#shadowandbone #grishaverse Powered by the second amplifier, Alina experiences a block while trying to tear down The Fold. Sturmhond's true identity reveals an unexpectedly powerful ally for Alina. Kaz's obsession with taking down Pekka Rollins causes dissention amongst the Crows, Inej faces down her demon. A hurtful betrayal leaves Kirigan determined to keep control over the Grisha. Alina finds more allies as she is reunited with fellow Grisha. Kirigan realizes the extent of his connection to Alina. The Crows lay out the perfect plan to take down Pekka Rollins. After discussing her options with Mal, Alina makes a decision in the hopes of unifying Ravkans and the Grisha for good.
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What's up hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of The Phantom hybrid podcast. This is hanako and I am here
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with Anthony Lori and Mike and we are discussing episode 3 of
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Shadow and Bone season 2 in which we find out that Cass
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Brecker really is that motherfucker man.
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Listen. I mean just like this episode
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they spent a lot of time talking about finding weaknesses and
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it's like everybody found the those guys.
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Found especially Dugout the wrong weakness.
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Does he? That's the, he doesn't have him
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fighting with a cane. Is not a weakness.
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That is a decided strength. Let me tell you.
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So, we've always known the Cavs was like the leader of the group
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and, you know, you never really see him get physical, you know?
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And I was just like, when he walked up in there, he was like,
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I'm not here for the cowers in the cabbages.
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I'm here for the killers people like Me.
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I was like what is he? And when they started coming
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after him and he started fighting I was like oh wait like
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I'm looking at his character in a totally new light.
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Now there's yours. What does some ass?
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He wasn't he wasn't messing around.
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He was Anthony you just look so stoic.
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Well I mean you do you know how heavy the hands of a Cane is?
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It's it hurts man. First of all y'all, okay?
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First of all. Other than to do with the knife.
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How y'all gonna come him? He got a weapon if that's number
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one. I mean, I know he didn't have it
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that long but I'm just saying the first two or three guys are
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gonna get hurt. It's almost not to take away
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from his skill because if you think about it, he had nothing
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and he made it all the way up to owning his own club.
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Uh-huh. So he probably knocked a few
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hairs and he was probably somebody screw for a while he
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got where he was by being tough. Dave's.
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So you know, a to be really mess with him either, you know.
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Yeah. But he really got there by being
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smart but it's like this shows that it was you know, as soon as
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they lock the door because after me, I want actually re-watched
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The Kingsmen Kingsman earlier and when they locked it was
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almost a reverse of the part where you said where he says
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manners lock maketh lock man. Lady turned around and they turn
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around and through and through the mud.
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Tug at hit. Dude, in the head.
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I was like, oh, it's almost the same thing, but it's like, as
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soon as Cass put that came out, instead put it down like this
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and just stood there, I've been like, no, no.
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So, you know, no good, no good is Gonna Come towards you after
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that, and then he has that smirk on his face like, yeah, I'm
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about to fuck all y'all up. As I do stare at the bar like,
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yeah, you know, there's a lot of coin on your head.
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So, you know, I could just go ahead and use beat your ass and
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take it now. He's like, nope, right?
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I mean, any kind of he kind of warned us about it in the same
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before when he was talking to an ash because when she was asking
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him about his weaknesses, it was like the leg became people see
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that and they don't look for anything else, right?
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Yeah. They're so busy, looking at the
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fact that he's got a lip and that he has a quote unquote
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disability that they don't look at him and see any other
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strengths in him. Yeah cuz it's happening.
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It's time you wake up, you'll even in your own blood wondering
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how to heal you, how did I get here with it with the imprint
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imprint of a croquette, non them on your temple?
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Like I was just like, I was so impressed when I saw that
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because he literally like for some.
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And and if you look at the majority of his fight, cannot
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move from the position, he was in, like, he literally turned
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around in the circle in the same.
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Spot and he was just yeah and he said his facial expression
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didn't really change. Either is like he's still he was
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still had like that. Little even even lip scowl on
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his face the whole time, even when he was getting hurt.
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He looked like he was experiencing pain.
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He was just like, why are you hitting me?
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I'm going to come here, ready to beat your ass.
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Why are you? Why do you insist on continuing
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to try me? And it's like they pcbs are by
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his ass and it's like he's a he lives looks looks at him at the
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Barnes like Now I'm taking your men.
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I was going to be nice about it, but fuck you.
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Let me tell you the way he walked up to that, dude, because
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the guy was like what you just did?
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Hear that doesn't mean anything. He was like you know, you see
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you're still who you are. We're not going to do anything
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for you and Kaz walks up to him and he was like the price for
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this city is blood and I'll be happy to pay it in yours.
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The way that dude just went he does look down so slowly lie
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Like wow, you just really embarrassed me in my own house
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in front of my own people. And there is not shit, I can do
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about it. And when he turned around and he
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was like, who would you rather have standing at the door when
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the Lions come for you? He was like this or that because
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that other guy, I can't remember what his name was perhaps.
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Yes. But for him to be a leader, all
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he did was sit there. Like I'm really Sitting here
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looking at that scene. Like how did he, how did he get
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control of all those badasses? Because he doesn't look like he
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can do squat. No.
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I mean he bait. I mean this is like he stood an
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outfit him is like he looked him dead in the eye was like as soon
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as he started talking about pain City in his blood he was just
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like no sir I don't want to I don't want this will carry
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writers or if you have is look straight down to the floor.
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I was like yeah then everyone else we turned around he team
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has heated even stepped down those two steps and they just
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everyone else kind of took two steps back like oh shit and
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stood at attention instead of attention.
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I was like, okay so all right. Yeah and the title of episode is
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like calls to like yeah that's it for Killers like him.
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The fact the fact that none of them could like yeah they think
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I got an upper hand on him a little bit but it didn't last
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for long I was like okay. So there is more to Kaz Brecker
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than we have seen but that's the one thing I'm liking about this
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season is Because we're getting to see more of these characters
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that we know, and we're getting to see them in different ways
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like in Nash last season, in Nash barely wanted to fight
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because she didn't want, she didn't want to be put in a
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situation where she might possibly have to kill someone.
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This thing's are also known as was like oh this dude said he
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gonna take me back to the Menagerie let me go kill his ass
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right quick. No hesitation no regret, no
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nothing and as went after that doggone Taxi.
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The dermis and she was like, oh so you thought you was about to
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get the upper hand on me. Yeah let me show you something.
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I was watching this whole episode like okay, so we really
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see what the crows are about between last episode with Jasper
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and seeing Kaz and an ashen, this episode was like There's a
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reason they have gotten. As far as they have, like all
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these different dimensions to them.
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I'm loving it. And then again, like you said,
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with Kaz, you know, we knew he was smart, we know he's
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observant but even some of the things that we find out in this
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episode as far as how observant he is, the fact that he deduced
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that Pekka Rollins had a child because what he named the club,
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I was like I didn't even think about that, it just never
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crossed my mind, but again we don't really know, Pekka Rollins
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as well as cast us cast has had prior experience and we see a
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little bit more of that experience in his flashbacks in
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this episode, because his brother made a deal with Pekka
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way back when he was going to give him the proceeds from the
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sale of their father's farm. So that pet could invest it
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quote unquote invested for them and then give them the proceeds
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and mostly that was going to help them be rich and you can't
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really blame passes brother because he really thought that
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this was a legit opportunity for him to be able to take care of
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him and his brother for them not to be poor or just kind of like
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on the cusp of not being poor. He was really looking for an
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opportunity to help himself and his younger brother so that he
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could take care of them and Pekka Rollins screwed them over.
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Because when they went back in, A week to go get their earnings.
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Ha had cleared out of the house. Did they show that her?
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I miss that. They showed it in the flashback.
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I missed it. Okay, I must have been looking
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down, all right. But yeah, because that was
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because as soon as that little girl said, it's all a game, I
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knew she was in on it too, and I knew I was like, oh so they are
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going to follow the books with that because that was let's face
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it. What?
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Well I know what happens next but that was the start of just
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Everything that was wrong with him and an old boy seriously.
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Yeah. And you know, so the fact that
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he was able to say, you know, I know that there's a boy there,
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he named his Club, the kalish Prince when he would never date
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himself. Other than a king was like, oh
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wow, that's actually kind of clever if you think about it and
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even more so that cat has really paid attention to it.
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So it's like when just for told him and whining was like you
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promised you like keep that from him.
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This is the part. This is the person who leaves
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your group and regardless of the, I won't even say the
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errors. That cast is made.
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Yes, Casas made a couple of mistakes but I think that's just
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because he underestimated Pekka Rollins as well.
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But I think Pekka's going to learn to not underestimate cast
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as well because calves again in this episode went once he
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realizes The Albie is a thing and widen goes to him, he was
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like look, he has no control over who his father is you can't
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hurt him because it's like I'm gonna I'm gonna have to harm him
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but I do know how we're going to take him down.
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When Wireless is how and that look, that cast gives him before
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he says suffering, I was like this, dude is about to be
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unhinged. He is about to go all in because
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the look on his face. The the look on his face.
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I've never seen cast look like that before.
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He looked like, Yeah, he was like, oh, okay, Pat Corrales
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wants to, you know, put put a bounty on me.
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Okay yeah let's show him what this mounties Casas about to
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fuck him up. Okay huh, he he is specially
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with this because I mean I think I mean cuz you gotta think about
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like this Pekka Pekka is really kind of is a big part of his
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origin story and he hasn't really messed with him too.
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Tough. Like previously because he's had
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his stuff and Peck has had his stuff and they just kind of kept
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that shit separate he's like whatever.
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Yeah but your side I wouldn't be surprised if he has always been
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looking for angle probably I wouldn't doubt it.
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Yes yeah. Oh yeah definitely I think he's
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gonna get his revenge right. But I think he what he was doing
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was he was staying out of Pekka's way.
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Until he was ready to make his move.
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Because again, like like what it was revealed in the last
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episode, when his brother introduced him to pakka, he did
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use his correct first name. Now, Brecker is not cast his
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given name, but I would think that cats would be like, okay,
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just in case Pekka recognizes the name, remembers the name and
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then when Pekka confronts him in the last season and he looks at
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Pekka, he was like, have you and I met before?
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And Pekka was like, no, we Haven't because if we did you
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would know better. That was when cast was like,
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okay, now's my time, I can just start planning this.
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And of course when he comes back to keter damn and now Pekka's
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the owner of his Club, that's when he was like, okay.
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You know what? Next time.
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It's time to jump this shit off, exactly.
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He attempted to his baby, the named it after his baby, so he's
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like, oh, that's how we're gonna play it.
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All right, bet. Mmm.
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But the other thing was, As we see in the beginning of the
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episode, you know, after after they all have reserved have met
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up at the cemetery. This is after the Ambush by
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Pekka's people. Of course, Jesper is pissed off
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because in a, she's been hurt, and he feels like Cass is just
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putting them in danger because of his blood Feud with Pekka
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which again, looking at the way that Jesper is, looking at him.
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Him he doesn't know the full story, like he knows that
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there's something personal that Kaz has against pack of wheat.
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We heard that in last season but I don't think he knows the full
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details and I don't think anybody knows the full details
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until he says something to imagine this episode.
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But when they're sitting there talking and Nina comes out and
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she's talking about it Nash, you know, the the question was is an
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Azure okay? And she says well I'm not you
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know, by any means the best of healers but she will not be a
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permanent resident here and then just for says, not yet.
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While in comes in with this completely innocent anecdote
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about the cemetery and how they don't bury people there anymore
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because of the, what was it? Firefox, I think as pox because
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of the fire pox epidemic, that happened years back.
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So many people died that they couldn't bury them.
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In the cemetery, they used to have to just put the bodies in
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C. And then we see a flashback, the
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same flashback we've been seeing king of Kaz on a, you know, on a
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barge of big bodies their bodies and he loses it and everybody's
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looking at him like what the fuck?
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And I was like, oh, okay, so this is the thing that's
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affecting him and then when you look at the other stuff that
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happens in this episode, especially with him in the Nash,
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you know, there are certain things that we've noticed about
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Casas. Demeanor his behavior over the
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first season and into the season.
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That I think, once you start seeing this part of his
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backstory, you can start putting things together.
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The fact that Kaz is almost always fully covered except for
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his face, he always wears a hat, he always has gloves on.
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He always has long sleeves on a cloak, he keeps himself very
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cover. The fact that when in Nash takes
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her out, Outer shirt off to tend to her wounds on her arm.
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He looks away from her. And at first, I always thought
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that was just in deference to, you know, like respect.
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But know what you notice in this episode and in the episodes
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before kasim really does have an issue with flesh.
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And I think if you, if you remember, I think there was a
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one of the flashbacks from last season.
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Not last season last episode when he woke up on that barge
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with the dead people. And was trying to get up, he's
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touching flesh. And I think that that is a, that
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is the trauma, you know, trigger for him.
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He doesn't like flesh. He's never like hand-to-hand,
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you've never seen him like voluntarily touch anyone.
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I think we mentioned that in the last episode.
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So you start seeing all of these things and putting these things
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together, and like I said, in the last episode Cass needs a
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therapist, he really does. It's much more than a phobia.
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I mean there's a phobia and in there, there's actually a
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medical name for his condition. I forget what it is.
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I knew it last year. I am looking up here but it goes
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much deeper because it's something to the point where
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it's like his if Pekka ever found out.
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That that is his thing. Pekka could basically kill him
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by just putting him in a room with the whole bunch of bodies.
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He would literally just, you know, fade away from just sheer
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fear. Yeah, I mean, you see what
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happened in the first episode when Jasper got arrested and he
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was in, he was in the truck and the person just kept touching
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him. And you can see him starting to
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have this full blown panic attack.
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So it's like if that person had touched him had touched his bare
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skin, how would he have reacted? I mean, just the fact that he
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when he goes over to an edge and starts trying to take care of
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her womb, when he reaches out his hand for the cloth, I don't
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know if you noticed, you can see his hand, trembling a little
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bit. Like this is something that is
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so foreign to him. But he's willing to do it for an
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ash. Like, even this whole thing when
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she tells him she was like look you are putting us in danger and
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I deserve to know why, that's the very least you can do.
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When he hesitates to answer, she turns her back to him.
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In that moment, when he says Pekka Rollins killed my brother
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and she turns around and looks at him, I think she she
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understands what a huge step that is for him, because Kaz
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Brecker is not a man for sharing confidences.
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He's not mad to sit here a and give out his vulnerabilities.
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So the fact that he even trusted her with that much, you know,
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and she didn't make a big deal of it.
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She didn't say thank you for sharing me, what she was like,
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oh okay. Then then we destroy him.
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And the fact that I feel like just because of that response,
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he felt like okay, maybe I can get a little bit closer.
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Like he was really putting himself out there and I'm just I
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know she didn't do it on purpose but I was like Nina, you came in
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at the wrong time because what was about to happen.
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If heart blocker, Oh, um, FYI. The overwhelming intense,
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overwhelming fear of being touched just called half a
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phobia. Mmm, that's what it was.
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Yes, aha phe. Pho Bia.
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Yeah, because I don't even know if it's just the fact that he
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doesn't want to be touched. Like, he can't even look at
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flesh. And I mean, if you think about
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well, considering what happens to in the book, she can't blame
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them. Ryan, Anthony your You didn't
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you literally think? Um, I think he wanted to, he
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wanted, he was not looking here because you wanted to touch her.
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Like he probably had this overwhelming sense of wanting
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attention but he's is I don't think he's because it was a fear
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of Flesh. He would look at people like he
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just want to look at their faces because their faces flesh.
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So he probably had her Jour desire to touch her so he like
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Freaked her specifically. Yeah, I think it's I think it's
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a mix of both though you know. But um but I can understand it
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because of he has. If he has this reaction maybe he
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doesn't want to have the reaction that he has.
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We touches regular people when he touches her because he has
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such deep feelings for. He doesn't want to be.
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Like, if he touches her bare skin, he doesn't want to like,
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draw away and be an active repulsed by it.
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He wants to actually get over whatever fear he has and be able
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to touch. Her without feeling reviled or
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to just be able to, to be close to her.
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Because again, if she doesn't know that he has that phobia or
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that fear, that she may interpret his reaction in a
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different way as well. I think she does though, I think
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she knows she if she pays close attention to him as he does to
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her. Hmm she knows mmm.
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Yeah. See I seen those right smart
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enough to realize what's going on.
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Yeah. So you may not know why.
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So I mean, I know exactly where it is but she knows that he
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doesn't like to touch people because that's why he wears
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gloves all the time. Hmm.
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Should just bring those two. He's been with him long enough
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to know. He doesn't like to touch people.
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Mmm-hmm, I can't blame you if you if I was the only a live
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person on a barge, full of people did from something called
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fire Pops in just floating out in the middle of the sea.
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Like only one touch. Nobody either.
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I don't blame her at all. My best discussed that's nasty
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especially as a child have Going to go through that kind of
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trauma. Yeah.
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You know what they just basically they thought you were
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they thought you were dead too. So they threw you out with the
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rest of the body's just. Yeah.
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And how long was he very don't know how long he was there.
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Whatever. Yeah I don't think I ever said
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this is a Nila Nila could probably hear and feel their
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hearts beating. It's probably why she's like
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excuse me guys. You know you're having.
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What is it called? They're having I6.
00:22:14
They were Interrupted well, yeah, and I guess you would.
00:22:19
She's probably like, yeah, I don't want to be a part of this,
00:22:22
so let me make my presence known, but I believe the heart
00:22:25
rendering. She can probably kind of ignore
00:22:28
all the heartbeats, but if they get abnormally loud together.
00:22:33
Subscribe LOL. OK.
00:22:34
Be no, start speeding up a little bit too much for me,
00:22:38
right? Oh my goodness.
00:22:41
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, hold on everybody.
00:22:46
Yards knocks, you know, you don't like the people stopped
00:22:51
before he got out of hand. Yeah, but the funny thing about
00:22:56
all of this, you know, watching the series you notice how Casas
00:23:03
facial expressions is, like, he's never his never smiled.
00:23:07
He's never given any kind of indication that he is happy and
00:23:12
I have spent much of the last two weeks watching, All of the
00:23:17
press Tour. All of the interviews that they
00:23:20
have given about Shadow and Bone season 2 and Freddy Carter and
00:23:25
not stop smiling in these interviews.
00:23:27
It's no weird because you look at him when he's ready and he's
00:23:32
like, smiling. He's like happy, he's making
00:23:35
jokes, like he's really a very funny person.
00:23:38
And then we Turley different than he is on the show.
00:23:40
Yes. Because when you see him as Caz,
00:23:42
it's kind of like we're like he Does such a good job?
00:23:46
You would think this guy has no Joy about it.
00:23:49
If he, as good as record and I mean, he just does such an
00:23:54
amazing job. But okay, we're going to move
00:23:58
away from Kaz and the crows just for a moment, just for a moment
00:24:02
because we do have to come back and talk about Jeff Burton way
00:24:06
wildin, but we'll do that in a minute.
00:24:09
So let's let's go talk to this. Go talk about Alina and the
00:24:14
Grisha. And everything that's happening
00:24:17
over there. So she has the scales from the
00:24:20
sea whip, she is ready to go and try to get rid of the folks.
00:24:26
She thinks she's strong enough. Is she feels strong enough and
00:24:30
she thinks that she'll be ready for it.
00:24:32
Now when they get red, when they're sitting there discussing
00:24:35
it Chim out and talking about going on their own and star mind
00:24:38
is like no I want to be part of his life.
00:24:42
Sure. I want to see it and they're
00:24:43
like, okay well, you know, we're going to need Your help.
00:24:46
We're going to need some some part system, whatever.
00:24:49
He was like, nah man. Travel is so boring, you know,
00:24:53
expression. When he undocks the hummingbird
00:24:57
and they take to the air. That was so hilarious.
00:25:01
Because you think she's this big bad saying she's a son Summoner.
00:25:04
Okay, she is gathered enough like courage that she's like,
00:25:08
oh, I have fought the darkling. What's gonna scare me being in
00:25:12
the air apparently small. But Small boats decoupling from
00:25:17
a bigger boat. That's what you said.
00:25:19
She was like, she was like her expression was the funniest
00:25:26
thing and that was just like, Lena you really have to come see
00:25:29
this. She was like no.
00:25:30
No I don't. He's like yes.
00:25:31
You do know though. Okay, so when I went I went to
00:25:36
Key West, one time and I was on a schooner it's like it's just
00:25:40
like a regular sailboat and it's like we were going on the key
00:25:44
and this like it. It is the big boat and I was
00:25:47
like, okay, I can't go that fast.
00:25:49
This motherfucker was going at least 60, 70 miles an hour and
00:25:54
it was leaning where if you're sitting on the bench like you're
00:25:57
like the ocean and the key and the boat, like, the from the
00:26:02
from the edge were like about that far from each other.
00:26:05
And I'm just like, I'm just like you.
00:26:07
Okay? I'm like, hmm, I was just like
00:26:09
her like that. Literally reminded me of that
00:26:11
cuz I was glad I had the death grip.
00:26:13
I was like, oh God, I'm not going to.
00:26:15
I can't swim Can't swim that. Well, I can't sleep well enough
00:26:18
like oh fuck. I'm dead.
00:26:20
It was funny because Toya and Tamar were just looking at her
00:26:23
amused and now of course, you know he's like you have to come
00:26:27
look at this and he goes to grab her.
00:26:29
Now I will say this, this does speak to Alina's Trust of now
00:26:32
because she got up and went to that, lets, you know, Mal wasn't
00:26:36
going to put her in a position where, you know, something was
00:26:39
going to harm her, and her expression when she opens her
00:26:43
eyes and she sees that they're in the air near fly.
00:26:45
Lying in this beautiful and she was like, oh my God, how is
00:26:47
this? And I was like, that's just
00:26:49
sounds so weird to me. Because we're used to seeing
00:26:51
airplanes, like we've all been on airplanes, that's like
00:26:54
nothing for us. But to think about a world where
00:26:59
Air flight is not a thing. It's not a thing, you know, not
00:27:04
even. And it's not even.
00:27:06
I don't even think this is considered, like, I was going to
00:27:09
said primitive world, not a primitive world but you know,
00:27:12
this is modern time but to think About this being a world where
00:27:17
air travel is not is not normal like Sturm Han, literally
00:27:23
designed this aircraft and it's probably the first thing to be
00:27:28
in the air with people on it was like, oh, that's just kind of
00:27:32
in. She kind of has like, Kelly's
00:27:33
reaction. When she saw airplane, in The
00:27:35
Last of Us who was like twenty one of those is like her sense
00:27:38
of wonderment at all. Like I can't believe people.
00:27:41
We're actually able to get up in the air like that and it's like
00:27:45
Yeah, I love Stormont response. He's like just like you just
00:27:48
like you haven't even met me. Like course I course I could
00:27:51
fly. It was like this dude, man.
00:27:54
This dude, I am actually at this point, we don't really know who
00:28:00
he is, but before we get to that part, so when they're in the
00:28:07
fold Elena tries to get rid of the fold, she uses her powers
00:28:15
and it looks like it's working for a moment.
00:28:18
But what happens is? She starts having a flashback of
00:28:20
what happened on the on the skiff with Kerrigan?
00:28:24
When Took control of her powers and I don't know if she actually
00:28:28
wasn't strong enough or if it was just a mental thing.
00:28:32
Because now at this point Kerrigan is in her head or she
00:28:36
feels like here again is in her head and all she's remembering
00:28:40
is when he was taking over her power.
00:28:44
The last time she was trying to get rid of the fold and now she
00:28:49
can't do it. She passes out the volcker.
00:28:51
Come You have the twins. You I mean, you have the twins,
00:28:57
you have Stern behind, you have them all, fighting for the
00:29:00
volcker, I'm fighting the vulgar while they're trying to get out
00:29:03
of the fold safely and they end up crash landing.
00:29:07
So they crash land. Luckily everybody is okay.
00:29:10
Everybody survives and the RAF can army is coming up to the
00:29:15
skiff because now they illegally entered rafta.
00:29:20
So Stern Han is basically like I'll take care of this and he
00:29:26
starts taking his stuff off. And when he takes his jacket
00:29:30
off, he has on the uniform of the first Army and we find out
00:29:35
that Sturm Han is actually Nikolai Lance off the Second Son
00:29:41
of the king of rafter. He's the prince And I remember
00:29:46
reading this, reveal in the book because in the book is a little
00:29:51
bit different Sturm hunt in the book is kind of kind of
00:29:57
disfigured in the face so you really can't recognize who he
00:30:01
is. So it's like if anybody is
00:30:03
familiar with who the prince is, which you would assume that
00:30:07
people would know what their prints looks like, right?
00:30:10
So if that's the case. Yeah.
00:30:13
Now I always look for the most part, you would assume that
00:30:16
people will uncut know who their first family's.
00:30:20
Nothing. That's a second with.
00:30:21
The second one, they might do with the first one.
00:30:23
Looks like another segment because you think about it, I
00:30:27
mean, this is neither here nor there but the time period there
00:30:29
in, it's not like they got television, you know, their
00:30:33
preachers of drawings. So your average common person,
00:30:37
probably didn't really know. It was special, you don't ever
00:30:40
go to the capital and that coming around?
00:30:43
Yeah. I don't know what they look
00:30:44
like, especially, you know, the minor ones like him.
00:30:50
I'm just saying it's it's hard to assume then the wheels like,
00:30:55
yeah. Because I even which Macaulay,
00:30:57
even the, the journal was like, wait, that's you, you know, he
00:31:01
also hasn't been seen in several years, right?
00:31:05
According to them. So, but yeah, in the book he is
00:31:08
kind of disfigured. And then when they make the
00:31:13
reveal, Bill. I think what he does is he takes
00:31:16
his, I guess it's kind of like a face mask or something.
00:31:20
That's making him look extremely different, because when he takes
00:31:24
it off, he looks like a completely different person.
00:31:27
So it's not like just Elena and Mal finding out.
00:31:31
Oh, this guy is the prince, like in the book.
00:31:34
He look like a totally different person, but, you know, we find
00:31:39
out to say, he's the Prince. When Nikolai is, like, nobody
00:31:42
recognizes him is like Like Kaz Kaz and just for didn't
00:31:45
recognize him even when he gave him the strong, the strong
00:31:48
profile, and it's like the his own General didn't recognize
00:31:52
them as like as it does. You would think to do it would
00:31:54
do, it would be terrible that to his ego.
00:31:57
But no, it's still intact. Like I'm still exactly where it
00:32:00
was when he because I think for him just like he was telling
00:32:05
Elena when they were on the horses headed for his Sanctuary.
00:32:11
It in a way, it makes it easier. Her for him to do the things
00:32:15
that he did, you know? Like, he totally and he was
00:32:17
like, look, this makes it easy for me to help the people that I
00:32:21
love. And when she looks at him, he
00:32:23
doesn't say his family. He says, my people, the people
00:32:27
in my war-torn ravished country. So he really is the Royal who
00:32:33
cares about his people, who cares about his country and is
00:32:36
really trying to do when needs to be done to save them.
00:32:39
And that is one of the reasons why he was trying to get to
00:32:42
Alima the sun Summoner. He even admits to her that, you
00:32:45
know, he was the one who hired Chasm the crows to try to
00:32:48
capture her in the first season. So the difference with Nikolai
00:32:54
and the rest of his family you know we learned in the first
00:32:59
season, his family is not really they're not really friendly
00:33:04
towards Grisha like they are because they're the Royals and
00:33:08
they have to put on that far that that face but they don't
00:33:12
really like the Grisha. And what Nikolai finds out is
00:33:15
that his brother Vasily is actually using the first Army to
00:33:21
hunt down Grisha. And they are all.
00:33:27
The royal family is starting to take shelter in the spinning
00:33:30
wheel which is where Nikolai has his labs and that's where he
00:33:34
creates his, you know, his little hummingbirds and all the
00:33:38
other things that he creates bad.
00:33:40
See tells his General he was like oh well if they're heading
00:33:43
there they're not going to like the fact that I gave that to the
00:33:47
Grisha as a sanctuary. So they actually are headed
00:33:51
there to kind of you know head the royal family.
00:33:54
Also that there's not an immediate blood bath or
00:33:57
whatever. The case may be once they get
00:33:58
there through immediate reaction to finding out, you just don't
00:34:01
really Keen. Oh yeah, you mother crack.
00:34:06
You bastard was actually what she said, which is very funny.
00:34:10
I'll explain why in a future episode, but yeah, she punches
00:34:15
him and what, what is it? He says my jaw is in good shape.
00:34:19
Great, thank you for asking. She was like, you can just tell
00:34:21
people that you were punched by invoke ra.
00:34:27
Yeah, she looks. She was a little upset
00:34:30
understandably. So, but like he said to her, he
00:34:32
was like, look, I I had my identity to protect the people
00:34:36
that I care about. I'm sure you understand when he
00:34:38
says that she turns around and she licks it mouth, he's she was
00:34:41
like, okay, okay, I can understand the whole hiding to
00:34:44
protect. Yeah, okay I got it but um Yeah,
00:34:49
so they get to the spinning wheel and the first person who
00:34:51
comes out is a recast Nadia which threw me off just a little
00:34:56
bit but I will say this. Yeah.
00:34:59
I like the new actress a lot in the road she really does.
00:35:04
I think keep the keep the same energy that the previous actress
00:35:09
did with Nadia. I like her.
00:35:11
We get to see Nadia's brother. I know Mike was happy and
00:35:16
Anthony was happy. He's loyal.
00:35:18
You do is very bad. Hey girl, Zoya is back.
00:35:24
She is there because her family know what could be risk did not
00:35:29
survive the extension of the fold.
00:35:32
So now she is come to, you know, offer her allyship to Alina
00:35:37
which I will say this. I'm not sure how it's going to
00:35:41
play out, but I like it so far because in the books, even when
00:35:45
they have met back up together, they're still this kind of Like
00:35:49
tug and pull as far as Zoya still kind of being not cordial
00:35:56
to Elena and in this exchange when we see them you do see that
00:36:02
there's still a little bit of that there, but zoya's demeanor
00:36:06
is completely different, you know.
00:36:08
And she offers Alina advice you know, when the lien is like is
00:36:12
this an apologist? She was like, you don't need
00:36:14
hallowed apologies, you need an ally and that's what I'm
00:36:17
offering to you. She was like, you're going to
00:36:20
have to be able to defeat that I you're going to have to be able
00:36:24
to do this. The you know, when Elena
00:36:27
apologizes about her family she was like why you had nothing to
00:36:31
do with that. That was Kerrigan.
00:36:34
He was controlling you and he was making you feel like you
00:36:37
needed him for such. You don't need that.
00:36:39
You're the sun Summoner. Basically, like you're going to
00:36:43
have to claim this power, you're going to have to claim you, no
00:36:47
control over your narrative and I'm going to be here to help you
00:36:50
do that. I was like, okay I can I can get
00:36:53
with this you know it's not the oh I'm jealous of you.
00:36:57
So I'm going to be your, you know, I'm gonna always be
00:37:01
sitting there pushing at you and and give me your heart.
00:37:04
No, we don't have to like each other but I'm here to be your
00:37:07
ally, I'm here to help you. Okay.
00:37:12
I can like I can get with this version of Zoya.
00:37:16
Yeah. But I like Zoe but I don't I
00:37:18
don't know if I trust you yet. I'm going to see a little bit
00:37:24
more from her. You know what?
00:37:28
I would have thought the same and I did think the same in the
00:37:30
book, I will say that because in the book I was like, I don't
00:37:34
know. But the fact that the the
00:37:38
darkling extended, the fold killed, your family knew that
00:37:44
you had family in that City and still put you on that skiff
00:37:47
anyway, in a position of command and you had a very first World
00:37:56
experience to sing that city destroyed.
00:38:01
II. Don't question it, she's pissed
00:38:05
and she has every right to be right.
00:38:09
So I'm here for it, I has oil in a team up.
00:38:13
Yes, Simon is like I'm here. Those two two really strong
00:38:19
strong-willed. Women who don't take shit from
00:38:20
anybody and it's like them together is definitely a plus.
00:38:25
I think that it's like the way that they are the how strong
00:38:29
they are mentally and Is can do nothing but, like, improve.
00:38:34
This show is like, I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't mind seeing
00:38:36
more them together. I would love one mind seeing
00:38:38
like the three her Zoya and Nina, like only an azalea Nina
00:38:43
more as a trio where they're just like really strong-willed
00:38:47
like barely get it done, it's like girls.
00:38:56
Doesn't have to be dropped off a cliff to keep story going to
00:39:01
soon. My bad.
00:39:02
This is true. This is not too soon but yeah.
00:39:09
So Nikolai is obviously going to be a big help.
00:39:17
So that, you know, to Elena's fight going forward.
00:39:20
Because at this point, they do realize that Kerrigan has
00:39:26
survived or at least that they assume it because of the reports
00:39:31
that they're getting about Greece's being freed from
00:39:34
enslavement camps, 1st Army Camps, being decimated people
00:39:39
being cut in half when Nikolai said that Elena was kind of
00:39:43
like, I already know what this is, and I know we thought he was
00:39:49
dead, but it has to be him because like she said, nobody
00:39:52
else can do the cut. She's like bag or, but this is
00:39:54
Kerrigan because she doesn't think back when would would do
00:39:58
something like that. She wasn't. but um, you know,
00:40:05
it's interesting because at this point Nikolai makes a suggestion
00:40:13
or as he says, I have a proposal to make.
00:40:16
So you're going to need some allies because again as he tells
00:40:20
her yes he was the one that sent Kaz and the crows after her.
00:40:25
So really nobody was looking for her on that front but the feared
00:40:30
and Bounty is very much real and They are offering money for her
00:40:36
capture and in his eyes, he says, okay, I can offer you.
00:40:41
The land soft name that will let anybody know that we are in
00:40:46
Alliance with the Grisha that we are protecting the Grisha and it
00:40:51
will give us a more unified front between Grisha and I
00:40:55
cannot pronounce what they call the regular people.
00:40:58
Okay? I'm not even going to try it,
00:41:01
the regular folk, okay, and so, Mal is like, Huh.
00:41:10
So what do you mean by your name and Alina things actions like.
00:41:13
So this is like a proposal proposal, not just the strategy
00:41:17
proposed. And I mean, at least Nikolai,
00:41:22
she was like, look, I know what you two mean to each other?
00:41:25
This is, I'm not proposing a love match.
00:41:27
We may not even make it to marriage, but at least an
00:41:30
engagement will give us some time to let everyone know.
00:41:33
Hey, we are. We are together.
00:41:37
We are And to unify our people and then he leads them to talk
00:41:41
about it. Now after this conversation, I
00:41:44
was still sitting here like I don't understand why people hate
00:41:50
Mao so much, especially when it comes to Elena.
00:41:53
Because literally this man just in front of you at least Nikolai
00:41:57
didn't you know he didn't do this with Alina and push me out
00:42:01
to the side and and discuss this with Elena.
00:42:03
He was like, no I'm going to tell both of you because I know
00:42:06
what you mean to each other. This is what I'm proposing.
00:42:10
Yes, this is going to be a this is going to be an engagement.
00:42:13
This is going to be a marriage. Y'all figured y'all talk it out.
00:42:18
And now literally sits there and tells her this is your decision,
00:42:24
I will support whatever you decide to do.
00:42:27
If this is what's going to protect you, if it's what's
00:42:30
going to save the Grisha, if it's what's going to help my
00:42:34
friends who are in the 1st Army, Who had, who are only following
00:42:37
orders. You know, the people who have
00:42:40
fought next to me. If this is how we unify and how
00:42:45
we save people, then we can do Do this.
00:42:48
If I have to sit to the side and watch this how okay, whatever,
00:42:51
whatever is going to keep everybody, safe.
00:42:53
Whatever is going to help this cause whatever is going to help
00:42:56
you. Do what you need to do, he was
00:42:58
like, you're living Saint. There's not much.
00:43:00
I can offer you in the way of protection, but this can help.
00:43:04
Granted, yes, she did. Say, you know, I'm not some
00:43:07
Pawn. He was like, yeah, I get that.
00:43:10
I'm surprised you didn't break his nose when he proposed it but
00:43:15
this is your decision. I got your back, whatever you
00:43:18
do. I still don't understand why
00:43:19
people can't stand me out with her.
00:43:21
Like this is literally a dude who is saying you have agency,
00:43:26
this is your decision. But whatever you decide whether
00:43:29
or not, I like it or not. I'm going to support you.
00:43:32
They probably just think he's a symptom.
00:43:33
He's just like Going to be my whatever, whatever you I'll do,
00:43:37
whatever you whatever you say. I don't like it, but you're you.
00:43:41
And I'm me. So I'll just go along with it
00:43:43
now. Da.
00:43:44
And I'm like, I don't necessarily think he's a Sim.
00:43:47
I just, I gotta be honest. I'm just, he just irks me for
00:43:53
some reason and it's not and it's not because he's a simple.
00:43:56
It's just because he, I feel like a lot of times he's just a
00:44:01
device, he dead that a writer uses because you guys, Beat up
00:44:05
all the time then he finds you didn't get speed up again.
00:44:07
Then he finds you then it's like he's always like that person
00:44:11
that kind of like is always like coming back battered better, but
00:44:16
Brave and he saves the day and Alina gives him that old Story
00:44:21
look in their eyes and it's like, Either, but I but I but
00:44:25
what's the alternative you have a, you have a good-looking
00:44:29
tough, powerful person who takes away a woman's agency, who
00:44:35
controls her who only wants to be with her because of what she
00:44:39
can provide for him. I mean I mean I get that I'm not
00:44:46
something to saying that he liked again.
00:44:48
I'm not saying he's a simple, I'm just saying that.
00:44:51
That's what people see when they see how he acts around her.
00:44:54
And it's like, that's not really fair because before they before
00:44:58
he even really have feelings for, they were, they were afraid
00:45:00
they were tight as thieves. It's like they were, there were
00:45:03
literally there for each other at every turn when someone when
00:45:06
one of them needed something, the other one had it and vice
00:45:08
versa. This is before she was even a
00:45:10
son someone or so, this is like a deeper level of friendship
00:45:13
than people really imagine. I think that people just see
00:45:17
that as same as being a symbol. I just see it as the level of
00:45:20
friendship that they've cultivated from knowing each
00:45:23
other basically all there, A lot, if all of their all of
00:45:26
their mental knowing lives, they've known each other and
00:45:29
they're, I mean, that's what, that's what this relationship
00:45:33
is. And people just don't really get
00:45:35
it. And I guess that's the thing
00:45:38
that bothers me, because before there was even a romantic
00:45:42
relationship, they were best friends.
00:45:45
Right? And people were mad because they
00:45:47
were like, one of the best teams.
00:45:49
Like she was there the whole time and you, it took you
00:45:53
forever to realize that You love turn, blah, blah, blah, blah,
00:45:56
blah. Like you, I don't know, it's
00:46:00
just one of those things where I feel like him as a character.
00:46:03
He can't please people because first, y'all are mad because he
00:46:06
wasn't looking at her in a romantic way.
00:46:09
And now that he is, y'all are mad because he didn't do it soon
00:46:12
enough or because you feel like it's taken away from her story.
00:46:15
Or, I don't know, I just it just bothers me because like Mal is
00:46:20
one of those characters who People don't really write
00:46:25
characters like him, you know, when it comes to a male
00:46:28
character, with a female character, who are best friends
00:46:32
who do fall in love, and he allows her to be her own person
00:46:37
without invoking his own me. Like, he doesn't, he doesn't
00:46:44
have to be He doesn't have to validate her.
00:46:50
You get what I'm saying? Yeah, like she doesn't need him
00:46:54
to be validated. She doesn't mean him to be
00:46:55
powerful and I think that's one of the things about Lena's
00:46:59
journey and the second season is because for so much of the first
00:47:02
season Kerrigan gas-lit her, you know, to the point where he was
00:47:08
like, yeah you know we can't do we have to do this together?
00:47:12
Basically making her feel like it had to be the two of them
00:47:16
against the world in order to take care of them. fold in order
00:47:18
to you know, banish the fold in order to reunite Raska and she
00:47:23
still kind of in that mindset where Everything that he is told
00:47:29
her is still there to the point where she couldn't even do what
00:47:32
she needed to do in the fold. I think if she hadn't have had
00:47:35
that flashback, she probably could have destroyed the folder
00:47:39
at least part of it enough for her to feel confident in
00:47:43
herself. But now, she's kind of like, I
00:47:45
can't do it. I'm not strong enough.
00:47:49
And I I just don't know. I just don't see the problem
00:47:52
with. Having someone say you can do
00:47:56
this on your own. You don't need me.
00:47:58
You don't need anyone else. You can do this.
00:48:01
I have faith in you. I know you can do it.
00:48:04
I don't understand what the problem is.
00:48:06
No, it's not a problem. It's just it's just how people
00:48:09
see relationships these days. It's like they figured that if
00:48:12
there's a man and a woman there has to be a romantic thing
00:48:14
between them and it really doesn't just like they're their
00:48:17
friends just like you didn't need Need the romantic thing was
00:48:21
totally optional between the two of them because they already had
00:48:24
a stronger Bond Than Physical love physical.
00:48:27
Attraction is like they were they like I said they were they
00:48:30
literally have a bond that they've cultivated through
00:48:35
knowing each other most of their lives.
00:48:37
So it's like they didn't they don't need that kind of
00:48:40
relationship is like because they already have a strong
00:48:42
relationship. Yeah, I don't know II.
00:48:47
Guess I do. Like the fact though that nick
00:48:49
nickel I showed him that respect, you know, to be like,
00:48:53
hey, okay so this is my plan and I'm telling both of you at the
00:48:56
same time as opposed to going and telling the Lena and then
00:48:59
leaving it for Elena to go. Tell now you know at least he
00:49:04
had but I mean it's like you hear the one who want to risk
00:49:06
pissing Alina off, he knew he knows that he's not dumb.
00:49:09
He sees how Alina and mouth feel about each other.
00:49:12
He's not going to risk. Ask a leading Alina by talking
00:49:15
shit about by talking more shit about Mal.
00:49:20
Like, you know, he's already kind of dismissed him a couple
00:49:22
times but he's actually come around and is actually giving
00:49:25
him, more of more respect now than he was when he first got on
00:49:30
his ship. So he's come around and knows
00:49:32
that wherever and Lena goes now go.
00:49:34
So that's not I mean that's not a big problem, it's like fine.
00:49:38
Okay, cool, I'll give him the respect because she she he
00:49:41
obviously has her respect, so I'm going to give him respect.
00:49:44
So it has to be something there. Yeah.
00:49:48
But we'll see what they're going to do.
00:49:52
But I mean, at least Alina is aware now that you're getting is
00:49:55
alive. And as we see with Kerrigan,
00:49:58
he's back. And I believe, I do believe that
00:50:00
house is the old house that they were in last season.
00:50:06
When we, when we looked at the darklings backstory, I believe
00:50:10
that maybe the same house, it does look a bit worn down or it
00:50:14
may just be another safe house that they had.
00:50:16
Bad. But so what they're doing is
00:50:20
again, they mentioned that Grisha who were being found are
00:50:23
being brought their genja is outside.
00:50:27
While new grease are coming in and she happens to see David.
00:50:32
So David is safe and she goes up to him.
00:50:34
And she was like, you have to leave, you have to go before he
00:50:38
sees you. It isn't safe here.
00:50:40
He's got these. He's got these shadow monsters
00:50:42
and David grabs her and he was like sure because the darkling
00:50:46
Was coming up behind them. So of course.
00:50:49
Now he seemed David he's telling David a little bit about the
00:50:54
ninja. Yeah nature boys and, you know,
00:51:01
just telling him about the symptoms that he's having when
00:51:05
they come out and he wants David to figure it out and see how he
00:51:10
can help him and he gives him orders over his journal.
00:51:12
So, of course, David is in there.
00:51:16
He's trying to figure this thing out.
00:51:18
I think the other guys have been them, he's the other der ass
00:51:24
that was working with Kerrigan while David was gone, but they,
00:51:29
they're both working in the same room where bagra is being kept
00:51:33
hostage and Kerrigan. At some point realizes that he,
00:51:40
you know, they're going to have to go look for For the firebird
00:51:43
or meaning Alina and my Lord Elena is going to have to look
00:51:46
for the firebird because he gets a report about there, being a
00:51:49
light show in the fold. So he's like, oh okay.
00:51:52
So Elena has the second and she does have the second amplifier.
00:51:58
She tried to destroy the fold. She can't do it by herself.
00:52:01
So what is she going to do if she's not going to come to me?
00:52:03
Oh, she's gonna go look for the firebird.
00:52:05
So it goes a bad girl to try to get information from bag.
00:52:08
We're about to fire bird and bagra is like she's not here for
00:52:12
you. She is not is not, she keeps,
00:52:18
she keeps berating him, she keeps being condescending to
00:52:22
him, You Stupid Boy. You know, you could have had her
00:52:26
love if you weren't trying to control her and, you know, it's
00:52:30
like, I really fucked up raising you, right?
00:52:33
That was going to say, that's the interesting thing, because
00:52:35
when he goes in to talk to her, he was like, you know, at one
00:52:39
point you and I were on the same page.
00:52:42
We We wanted to create a better world for the Grisha.
00:52:44
You taught me everything you knew.
00:52:47
And what she said to him was, I taught you the best way that I
00:52:51
knew how, but he also made the, the statement he was like what
00:52:56
happened to the woman who were burned down villages to save her
00:53:00
child and I was like, oh so yeah.
00:53:04
Bagra probably was not mother. Well I won't say she was she's
00:53:08
not mother of the year but because they're Grecian because
00:53:11
of the type of Grisha they are who can create these shadow
00:53:15
monsters or you know the Shad they control the Shadows.
00:53:19
They can both do the cut if people were coming after
00:53:25
Alexander as a kid. I imagine that bag will was
00:53:29
probably like you know, Molly Weasley.
00:53:33
Not my son you bitch and she probably did Kill Some people
00:53:36
trying to protect her child and if that was the way he was
00:53:40
raised I can see why he might have some of the Issues.
00:53:47
He has, you know, she's like no. He said I learned everything
00:53:53
from you. Uh-huh.
00:53:56
Yeah, but you, all right, I learned it by watching you.
00:54:00
He's here to restart what happened?
00:54:02
He said you taught me. Everything you knew, or you
00:54:04
know, what did he say, everything at your knee or
00:54:07
something like that? Uh-huh.
00:54:08
And also the thing about what happened to the woman, who would
00:54:12
burn down villages, you told us that this was how we survive.
00:54:16
Dived and she said, something like my perspective has changed
00:54:20
over time. Yeah, meaning that whatever it
00:54:24
was that she was doing whether she was killing the, the regular
00:54:28
folk or killing people to save her child at some point.
00:54:31
She realized this is not the way, but it was too late for him
00:54:34
because he was already so deep into that.
00:54:37
And then, I mean, even even in the last season, when we saw
00:54:39
that flashback episode, you saw that there was an affection
00:54:44
between them. He still cared about his There.
00:54:47
But she was also telling him you can't do this.
00:54:50
You can't. You can't use more zoast.
00:54:52
You can't. You can't be this person because
00:54:56
it will corrupt. You, it'll make things different
00:54:59
and he went against that anyway. And I feel like that's probably
00:55:03
when that divide started happening.
00:55:05
Because maybe at that point, she had already started changing her
00:55:08
mind set about how they needed to move forward.
00:55:12
But just like she tells him, she was like hundreds of years and
00:55:16
You've literally put us back in the same place where we started.
00:55:20
They're hunting the Grisha. Again, they're killing us
00:55:24
indiscriminately. Just because we're Grisha and
00:55:28
that was the whole thing that you know, they were trying to
00:55:31
avoid but she refuses to tell him anything about the firebird
00:55:36
and he sits here he was like okay so you're not going to tell
00:55:41
me that's fine I only need one thing from you.
00:55:43
Anyway, he grabs a pair of scissors off of Davis desk, and
00:55:47
David is just sitting there. Looking like, what is he about
00:55:50
to do? He goes to the cage and grabs,
00:55:53
bagra pulls her hand out, and he cuts off her pinky finger, and
00:56:03
really because if you think about it, morozova, when he
00:56:07
created amplifiers, he he used what he used his bones, he used
00:56:11
his finger bones, And when he tells via them, he was like he
00:56:16
was like, more is overused bought his bones to create a
00:56:19
fires do something with this and he throws the pinky into a dish
00:56:23
on the table. There damages looking at it like
00:56:26
okay, whatever Dave if you look at his expression David was like
00:56:31
this is not what the fuck I signed up for.
00:56:35
No, he would go using your we gotta go.
00:56:37
Now he goes. The genius room.
00:56:40
He was like he just cut off back off.
00:56:42
Finger. We have to go.
00:56:44
I think that's the most animated.
00:56:45
I've seen David, because he was like, yeah, no, we have to go.
00:56:50
We can't stay. We can't stay here for this.
00:56:52
And Jenny has like, we have to warn Alina out because he tells
00:56:56
her, he was like, oh also Elena is alive because she tried to
00:57:00
destroy the fold and some people saw her and Jamie was like, we
00:57:03
have to go find her and we have to go warn her about the, his
00:57:07
shadow monsters. And David was like what we did
00:57:10
to her was Unforgivable. Well, she was like, but we have
00:57:14
to go warn her, at least. If, if we don't try, then we
00:57:18
will feel worse. It'll be worse.
00:57:20
So at least, she's like, okay, but we gotta go find her, you go
00:57:23
to the ruins, there's some ruins over here.
00:57:25
I will find you and we'll Escape.
00:57:29
No, I think, I don't remember if it was Anthony, or if it was
00:57:33
Mike, somebody sent me something in a chat and they was like, why
00:57:36
did you think she was just going to be able to get up and leave?
00:57:40
Like he wasn't paying attention to her and, and okay, you leave
00:57:47
when he sleep. Okay.
00:57:48
Is obviously she doesn't have sneaking out the castle
00:57:51
training. I'm just saying it was either
00:57:54
one of these. Especially her, because she's
00:58:02
the one that said, he specifically said he's keeping
00:58:06
her close by because he needs her powers to help him heal.
00:58:11
I'll just created the scratch marks on him.
00:58:12
So he needs her more than probably anyone else around
00:58:16
there. So he, of course, he's going to
00:58:18
be like, where the fuck is she right felt so bad.
00:58:22
I mean, her face, just her face, and then you just hear the
00:58:26
screams and I was like, Oh God, because she tried to, she tried
00:58:30
to shoot him. Yeah.
00:58:32
And the needs of oil was there and I was just like, you know,
00:58:37
when he found her, you know, she's telling David to run and
00:58:42
David is sitting there hiding and I know there's going to be
00:58:44
people who talk about this whenever what happens in the
00:58:47
next episode happens. Because when she was sitting
00:58:51
there trying to Distract the darkling and when she was being
00:58:56
attacked, David didn't do anything but I'm like what
00:59:00
should he's gonna do it? He can't do anything, he will
00:59:05
get the flashlight. Yeah, he's definitely not a
00:59:10
fighter. You know, day.
00:59:12
And and David is one of those people where the way that he
00:59:17
walks the way that he reacts and when he looks at things, he
00:59:21
looks like he's scared of his own shadow.
00:59:22
Shadow and I know, part of that probably has to do with whatever
00:59:26
happened. The weeks they were on the road,
00:59:29
you know, trying to survive trying to hide from 1st Army,
00:59:34
whatever. Again he's not a fighter, he is
00:59:37
there for his analytical mind. That's what makes him valuable
00:59:41
to the darkling. So what would have happened if
00:59:45
he had gotten caught, he wouldn't have been able to help
00:59:49
jenya. He wouldn't be able to warn a
00:59:52
Lina, maybe he won't be able to do anything.
00:59:56
But I just want to feel bad because, you know, he's probably
00:59:59
going to feel some kind of guilt over whatever happens to jigna.
01:00:03
We know, she's not dead because later on in the episode Kerrigan
01:00:09
tells I can't remember I can't remember the girl's name, the
01:00:13
second-in-command, the type, the type maker But you know, he says
01:00:19
when she when she wakes up, we're going to show her to
01:00:22
everyone else so they can see what happens when you're
01:00:25
disloyal. I was like, I'm just waiting to
01:00:29
see what that looks like. Because in the books supposedly
01:00:34
like they disfigured genya to the point where she was
01:00:38
unrecognizable. So I'm like, oh, how are they
01:00:43
going to do this in the show? We're going.
01:00:46
To see that next episode, I think it'll be I be ironic if
01:00:50
they make her face look like a jigsaw like jigsaw better face
01:00:53
the jigsaw. They're gonna have to, I don't
01:00:59
know, they're going to have to do something but yeah, so she
01:01:04
doesn't make it out David. We see he runs because cure
01:01:08
again, sends his Niche, avoids. Oh, you know to him, go find our
01:01:13
mr. Costume Davis like nope.
01:01:17
No, I'm getting the fuck on. So hopefully he has escaped
01:01:22
hopefully they didn't catch him. But what we do find out, Is that
01:01:27
when he ran, he took more has over his journal with him.
01:01:34
I was like, yeah, Kerrigan was a little bit pissed off about
01:01:37
that, he's a lot. He was a lot, I have beef.
01:01:43
Okay, so, when they're around towards the ruins, she/he David
01:01:47
sees, sees jinyoung a genius, he's like, he's like, come on,
01:01:50
come on, she runs out in the middle of the fucking path
01:01:55
visible to Bye-bye machine, even give yourself a chance to get
01:01:59
somewhere where she could hide. I'm like You just want me nest
01:02:04
for her to hide unless she had gotten a little bit further up
01:02:07
to, where David was and Kerrigan was on a horse.
01:02:10
So she would not have been able to make that.
01:02:13
Yeah, I just it just kind of irritated be like he came right
01:02:18
out of the right out of the grass and Tall Grass.
01:02:20
It was like yo what you doing? I was like oh God, I'm surprised
01:02:25
he didn't see David right there because he was like standing out
01:02:28
be like come on, come on, come on then.
01:02:31
It's like so Has he came out of Grassroots, like, oh shit, try
01:02:33
to hide them. Like, I think the angle of the
01:02:35
wall was probably a little bit different because here against
01:02:41
voice carried before you actually saw him come around the
01:02:45
corner because he was like, genius stand before me.
01:02:49
You know, what is the meaning of this?
01:02:51
And when she says to him, she was, he was like, you know I
01:02:55
saved you from near death and this is how you repay me.
01:02:59
And what she said to him was I should be your biggest shame.
01:03:04
Just let me go. And you know, it's so
01:03:07
interesting because later on he was like, you know, I really had
01:03:12
an affinity for her and I was like, dude, someone needs to
01:03:17
teach you that the ones that you think are like the ways you
01:03:22
think about women, how affectionate you are towards
01:03:25
them or how much you care about them.
01:03:27
The ways that you display that don't mat like suck something
01:03:33
about giving a twelve-year-old. Tuvok the king for his sexual
01:03:38
pleasure, that does not show an affinity towards a person.
01:03:43
You sitting here being all heartbroken and everything about
01:03:47
your little saints. Not loving you back.
01:03:50
The way you want her to love you because you try controlling her
01:03:55
and you like somebody needs to teach him that his words and his
01:04:00
actions don't match. I don't know, but I mean, what
01:04:09
up, what Jen you said to him, that should have bothered him.
01:04:12
I feel like if you really have an affinity for this person, the
01:04:15
fact that she's telling you, I should be your biggest shame.
01:04:19
Something about that should have bothered you, but you were, you
01:04:23
were more upset about the fact that she tried to abandon you.
01:04:28
All she wanted to do was just let me go.
01:04:31
Just let me go. You already see?
01:04:33
I can't heal you. I can't do anything for you.
01:04:38
Just let me go. He can't.
01:04:40
Because she's Grisha. I'll grease of belonging to him
01:04:45
again, the Hope. Yeah, I know.
01:04:51
It's as simple as that. If you everything he does, is to
01:04:54
protect the Greaser, everything he does is to make sure they're
01:04:57
Okay. All right safe from the whatever
01:05:02
regular people. Yeah but the other thing with
01:05:06
with that is you know once he has his little temper tantrum
01:05:09
about the journal being gone, he takes a look at his hand in that
01:05:13
little that little piece of the Stags antler and he kind of sits
01:05:18
there. He closes his eyes and he goes
01:05:20
into that space where he and Elena can actually see each
01:05:25
other. And I said, did I not say?
01:05:27
Just in the last episode where I was like, I hope he doesn't use
01:05:30
that knowledge to be like all creepy and watch her while she
01:05:33
sleeps and that's literally what happens.
01:05:36
He appears in her bedroom even though again?
01:05:40
I don't know if he think if he realizes that, this is actually
01:05:43
what he's saying or if this is just a figment of his
01:05:46
imagination but she's asleep. He goes over to her in the bed
01:05:51
and he's just kind of like talking to her sleeping form
01:05:54
about. Oh okay so you got the firebird.
01:05:57
I mean you got you got the o.c. whip.
01:06:00
You tried to destroy the follow. You can't do this without me.
01:06:03
That's okay. I'm gonna sit here.
01:06:04
I'm going to be patient, I'm awake for you and he takes his,
01:06:07
you know, he licks his finger and he puts out the candle next
01:06:11
to her bed and then she wakes up and she doesn't notice anything
01:06:16
is amiss, but that's when she wakes up and she goes to
01:06:19
nikolai's, Room, and she tells him that she's made decision.
01:06:22
Now, that's where the episode cut off.
01:06:24
So I know that she's probably told him, okay?
01:06:26
Yes, I'll accept your proposal so that's going to be a whole
01:06:29
interesting thing, but This whole thing with the darkling
01:06:36
and this connection with them is going to be a problem.
01:06:40
It's gonna be a surprise. Come specially, what she
01:06:43
realizes? That this is actually.
01:06:45
Like she still doesn't know for sure.
01:06:48
Well, okay, let me not say that. She knows that he is alive.
01:06:52
Just because of the rumors that she's heard about what's been
01:06:55
happening with the Grisha camps in the 1st Army Camps.
01:07:00
But I think it's one thing to think that, but once she's
01:07:04
confronted with the reality, whether that is she actually
01:07:07
comes face-to-face with him or she realizes that these Vision.
01:07:13
She's having of him is real, that's gonna I don't know how
01:07:18
she's going to take that, you know, because it's already bad
01:07:22
enough that he's in her thoughts to the point where she can't do
01:07:25
what she needed to do to get rid of the fold but now this person
01:07:30
Is actually physically alive and and has a real physical
01:07:35
connection, you know, and he was even trying to get David to
01:07:38
figure that out and they was like, well, the bridge I built
01:07:41
between you two that has never been, has never been done
01:07:44
before. So I don't know what kind of
01:07:47
residual effects it could have. Even though you have a piece of
01:07:50
the, the bone in you still, we don't know what what can happen.
01:07:56
But you know, Dave is gone now. So he's not going to be able to
01:07:58
figure that out anyway, right? But the other thing going back
01:08:06
to the crows. Passes Jasper and wildin to
01:08:13
Apple Brook, which is another town because supposedly Packer
01:08:17
Rollins has a glass factory there.
01:08:21
And Kaz knows that this can't be the case because there's no sand
01:08:24
pits in that area. So when Jesper and Weiland get
01:08:28
there they realize it's like a country estate.
01:08:31
And of course they have to go in to see what the guards are
01:08:35
guarding. And that's when they find out
01:08:36
that Pekka Rollins has a son young son.
01:08:39
Looks like he might be about seven six or seven, who out of
01:08:44
here. That look, it was his trouble.
01:08:52
I know this little motherfucker is gonna be an issue, hey, what,
01:08:58
but he wasn't an issue in the in the usual, it was so funny
01:09:02
because they get caught being in the house, first by Albie, which
01:09:06
is Pekka Rollins son, then by the Nanny and then the nanny
01:09:09
calls, I guess one of the guards and while in is quick on his
01:09:14
feet because Jasper Like he's about to shoot, I'm like, y'all
01:09:17
don't need a shootout in this house.
01:09:19
That's going to put everything. No, we don't need to do this.
01:09:22
So while in his like, he has all of his little tools just like
01:09:25
yeah. So we're here to fix the piano
01:09:28
because the piano very visibly has a key.
01:09:33
That's not working properly. So they go over to the piano.
01:09:37
They realize somebody has cut one of the wires and just for
01:09:40
looks at album. He was like did you cut this and
01:09:42
the nanny? She's so funny.
01:09:43
She was like kind of accusation the child and Jasper's look like
01:09:48
I know he's a child. That's why I'm asking him to
01:09:51
pay. This is like hey yeah, yeah
01:09:54
yeah. You guys can fix it right and
01:10:05
why we don't have the pieces. So while in those over to the
01:10:13
side, Jesper uses his dress powers and he repairs The Wire
01:10:20
and then the little boy he's like yeah, I think it works and
01:10:25
I'll be goes over. This is the computer.
01:10:27
He was like, let me try, he just starts.
01:10:29
Just banging. I was like, if this kid is taken
01:10:31
a lesson in his life, you can't tell it.
01:10:35
He did just like nothing. He actually, I think, I think he
01:10:39
kind of, kind of hear the E flat, minor chord.
01:10:42
And one of those little poundings, it's like it kind of
01:10:45
sounded like, Jill Scott. Like you liked it.
01:10:47
No, no, he did. Not don't even lie.
01:10:50
No. And then while they're trying to
01:11:05
do something like this, and he plays a little piece on the
01:11:08
piano, which Jack Wolf, the guy who actually, who plays violin,
01:11:14
he actually did compose that little piece.
01:11:16
They asked him to, you know, compose something for the show,
01:11:20
and that's what he did. So that was his little original
01:11:24
Diddy. And as he's playing it Jesper is
01:11:27
falling in love. You can just tell he's just
01:11:29
looking at him laughs. Oh, shut up.
01:11:31
Anthony think don't you be rolling your eyes, whatever you
01:11:34
leave them alone. It was giving giving the little
01:11:37
bit of Last of Us episode 3, like, will Frank and build a
01:11:40
little bit. Yeah, yes, yes, give me the a
01:11:44
little bit yes, but that's okay. Jesper is like, hmm.
01:11:50
Okay, this is interesting and he finishes playing and he looks up
01:11:54
at Jasper. He's like, ho, okay.
01:11:56
I was like, okay, so this is the beginning of the, this is the
01:11:59
beginning of the beautiful stuff here, but yeah, so shut up man.
01:12:07
Let love rule great Lenny Kravitz once said, let love
01:12:10
rule, let them have that, right? But anyway, so like we said at
01:12:15
the beginning, you have cast who now knows that Pekka has a son,
01:12:22
I'm hoping has is not going to be as destructive.
01:12:25
Active as to punish this little boy for being Pekka Rollins,
01:12:28
son. But I have a feeling he's about
01:12:30
to figure and whatever plan that passed that Cass has against
01:12:35
Pekka. The only other thing that
01:12:39
happened in this episode is that Kaz told Nina about the fights
01:12:44
at Hell Gate. He was like look, there's what
01:12:47
all the guards there are under Pekka's, you know, payroll,
01:12:51
except for one or rather. There's one who is not as Loyal.
01:12:55
Because I have something on him that pack around that, he would
01:12:58
not want that, he would not pay. Why can I not get this out?
01:13:03
That he would not want pecker owners but no pick up.
01:13:07
Pick up, pick up, pick up. So Nina goes to Hill gate, to
01:13:15
try to talk to this, to this guard.
01:13:18
But there's some fights about to happen and before the fights
01:13:23
happened, when we see Mattias and Roommate.
01:13:25
They're cleaning out cells because they do these fights
01:13:29
where I think one person was fighting a bear.
01:13:32
Was that this episode? Yeah, I think somebody was
01:13:33
fighting a bear or something or and, you know, I'm gonna tie,
01:13:39
you see some wolves that are being locked up and he makes it
01:13:44
known. He was like, look, this is this
01:13:45
is not what jail would want. And then that's when the guy was
01:13:48
like oh hold up, your Drew skele.
01:13:50
Yeah, you might want to keep that to yourself buddy and right
01:13:54
at that time, but Guards are looking for somebody else to
01:13:56
fight. So of course they look at
01:13:58
Mattias is big-ass size and they're like, oh we're going to
01:14:00
put him in this so they put him in the ring to fight.
01:14:04
He's in the ring with a countable.
01:14:06
Now, we talked about this when we were talking about the last
01:14:09
of us and Mike, actually, Google like what happens to people who
01:14:15
are cannibals like if they if they and you know, ingest human
01:14:19
flesh for long enough? I think this guy is what happens
01:14:22
because his teeth were Sharp. Ears were unusually long.
01:14:26
He just looked a little animalistic.
01:14:29
Look right there. Look right at all.
01:14:33
So this is the person that they put Mattias in the cell with to
01:14:37
do this fight. And Nina happens to be walking
01:14:41
by and she realizes Mattias is in this cell.
01:14:45
Now, here's my question. Now you see Mattias is in the
01:14:48
cell. You see Pat Corrales has
01:14:50
actually in the audience, and that's what the guard tells her
01:14:54
when she finds. Some she was like, look I need I
01:14:56
need you to get a message to, you know, the fuhrer, and then
01:15:00
he was like, I can't do it now, they're about to fight.
01:15:03
Hecka Rollins is here, find me after the fight but she sees
01:15:07
that Mattias is in there fighting and she watches the
01:15:09
fight and eventually Mattias, he is the Victor in this fight and
01:15:15
when he's walking out, she tries to call his name and I think she
01:15:19
calls lat five or six times. And then the last time he hears
01:15:22
her, he turns and he looks at her And she smiles at him and
01:15:26
then he just walks off. So I was like, I don't know if
01:15:29
he saw her and thought that he was seeing things, or if he saw
01:15:34
her, and thought she was there to look at the bikes, like,
01:15:36
because he saw her, he sorry, I'm saying.
01:15:42
He's still in his mind thinks that she put them there on
01:15:45
purpose, but it's like this, they should he can do.
01:15:49
It's like, okay, he Caesars, like, oh, it's you.
01:15:52
What's he going to do? He can't go over there.
01:15:53
Give her a hug. He can't like, he can't go call
01:15:56
or he can't. He can't do shit in jail.
01:15:58
But that said, I still think there was something there.
01:16:10
They're so, I mean, he probably did have to add more than
01:16:14
anything. He probably had conflicting, he
01:16:17
probably had conflicting feelings.
01:16:18
But again, what was he gonna do? All of you.
01:16:22
He's going right back to his fucking sell.
01:16:24
Like, he just beat somebody up. He's going back to his life.
01:16:26
He can't go over there and be like, hey, how you doing, okay?
01:16:29
Are you can't go to be like, fuck you?
01:16:30
I don't want I want to talk to you.
01:16:32
It's like he can't do none of that.
01:16:33
He got to keep going or he's going to face consequences.
01:16:35
Gotta kick his ass right back to Hell Gate.
01:16:37
Do this? Get ugly.
01:16:40
Yeah. If yeah and unfortunately her
01:16:43
presence there has been noticed Now by Pekka Rollins.
01:16:47
I mean cast her at the beginning he was like what you did tonight
01:16:51
makes you a crow, you need to lay low so maybe love is not
01:16:56
notice it, if a heart Runners, just walking walking along a
01:17:00
cage lines, screaming out someone's name like what is my
01:17:04
highest, but highest what's highest, highest?
01:17:06
Highest, highest highest really? Do anything?
01:17:12
I mean you she was like pretty obvious about but she knew who
01:17:15
she was trying to get this getting their attention.
01:17:17
Like she will, I'll be I mean she's in the middle of a
01:17:20
screaming crowd so she probably thought nobody was paying
01:17:24
attention to her but I'm sure Pekka Rollins at some point
01:17:28
noticed her down there on the floor and was like oh let me go
01:17:32
handle this because again she just attacked him the night
01:17:35
before. Now here's people Rob Thicke
01:17:37
around question. Go ahead and pick this pig does
01:17:42
is, didn't get to where he was by not paying attention to
01:17:45
things that are out of the ordinary.
01:17:47
Oh yeah, I mean, he, he got to where he was by noticing, when
01:17:51
things are off, because when things are off bad shit happens
01:17:55
either someone tries to kill you or someone around, you gets
01:17:57
killed, you have to pay attention.
01:17:59
That's the reason that he got to where he is because he notices
01:18:03
anomalies and anomalies are bad. There's no such thing as a good
01:18:07
anomaly, as far as he's concerned, because that's
01:18:10
something, Can get him away from where he is.
01:18:12
So right, of course is going to notice.
01:18:14
It's like, that's just that's just him.
01:18:18
So I guess the question I have is Nina, if you are in there and
01:18:24
you see what's going on with your man.
01:18:28
Why not use some of your heart rending Powers at least at least
01:18:31
to do disable the cannibal a little bit because you guys move
01:18:36
her hands. She stands out too much.
01:18:39
And then people people, okay, people got money on that fight.
01:18:43
Well yeah, okay yeah well dear problem.
01:18:47
Yeah, right. They see they see her doing
01:18:49
daughter. A little Thing they carpet under
01:18:52
shit is like, ho hold the fuck up.
01:18:55
I got I got I got a thousand, whatever the fuck this shit you
01:18:59
over here doing your little Jutsu shitting on this my
01:19:02
enemies but we're not going to not going to interfere in their
01:19:05
fight. What does it matter now?
01:19:08
Because like I said I've seen her he finds her and he was like
01:19:13
yeah. So it's just Whoa to say a
01:19:17
heart-rending who knows a new Fighter by name and he was like
01:19:21
yeah. So I would I would have assumed
01:19:24
that you know, you might be one of those women who might want to
01:19:29
do something in order to keep her man out of Harm's Way and
01:19:35
she looks and she was like, what's your price?
01:19:37
And he was like you Brink as record of me or else.
01:19:39
I'll make sure that you're if you're earning his next fight is
01:19:44
his last. The death.
01:19:47
So Okay. Okay.
01:19:51
First of all, have you seen how big Mathias is?
01:19:55
And he's a trained fighter. I would have blue a while
01:19:58
because cock, why? Honestly, I'd be more concerned
01:20:00
about Mathias. Killing whoever they put her in
01:20:02
gives him. Well, you see avatars, the
01:20:04
cannibals was beating him up and he was just like yeah, yeah
01:20:08
whatever I'm sure she wasn't playing backwards.
01:20:12
It means be his big ass. Big bread would ask when was he
01:20:15
was like man. I ain't giant bat all this like
01:20:17
whatever. Yeah but you saw what he did
01:20:20
When he grabbed the guy he get down most people when they're
01:20:23
fighting for their lives, they're desperate, they fight,
01:20:26
you know, any type of way. Haymakers, whatever.
01:20:29
What about those do but they just broke his leg, okay?
01:20:32
That's very deliberate act and that's thought.
01:20:37
And that's hiring is not trying to be somebody's lunch.
01:20:40
Exactly. Yeah.
01:20:41
But it's acceptable. First you here seems like you
01:20:43
know what? This might be for.
01:20:45
This might be real. Like I think he was still
01:20:47
getting over the shock of being in there.
01:20:49
R-right. It was he kind of looked at it
01:20:51
was like, okay, this, my face shit.
01:20:54
Let me just put him down, right right.
01:20:56
Which is, which is the leg breaking?
01:20:58
Would you? Like I said, you know, so if
01:21:00
Pekka roles would have said that to me, I probably would have
01:21:03
been like, you know what? No, I'm gonna pass because I
01:21:07
wouldn't be concerned about this bill to defend himself but you
01:21:10
but I mean she doesn't know what else is going on in there.
01:21:13
Like okay, yeah, he got thrown in there too.
01:21:15
For that fight she doesn't know what type of what type of.
01:21:19
Of opponents. Are there?
01:21:21
This is a place called Hell Gate.
01:21:23
Yeah, yeah, arguably. It's probably holding the worst
01:21:27
of the worst and Mattias. We see ya Mattias it.
01:21:31
He was just skeleton. But even from when they were on
01:21:36
the boat and she was Shackled, he was still trying to protect
01:21:42
her. He was, he was making sure that
01:21:44
she had food. He was, you know, when the
01:21:47
people were upstairs being Rowdy, he came downstairs to
01:21:50
make sure that no one would come down there and mess with the
01:21:52
Grisha women. So he doesn't seem like he's
01:21:56
that type of person. Where He's going to be amongst
01:22:02
the worst of the worst, you know?
01:22:03
He's there simply because she was trying to save his life and
01:22:07
she told them he was a flavor saver.
01:22:15
Yeah. But He's not a violent person in
01:22:20
that sense, not that we've seen. She doesn't know what other type
01:22:23
of people are in there. What he will be put up against
01:22:26
the like we said, somebody was fighting a bear so who knows
01:22:31
what else they would have in there?
01:22:33
So I can kind of understand her being like, okay, I'll make this
01:22:36
deal. Just to make sure he's going to
01:22:39
be safe. But again, We got it, we have to
01:22:45
think that, I mean Nina used to work for the darkling she
01:22:48
probably knows that Peck is full of shit.
01:22:51
Hmm. But right now she doesn't have
01:22:53
any other choice because what else could they do?
01:22:55
He could have done something to her if she didn't agree to that.
01:22:59
Oh okay. Well you're not going to agree
01:23:00
to that. Okay, well let's do this, let's
01:23:02
do it. So I'm pretty sure that all that
01:23:05
a heart, a heart under is pretty pretty hard to take out.
01:23:09
Well right now, they have hurt they have her captive.
01:23:12
And they've got two people holding her arm so there's not
01:23:15
much she can do well, I mean she did kick that one guy in the
01:23:19
breadbasket. So I mean you know I'm saying is
01:23:22
she hurt her in this have two big weaknesses, they have to use
01:23:27
their hands all Grisha after using hands behind renders have
01:23:31
to have line of sight. Mr. Stroh just so yeah.
01:23:36
Those are those are two big weaknesses would go, right?
01:23:39
So I guess we'll see how that's going to play. now that she has
01:23:44
to bring Cass to Pekka, I don't know.
01:23:49
Okay, so I guess the only other thing we really need to talk
01:23:53
about is this fight between an edge and the taxidermist.
01:23:58
Because I mentioned it earlier. Yeah, it really was.
01:24:03
But like I said earlier in Nash, you see such a difference
01:24:10
between her from last season and this season last season, she
01:24:15
really didn't want to fight people because, you know,
01:24:18
especially if there was a chance that she would have to kill
01:24:21
somebody or hurt somebody because it was just kind of
01:24:24
against her faith. And now, I'm not saying that
01:24:27
that she's doing it. Willingly.
01:24:31
But after that last encounter, she was basically, like, I'm
01:24:35
going to have to finish him or else.
01:24:38
He's going to finish me or he's going to put me back in a
01:24:40
menagerie and she was like I'm not going back to that is
01:24:43
definitely much easier for I can stances.
01:24:47
So, is way easier for her to kill people now than it was
01:24:51
before. I don't know if I would say is
01:24:53
easier. I just think she was in a point
01:24:56
where she was like, okay, either, I get rid of him, or
01:25:01
he's going to put me back in the Menagerie, and she has said,
01:25:05
many times, she will not go back there.
01:25:09
She will not go back there. Especially if you think about
01:25:11
what Pekka Rollins said to Kaz about, oh yeah, I'm going to get
01:25:16
her and To put her back in the Menagerie and I'm gonna lock her
01:25:20
up in the cellar and know. And, and there's no telling what
01:25:25
kind of depravities he would subject her to simply because
01:25:30
she's a member of Casas crew. So you have to, I don't think it
01:25:35
was easy for her. I think it was more, so a
01:25:38
survival decision. Okay, I can either kill him
01:25:44
because I think if she had left him the way that She, you know,
01:25:48
when when she delivered that final kick and he impaled
01:25:50
himself on the antler, she kind of left him alive.
01:25:55
I think he would have still come after her.
01:25:57
And I think she was just to the point where she was like, I'm
01:25:59
not about to keep doing this like him, him damaging her in
01:26:04
the last episode by cutting her arms.
01:26:08
I think that's really the most aside from the last season when
01:26:12
she got when she got I think what she stabbed what she I
01:26:17
think she got impaled or something but we don't really
01:26:21
see an edge get hurt too often. So the fact that he got that
01:26:25
close to her and was able to like literally Bind her, and and
01:26:31
make those. Cuz I think she was like, no I'm
01:26:33
not about to do this anymore because again, this guy was
01:26:37
doing this for sport. He was getting pleasure out of
01:26:39
hurting her and I think and then she was like, I absolutely not.
01:26:43
I'm not about to give any man the satisfaction of gaining
01:26:47
pleasure over hurting me ever again.
01:26:50
I mean, she had her new knives, she went in there ready to fight
01:26:55
and you know, you can hear the kind of the voiceover.
01:26:58
With cast talking to her because in the scene where they were
01:27:01
together earlier where he was helping her cleaner wound, he
01:27:05
was telling her what weakness is to look out for, you know, for
01:27:09
this do and where you have to, you have to find his weakness,
01:27:12
mmm. Yes, find his weak, his weak
01:27:14
spots, his weaknesses. And then, you know, when she
01:27:18
asked, if she was asking him like, well, what am I
01:27:21
weaknesses? Do I have one Amy was telling
01:27:23
her again, how observant he is? Okay, so you do this, you Put
01:27:28
your pressure on your back leg when you get ready to Lunge like
01:27:32
look for those types of things and they tell you this different
01:27:35
things like, you know, in when someone gets ready to do a
01:27:39
punch, they might move a certain way before they throw that
01:27:42
punch, all these kinds of things.
01:27:44
So one of the things that we hear in this voiceover is he was
01:27:49
like look for something that hurts him and she was like, he
01:27:52
feels no pain, he said but that's a weakness in itself
01:27:56
because he won't know how Hurt. He is until you deliver that
01:28:00
final blow and as you see why she's fighting him, even when
01:28:05
he's getting the best of her. She's cutting him here, she
01:28:09
stabbed him, you know, she's throwing the knives and stabbed
01:28:11
him here, or she's delivering all these little cuts and then
01:28:15
when she makes that last move and she slides under his legs,
01:28:19
that she turns around. And I was just like Not the
01:28:23
hamstrings, right? He couldn't really like he
01:28:35
couldn't stand. He was he was damaged.
01:28:38
Yeah, she could his hamstrings as I'm surprised.
01:28:40
He was still able to kind of stand.
01:28:43
She could his femoral artery. She wasn't getting his
01:28:45
hamstrings, but that's the way it looks like what she cut
01:28:48
behind his knee in that your hamstring.
01:28:51
No, that was the. Oh yeah, a bit higher.
01:28:55
But yeah, she got the artery but, you know, I found it
01:28:59
interesting because of course he was, he was telling her at the
01:29:03
beginning, he was like, that's okay.
01:29:05
I know all the places to cut and she came up and she was like,
01:29:10
you know, all the places to cut and the way that they did this
01:29:13
because she says this and then they give the slow-mo when she
01:29:16
gets up and I was like, oh, she's in a delicious, she's
01:29:18
about to deliver the fatality. She's I'm about to deliver
01:29:21
something because the way she just kind of stood up and she
01:29:24
was looking, I was like, yeah, she's letting him know, you
01:29:27
ain't about to catch me. She was like I know all the
01:29:29
places to cut to as she turns around and does that roundhouse
01:29:32
kick? Is she impales him on that
01:29:35
artery? And then she walks over with the
01:29:38
the blade and it has sank, to lean on it.
01:29:41
He was like and what would your what would your saying, you
01:29:44
know, feel about what you're doing or whatever.
01:29:47
She was like, I'm the one that's in control of what happens here
01:29:50
and she goes ahead and she kills him.
01:29:53
I was like, yeah, y'all don't Unleash the Beast in this girl
01:29:56
now. Because now that she's had to
01:30:00
kill, you know what, she did the in the last season now, she's
01:30:05
like, okay, if it's if it's a matter of survival or killing,
01:30:09
I'm going to survive and y'all are not about to put baby in a
01:30:13
corner. She was like, yelling out about
01:30:16
to chain me and no, absolutely not.
01:30:20
And I'm like, I'm here for it. Yeah I like this version of an
01:30:27
edge and this is like I'm not taking No Bullshit from y'all.
01:30:31
I'm not about to let anybody ever be in control of me and my
01:30:34
body again and if you try I'm just going to have to mark your
01:30:39
ass. Okay I'm here for it.
01:30:42
I'm here for it. But yeah I like what we have
01:30:47
seen From the crows this season so far.
01:30:52
I mean with three episodes in and again we've seen a lot more
01:30:56
character development for them. You seeing some surprising
01:31:00
things with them like I said. And nationale has no, I won't
01:31:04
say she has no reserves about killing but she's not as
01:31:08
hesitant about it. Like she was last season again,
01:31:11
if it's Survivor kill. She's going to survive Kaz with
01:31:15
the secret ass-kicking skills. I'm here For it, you know,
01:31:21
Jasper with with his gun. So I'm just yeah, this is like,
01:31:26
this is becoming the best version of the crows that I have
01:31:29
seen and I'm here for it. I'm loving it.
01:31:34
Yeah. But I have a feeling that Pekka
01:31:39
Rollins is about to meet his match, especially since he kind
01:31:43
of sort of revealed his cards in the last episode.
01:31:47
But oh, okay. So I figured out how you I
01:31:49
figured out that you were going to come here because I know how
01:31:51
you think. And you already blew up the
01:31:54
crows Club. I knew you weren't going to do
01:31:56
this then other so I figured you'd be here.
01:32:00
Oh, now that cast knows that you're trying to figure him out.
01:32:04
What is it fool me once? Shame on.
01:32:06
You fool me twice. Shame on me, Kaz is not about to
01:32:09
be fooled a second time. I think Pekka Rollins has met
01:32:14
his match and I'm ready to see what Casas by to do Kelly.
01:32:18
Yeah, I found another way to get to him suffering.
01:32:21
I was like oh what is he about to do?
01:32:23
What is he about to do? Just, just don't hurt the little
01:32:28
boy, the little boys little terror.
01:32:31
But he like, what? What they what did Jessica say,
01:32:34
he say he was a right demon, but he was.
01:32:35
Okay. And let's see wasn't one of
01:32:42
those kids. He wasn't, he wasn't the
01:32:44
screaming type. He wasn't that.
01:32:46
He was just he was just a little boy who didn't like to play
01:32:49
piano. He was like yeah I kept the
01:32:51
strain because I mean everyone angry, I'd be honest.
01:32:54
Yeah, I couldn't scream figured. He was just like, hey, who are
01:33:00
you? That wasn't.
01:33:01
It wasn't no. He was just a cute.
01:33:06
Little seven-year-old was like, why are you in my house?
01:33:09
All you come to fix the piano. Damn.
01:33:16
Right? While it was like, history's
01:33:19
been could that is to clean but I think it was interesting when
01:33:23
Jesper told the nanny, he was like whoever you know, whoever
01:33:28
cut this this string or you know talking about Albert, he was
01:33:31
like he cut it with a sharp object like he was telling a
01:33:35
nanny. I need you to pay attention to
01:33:38
what this little kid does because he had a sharp object
01:33:41
and I'll tell him what he had and what he's doing with it.
01:33:44
But you need to pay more attention to your the charge may
01:33:47
help. Look at this, we're being all
01:33:50
self-conscious about the kids and stuff such as a nice guy.
01:33:54
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a nice guy.
01:33:57
That's why he's one of the best characters of the best
01:33:58
characters in here, just like you found out.
01:34:01
Same, I'm happy again, this is growth roast.
01:34:07
So proud of you as long as we keep this snark to a minimum, we
01:34:11
good Jesper snark. The only way she'd time.
01:34:18
Don't waste your time on it. It's fine.
01:34:22
We'll get, we'll get back to it in future episodes.
01:34:24
Anyway, star - pot or a better. That's okay, you know, the one
01:34:31
thing I was thinking about in this episode when we found out
01:34:36
that Sturm Han was the prince. I was like, how did that King?
01:34:41
And that Queen have a prince. That's this charming.
01:34:46
And this friendly and this accepting of the Grisha.
01:34:52
How did that child come from those parents?
01:34:55
Usually, it's almost like he's adopted, he's the spare, no
01:34:58
one's attention to the spare, they let them do whatever they
01:35:02
want to do because the note them one kids, the one that they're
01:35:05
focused on trying to influence and raised and get ready for the
01:35:08
thumb. He's never expected to take the,
01:35:09
take the crown. So they basically like Prince
01:35:12
William and Prince Harry. Yeah.
01:35:14
Right laughs. I hear but here The fame, this
01:35:16
is and I'm glad you brought up William and Harry because here's
01:35:19
the thing. So you ever notice that it's the
01:35:22
ones that people damn are not the important ones that are the
01:35:25
ones that come and fuck your whole thing up because they
01:35:28
literally have been left alone to their own devices and they're
01:35:33
not being brought up in the same way as the, you know, the first
01:35:37
in line. So they're the ones that are
01:35:39
more accepting of people. They're the ones that are more
01:35:42
tolerant, they're the ones who are not as narrow.
01:35:45
Narrow-minded. Like I really feel like
01:35:49
nikolai's about to come and fuck some shit up.
01:35:52
Like like, oh yeah, the parents and the in the brother were
01:35:57
about to head to the spinning wheel.
01:35:59
Yeah, he's the one that's been using his army to kill Grisha.
01:36:03
All you're about to walk into a whole bunch of Grisha, so I
01:36:07
don't know. I feel like Nikolai showing up
01:36:10
before his family shows up, was probably a good thing because
01:36:14
you have all of those those Grisha.
01:36:17
And you have the king and queen and the first son showing up,
01:36:23
that probably would not have been a good reception.
01:36:27
My own. These are the people who have
01:36:29
been hunting are our people. These are the ones who have been
01:36:33
killing our Brethren and they're here.
01:36:37
Yeah, especially if you think about what had already happened
01:36:42
to be king queen prior to everything falling, like the
01:36:47
king had this illness that Ginga, you know, jr.
01:36:51
He brought that shown himself. I have no have no no feelings
01:36:55
about that except for That's what the fuck you get.
01:36:58
Yeah. Okay, that's all I'm saying.
01:37:00
So the Grisha have already in a sense, attacked the royal family
01:37:05
and now you're taking them to the place where there's more
01:37:07
great but we'll see how that pans out because that's going to
01:37:13
be interesting once they get there, especially if they see
01:37:16
that nikolai's there and Nikolai has offered Sanctuary to the
01:37:20
Grisha, that's going to be a problem for the royal family.
01:37:23
So I'm curious to see how they're going going to react to
01:37:26
that. Are they walking into a hornet's
01:37:32
nest? Which, I mean, hey, I have no,
01:37:36
that's what they do. I mean, it's like, we have a lot
01:37:39
of a lot of, like really talented strong-willed,
01:37:42
strong-minded people who are used to walking in The Hornet's
01:37:46
Nest and beehives and, and like thing, like, what the fuck ever?
01:37:50
I'm doomed. I need to do what I got to do.
01:37:52
So yeah, but that royal family ain't one of them.
01:37:54
So that's going to be interesting.
01:37:56
Yeah. It's good.
01:37:58
So yeah, hmm. Anybody have any other thoughts
01:38:03
about this episode? It was, it was good.
01:38:05
I think like Lori said the second episode.
01:38:08
It was a bit slow. I still liked it, but it was
01:38:13
slower. I think this one had a lot of
01:38:18
the pacing was a lot quicker. The pacing was a lot bigger.
01:38:22
Yeah. And they're really kind of going
01:38:24
through the store like, Again I see I see elements of books, two
01:38:31
and three coming into play. So it's going to be interesting
01:38:36
to see how they paste this season and where they end it.
01:38:41
As far as the story goes, but yeah, this one, shut up.
01:38:45
Shout out to them. Give showing Mathias, Mattias,
01:38:48
feeding the wolves. And I'm like, if that's not
01:38:53
foreshadowing, I don't know what it is like for real.
01:38:58
You seem like the wolves are growling and stuff and here you
01:39:00
go. Here's some food for you.
01:39:02
Nicole. Thank you is like then they just
01:39:04
like really write the rules are like now his best friends.
01:39:09
Exactly. Gee that's not gonna come back
01:39:11
around at some point in this season though.
01:39:13
You know it has to. It was no point other than him
01:39:20
feeding them and be like oh they're sacred to us.
01:39:22
Blah blah blah. Yeah.
01:39:24
All of a sudden the wolves are they're not dumb things.
01:39:27
Like okay, this human we like hmm.
01:39:30
And then the fact that Mattias is now fighting and we've seen
01:39:33
we've already seen that they put animals in the ring.
01:39:37
So yeah, that's that's probably going to be a thing.
01:39:41
So maybe that's how much highest Gets Out of Hell Gate.
01:39:43
Maybe they try to, you know put the Wolves against him in the
01:39:46
woods like, nope, this is our, this is our boy and they
01:39:48
probably going to go and kill all the guards and maybe he can
01:39:52
get out. That would be fun.
01:39:55
What if he knows what's his name from will of time?
01:39:57
You can like, you know, call him, you know, and on that note
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