see her, she was like, you're like a fucking
00:24:50
Fucking walk. Like you're a walking, Hallmark
00:24:52
card, but she was also able to be herself.
00:24:55
She was there with Elena and she wasn't as yeah.
00:25:00
She wasn't as off-putting, man. She was still kind of, okay,
00:25:04
I've got you at arm's length, but it wasn't as obvious and it
00:25:08
wasn't as crass and I think, maybe that's probably what it
00:25:10
is. But hmm.
00:25:15
Okay. I'll leave me alone after all.
00:25:19
She was the hero of the episode so I leave it alone for now.
00:25:25
Yeah. Let's see.
00:25:28
Okay, okay, so we're going to talk about Blackmore now.
00:25:34
Just to get it out the way because we saw in the last
00:25:39
episode black noir has a very, very turbulent history with
00:25:47
Homeland or let's say. And I really thought at first
00:25:51
that he was just gonna kind of not come back until whatever
00:25:56
this, you know, this resolution was between Homeland and Soulja
00:26:01
Boy, because not only are you Going from Soulja Boy because of
00:26:05
what you did to him in the past. Now, you know, that home
00:26:09
lenders, pissed off with you too because in a sense you abandon
00:26:14
him. And you know how home Lander is
00:26:16
about being a bad, that he has major major abandonment.
00:26:22
So the fact that he came back in this episode, I was surprised,
00:26:26
but it's so funny because when they showed him coming back you
00:26:29
know, he's walking down the hallway and vaults how our and
00:26:33
he almost looked like he was coming to fight and I mean even
00:26:37
the little Cartoon characters were coming like they were about
00:26:39
to fight like yeah we're about to do something so he comes in
00:26:43
and he shows Homeland or assigning.
00:26:45
He was like Soulja Boy will come.
00:26:46
We have to kill him. Okay, so bad timing.
00:26:53
Yeah later on and this is right around, you know.
00:26:57
This is when he's really thinking about what's going on.
00:27:03
I think he had just found out that he had just found out that
00:27:06
may fit escaped and when they're getting ready or when I should
00:27:12
say, when Latin war is getting ready, you know, he's
00:27:15
sharpening. His sword and Homeland or comes
00:27:18
into the room, and he's kind of feeling him out.
00:27:21
He was like, you do know that sword is not going to do
00:27:24
anything to him. And you know, he admits to black
00:27:30
noir, he was like, you know, he's my father.
00:27:32
And you know they lied to me this whole time.
00:27:35
They you know they kept them from me.
00:27:38
The one thing in the world I wanted and they kept him from me
00:27:41
and he was like, I don't know if I want to kill him now and black
00:27:45
noir is like yeah we have to kill him.
00:27:47
We must kill him. And, you know, he walks over to
00:27:53
black noir. He was like, you know, he will
00:27:56
say that you're hard to read, but I just see your Expressions.
00:28:00
He was like, I can see through that.
00:28:01
I see through your mask like no, literally, I can see through
00:28:05
your mask, I can see your Scar Face.
00:28:07
I can see that crooked smile. And I was like, oh, so if black
00:28:11
noir has been making any kind of facial expression about the
00:28:16
whole soldier boy thing, how long they can I'm probably see,
00:28:20
like, oh, this dude knew some shit because I'm sure when he
00:28:24
admitted to Blackmail war. That Soulja Boy was his father
00:28:27
Latin wars face, probably didn't change.
00:28:30
And that was how he knew he was like did you know that I had a
00:28:33
father running around nothing or that.
00:28:35
I had a father out there and black noir just kind of stopped
00:28:39
for a minute. He's like yeah, and I will say
00:28:43
this and we talked about this I think of few episodes ago, when
00:28:47
we were talking about it, I really hope they're not trying
00:28:51
to make home Lander a sympathetic character and not
00:28:55
trying to give us a Redemption but like there are a couple of
00:28:59
times in this episode where you really could see his
00:29:04
vulnerability and a little bit of humanity coming from him when
00:29:08
he is reunited with Ryan and he's talking to Ryan and Ryan
00:29:12
was like, aren't you mad at me for what I did?
00:29:15
And Homeland, it looked like he was about to cry like nose.
00:29:18
Son, you know what you did was a mistake.
00:29:21
I will never ever be mad at you. For something like that, I will
00:29:24
always love you. And you see Ryan breaks down and
00:29:27
I was like, Okay, here y'all go on the homeland of redemption
00:29:31
train Choo-Choo but I was like, I'm not gonna fall for I'm not
00:29:35
gonna fall for it. I mean we said it a couple
00:29:37
episodes ago. If there's one thing that I
00:29:39
think home Lander is genuine about, I do think it is his love
00:29:44
for Ryan. I will say that another thing in
00:29:47
this, in this episode I do feel like he really thought of Noir
00:29:54
as his friend and so that betrayal that you see on his
00:29:57
face when the war says, you know, Nice.
00:29:59
Yes, I knew you had it in you the way his face broke.
00:30:04
When he realized that the one person he considered his best
00:30:08
friend had known about this, his entire life and never said
00:30:12
anything. I was like I can't remember
00:30:15
people's last episode of the episode before when he was like,
00:30:18
you know, black and white is like, I know that's my dude.
00:30:22
That's a person that I know it's on my side that I can count on.
00:30:26
I can rely on, and then you've been lying, Me my whole freakin
00:30:30
life, like you can tell me and some point you could just say,
00:30:32
you know, your dad is out there somewhere, this all it was taken
00:30:37
and he was here. But how do you how do you have
00:30:38
that conversations? Like, especially when you were?
00:30:42
You were the reason that, His father is sitting in a, in a
00:30:47
tank somewhere in Russia being experiments and we have ideas,
00:30:51
how do you have that conversation little cat sit
00:30:53
down. I mean it gets all over the room
00:30:56
to look at them. Looks like he didn't, he didn't
00:30:59
want, he did not want. There's no chance that he wanted
00:31:02
Soulja Boy, knowing who's day, there's much less finding him.
00:31:05
You were, he realized that if he told soldier boy that, his dad
00:31:08
was probably still alive in Russia, he would have flown his
00:31:10
ass to Mother Russia, broke him out, and brought him back.
00:31:14
And then Stick with the the company line in to say that.
00:31:17
Yeah, he died, you know. Okay.
00:31:18
But he's still lying but he's going, he would have still found
00:31:21
out. He's lying he's lying he's
00:31:22
realized it at that point. He's like well I just assumed he
00:31:26
was dead like I mean anything I'm sure he didn't keep up with
00:31:31
them once they came to the Russians.
00:31:32
He would probably probably like out of sight.
00:31:34
Out of mind. The Russians have them.
00:31:36
I'm not going to worry about them, they that seek to them.
00:31:38
They took my party to figure out how you work, the try to Auntie,
00:31:41
you know, reverse engineer, the ceremony.
00:31:44
Never, you know, I just assumed he was dead but you know, I can
00:31:48
tell you that. Yeah, it was probably your dad
00:31:51
either way. He's all sides were going to be
00:31:52
comes in sizes like, you know, he lies to him about him not
00:31:58
having. Now you telling about his father
00:32:00
or telling about, they had a father, but he's dead.
00:32:02
When he shows up either way, he's going to be, he's gonna
00:32:05
lose some guts, he's losing guts.
00:32:07
He's a white man. Can't make it to now, bro.
00:32:10
Look at you now. And why do I look at you now?
00:32:13
And I was like, and and and and, and again, he was so paying to
00:32:18
have to do that. But yeah, he reaches in, he
00:32:22
reaches into black noir is chest, cavity.
00:32:26
I was going to say, you are my brother, my brother.
00:32:37
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:43
Everything and I'm sure there was no sand in the room
00:32:46
whatsoever. I'm almost positive this.
00:32:49
He cut her, my reminded me of the was it was, it was the
00:32:54
Injustice, run, a DC, where Superman put his hand through
00:32:58
Joker's chess. Yeah.
00:33:01
Well what's up in the animated version?
00:33:06
You do this? I thought of comic versions like
00:33:08
Superman like after he killed Louis he just went bowling which
00:33:14
is interesting considering how similar those characters are.
00:33:19
Yeah well Horrible and his little, his little Barnyard
00:33:26
Friends surrounded him, as he at least he wasn't alone, you know,
00:33:32
it later with them, but I'm cool.
00:33:34
You'll be in the sweet Embrace of Christ.
00:33:37
The lord. I was like really Christ the
00:33:42
lord. I like to throw that in there.
00:33:52
There's a part of me that foremost for for a moment.
00:33:57
I was wondering I was like, so is he really dead because when
00:34:02
you think about when you when you recall the flashback where
00:34:06
we see, actually, it's two flashbacks when you recall
00:34:10
Mallory's memories of what happened and you saw exactly
00:34:16
what had happened to black noir is head.
00:34:19
You know, part of his brain had been like Yeah, he was he was
00:34:22
fucked up and then when you see his own recollection of what
00:34:26
happened, the cartoon version of what Soulja Boy did to him, I
00:34:31
was like, there's no way in hell, he should have been able
00:34:34
to survive that. So, I was wondering.
00:34:36
Okay, so did vaud. Keep him alive through.
00:34:39
Artificial means. So when he was laying there on
00:34:42
the floor, it's like, I wonder, is there any way that they can
00:34:45
save him like, is he really dead or is this like, did they make
00:34:49
him Immortal? We just don't know.
00:34:50
But then, when Soulja Boy, I mean, when Homeland, and walked
00:34:53
into the room, with the deep, and a train, and Ashley, and put
00:34:58
the helmet on the table. I was like, oh, I guess he went
00:35:02
back to finish the job. because other than that, I'm like,
00:35:09
rails, would he have gotten a helmet?
00:35:11
Yeah, I think he's done for. Yeah.
00:35:14
Homeland are probably felt bad afterwards.
00:35:16
Like, okay, that was still, my friend.
00:35:18
Let me go. At least, I don't know, maybe he
00:35:21
had somebody come and clean them up and I don't know, not just
00:35:25
leave them on the floor. I don't know.
00:35:29
But that whole scene with home Lander and Ashley a train and
00:35:36
the Deep vesting was so uncomfortable because he's
00:35:40
sitting there telling them and he was like, yeah, you know.
00:35:43
Well, first of all, when he tells them that Noir is dead, he
00:35:46
doesn't even say it to them. They're, they're discussing, you
00:35:50
know what they should do as far as Starlight and Maeve and all
00:35:54
this other stuff, and they're like, well, where where is Noir
00:35:57
homeland of just puts the helmet on the table.
00:35:59
In the deepest look alike, you can tell it was like it was in
00:36:03
his mind what happened. But at the same time he was like
00:36:07
nah, he didn't do that. He didn't do that.
00:36:10
Oh shit, he did that. Oh, I'll have the really Kisses
00:36:13
ass. Now, you know, that's what was
00:36:15
going through deep smile because he was trying to figure out how
00:36:17
do I End up not like, not like that.
00:36:24
But Homeland, you know what concerns me is, their whole
00:36:29
discussion, they're like really scared of Soulja Boy.
00:36:34
Like do we need to evacuate the tower?
00:36:36
Do we need to do this? Do we?
00:36:38
You know, and only thing Homeland says we need to project
00:36:41
strength like his confidence. Must really be shaken with the
00:36:45
Soulja Boy thing. Yeah, but they all sound kind of
00:36:50
scared, very scared. And I think I feel like home
00:36:54
Lander maybe had the confidence then because of the fact that,
00:37:00
okay, Soulja Boy, reached out to me to tell me that I was his
00:37:04
son, like he didn't have to do that.
00:37:06
So I think maybe and maybe a Homeland is my he thought.
00:37:10
Okay, Soulja Boy reached out. He even said, hey if they had
00:37:16
told me, I would have stepped back and let you take the shine
00:37:18
because what was it? He said, what father doesn't
00:37:20
want that for son for him to use those kind of words especially
00:37:25
in home. Landers my this is something
00:37:27
Homeland or his wanted for so long.
00:37:30
Just a sense of someone that he belonged to someone that would
00:37:36
love him. Someone, you know, that will
00:37:38
make him feel like, oh, this is this is it.
00:37:40
This is my family. This is where I'm supposed to be
00:37:43
this. Where I Belong.
00:37:45
So I think maybe that phone conversation changed it for
00:37:50
Homeland, instead of him being scared.
00:37:51
He was like, oh no, he wants to be my father.
00:37:54
We don't have to be scared of him.
00:37:56
We just have to show him. Hey, we're all United and it'll
00:37:59
be okay. I don't think he expected for
00:38:03
Soulja Boy. To actually have the reaction
00:38:05
that he had at the end of the episode when he was like, yeah,
00:38:08
your fucking disappointment. But you know the way that he
00:38:16
speaks to them when he's when he's in there is like you can
00:38:19
tell. He's kind of at the end of his
00:38:20
rope like black noir betrayal. You can tell that cut deep to
00:38:27
the point where he's really like.
00:38:29
I'm not trying, I'm not trying to play nice anymore.
00:38:33
I'm not trying to spare anybody's feelings.
00:38:35
I don't give a fuck about none of y'all.
00:38:36
The Deep your pussy, a tray, your pussy, Ashley, take the wig
00:38:40
off. Off your couch, that's true.
00:38:46
Because she was like, what wig and he was just looking at her
00:38:49
like bitch, really bitch. I mean day, I mean, we all kind
00:38:56
of we all kind of figured that with every with her just
00:38:59
consistently pulling her hair out, that there's no way that
00:39:01
she still had the full head of hair.
00:39:03
We're like, there has to be something, but I didn't think it
00:39:06
was that that extent. Like the last time when we
00:39:10
actually saw her do it, she pulled from towards the backs.
00:39:13
So, you know, if you got a little bit of patches or
00:39:16
whatever, you can kind of pull your hair down over it and like,
00:39:21
cover it up, renew them damn whistle whistle here that she
00:39:28
had lived for this like, goddamn really the Wisp.
00:39:32
Yeah, exactly. The ash of the Whisk is like,
00:39:35
even though he's like, let's like a train and the deeper just
00:39:39
like, oh shit. They ain't nobody could look at
00:39:42
her. Hey James.
00:39:43
She likes branches in this whole scene because when the manager
00:39:48
says something he was talking to them and he was like he was
00:39:54
talking about how when they gave him the team, how he was like,
00:40:00
yeah, y'all aren't, y'all aren't fucking, y'all are in a fucking
00:40:02
team, whatever, whatever. And the deepest, like, Mister
00:40:06
Homeland or sir, I've always tried to help people.
00:40:08
Like, what? Like, when you ran away from
00:40:10
home here, orgasm, or maybe when you free.
00:40:13
You're fucked up. Those things was like yeah he's
00:40:20
like I was hoping that team will be the family.
00:40:23
I never had and then I got young and that's what he was like.
00:40:30
You really want to help deep, he was coming.
00:40:34
I mean, he's sitting there looking at the helmet on the
00:40:36
table. He was like, what the fuck is he
00:40:38
about, to do to me with a look of disgust on his face, talking
00:40:43
to Him. So my homeland, I mean, he's
00:40:45
absolutely disgusted with people.
00:40:49
They've seen your front of him, if you know, what did he get
00:40:54
nominated for anything? Because, yeah, at least our get
00:40:58
nominated for some. Yeah.
00:40:59
He's, he's an incredible actor. Just with his facial
00:41:03
expressions. See it all.
00:41:06
Yeah. Yep.
00:41:09
But yeah. So this is when he tells the
00:41:12
Deep to come here. He whispered something in his
00:41:14
ear and the deepest like sir that's trees and he was like
00:41:17
that's such a big word, whatever you say mr.
00:41:21
Homeland or sir. Or I'll do it sir, whatever he
00:41:25
said, then he starts going in on a train like I could you kill
00:41:30
one of your own? I was like, yeah, I knew that
00:41:32
was coming the whole Blue Hawk thing.
00:41:34
It's like, yeah. So know what y'all are about to
00:41:36
do. Y'all are about to stand in
00:41:37
front of everybody and tell tell them that we are the True
00:41:40
Justice. I was like, oh, this is about to
00:41:44
be ugly. Yep.
00:41:48
So yeah. I mean it's like Or I see it's
00:41:52
like you can't really feel sorry for any of them.
00:41:56
Just like you know y'all kind of brought every last piece of this
00:42:00
on y'all self. All y'all every piece of it to
00:42:03
variant. All these things are
00:42:05
self-inflicted wounds. Are you talking about exposing
00:42:10
them? Exposing the wounds, it's like
00:42:14
or scallops or whatever. He's expensive, the side out
00:42:18
about the octopus. Yeah.
00:42:21
About Lee, my first, you're eating them, then you're fucking
00:42:24
them. Like what, what's the deal here?
00:42:26
But when you know, the next scene after that is when we see
00:42:31
the potential vice president candidate and I can't remember
00:42:35
what his name is, but he's going out to the pool, he's talking to
00:42:39
someone and he's talking about you, I'm expecting a good phone
00:42:42
call in the morning, I guess. At this point, he's, this is
00:42:45
when he's expecting to be named as the vice presidential
00:42:49
candidate for Bob. See.
00:42:50
Singer. He gets into the pool and he
00:42:55
goes for a swim or but, you know, up under the water.
00:42:58
And the next thing we know, we see his body float up and then
00:43:01
here comes the Deep, the Deep looks around.
00:43:03
He's like shit. I'm like yeah.
00:43:04
Do you better hope? There's no cameras in that
00:43:06
house. First of all, how does he have
00:43:10
such a nice pool and doesn't have lights in it?
00:43:14
Or he didn't notice that, I mean this like most most pools at
00:43:18
night time, they have lights where you're swimming and you
00:43:21
know you I mean they have lights on.
00:43:24
I'm like he may not have turned them all.
00:43:26
Yeah, this is simple. Do you think about it?
00:43:28
You're at your at your house far as you know nobody else is there
00:43:33
you going for a swim in your own private pool?
00:43:35
Hey Pop, you like it, especially if you are somebody of that.
00:43:43
You know of that stature chances are he has security around, you
00:43:50
know, so he's very naive and think well I won't even call an
00:43:53
eye if he's very secure. He's probably thinking.
00:43:56
Yeah, nobody's going to come in here and get me and if he hasn't
00:44:00
really done anything, to piss anybody off, why would they come
00:44:04
after him? You know, I mean granted, he's a
00:44:08
politician. He's about he's probably about
00:44:10
to be named vice president. You would think he would be a
00:44:13
little more. I don't know diligent about his
00:44:18
security and about what's going on around him.
00:44:20
But, you know, he wasn't thinking about that in that
00:44:23
moment. And like you said that cool was
00:44:26
dark. So is the deeps costume?
00:44:30
So, yeah, he does Sam and deepest dark hair.
00:44:34
So, here it is Sam. And he may not have wanted to
00:44:38
miss. If his Ambience, I mean, he has
00:44:40
all the soft light around you turn on the pool light, all of a
00:44:43
sudden, it's a party, you know. Might have been expecting
00:44:47
someone. Yeah.
00:44:49
I mean, you never know, I don't know, just seemed kind of weird
00:44:53
but it's like that, just goes to show like, I mean, there's some
00:44:58
covert shit. It's like deep can make a nice
00:45:00
living, killing people in pools. Like if you wanted to, or
00:45:03
killing people in the ocean is like, just drag him down.
00:45:07
Hold him down underwater. No efforts, like, I love feel
00:45:11
like at some point. He would start to get these
00:45:14
suspected. And some point at some point for
00:45:19
all, we know, he could have been the one that turned off the pool
00:45:22
lights. This is true.
00:45:24
Yeah, that's true. He's probably just like, okay.
00:45:29
Whatever is my pool? He probably didn't, he has
00:45:33
people for that peeves? Can you turn on the pool lights
00:45:37
for me and the warmer, right? Turn where I pee in your pool
00:45:44
doubt. Raise the temperature.
00:45:47
Oh God. Okay, that was messed up.
00:45:56
But I mean, this is like, I mean, this people are just
00:46:01
really like, damn, like so like underhanded in it like this
00:46:07
episode is like, it just seems like everybody had like an
00:46:09
ulterior motive. It's like even they've had
00:46:13
ulterior motive like, even they didn't seem like it.
00:46:16
She's still like kind of went behind.
00:46:19
People went behind their backs when she smashed the little
00:46:22
perfume. The perfume toxin is like she's
00:46:25
like act like she was going along with this.
00:46:27
He just snatched it and breaks it there's like I think maybe at
00:46:30
the time She probably was thinking about it.
00:46:35
I don't know because if you if you think about what they what
00:46:41
they know right off the bat or right here, Soulja Boy does seem
00:46:46
like he might be the bigger threat simply for the fact that
00:46:50
he could this he could you know take away their power at any
00:46:55
time. With his power.
00:46:58
So, maybe she was going along like, okay, so, in order to keep
00:47:04
thousands of people from dying, we take out Soulja Boy.
00:47:08
I mean, if you think about it, Maeve already has innocent
00:47:12
deaths on her conscious so maybe she do.
00:47:16
Yeah, yeah, so maybe she didn't want that and she was like, okay
00:47:20
yeah, let's go along with the whole.
00:47:22
We got a disabled Soldier Boy fan, but then when butcher
00:47:25
starts talking and he's like, no, we got it, we got it.
00:47:28
Rid of Home Lander, that's the more important thing I think at
00:47:33
that point, she was like, you know what?
00:47:35
Yeah, let's get rid of Homeland the first because home Lander
00:47:39
ruined my life home Lander is the thing that is keeping me
00:47:43
scared it. That is keeping me from being
00:47:46
Who I Am from being who with who I want to be.
00:47:49
Because, as long as home Lander is in this mood Elena will never
00:47:55
be safe. So, I don't think that she had
00:48:00
planned to double-cross them the whole time, but I think at that
00:48:03
point she had to make a decision, which one was more
00:48:06
important. And for her Homeland, ER, again,
00:48:10
one of the things about me that they have shown, she is, in a
00:48:17
sense, kind of selfish when it comes to certain things, but in
00:48:21
this instance, I don't blame her for that selfishness because
00:48:24
she's not only thinking about herself, she's About the other
00:48:28
people Homeland or his killed like she doesn't really have any
00:48:31
history with Soulja Boy. You know what I'm saying?
00:48:34
Even at her mind as a soup if she knows what Soulja Boy went
00:48:39
through. Oh yeah, your team sold you out.
00:48:41
They sent you to the Russians. They they, you know, they
00:48:45
tortured you they experimented on you.
00:48:49
I have a good reason to be doing the shit.
00:48:51
He's doing. Why am I going to mess with
00:48:53
that? I'm not going to touch it
00:48:55
Homeland or on the other hand. That's personal to her.
00:48:58
So and again it's personal for for good reason she has a good
00:49:03
reason to be selfish and to want home Lander to die as opposed to
00:49:08
Soulja Boy because that's the only way she's going to get her
00:49:12
life back. I mean we don't know how long
00:49:15
he's kept her hostage in vote Tower.
00:49:19
We don't have been several episodes. it feels like the
00:49:28
whole season, I feel like Well, I mean, considering this is only
00:49:33
a episode season. Yeah, you might be right because
00:49:36
I don't think we've seen her since episode.
00:49:38
What for yeah. So yeah.
00:49:47
But I mean she does. Okay, first of all the fact that
00:49:52
Frenchy can just cook up a nerve agent just in a random a slab in
00:49:57
New York, not once but twice, you know, friends, he's like
00:50:02
the, where Laura would save the MacGyver of the drug industry, I
00:50:10
got some Clorox, bleach, some Windex, and there's some WD-40
00:50:15
over there. I got you a man.
00:50:21
I got to whatever whatever how you need, I got you.
00:50:24
Right? But he does, you know, get the
00:50:27
nerve, the nerve gas. What is it?
00:50:30
Novichok. I think that was what it was
00:50:31
called something like that. Yeah, he gets it, he takes it to
00:50:35
MSU. And I will say this, the, the
00:50:40
conversation that him and mmm had.
00:50:42
I was like, I'm so glad. Somebody told, mmm looks.
00:50:44
I try to hide all your shit from your daughter.
00:50:47
Because he was sitting there feeling so guilty about the fact
00:50:49
that he punched us God in the last episode, which we love.
00:50:56
Don't remind me about Todd, please don't?
00:50:59
I know I'm a half sumbitch, hit him hard enough, but yeah, he's
00:51:12
feeling bad because he was like, you know, I tried my best to
00:51:15
keep my shit away from Janine and The only thing she's going
00:51:18
to remember is that her dad punched out her stepdad?
00:51:22
And I was like, okay, so, yeah, it is step five, which again is
00:51:27
bothers me. Because if you think about it,
00:51:30
the end of last season. B from the end of last season to
00:51:37
this season now, only, it's only been just over a year, that's
00:51:42
passed. Mmm and Monique.
00:51:46
We're still technically married at the end of last season.
00:51:52
She was in hiding, but they were still married.
00:51:55
So I'm like, so you mean to tell me within a year a little bit
00:51:58
over a year. She done got divorced and
00:52:00
remarried and to somebody like, I feel like we have this
00:52:06
conversation, this conversation about how she went after
00:52:10
somebody, who was the complete opposite of Marvin.
00:52:12
Yes, we had this conversation. I'm still questioning it.
00:52:18
Sorry there is. There is no There's a lot that
00:52:24
can be said they were not saying, I mean, but I think our
00:52:29
listeners understand. I mean there's opposite and
00:52:32
there's opposite like which is what I don't understand.
00:52:37
You want to go in the opposite direction.
00:52:39
You want somebody who's not like your ex, or who doesn't have the
00:52:43
same kind of issues or whatever, but it is obvious from a mile
00:52:50
apart has very different Issues that are very, very on the
00:52:55
surface. But but but the issue that you
00:52:59
are sort of raising, but not really addressing, which I think
00:53:03
we're all kind of, it's sort of a sensitive subject is the
00:53:07
turnaround was so quick. You know, between divorcee and
00:53:12
getting remarried, use a whole I'm sorry, I can't answer that.
00:53:20
I have seen relationships, where people start dating, they get
00:53:25
engaged, get married within a span of a month.
00:53:28
I get that but you go from a divorce, a divorce.
00:53:34
Dating a married that quickly. I haven't seen that.
00:53:38
I don't think I have, I feel I have seen like a couple of
00:53:42
years. Well, I guess we'll leave in
00:53:47
several months. I guess.
00:53:48
The real thing that it is to me is that I feel like it's more.
00:53:55
So like a trauma response. Like because if you think about
00:53:59
it, Monica, mmm, they were married.
00:54:03
They were They were pretty happy.
00:54:05
I mean, even when mmm was locked up, they were still married.
00:54:08
He came home, there was no issue, but then they had to go
00:54:11
on the run or they had to go into hiding because they got put
00:54:15
in danger, and it was because of M&M's work with butcher going
00:54:20
after the soups and stuff that put them in that danger.
00:54:24
So I can kind of understand that, maybe Todd made her feel
00:54:27
safe because of the fact that he was so opposite.
00:54:31
But again, For me, I think the thing is, like I said, there is
00:54:39
opposite, there is okay, you're nothing like my ex-husband,
00:54:43
blah, blah blah. And then there is so far off the
00:54:48
so far opposite and off the spectrum that is like, huh,
00:54:55
because it's like for somebody like like Monique to be married
00:54:59
to somebody like ml. Who is obviously Pro black?
00:55:05
Let's just let's just put it in those times context.
00:55:09
Obviously like a, he's a, he's a black man.
00:55:12
He's, he's that black man. Black hip-hop head?
00:55:17
Yes, I don't see Monique going in the direction of somebody.
00:55:24
So, completely opposite. Like, Todd is borderline racist?
00:55:29
Except for the fact that he's married to a black woman, And
00:55:33
has a black stepchild. It's almost like he's like that.
00:55:36
Yeah I support Homeland and storm front and everything but
00:55:40
oh I'm not racist because I have a black wife and I have a but
00:55:42
he's that type of white person to Me.
00:55:45
Maybe maybe ties is a soup and his power is my control.
00:55:51
I don't know if I think or settle influencing, right?
00:55:58
He's a Jedi. These are not the droids you're
00:56:03
looking for. I'm not a racist.
00:56:10
Your daughter belongs to me, Siri better third leg, that may
00:56:23
be, but the whole thing just seems so weird to me, especially
00:56:30
considering you have a child in the midst of all of this, you go
00:56:34
from one marriage to another, that quickly.
00:56:38
And then The type of person you are exposing a child to like he
00:56:43
is taking her to a superhero rally for Homeland.
00:56:47
Or do you not remember what the fuck you were on the run for a
00:56:51
while? You were in hiding like none of
00:56:54
it makes sense to me. Maybe it'll all be explained in
00:56:59
season 4. It's got to condition.
00:57:03
Don't make sense, it doesn't make it make sense.
00:57:06
How the girl does not make sense as a black woman.
00:57:11
It don't make sense. None.
00:57:15
Nada. Not Ambit of since it just
00:57:21
doesn't. Yeah, right I am.
00:57:27
Anyway. So anyway, okay.
00:57:34
So now we get to the, the bra. We can get to the brawl.
00:57:38
Yes. So of course, Frenchie Annie Mae
00:57:43
butcher. Chemical.
00:57:48
They all get together? They go to, they go to vote
00:57:51
Tower to confirm and Butcher Block, oh yes, for sure did.
00:58:02
Yes. So they're getting ready to go
00:58:04
to bot Tower. This is when made throws away
00:58:07
the nerve agent and she was like, no!
00:58:09
He's right. Oh, my under has to die.
00:58:12
Because Soulja Boy is about to like light up.
00:58:16
Hannah Starfire about to about the fuck.
00:58:20
Did I just say Starfire? Wow, wrong.
00:58:23
Slow Universe, Emma. Annie was I forgot.
00:58:27
She's not Starlight anymore. She's Annie.
00:58:30
They are about. They look like they're about to
00:58:31
fight, like they're about to go at it and maybe it's like, nope,
00:58:37
Homeland or has to die. We're not about to fight
00:58:39
butcher. Locks them in the safe.
00:58:42
He made and Soulja Boy, they had to vote Tower.
00:58:46
Wow, you know, the rest of them are trying to get out of this
00:58:49
safe. So when they finally do get out
00:58:51
the safe, they're trying to figure out there like okay,
00:58:54
yeah, we need to go after them and mmm is like, so how are we
00:58:58
supposed to do this? We can't do, you know Maeve got
00:59:01
rid of the one thing that can take down Soulja Boy and French
00:59:04
is like well I think I you know, there is one lab here in New
00:59:09
York that might have the ingredients that I need.
00:59:13
To make the novichok and what was it him say?
00:59:17
He was like the most important night of my life and I'm and I
00:59:20
gotta rely on cook poked out. Eurotrash.
00:59:24
Looks like you can't even have a little bit.
00:59:29
I mean I understand you mad but you can't even have a little bit
00:59:31
of respect, dude. Just told you that you are one
00:59:34
of the greatest man he's ever known and you got to call him
00:59:36
coked-out, eurotrash cokehead. I feel offended for France, he's
00:59:41
back. Oh yeah.
00:59:43
I mean while it's well, it's yay.
00:59:45
True at the moment, it is, you know, where is the LIE?
00:59:51
The coked-out. Yeah, she's about to save your
00:59:53
ass because he's about to go find a lab in New York, so that
00:59:56
he can make you some more nerve agent.
00:59:58
What friend of yours is gonna do that for you, but but he's
01:00:01
telling the truth, he's relying on all their coat, now your
01:00:05
trash again, but the Sauber eurotrash might not have
01:00:09
thought, hey, there's a lab where I can go and make me.
01:00:12
Shit. I don't know if he will.
01:01:07
Anyway, I mean yes so they get out of the safe.
01:01:12
Ranching and chemical decide. They're going to go to the lab
01:01:14
to try to make more nerve agent. Wow, Annie Huey and mmm are
01:01:20
going to bot Tower to try to stop Soulja Boy and the whole
01:01:25
Soulja Boy and Homeland anything, I'm like, hmm.
01:01:28
Okay so you got one super you've got one kind of so I don't even
01:01:33
think he is a temp soup at this point because I think the V that
01:01:37
he had in his system has worn off and then you have mmm who
01:01:41
Who is big and has a grudge but has no superpowers.
01:01:46
Yeah. And we are aware of that.
01:01:48
We are aware of and I'm still all the people that they're
01:01:52
going to fight our all souped up including butcher.
01:01:57
I don't know. I take him another dose of tent
01:01:59
V even though he knows he's going to kill him.
01:02:03
I just really think that I'm surprised didn't come out a
01:02:06
little bit with mother's milk, like having like showing that he
01:02:10
has, he has a, he has some limited invincibility because
01:02:14
after all that shit, when Stormfront blew up that car and
01:02:17
he like rolled out with, like, hardly any damage unless he's.
01:02:21
No, but I was, everybody was like, does have powers, he has
01:02:25
that power. There's no chance that he
01:02:26
wouldn't have been fucked up from that.
01:02:28
And it's like, okay, this, I think that's one of the yeah.
01:02:32
Of the storylines. They may have in their back
01:02:34
pocket just in case the, you know, boost her ratings or
01:02:39
feeling can be interesting, if they do, bring that out.
01:02:42
Yeah, because bush is gonna be like, oh, you're a sube.
01:02:46
Yeah, cut your give me all that shit, right?
01:02:51
You want them from the Via? Stop.
01:02:53
Yeah, kind of both of y'all. Your accents are horrible hush.
01:02:59
Hey, I've never proclaimed. You agree.
01:03:06
Our homeland is there and you know, the Three Amigos.
01:03:12
Come up. Soulja Boy Butcher and May and
01:03:16
home Lander is he's really trying to be He's trying to
01:03:23
master this whole family reunions, he's talking to
01:03:27
soldiers ways like look I don't want to fight.
01:03:28
I just want to talk and you know of course, we know Soulja Boy
01:03:32
is, they're looking for black noir.
01:03:33
He was like yeah, no war is dead.
01:03:35
I killed them and Soldier was like, why?
01:03:39
Because he didn't tell me about you, he was like, you know, I
01:03:41
just want to fight you. I want us to be a family, you
01:03:44
know, I'm your son, you know, I'm your blood, I'm your blood,
01:03:49
you know. And then And he brings flying
01:03:52
out. So he took right from your
01:03:55
father. No he's no, that's not you.
01:04:02
This is my son. Hi Grandpa.
01:04:04
I was like no that was that that seemed.
01:04:09
So that was so cringe-worthy is like he looks easy.
01:04:13
Ryan looks so uncomfortable saying that you just like hi
01:04:16
Grandpa. It's just like it's just like
01:04:18
kids going to a February Union where you were It's like member
01:04:21
you go to the family unit, you know, nobody there and they're
01:04:24
like, this is your unsold so you like.
01:04:26
Hey, so and so like, don't don't touch me.
01:04:29
I don't know. You like I know enough to
01:04:31
remember who I was. Yeah, I remember you.
01:04:34
When you were this big and you were walking around in diapers
01:04:37
and your diapers falling off, I'm like, oh God, I just really
01:04:40
weird seeing somebody called just an actress.
01:04:42
Grandpa that was weird for me, right?
01:04:45
I would like I would like to make an observation about tuck
01:04:48
the, you know, and I was a baby. To the back with Homeland
01:04:56
Homeland, ER, we realize now has like this idealized unrealistic
01:05:01
view of fatherhood and family. Like with this, he base his idea
01:05:09
of what fatherhood should look like and what being a family
01:05:12
salut, like, hey, where is he getting this?
01:05:17
Right. So, where is he getting it from?
01:05:19
Because happy, If your books right?
01:05:22
See, automatically think. So, he's my father.
01:05:25
So we have a connection, but, you know, we learned in the
01:05:29
previous conversation with with Soulja Boy at.
01:05:35
He didn't necessarily care too much for his dad or rather, his
01:05:39
dad didn't care too much for him.
01:05:41
Didn't care too much for him because then he tried to impress
01:05:44
his dad. Yeah.
01:05:47
So so we have these two different versions of Fatherhood
01:05:52
him. I just think Homeland really
01:05:55
just not having or just lacking the knowledge of what a family
01:06:01
is and not understanding that it's not black and white when it
01:06:04
comes to family. Yeah.
01:06:05
Because sometimes is great about it.
01:06:07
The way that he was raised that vets that's to be expected.
01:06:12
What I thought was interesting is, and we've seen this since
01:06:16
they introduced Soulja Boy. And they started kind of going
01:06:20
towards towards that direction of the reveal of him being home,
01:06:24
Landers biological father, because we see so many different
01:06:28
similarities between them, even though they had never met.
01:06:31
Each other never been around each other.
01:06:32
Never knew about each other. There's still the similarities
01:06:36
when Soulja Boy is talking to butcher about his own father, he
01:06:41
talks about. Yeah, I was this.
01:06:42
I was that I was, you know, I was an All-American boy and my
01:06:45
father, liked his father, sent him to boarding school.
01:06:48
He was like, his dad was rich, but he was Yeah, the the story
01:06:52
of Soulja Boy was supposed to be the he grew up in the streets of
01:06:56
Hard Knocks and blah blah blah. He was like, that wasn't me.
01:06:59
I grew up in boarding school. I went to boarding school.
01:07:00
I was a rich, you know, I was a rich it he was like, but my dad
01:07:05
thought that I was a, you know, his words or the way that
01:07:08
they've described was a pond. So I went to, I enlisted in the
01:07:12
Army, I signed up for Vash trials, I was the first soup,
01:07:17
you know I did this. I did that.
01:07:20
I came home, they threw me. Me a parade and what she was
01:07:22
like, oh, your dad was proud of you.
01:07:24
Then he was like, no, he said, I took the shortcut.
01:07:26
He called me a disappointment and it was, it's that thing
01:07:30
where you see even though he talks about his old man, you
01:07:33
could tell that that discipline that that hurt him, because he
01:07:36
really wanted to live up to his dad's expectations.
01:07:40
And I think his dad's rejection kind of led to him being the
01:07:44
asshole that he eventually became not just to his team, but
01:07:51
I mean, a lot of, I mean, think about M&M's wall that the
01:07:55
beginning of the Season, he had nothing but articles about all
01:07:58
the soups and all the stuff that they've done and like we know
01:08:01
he's killed several members of M&M's family.
01:08:05
I don't know what it is about those two that they are drawn to
01:08:07
each other like a magnet, but there is that, that connection
01:08:13
there. But to to hear Soulja Boy, talk
01:08:17
about his own dad and how he was a disappointment to his dad.
01:08:21
And to know that he really wanted to please his father and
01:08:25
then because he wanted so bad to have his own family.
01:08:30
We find out that he looks at that and he thinks his wheat.
01:08:34
So when whole ladder is telling him all this stuff, oh yeah, we
01:08:38
can really be a family. Now you know, I'm your blood.
01:08:40
You are my father, we can be a family.
01:08:42
Here's my son, this is your grandson where you know and he's
01:08:47
thinking that this will soften sort Soulja Boy up Soulja Boy's
01:08:51
just like I hate that I really miss so much because if I had
01:08:55
been here to raise you I could have made sure that you were in
01:08:59
a pussy. A Homeland is like what?
01:09:03
Yeah, it's like three, basically, he basically became
01:09:05
his own father, he came, he became his own series on cloud,
01:09:10
was him with him. He saw him.
01:09:13
He saw himself in his in, and he, and I think he realized will
01:09:18
not realize, but I think he understood Rightly or wrongly
01:09:24
where his father was coming from and adopted that and like, oh
01:09:28
yeah, he's a pussy that toxic masculinity.
01:09:31
Yeah, you know. Oh, they must be this people.
01:09:36
And that sort of mindset. That's because so, cold-blooded,
01:09:40
he was just like, I wish I could have raised.
01:09:42
You like me to said, then you went to bed a pussy.
01:09:45
What it's a week week. I was like damn son.
01:09:51
Wow. Thank you.
01:09:52
Thank you. Just dressed event.
01:09:53
It's like any whole blender for 14 is like he didn't know what
01:09:56
to do. You like to have punch him.
01:09:57
Do I hug him? Do I try to talk him out of it?
01:10:00
Like he was just standing there like that.
01:10:04
He was like, this is the one thing I have wanted this whole
01:10:06
time. and, Whatever, you know, he went, he went from the smug,
01:10:14
look, he had when he pulled Ryan out to just be like to jaw just
01:10:18
like slack, like shit. Well, that's the thing because
01:10:23
at that point, he does like grab home Lander like he's gonna he's
01:10:28
gonna kill them. and, It's at this point.
01:10:35
You know, Ryan is still there, Ryan is seeing all of this and
01:10:38
Ryan is like, stop stop stop. And then he blasts Soulja Boy
01:10:43
and I was like, oh, this shit is about to get ugly, is because,
01:10:48
of course. Soulja Boy has no kind of
01:10:50
connection to Ryan grandson or not, he's like, fuck you, you
01:10:55
just blasted me. So he blasts Ryan Ryan, remember
01:10:59
he's from he's also from a different time than time.
01:11:01
He's from, you can piss. Your kids around?
01:11:05
Yeah, yeah. And you throw it off the roof
01:11:08
without it without people judging you and saying, you
01:11:11
could have killed him like a building character.
01:11:14
Do you know how to fly? Yeah, I mean, again nature
01:11:19
versus nurture but you know, he blasts Ryan.
01:11:24
Ryan gets knocked out a little bit.
01:11:26
Of course home. Landers, going towards him like,
01:11:30
oh my God, what are you? Okay.
01:11:33
He gets mad. They're getting ready to fight.
01:11:38
And butcher is getting ready to go after Soulja Boy.
01:11:43
Because, of course, Ryan is, I don't know what you call the
01:11:48
time. He's not a stepson but, you
01:11:50
know, he's Becca's son, and you just attacked him.
01:11:55
So now butcher is like, oh yeah, all bets are off.
01:11:58
I'm about to whoop your ass now. So then it just becomes this big
01:12:01
free-for-all, because Butcher, and Soulja Boy are starting to
01:12:06
go at it. And then, Maybe starts going at
01:12:09
because I think home Landers about to go after Soulja Boy
01:12:12
himself and then made comes in he's like may not.
01:12:15
Now I got bigger fish to fry, maybe he's like, I don't and
01:12:19
they get it to this epic battle. Now I'm like this is the made
01:12:23
that I have been wanting to see. Like, I love her fight scenes
01:12:27
because that's when you really see how strong her character is,
01:12:31
and I'm like, why have they been giving her background shit for
01:12:35
three seasons? That's another thing I think
01:12:40
that pisses me off too is because her character wish.
01:12:43
When we do see her one, she's not in the show very often.
01:12:47
We don't get to see her a lot. So I just feel like it.
01:12:52
It's it's kind of sort of been a waste of her character.
01:12:55
Now, I don't know if they're bringing her back in season 4
01:12:57
because she is technically just human right now.
01:13:01
She's a regular schmuck and she says, because, you know, she she
01:13:05
takes Soulja Boy's blast during this fight scene, but She should
01:13:12
have been given so much more to do instead of just being as
01:13:16
random background character, because in this scene, we see
01:13:19
she's fucking strong. Like she is whooping home.
01:13:21
Landers asked, she's the only person that I can recall seeing
01:13:26
who actually did some damage to him to where he started
01:13:30
bleeding. I mean the guys did it too but
01:13:32
it was three on one at that point.
01:13:35
Yeah. When in the comic book World
01:13:37
sees sees like number two, behind Oh my under.
01:13:42
Yeah yeah but is it that the Gap is so big between.
01:14:11
What is the key to using? Like he was like, that's my wife
01:14:14
son. And then he was like what?
01:14:16
Homeland of fucked your wife. My old don't say it like that,
01:14:21
because that's really going to put piss butcher off, which it
01:14:24
does, right? They started fighting.
01:14:26
And in the midst of all this fighting going on, here comes a
01:14:29
knee and Huey and mmm Huey is going to like the he's going to
01:14:37
like the control room. He gets on the internet on the
01:14:40
intercom. Almond tells everyone.
01:14:42
Hey, there's a terrorist threat. You need to vacate Vault Tower.
01:14:46
So everybody starts leaving. Now I will say this before we
01:14:49
get back to this fight, Ashley is a cold bitch because she's
01:14:53
getting ready to go to the helipad and her assistant.
01:14:56
Ashley is with her and she turns around.
01:14:59
She looks like she was like, where are you going?
01:15:00
Ashley. She's like with you Ashley.
01:15:03
Oh, I'm sorry. The helicopters only for senior
01:15:06
vice presidents and above. Sorry I was like You bitch, you
01:15:13
bitch, you bald-headed, bitch. But anyway, I just snatched that
01:15:17
fucking weed, man, man. Anyway, so going back to all of
01:15:24
this. So Annie, and mmm, come in.
01:15:29
They start fighting or I don't know if I really want to go.
01:15:34
Mmm, doesn't fight. Mmm.
01:15:35
Tries to pull a gun. And, of course, you can't bring
01:15:38
a gun to a superhero fight because that's just not good
01:15:41
work. And he is having not a great day
01:15:48
because Soulja Boy's just throwing her around like a rag
01:15:50
doll in the meanwhile, while all of this ass-kicking is going on
01:15:55
involved Tower Frenching D'Amico are in the lab.
01:16:03
Trying to cook up this neurotoxin.
01:16:05
This nerve Toxin. And here comes the security and
01:16:10
Kumiko starts to pull her Maniac pose, which I thought was cute.
01:16:17
I was like, okay, here we go with the, with the dance and the
01:16:20
music references and She does have her superpowers back
01:16:27
because she injected herself with the V last episode.
01:16:32
So the soldiers come in, they start trying to shoot and she
01:16:36
just goes on a rampage. and I was like, this is so painful to
01:16:44
watch, because I literally felt every stabbed, every whatever I
01:16:49
was sitting there watching it, like this like, oh, this hurts,
01:16:52
like, oh, like I'm sorry. All these people who are running
01:16:56
in here with these guns, the minute she drops.
01:16:58
The first two or three or four or five of y'all.
01:17:02
The rest of y'all should take note and back the fuck up and go
01:17:06
back out the room. Like, why are you still sitting
01:17:09
here giving her fresh things? To kill.
01:17:15
Makes no sense. But anyway, one of the soldiers
01:17:18
does get a shot off when she tries to divert, she tries to
01:17:22
push the gun away. It ends up shooting French and
01:17:25
leg. Now, you know, at this point,
01:17:27
I'm pissed off. I'm like, kill them all, kill
01:17:29
them. All out of shot.
01:17:32
My baby Frenchie now. But in the midst of all of this
01:17:36
fighting and shooting and everything going on friend, she
01:17:39
somehow manages to finish making the novichok.
01:17:44
I was like, wow. I don't know.
01:17:52
Anyway, when we know that's not realistic.
01:17:56
So anyway, he gives her the novichok he of course, can't run
01:18:00
can't walk, so he tells her to go take it.
01:18:03
So when she does get to vote Tower, they are having this, you
01:18:08
know, again they're having this battle made and Homeland are are
01:18:13
pretty much. They are like I looked at their
01:18:16
fight and it was like watching Captain America fight, Captain
01:18:20
America. Like I can do this all day.
01:18:24
Because they're trading blows and they're ripped like they're
01:18:27
doing the same amount of damage to each other over in the other
01:18:32
room. Like I said and he's getting her
01:18:34
ass whipped. Butchers getting his ass whooped
01:18:39
but he's got enough of a an edge that he destroys Soulja Boy
01:18:46
Shield. Who's like, okay.
01:18:50
So if this moment Soulja Boy's yes, now his shield is gone.
01:18:55
He knocks butcher out the way. And Kimiko comes in with the
01:19:01
novichok and she tries to go to him, but of course he has great
01:19:04
peripheral vision and apparently grabs her throws her.
01:19:08
Here comes a knee and he gets up.
01:19:10
She's about to start doing her little Starlight thing.
01:19:13
There's not enough power Q. It looks at everything on the
01:19:17
screen on the security screen. And he's like, oh no and he's
01:19:22
about to die because Soulja Boy looks like he's about to start
01:19:26
powering up, but Huey has a vial of tenth be that was on the
01:19:31
ground when they left the office.
01:19:35
So he considers taking it even though he knows it will kill
01:19:39
him. And he decides.
01:19:41
No, this is what I can do. He starts turning up all the
01:19:45
lights in the room so that it power Starlight because again,
01:19:49
her power comes, you know, she gets more powerful, the more
01:19:53
electricity because there is now I will say this, I understand.
01:20:01
How great that moment is supposed to be it would it felt
01:20:05
so cheesy to me which moment the moment where she's powering up.
01:20:13
Oh, looks over and then she starts lifting off the gravity.
01:20:17
It's just like it just, it just felt so cheesy to me but I was
01:20:22
like, okay, this is what it's supposed to be supposed to be
01:20:24
cheesy. Soulja Boy, is looking at her,
01:20:26
like, what the fuck is going on? I was like, why does he look
01:20:29
surprised that this? He's a Shoot.
01:20:32
Why would he be surprised our? Oh my gosh, she's floating in
01:20:34
the air. I'm sure he's saying Powers
01:20:36
similar to hers or as good as hers.
01:20:40
I just don't think he would have been in shock that long.
01:20:44
That it took you know so long that it took him to realize.
01:20:50
Oh I need to power up and destroy this bitch.
01:20:51
I feel like he should have been done.
01:20:55
I don't, I don't know. I don't he's like you said, you
01:21:01
said the Supreme level of confidence, like, whatever she's
01:21:06
doing is probably it's just lies.
01:21:09
You know, I mean, so he's not thinking you see, he just threw
01:21:12
her around the room like she was Neff.
01:21:15
Yeah. He's already feel like she's
01:21:17
giving her. She's giving him his her best
01:21:19
shot, and you did nothing. Yeah.
01:21:21
So, whatever she's doing is not not of consequence.
01:21:25
So, okay, I'm going to pick up my little piece of s.h.i.e.l.d.
01:21:28
I'm going to stabbing decapitator and he wasn't
01:21:32
expecting her to Black Suzanne's, like she did.
01:21:34
Yeah. But I don't know, I guess I feel
01:21:36
like well then again, we don't know.
01:21:41
I think up until this particular moment when he got It into this
01:21:45
fight. We didn't know if he knew how to
01:21:46
control the blast as well, you know what I'm saying?
01:21:51
Like, here we see him use it in times when he was going through
01:21:54
his PTSD or times when he was pissed off.
01:21:57
Like I said, I think him looking at her even in that, like, oh,
01:22:02
what is she doing? I don't know it.
01:22:05
I feel like what it felt how much, how much power she was
01:22:09
gaining because I don't know, no, he One.
01:22:16
He has a little bit of control. He has enough control to be able
01:22:19
to call it. But remember, it takes him a
01:22:21
long time when he's making a conscious effort to do, this is
01:22:24
why he should have started when he first.
01:22:28
It's not going to be the first thing you think so because he
01:22:30
kind of leaves him vulnerable. Yeah.
01:22:34
So is easier to just grab this piece of Shields and cut her
01:22:40
head off? Because he's right there and
01:22:42
he's literally right there. Remember he has a supreme level
01:22:46
of confidence in his abilities? Yeah.
01:22:49
He's not thinking that whatever she's doing is going to affect
01:22:52
him, right? Not not any significant way.
01:22:55
He like I said he just throw around the room like she was
01:22:57
sniffing. That's true.
01:22:59
That's true. But yeah, so she she Last him
01:23:03
and he's looking kind of like oh what the fuck was that?
01:23:07
And so I guess at this point he's just like okay you know
01:23:09
what I'm done, I'm about to kill all y'all motherfuckers so he
01:23:13
actually gets ready like he looks like he's about to get
01:23:17
ready to start and then in the midst of all, this Homeland or
01:23:23
made were still fighting Homeland or has now gouged out
01:23:26
one, amazed eyes. And as she's watching everything
01:23:30
going on, she finds something on.
01:23:32
Ground, she turns around and sticks it in his ear.
01:23:35
Y'all, I pause the TV because I was like, I felt that go through
01:23:38
my skull that shit like even now my ear is like, throbbing,
01:23:43
because I'm talking about it, but yeah.
01:23:46
So they've both done each like horrible damage to each other.
01:23:51
I'm sure, Homeland he doesn't have it your drum at this moment
01:23:54
and made does apparent apparently does not have a right
01:23:57
eye. And at this point, Point after
01:24:05
Starlight his knocked out or not down.
01:24:08
I should say Soulja, Boy, this is when mmm Butcher.
01:24:13
And may they all they all grabbed him because they realize
01:24:17
the, the nerve agent is on the floor.
01:24:21
They grabbed him so that they can put the mask over him.
01:24:27
And when he realizes what they're doing, he's like, oh no,
01:24:32
y'all not going to put me back in that fucking box.
01:24:34
I'm not going back. So then he starts powering up
01:24:38
Macy's. What's going on Starlight?
01:24:41
Looks at maybe, maybe it's just looking like So right before he
01:24:47
lets out this blast while he's still powering up, she runs and
01:24:53
pushes him out the window and they are falling falling
01:24:56
falling. And he finally lets loose with
01:25:00
this blast and it takes out. Several several floors of the
01:25:05
building of vote Tower and some surrounding buildings.
01:25:09
And Yeah, they just disappear. So after this whole Lander is
01:25:18
still ready to fight. he's getting ready to attack Butcher,
01:25:23
and Ryan is there and butchers trying to reach Ryan, you know.
01:25:29
Hey, Ryan are you, okay? And Homeland is about to fight.
01:25:34
He was like, you know what, y'all just fucked up my whole
01:25:36
night. I thought I was going to reunite
01:25:38
with my daddy. Have, you know, have father?
01:25:41
Son and Grandpa time. Three generations is gonna be
01:25:44
cool. Y'all just like that whole thing
01:25:46
up. So now I'm about to fuck y'all
01:25:47
up because you're just really ruin my life.
01:25:50
And Ryan sees that this is about to be a problem.
01:25:55
He goes to home manner. He, he was like, Dad, I want to
01:25:58
go. I want to go, let's just go.
01:26:02
And of course butchers like Riot.
01:26:04
I'm like why did why would you think that Ryan would go with
01:26:06
you? You treated him like shit.
01:26:07
The last time he saw you, right? Like and I know it was kind of
01:26:13
hard for William to look and be like oh he really wants to be
01:26:17
with Homeland and behold Mander his never treated Ryan, like
01:26:22
shit from the moment he met him and find out about him.
01:26:27
He may not have been the best example for him, but he's never
01:26:30
like, he's always it seemed like he's always put Ryan first.
01:26:37
And I think Ryan sees that he's like, look, dad, I want to go,
01:26:40
let's just go. And when butcher calls, Ryan's
01:26:43
name, Ryan looks he walks over to home.
01:26:46
Landers other side. And he grabs his hand, and then
01:26:49
he looks at butcher. Like, now what?
01:26:54
Okay, so I hear what you're saying and I'm going to do
01:26:57
something, but I don't like to do.
01:26:59
I'm gonna give the writers too much credit what and and say
01:27:05
hold up hold up, because is possible bed Ryan.
01:27:11
Now realizes the situation he's in and knew that if you let it
01:27:18
go, the longer. Homelands with kind of cubature.
01:27:22
Yeah, yeah. I make you think about it.
01:27:27
Think about it. If once Ryan realizes that that
01:27:32
to kill everybody, everybody. He's like you know what, let me
01:27:35
just comment that he's been around a long enough.
01:27:38
Let me calm down because he's gonna kill Butcher.
01:27:40
And richer might really be my only way out of this, so I'm
01:27:43
gonna give the rider some credit deadbeat be have Ryan doing
01:27:47
this. I know, it's probably not true
01:27:50
and I know it's a stretch but I'd like to think that Ryan
01:27:54
isn't going to go down there. The world I would have been last
01:28:00
seen. I don't know.
01:28:02
That was the inspiration for the panel that that I'm going to do
01:28:06
the fostering. Those were spilled the dancing
01:28:10
as far as Ryan can tell, like everybody keeps telling him
01:28:13
home, lenders is bad person, bad person for home, Lander is the
01:28:17
only person who is actually shown him.
01:28:20
Genuine, kindness kindness, nothing but nothing.
01:28:24
But what's your was Nice to him because of Becca.
01:28:28
Yeah, but he's also been mean to him a couple of times too.
01:28:33
Hello butcher. Yeah, yeah, but I am and I know
01:28:36
that. But what I'm saying is, as far
01:28:37
as Ryan, like, I don't think he's looking at butcher.
01:28:41
Like I told he might be my only way out of this.
01:28:44
I think at this point he's really like, you know what, I
01:28:48
don't see nothing. But nice - and kindness from my
01:28:51
dad and him having my best interest at heart.
01:28:55
Because, again, Ryan is Young. He doesn't know what he doesn't
01:28:58
know what Homeland he did. So Becca No knows that for
01:29:02
whatever reason. Becca was afraid of Home Lander.
01:29:05
And as far as Ryan knows, I mean, think about it, in this
01:29:08
show, Ryan should be like maybe in between 11 and 12.
01:29:12
He's probably only thinking oh Becca was scared of Homeland or
01:29:15
because he's the most powerful super super human in the world.
01:29:20
And she might have been afraid that he was going to take me.
01:29:23
I mean, right? That could be the whole reason
01:29:27
why Ryan, you know, and I'm trying to get, I'm trying to,
01:29:32
I'm trying to do right now. I'm trying to get around out
01:29:34
here. I really, I want, I want to, I
01:29:38
don't want him to be like his dad, but I think after that last
01:29:42
scene, I don't, I don't think that avoidable, right?
01:29:46
We'll talk about that last scene in a minute.
01:29:48
Let's go to the other. Blue things.
01:29:51
So what we find out is that maybe is alive with Ashley and
01:29:56
Ashley back and bought Tower. They see surveillance footage of
01:30:02
the guys, the boys and chemical pulling her out of an alley and
01:30:08
she does, oh, oh yeah. Back to me.
01:30:10
Even though we know she's alive, But they're treating her
01:30:17
publicly as if she's dead. Yeah, that's what that's what I
01:30:20
was about to say. Because Ashley on the security
01:30:22
camera, when they see her Ashley looks and she's like, delete
01:30:27
secure delete. So she's like, yeah.
01:30:30
And I think for her maybe in her mind, that kind of absolves her
01:30:35
from her part, in maeve's abduction, and all this other
01:30:39
stuff. But no Ashley, you still, you
01:30:41
still a crappy human. But I mean, she does at least
01:30:44
hide that. At part the fact that made was
01:30:46
alive. And then we see Maeve and M&M's
01:30:50
apartment. She is with Elena, she is very
01:30:53
bruised, very broken. But she is, and she's very human
01:30:57
right now. Yeah, because he can't heal
01:30:59
anymore. Like, should be a killer.
01:31:01
Yep, like she said, it's gonna take her a while, just like all
01:31:05
the regular Schmucks in the world, but she is alive.
01:31:08
She's leaving with Elena. And she's going to go hide
01:31:12
somewhere, where Homeland or can't find her?
01:31:13
Which I mean, at this. Point.
01:31:16
I don't even know why Homeland would want to deal with her
01:31:18
because he's probably going to look at her like haha, you're
01:31:20
weak. But I know it's illegal thing.
01:31:23
He's gonna be like, oh, you did this to me you you know, you
01:31:26
betrayed me, you did this. Okay, whatever Soulja Boy is
01:31:32
back, I don't know if he's back in Russia but he is with
01:31:35
Mallory. He is back in a chamber and he's
01:31:41
not in Russia. Big item in some CIA secure
01:31:44
facility. Yeah, the Deep the Deep.
01:31:51
Yeah, Cassandra did leave him and that she's doing the talk
01:31:55
show circuit with her own book talking about how bad of a
01:32:00
person he is and he's sitting there eating what was he eating?
01:32:02
Ding Dongs and hohos or something.
01:32:04
Something like that, you know, my couch crying with his art
01:32:09
painting of him and Homeland or keeping him company.
01:32:12
I was like, you know what, you got, what you deserved.
01:32:14
I'm so sorry. You really did.
01:32:16
But yeah, like you said, as far as the public knows, maybe this
01:32:20
dead. She died.
01:32:22
Saving, everyone from Soulja Boy.
01:32:24
And that's the way bother spending it.
01:32:26
Just because nobody's looking for me, is now butcher is in the
01:32:31
hospital because after all the fighting, everything after Ryan
01:32:36
left with Homeland, ER, you know, he has a little more black
01:32:40
Gunk come out of his ear and he passes out.
01:32:42
So, in the hospital, the doctors, Owing him.
01:32:46
Yeah. So you got a lot of brain damage
01:32:50
and even if we do surgery there's no guarantee that your
01:32:55
quality of life will improve and basically you have months to
01:32:59
live, maybe 18 at the most Okay, so he's probably thinking that's
01:33:05
enough time to come up with a plan, right?
01:33:09
Especially because this because this last one was a suicide
01:33:12
mission. So you're basically telling me I
01:33:14
get another suicide mission. Yep, but back at the tower,
01:33:19
Annie has thrown her Starlight costume and Boots down the trash
01:33:24
chute, which I'm like, you should have burned that.
01:33:27
Don't get, don't let somebody do.
01:33:29
You know how much people are going to sell that for on?
01:33:32
Anyway they're sitting there talking and of course mmm
01:33:38
invites her the join the boy. So now she's official part of
01:33:41
the team Here. Comes butcher Looking around,
01:33:46
everybody's pissed off, everybody still pissed off at
01:33:48
him but it still butcher, he still technically least this
01:33:51
team, right? So I think the funny part of
01:33:56
that conversation was Frenchy demanding that they get dental
01:34:01
and vision and, and You are not the boss of me just yeah he's
01:34:09
going to be angling for something, right?
01:34:12
So there while they're sitting there trying to figure this out
01:34:16
In the background. On the news, they talk about the
01:34:18
drowning of the congressman and Dakota Bob has now picked a new
01:34:22
vice presidential candidate, and it's Bicky Newman.
01:34:27
And everybody's looking like, oh shit, what the fuck and butchers
01:34:32
like? Well that could have got to go.
01:34:37
I guess that's going to be his new thing.
01:34:38
And I mean and this point if she pops his head, what he's dying
01:34:42
anyway from brain damage. So what is it going to matter?
01:34:48
Homeland, it goes to, you know, there's a rat, there's still a
01:34:51
rally, there's a rally about, you know, against Starlight
01:34:54
still supporting Stormfront like Stormfront has been gone for a
01:34:58
while now. Y'all, she dead.
01:35:00
She dead dead. You know, she's dead and gone.
01:35:07
So there's like the news the news that is covering this
01:35:15
little Riot or this little protest, the the by line under
01:35:20
it says Storm Chaser, who accused Starlight of child abuse
01:35:24
is a registered sex offender. So basically the news was on
01:35:29
Starlight side and then of course, the news cameras
01:35:33
attacked by one of storm front slash home, Landers.
01:35:37
Its supporters. And then all of a sudden here
01:35:40
comes home Lander out the sky. So everybody's cheering for him
01:35:43
and he's like her. You know, you guys are the real
01:35:46
Patriots, you know, you're The Real Americans blah blah blah.
01:35:48
Hey you guys want to meet somebody?
01:35:50
Here comes Ryan flying down from the sky and and and home lender
01:35:55
introduces him as his son. Now this was the crazy thing.
01:36:02
So there was a protester there. Who threw something at Ryan
01:36:08
through a candidate, Ryan and hit him.
01:36:12
And then somebody somebody yelled liberal country was that
01:36:16
the person who threw the can at Ryan or did one of Homeland, our
01:36:20
supporters called that do deliver a cunt because I can't
01:36:23
really tell, but I was like, it would make no sense for him to
01:36:26
call Ryan that. But he did.
01:36:27
Just throw something at Ryan know, it was one of the it was
01:36:30
someone else who said You liberal fucktard something like
01:36:34
that. But yes, yes liberal four tires.
01:36:37
So when they do that whole and of course is piss Ryan, the shop
01:36:42
Because somebody just hit him home Landers pissed and he
01:36:45
lasers the head off of this dude and the dude falls and who is
01:36:51
there to look at all of this second time.
01:36:55
Todd. And Todd looks at everybody else
01:36:59
is quiet because they're like oh shit Homeland or just like laser
01:37:02
this dude's head off and Todd is like oh this is looking like
01:37:08
what the fuck? And then because of Todd, the
01:37:13
whole crowd starts cheering Homeland.
01:37:16
Ron Homeland is looking like, oh I just killed somebody and they
01:37:22
don't give a fuck. Yeah this is what I like.
01:37:25
Hmm. Are you looking around at
01:37:26
everything and then this slow very very subtle, very small
01:37:32
smile creeps up and I was like you know there was very much
01:37:38
like some other persons Saying, oh, I could kill someone and in
01:37:42
Madison Times Square and no one would say it.
01:37:45
Damn. Yeah.
01:37:56
I was just like okay and and that's how we end the show with
01:38:00
that smile from Ryan. I was like okay is Ryan going to
01:38:04
be one of the bad guys and Caesar for like are we going to
01:38:07
get a time Jump? Because I mean if you seen the
01:38:11
kid who plays Ryan, this dude is sprouting up fast.
01:38:16
He's 11 12 year old dude. He's like that.
01:38:20
He's like the stranger things kids.
01:38:22
Yes, we can Collins, he's grown the dolls.
01:38:29
The show the event. Bill's never show re-watching
01:38:34
where they came back and the kid was like huge.
01:38:39
It was a show. We were watching.
01:38:40
I can't remember what it was. It'll come to me.
01:38:43
Okay, welcome. Yeah.
01:38:44
So that's our own. The Carl never grew up like
01:38:46
that, baby. I think it was a little more
01:38:50
subtle for call because the time jumps were, there were actually,
01:38:54
like, kind of sort of time. And then for calls age, like
01:39:00
when we started the show, he was 12.
01:39:03
But by the time he died, it was he was like 17, 16 17 somewhere
01:39:08
around there. Oh, will I'm lost.
01:39:14
Bebe. Heather Heather, right?
01:39:16
Him out and kind of Bring It Back at the end briefly because
01:39:22
he's going on, man. Okay, basically, okay.
01:39:25
Gotcha. You know, they were only
01:39:27
supposed to have been on the island for like a few months
01:39:32
either like you went from my to 18 okay, but yeah.
01:39:40
So anyway that's that's where we end.
01:39:43
Season three with that smile from Ryan.
01:39:46
And I'm just like, oh, this is about to be some shit because
01:39:50
now like butcher. Absolutely.
01:39:52
Cannot take temp be any more. Like cannot take it especially
01:39:58
if he wants to be a part of taking down.
01:40:01
Vicki Millman because if you already left and and 18 months
01:40:06
isn't is the maximum, the doctor didn't say, you had 18 months,
01:40:10
he said, 18 months on the outset.
01:40:12
Yeah, he's here. If that's the best you can do,
01:40:14
right? You may have two months, three
01:40:17
months, four months, if that considering the number of doses
01:40:21
you took. So yeah, he can't do shit.
01:40:27
You always not about to do shit because he knows the damage that
01:40:34
probably is already done to his brain is not as advanced as
01:40:39
butchers but you know she we had some damage because I mean even
01:40:42
at the Towards the end of this episode, he's sitting there with
01:40:45
a tissue, pull in brain matter out of his ear, so he can't do
01:40:52
shit. Mmm is not going to do shit.
01:40:55
Unless like you said and sees a for we find out that he actually
01:40:59
does have some kind of powers or some kind of dormant powers or
01:41:04
we just see. He has like some superhuman
01:41:05
strength or whatever the case may be French is not going to do
01:41:09
nothing, I mean yeah, they got to me go and they have an e
01:41:12
which which I think is funny that, you know, in a group
01:41:15
called The Boys, the women are the strongest members, you know,
01:41:19
physically but um, Yeah, I don't know cuz you got Homeland.
01:41:26
You got a very I don't even want to say Ryan is pissed off.
01:41:31
He's probably at this point in different to the rest of them,
01:41:34
he's probably pissed that butcher, you know because that
01:41:38
was what a year that that butchered took getting to know
01:41:41
him and stuff like that just to kind of turn on them.
01:41:45
And again I understand why butcher did it because butcher
01:41:48
was trying to keep Ryan safe, but you could have, you could
01:41:53
have went about that shit a different way.
01:41:54
And now you got two problems on your hands to really big
01:41:59
problems on your hands. It's not looking good, not
01:42:05
looking good at all. Three if you count Victoria
01:42:08
three problems but you know what?
01:42:10
I got no sleep Victoria to fuck alone.
01:42:13
Leave her alone there. Let her do what she's about to
01:42:16
do because we don't know what her agenda is.
01:42:18
Well, we kind of sort of know what her agenda is but as far as
01:42:21
like like she told start, right? She was like I don't want any
01:42:25
beef with y'all but just stay the fuck out of my way.
01:42:28
And I mean, I'm curious to know where powers Your child has.
01:42:33
Because we haven't seen her child since she injected her, so
01:42:37
I don't know. That's going to be interesting
01:42:39
and then of course we don't know if Soulja Boy is coming back for
01:42:42
season 4. We don't know if that storyline
01:42:45
is going to, you know. Yeah, there might be there might
01:42:48
be a day in storyline. I think that I think that story
01:42:51
lines over, I don't know if I feel like it's over, but it
01:42:54
might be paused, maybe just for next season.
01:42:58
Because something tells me that They probably would get another
01:43:04
season, you know? Especially I mean shit.
01:43:08
They got Jeffrey Dean Morgan during the next season which I'm
01:43:11
excited about another Supernatural.
01:43:13
Um every leaked where he is or what he's going to do.
01:43:18
It's going to be interesting. I do know he is filming right
01:43:22
now but yeah they haven't said they haven't said what it is and
01:43:26
I think somebody else got cast but I can't remember who it is.
01:43:29
I remember. the next time of year is season, 4 is going to be
01:43:34
interesting, but I think They may get a season five, I don't I
01:43:39
feel like maybe season 5 will probably be it depending on
01:43:43
where the story line goes. I mean, again I this is not a
01:43:47
comic that I've read so I don't know how far that story goes but
01:43:54
I mean, unless you, unless you kill off home Lander, and then
01:43:59
make Ryan the next big, big bad. I mean, how many times can you
01:44:04
pay? You fight go back and forth with
01:44:06
home Lander. It's going to get boring after a
01:44:09
while is going to get redundant unless they do something like
01:44:13
really really I don't know, unexpected out of the blue.
01:44:20
So I don't know, but I tell you this season. had a lot of
01:44:29
surprises, had a lot of eye-opening moments, And I'm
01:44:35
just sitting here. Like how are y'all going to
01:44:37
talk, Mike? We were talking about this.
01:44:39
I remember when we covered the second season when they did the
01:44:42
love sausage we were like how are they going to talk that and
01:44:45
then of course they opened up the season with a huge penis
01:44:51
exploding and then we get here orgasm.
01:44:55
So I'm just like what I don't even know if I want to ask.
01:45:00
What are you guys going to do to top this next next season?
01:45:03
Because I'm almost scared of what kind of imagination that
01:45:07
will take. Well, you know, I don't even
01:45:13
know. I don't know, I don't even know.
01:45:17
You're right. I couldn't have expected to
01:45:19
start the season with a big penis door in.
01:45:26
I don't know, I don't know where, where can they go with
01:45:29
this now? I don't know.
01:45:31
You know, we can we go add. I have no idea.
01:45:35
Especially Jeffrey Dean Morgan like this?
01:45:39
It, I don't think there's a correlation to where it's
01:45:41
happening in the comic books. I really don't think there is.
01:45:45
I don't know. I don't, I don't think so.
01:45:49
Because there is they're totally going with me.
01:45:51
They have they have some elements of wits in the comic
01:45:55
book but they've changed so much.
01:46:00
Hmm, nothing a bad way. Is this is different.
01:46:04
This is different. Yeah, I mean, and that happens a
01:46:08
lot of times were adaptations, but I'm just like, They're going
01:46:13
to make me want to go read it and I don't I just don't have
01:46:17
time to get sucked into Comics. I don't.
01:46:21
I don't I didn't hit the Powerball the last few weeks, I
01:46:24
don't have like money to just sit at home and just immerse
01:46:27
myself in this stuff. And that's what I'ma have to do
01:46:31
between this and Umbrella Academy.
01:46:34
And a lot of the other stuff that we watch.
01:46:38
I just don't have the time I really want to.
01:46:42
I just and then. Yeah, thank you.
01:46:45
Like I have it on in the background.
01:46:47
I'm like, damn, I haven't watched diabolical yet.
01:46:49
I need to watch that. Yeah, I haven't watched the
01:46:51
either. This there's so much, I don't
01:46:54
know. There's so much.
01:46:56
There's so much stuff that we got invisible getting ready to
01:46:59
come back. Finally.
01:47:01
We got Shadow and Bone getting ready to come back in a few
01:47:04
weeks. And next week is this week is
01:47:07
sad because we're going to be Atlanta.
01:47:09
Atlanta Comic-Con is here coming prevention.
01:47:15
We got Ant-Man coming up this week and we're doing our
01:47:19
Arthurian Legends recording for February for next week, which is
01:47:23
going to be A Knight's Tale. So it's a lot.
01:47:29
I don't I would love to, I don't know, maybe I don't know maybe
01:47:34
if I decide to do another solo cruise this year maybe I'll just
01:47:38
take some stuff and just read on on the deck while we're at it.
01:47:42
I don't know that. I feel like that's going to be
01:47:44
the only way I can actually sit down and like concentrate long
01:47:48
enough to read, but I do kind of want to see where the story for
01:47:53
the boys, like what is it doing in the comments?
01:47:57
And where it goes. I don't know.
01:47:59
Because the boy, I don't think it's still currently running as
01:48:02
a comic. Correct.
01:48:04
No, it's over comment. Yeah, this comic is is Dennis
01:48:07
one. Okay.
01:48:08
So I don't know. I get I'm thinking I'm thinking,
01:48:16
I'm half trying to figure that out.
01:48:19
But then I'm like I don't want to spoil anything that might
01:48:22
happen. I don't know I figured out.
01:48:25
I figured out whatever you got anything.
01:48:27
You let you got any final. Thoughts about the boy season 3.
01:48:31
No I think I said everything I wanted to say we have fun with
01:48:34
this season though. We did.
01:48:36
It was funny. They would because some fun
01:48:39
moments some explosive moments. I'm telling you that that's the
01:48:46
Soulja Boy storyline. Is really really well done.
01:48:51
I'll see that it was really well done, right?
01:48:53
So Props props to them for that, I enjoyed that love seeing
01:48:58
Jensen and Miss. Now, all they have to do is add
01:49:00
Jared, which I know they're, I think they're trying to figure
01:49:03
out a way to add Jared in. I don't know if it's going to be
01:49:06
like a guest by or if they're going to like, actually put in
01:49:09
him in for a couple of episodes. But you know, Kripke seems to be
01:49:15
bringing a lot of his Supernatural folks.
01:49:17
So I'm not going to Complain about that.
01:49:20
I have no complaints in this is, there's nothing wrong with it
01:49:23
either. Nothing because they're doing an
01:49:25
awesome job. Yeah.
01:49:27
But yeah. I'm I'm very curious and I'm
01:49:32
very fearful of what see the forecast doesn't look like.
01:49:37
I just don't know if I'm ready so we got a whole maybe a year
01:49:43
because I don't think they've announced when season for
01:49:46
supposed to come back. But again, they just started.
01:49:48
Then I think maybe a few weeks ago so they're going to be
01:49:52
they're going to be in in production for probably several
01:49:57
months and then they've got Pro post-production.
01:49:59
So I would guess maybe sometime next year.
01:50:05
Let's hope because I don't know if I can wait until 2025.
01:50:08
Like these long Hiatus has killed me.
01:50:12
No way was terribly is all the stuff starts at the same time so
01:50:17
when they Envy all have the long Hiatus and so there's nothing
01:50:21
going on while we wait. Well, Other stuff.
01:50:27
But a lot of it is stuff that we either can't or don't cover
01:50:31
right? Just because it may not fall
01:50:33
within our little wheelhouse. But I mean, I don't know, we'll
01:50:37
see what I mean. We got lots of Marvel stuff
01:50:39
coming up this year, so that'll that'll take, I think that'll
01:50:44
take the place of some of it, so, you know, we'll see.
01:50:48
But let's see. I think the only thing I'm going
01:50:52
to mention is, as you mentioned Atlanta Comic-Con.
01:50:56
It's an or ATL comic convention, we will be doing that next
01:51:01
weekend, February 24th, 25th, and 26th, myself.
01:51:05
Casey, Michelle, we will be doing two Walking Dead based
01:51:10
panels Anthony and I will be doing a father knows worst panel
01:51:14
and I'm sure we will be talking about home Lander.
01:51:17
In that panel is long and Soulja Boy Soulja Boy.
01:51:20
I mean we probably can throw butcher in there too since he
01:51:23
was a father figure. We're going to talk about Nolan.
01:51:27
We have to talk about. No.
01:51:28
So, you know, we'll talk about some other things too, but,
01:51:31
yeah, so we'll do that. And again, the convention will
01:51:36
have lots of Walking Dead people.
01:51:37
I think, I think the count is now 12 people from The Walking
01:51:42
Dead. The Hobbits will be there from
01:51:45
The Lord of the Rings. They've got other stars coming.
01:51:49
They've got voice actors coming. They have featured cosplayers.
01:51:52
Of course they're going to have vendors and all this other
01:51:55
stuff. So If you guys are in Atlanta
01:51:58
next weekend, come check it out. February 24th through the 26th
01:52:02
at the World Congress Center, you can find the convention
01:52:05
information. At www.att.com/biz cam, you can
01:52:10
find our information on Phantom hybrid.com.
01:52:14
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01:52:19
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01:52:22
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01:52:25
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01:52:28
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01:52:31
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01:52:34
And you know, just having some fun geek chatter as we like to
01:52:39
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01:52:43
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01:52:46
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