#outlander After 464 days, DROUGHTLANDER IS OVER!!! Season 7 returned with an emotional episode, for many reasons. Jamie, Claire, and Ian are finally reunited with the Murrays, but their reunion is marred with somber news. Jamie attempts to right some long overdue wrongs. Claire comes clean about her past. Ian makes a confession to his father. Roger and Buck go through the stones to find Jemmy, but find many surprises waiting for them. Claire's visit is cut short when she is needed back in the Colonies.
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What's up, hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast. This is Hanukkah and I'm here
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with Michelle and we are discussing the return of
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Outlander Season 7 Episode 9. Drought Lander is over.
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Yes, yes, yes. Finally, and we are back in
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Scotland. But this episode here.
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You ain't even gonna give me a minute.
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How do you feel about this episode, Michelle?
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It was great. I mean, the reunion was great,
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but all the other stuff in between?
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You mean in between you look you.
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You mean from the beginning of the episode?
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You start the episode with Simon Fraser's funeral.
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Then when Ian reunites with his family he sees his brothers.
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One of his brothers is there from France and he's like did
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you bring your wife? No, she died 2 weeks ago from
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influenza. And then Dan?
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And then you find out that Big Ian has consumption and has been
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sick. And the crazy thing is, when
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Claire asks Jenny how long he's had the cough, she said.
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You remember when it came back from the toll booth?
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Never. It never went away.
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What that's? A long time.
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That's a long time that was wow. Claire was gone when they were
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searching for the dumb bonding so and when I say they do look
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he looked like horrible like. But I still had some fight in
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him 'cause he he was able to walk in and out when he left.
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So I completely enjoyed it. But that's yes, but that was.
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You weren't prepared for that. I wasn't either.
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I was like. No, 'cause I, I was wondering
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like, why, why didn't they come out?
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But now I know and something is so sad because Ian, them looking
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at him, that's the last time they're gonna see him.
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So that's like, that was horrible.
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But I'm glad we got this time. Yeah.
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And I know. And I love that it was a good
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time for Jamie to come back because Jenny needed that, A
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reminder of who she is and what she has accomplished.
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Yeah. So when Ian goes, she can get
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back on track. But when I tell you when I read
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this in the books, I was like, so you mean when when the show
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comes back, you mean that we're going back to Scotland just to
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be with Ian for however long he has?
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And I was so mad when I read it because I was like my Ian, my
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Ian. But y'all couldn't let let now
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let. Me.
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Let me let. Me not, let me not say that, but
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because I don't want to wish death on her character.
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She was just, she was just horrible.
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But she wasn't, she wasn't a Rob camera so.
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Oh no. And it and to be completely
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honest, Leary had her false, but you got to kind of see the time
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period and what was happening. And she really thought that
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somehow in the beginning, beginning, Jamie had feelings.
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For her, which she wasn't wrong about as far as you know,
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thinking that because Jamie. Was using her right so to make
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Claire jealous, right? And then later when she gets
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with them and stuff, she thought that would change things and
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that just didn't. OK, so this is the this is the
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part that kind of bothers me about the way that they're
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telling the story in the show as opposed to the books, because it
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kind of it makes it seem like Jamie just didn't try with
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Leary. And I think that that was.
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I don't think he I didn't feel like he didn't in the show.
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Well, go, if you go by what she says in the argument that she
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has with him in this episode, she's like, you never saw me,
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you know, you just pitied me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And if you remember when Jamie was first telling Claire about
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the marriage and about what, you know, what made him marry her
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and stuff, you know, he talks about how he could never be
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intimate with her because she was shy away from him.
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So in the books, if I remember correctly, because it has been a
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few years since I've read that particular part of the books
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when he talks about his marriage to Leary.
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So when they get married in the books, yes, he marries her
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mostly for the kids, but he's like, OK, well, I'm going to try
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to, you know, make this work, blah, blah, blah.
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And he does try to be a good husband to her.
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He tries to be intimate with her.
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But like he said in the show as well, she was always very sullen
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with him. She was very angry.
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There were days when she would not, just would not speak to
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him. And we all know Jamie.
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Jamie is one of those people. He is very big on communication
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with his wife. He's very affectionate.
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He's very, he's very much a sexual being.
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He's very much a physical being. So he moved out because he
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didn't want to feel like he was trying to force himself on her
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when she very clearly didn't want him.
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So in the books, I can't remember if this is while they
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were actually married or afterwards.
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There was a there was a scene where he comes back to the
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house, he's outside the house and he hears like this kind of
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guttural grown like this, whatever, kind of like he, he
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describes it in the book, I believe it's like animalistic in
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nature. And he happens to look in the
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window and Leary is in the house having this like really, really
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rough sex with some guy. I don't know.
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I don't think it was the same guy that she is involved with
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here in the show. But it was one of those things
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where he he was angry about it because he was like, I tried to
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be a good husband. I tried to be a loving husband.
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He knew that her first two marriages were rough on her.
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You know, she had husbands who beat her, beat the kids, had
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husbands who were not gentle with her in that in that
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physical sense. And he was just trying to be a
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good husband to her. And he was like, if this is what
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she want, like, like she pursued me for years.
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She wanted me for all this time. She damn, they care about killed
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my wife trying to get to me. And then when she finally has
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me, she doesn't even want me. But then she goes and she's with
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this. Like, he was really pissed about
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it in the books. Like it hurt his pride.
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It hurt his, you know, his manhood.
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And so when Claire is jesting with him at the beginning of
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this episode, when he tells her he's going to see Lyra, she was
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like, well, you know, if you just want to know who she's
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sleeping with, there's other ways to find out.
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It felt out of place to me because you don't know what that
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background is, you know? But other than that, there
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weren't too many things that I didn't like about the.
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Episode now go back because we were talking about in the book
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you were like he tried but in the episodes on the show I felt
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that he did try with her. Yeah, but but I did her.
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Her perspective and sense of reality was just off.
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And she felt wounded that he made a choice.
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Yeah. And that choice was clear.
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And even though she still had, she got him in the not at the
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end, but at that point she got him.
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He still wasn't hers. Yeah, but you know what?
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And I would say this, and again, this is attitudes.
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In this time. Yeah, attitudes in this time and
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also the wait because everybody falls in love so quickly in the
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in in the 1700s. But if you knew like as much as
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he went through with Claire, even in the beginning when they
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came back to LYAC and he made it clear that, yeah, I'm, I'm going
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to stick with her. This is my wife.
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I want to be with her for you to keep trying over and over to get
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with this man. I'm sorry if I don't want to say
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she got what she deserved, but stop.
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Stop fawning and stop trying to get a man.
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But she still kind of thought he did in the beginning.
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It's still this episode when she asking him.
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So you really didn't care? Okay, and again, this goes back
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to all these people catching feelings when he took that
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beating for her, she said I thought you did it because you
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loved me. But she knew even before then,
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like he didn't really pay attention to her.
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Right. But but you would think that he
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was being shy. So I'm saying like people would
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be thinking. So like for example, let's say
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Ian Rachel has the dog. Clearly they kiss, but he still
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hadn't really confessed his feelings.
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He left his dog right. I'm just using this example.
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So but if he turned around and came back with a wife, she'd be
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like, well, I mean, you wasn't direct, but I just assume and
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that's like, well, maybe he was shy, maybe I feel.
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But when he took that beating, he was actually confessing his
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love. I'm just trying to help her out.
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OK, we can move on. We don't need to help her.
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Out we can. You don't need to help.
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But you know, it's it's over now.
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Yes, yeah, that's over. And she marrying her Boo.
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Yes, and he's finally done with her because we'll talk about the
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knocks on the door. But Joni appears and talks to
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him because she wants to go into the convent.
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She wants to become a nun, and Leary is withholding her dowry
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so that she can't go. And I'm like, Leary, OK, you
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know what? This is the one thing I don't
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like about Leary's character. And I understand.
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Again, it's the times. Whatever.
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But you are literally holding off on your own happiness
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because of money. And land well, because she's
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been on that land. For years.
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But here's the thing, if that's what it was, you could have
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talked all this stuff, all this talk about the alimony and you
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haven't been sending me the money and blah blah blah.
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If he was holding bow rigging and trusty ship and that was her
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main thing, she could have just said, you know what, give me bow
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rigging and all bets are off. I can do whatever I need to do,
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but. She wasn't going to do that.
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She wasn't going to do. That but.
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'Cause he couldn't even figure that out.
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It had to be Jamie, Joni had to say.
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You can come up with a solution, wink, wink.
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I don't. Think Jamie I.
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Don't even thought about it. And that's.
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The problem too he. Wasn't thinking about it 'cause
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he was just like. Send money.
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I mean, she got the land, I'll send the money.
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No, you need to finalize these things.
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Like she is in the holding place.
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I'm going to be on her side on this one, OK?
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Because she does love Joey the farmer.
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However, if we get married, then we don't have a place to to
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live. I've been here years.
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And I get that, but that's why now.
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And and this man has so no interest of either saying it's
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over. Here's the land like nothing.
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So she doesn't know what he is thinking.
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So she's like, well, I'm just going to keep doing what I'm
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going to do. However, Jamie should have
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realized, but you know what? He didn't realize 'cause he
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really don't care. It took the funeral for him to
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realize, well, maybe I need to go apologize and close this.
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Yeah, part of my life. Because I mean, he's been so far
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removed from it, but also he could have been just making.
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And you acting like she don't talk to Marsley.
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Right, but no. But I'm thinking the reason why
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he may have kept bow rigging in his trusty ship was to make sure
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that she didn't do any, you know, 'cause she probably could
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have if he knew. If he let me, let me.
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He didn't even try it. I don't even think it's that it.
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I think he probably kept holding on to it to make sure it will be
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there for Joni and Marsley if they ever wanted to go back.
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Maybe that's where his he could. Have put that in, Rodney.
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But you know what? He's been busy, but he.
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Didn't think, but you know what? And at the and at the time, he
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was just trying to get, he was just trying to make that
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annulment go through so he could live his happy life.
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And they they. Think about it, they had not
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thought about her one be it you know when he when it comes to
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mine, sometimes sometimes when Marcy turn to serve way he'd be
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right. Man, I, I think I do need to
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take care of some of these. And then it goes away and he and
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then they back dealing with the issues that they got in here.
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Like, that's really probably the only time he thought about it.
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And he came home and he was like.
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Let me go. Close.
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It closes. Think about this a few years.
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Ago and for all right so yeah he got her out of his his life now
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he gave her bow rigging told her that you know you go get married
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you can have this house but he did make he did when you die
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when you die it does not go to your husband he's.
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Back there like Joy the father like I'll shit with that.
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I just want to manage exactly take care of me exactly I'm.
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Good and Joni is going to go to the convent.
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He's like, go to. Right now I will say this about
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about them coming back to Scotland.
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I love that they got back as many of the original actors as
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they could. Like we know they they had to re
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catch Jenny, but it was OK. I was really worried about like
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how I was going to feel about this new person being Jenny
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because she was such a force in the few episodes that we we got
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to see her and know her and love her.
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But yeah, I, I think this new actress, Kristen is her name.
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I think she's going to be good. Yeah, and you know what helped
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that they older. Yes.
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So then you could be like, oh, it's a change in her 'cause like
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he has grandkids. I can spend some time so I can.
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My brain made the quick adjustment.
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What it did make adjustment for was damn, your siblings are old.
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I was like, wait a second. You mean Ian's siblings?
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Yeah. You have to remember he's also,
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he's also the baby. And no.
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And that was like, oh, it's good about them.
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Right. Or the he's the youngest son.
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I can't remember if he's the youngest.
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He's the youngest son. Kid, kid.
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But yeah, they're all like, grown and yeah, grandchildren
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and. A lot of grandkids.
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Yeah, because I think even when Claire came back after the 20
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years, when she was in the house, Jenny was holding one of
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Michael's newest babies and she was telling she was saying that
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he had four at that time. Yeah, so he was already grown
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and and procreating and everything so that.
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Threw me off. Even Ian was like, hey, what,
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Michael? Yeah, OK, yeah.
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But yeah, OK. So so let's talk about this home
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going a little bit because even like you said, even though Ian
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is sick and I think I said this when we're watching, I said how
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y'all made finance Stephen Creed look like he was a minute from a
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minute from death's door. Just I was like, are we gonna
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see him die in this episode? Because that I would not be
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ready for. I thought it was gonna happen
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so. And we, we at least get him for
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one more episode at least. But you know, I don't know how
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long they're gonna keep Jamie in Scotland because Claire does
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have to go back and Jamie stays behind.
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But we'll, we'll get to that as well.
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But just seeing the old family, seeing Jamie and Claire be with
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the Murray's again, seeing ON have his sense of humor when
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they're talking about, you know, his impending sickness.
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And he was like, look, I could be dead tomorrow.
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I could be dead in a year, I'll wager 3 months myself.
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And Jamie was like, how would you, how you going to collect
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your old coop? And I was like, OK, I like this.
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I'm one of those people. I don't like the, the, the dread
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and drum that come the, the dread and drum.
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I don't like the dread and doom that comes with death.
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Storylines are just death in general.
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I'm one of those people. Like when people have weird
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sense of humor or dark sense of humor when it comes to facing
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their own mortality. That's kind of my speed anyway.
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So to see him still be in those kinds of like, you know, every
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time we've seen Ian and Jamie, they've always gone back and
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forth. Jamie being serious and Ian
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being the one that's kind of cracking jokes.
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So to see that with this, I loved it.
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I love the fact that Claire finally, finally told.
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Them. Yeah, that was nice, that.
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She is from the future and I love the look that they had
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'cause you see, when she's facing them, she's telling
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Michael, Ian and Jenny. I don't think she told any of
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the other kids, but they're all sitting there looking at her
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life. Huh.
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And but Jenny Brain starts moving.
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And ends too cause Engle was just sitting there.
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Like this makes some sense here. Yeah, this really explains why
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you didn't come back to my brother for 20 years, because
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she, that was one of the things she said bothered her the most.
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She said, I remember sitting on these stairs when the Red Coats
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took him and you, she said we went to go look for him.
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You didn't. I mean, she literally crossed
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the whole countryside looking for James.
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So it all, it never sat right with Jenny.
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That Claire just, oh, I just assumed he was dead and I'm not
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going to come back. Yeah, and not even even go to
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the house and be like, you know, he's dead.
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Can I grieve here? Yeah.
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And you are gone. Gone.
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Gone so. That explains it.
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Yeah. So I'm, I'm glad that they know
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now because I think it makes it, it makes it easier because now
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Jenny can stop being so suspicious of her when she tells
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her to do something. I mean, she wasn't as suspicious
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back then, but you know, Jenny, Jenny, OK.
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Jamie said this to Claire when he was joking about going to
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Lyrias. He was like, Claire.
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You're not usually one to go hold a grudge.
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Jenny absolutely does. And Jenny been mad at Claire for
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a lot of reasons for a lot for a long.
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Time And Claire was actually mad at her too.
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Yeah, she was like, you've been holding the grudge.
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Like you've been holding the grudge because I told you about
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his name. Claire's like I.
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Don't care, really care. I mean, we've been together the
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last 10 years now. I don't care.
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I don't care Like this is Claire is very secure in her marriage.
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She's very secure with where she is in the world.
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And she, no, Larry, don't hold the candle to her.
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Sorry, Larry, you don't. So that was just a momentary
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hiccup. But also, if we remember
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correctly, Jamie was just about to tell Claire about the
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marriage when the kids bust in. So it's not like he wasn't going
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to do it. But this is a woman you have not
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seen for 20 years, somebody that you thought was dead.
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The first thing you going to say is not going to be.
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Oh, yeah, I have another. What?
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No, because you don't know what this is about to be.
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I mean. And even during that reunion, he
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was like, so Art, did you just come back to bring me news of my
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daughter or are you planning on staying like.
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Yeah, like, what is this right? Yeah, well, for that long she
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could have fell in love with someone else.
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But she could have been like, oh, I'm going to come and give
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you. I'm going to come and give you
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news of your daughter. And then I'm going back to the
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20th century. So he was probably like, look,
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let me hit it while I it's. Claire.
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Wait, Claire's not going to hold a grudge about that?
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And not to Jenny, of all people, because she, I mean, if you
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think about it, she understood what Jenny was doing.
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Jenny was trying to make sure that Jamie stayed righteous,
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that Jamie did what he was supposed to do.
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And she also, let's, let's be honest, she was trying to get
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the truth. She was trying to figure out
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where Claire had been. And she probably used that
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opportunity to try to force the truth out of her.
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But Claire, Claire is not going to hold a grudge for that.
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And I'm glad that at the end, she finally realized that she
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was like, I trust in your love for our family.
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Yes, 'cause Claire has loved your family from day one.
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I think Claire understood that she was just really talking out
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for Greece. She just don't want Ian to die.
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And then you find out this woman to be magical, you're not really
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quite sure they can give you the quite all the details.
00:22:03
She just has knowledge. You just like please help him.
00:22:06
And like Claire said, and I'm mad that she can't help him.
00:22:11
You think Claire's not mad? She.
00:22:12
Can't. But you know, that's what I'm
00:22:14
saying. So at the end she apologized
00:22:16
because she knew, you know, it was just me.
00:22:18
Just saying I just don't want my man to die.
00:22:21
Yeah, because you see how long you know, how long she's loved
00:22:24
them because let's get. To.
00:22:26
That Let's get to these parts. So yes.
00:22:28
So while Claire is sitting there telling them that she's from the
00:22:32
future, there's a knock at the door.
00:22:34
And at the same time, Rodger and Buck have arrived in Scotland.
00:22:40
OK, they've arrived in Scotland. They're looking for Rob and
00:22:43
Jimmy. They decide to split up.
00:22:46
Buck is going to go to Inverness and see and Roger tells him he
00:22:50
was like, well Jimmy knows these stones because I've I've brought
00:22:55
him here before so he wouldn't be caught unawares.
00:22:57
He knows how to get home from the stones.
00:23:00
So if he was able to get away from Rob Cameron, maybe he went
00:23:04
back to Lolly Brock. So Roger heads towards Lolly
00:23:08
Brock. Now.
00:23:10
Now I already knew what was going to happen because I read
00:23:12
the books. I was finally Michelle was like.
00:23:16
Wait the same time. Are they going to say are they?
00:23:19
Going to knock on the door. Oh my God, this will be perfect.
00:23:22
I was ready. I was ready, but in the back of
00:23:25
my mind and it was misdirection because they're having it all at
00:23:29
the same time and I'm like, this is going to be helping.
00:23:33
Fantastic. We going to get the whole family
00:23:36
help here and they get to meet Roger, but it's staying and
00:23:42
Joni. Johnny was on at at Jamie's
00:23:46
door, and the door that Roger knocked on was still.
00:23:50
Molly Brock. But it is Jamie's dad and I'm
00:23:55
telling y'all, that's what I said.
00:23:57
You don't know how to use the stones.
00:24:00
This man now is way out of time. Roger.
00:24:05
You are before Jamie. Meet Claire Time.
00:24:09
Yeah, he ends up in either, I think he said it was 1935 or
00:24:13
1939 or 1940. He was doing some quick.
00:24:16
He was trying to do that math. It's him all night.
00:24:18
Be like, OK, Jamie's at college, right?
00:24:22
He's 18 or 19. That means, you know, because
00:24:25
one Rodger already looks out of place because he's got the short
00:24:28
hair. So he already looks out of
00:24:31
place. But Brian Fraser, when he
00:24:33
answers the door, and, you know, of course, Rogers in shock
00:24:38
because he was like, he thought it was Mr. Murray.
00:24:42
No, this is Brian Fraser. This is.
00:24:44
Yeah. So he's sitting there trying to
00:24:47
figure it out. And of course, Brian Fraser's
00:24:50
looking at him like, dude, you OK?
00:24:51
And he was like, oh, yeah, I'm so sorry.
00:24:54
So my son has been taken by a man named Rob Cameron.
00:24:58
Have you seen him? And so he starts trying to
00:25:00
recover himself. And all the time, one of the
00:25:03
things about the episode, we're getting a lot of inner dialogue.
00:25:06
So we're getting all of Roger's inner dialogue, which kind of
00:25:09
threw me off because we don't really usually get Roger's inner
00:25:13
voice. And at one point I was like, did
00:25:16
he say that out loud or did he say in his head when he said
00:25:20
Jenny, I didn't know. No, you didn't say it like
00:25:24
Forrest Gump because. Because.
00:25:27
We were Roger Ginny. This is where.
00:25:29
Roger got in trouble last time. I need you to stop looking at
00:25:32
these women a certain way when you be like, oh, I know you are.
00:25:37
You know, to the point that the man had to say, my daughter
00:25:42
already has. A boyfriend.
00:25:46
Well, not a boyfriend. She has a crush on somebody
00:25:49
that's on, in, on in. But and then you had to say, oh,
00:25:53
oh, I got it. You should have just said, oh,
00:25:55
she looked like my sister. Instead you were like, oh, I got
00:25:59
a wife. That make you even look worse
00:26:01
because that means you've got a wife.
00:26:02
But you're looking at this young.
00:26:03
Girl, right, Right. I need him to stop when he comes
00:26:07
in contact with a family member and he's just looking at him
00:26:11
because he's just like, wow, he's in shock.
00:26:13
Yeah, stop. Look at the floor.
00:26:16
Look up at the sky, look to the right and look to the left, and
00:26:20
then refocus yourself. But he was also, I think, and
00:26:24
well, I know. That's the second time.
00:26:26
No, I know. Time he got home.
00:26:27
No, actually that it's the third time, third time because don't
00:26:32
forget about what's the name, the widow that he was building a
00:26:36
cabin for even though he wasn't looking at her like that, but
00:26:38
still he was spending a little. Yeah, that was, I would say
00:26:41
that's him because he used the other one was a relative.
00:26:43
And and he got caught up in that and he got home for that.
00:26:46
OK. And this time around, you better
00:26:48
be lucky that dad is nice and just said, honey, she has a
00:26:52
crush. And clearly it's more than a
00:26:55
crush when everybody know about it.
00:26:57
Right. So Jenny goes to get Rodger.
00:27:01
When when they're going out to Murray and Jim.
00:27:04
My son's not here, so clearly they know who you come over here
00:27:09
for. Right.
00:27:09
But OK, even with that 19391940 where they are right now,
00:27:16
present day in 1778, that means you have loved this man for 40
00:27:21
years and now you are you are faced with the prospect of
00:27:24
losing him. So I understand why she why she
00:27:27
reacted the way she reacted to to Claire.
00:27:30
But going back to Rodger and Lally Brock.
00:27:33
So yeah, Rodger ends up in 19391940.
00:27:38
I mean, 17391740, he does not know how he got there.
00:27:43
He's like, did did Rob and Jim travel to the wrong time too?
00:27:48
Like there's so many things that he now has to really figure out
00:27:52
because technically speaking, Roger doesn't know anybody in
00:27:57
this time. Nobody.
00:27:59
Nobody. Because he was trying to go 40
00:28:03
years ahead of where he ended up.
00:28:08
How do you miscalculate by 40 years?
00:28:10
You can't calculate. There is not a doubt on the
00:28:14
stones that's. Something has to guide him we've
00:28:18
talked about. But that was.
00:28:19
Certain. People being magnets, right?
00:28:22
And here's the thing. And what you're thinking and
00:28:25
what? And you go to places for a
00:28:29
reason. There is a purpose.
00:28:31
That's sad. It's a purpose and a reason
00:28:33
Jamie, not Jamie Claire end up where she was because of that
00:28:37
magnet and it was a purpose for her to be there.
00:28:40
Her purpose, I hate to say it, her purpose is Jamie.
00:28:46
So Roger purpose is his child. But if they are not, if they
00:28:53
didn't travel through the stones, then he won't have
00:28:56
anywhere to go, that is. True.
00:29:00
Or. If he or I don't want to say if
00:29:05
he, if he misdirected because you know one of the things about
00:29:10
Roger's family, they have all these different Jeremiahs now if
00:29:14
him and Buck both are thinking of Jeremiah when they're going
00:29:17
through the stones. That can mess you.
00:29:19
Up they could have been think they could have traveled back 40
00:29:22
years that could have been Buck's grandfather, great
00:29:27
grandfather or something that they because you you have no way
00:29:31
of no. Right.
00:29:32
That's what I'm saying so that so Jeremiah and Cameron could be
00:29:39
anywhere, anytime they. Could be anywhere.
00:29:43
I mean, they could, they really could be in 2000s.
00:29:46
Let's see. That's what I'm saying.
00:29:52
You we can't determine when Claire went back.
00:29:56
Claire, when Claire went back and it was, you know, years
00:30:00
later, she was just hoping that it will be the same amount of
00:30:04
time. It was 20 years.
00:30:05
But her heart again was saying I want to see him.
00:30:10
So she was going to end up at any point.
00:30:12
She was going to see him. Yeah.
00:30:14
I mean, her heart's desire. That was her, her main purpose,
00:30:18
her heart's desire. That worked out right?
00:30:20
But also they they do know that there is about a two.
00:30:24
It's like anytime that Claire has traveled, it's always been
00:30:29
202 years. Exactly.
00:30:31
So it's like when she was a player.
00:30:34
It's not the same for everybody else.
00:30:36
See, that's what my problems are.
00:30:38
But we're going to leave it at that.
00:30:40
So now he is. He's with.
00:30:43
Family, even though they don't know.
00:30:45
We don't know where Cameron is. We don't know where Cameron is,
00:30:49
but and and. But they're doing the right
00:30:51
thing asking everyone before you get on the ship to North
00:30:54
Carolina. This is true too.
00:30:56
But the other thing too is we just talked about this when we
00:30:59
discussed episode 8. You don't know what happens to
00:31:04
your body when you go through the stones.
00:31:05
And we definitely see that with Buck because when they first
00:31:10
come through the stones, he's having heart issues, like almost
00:31:15
like a heart attack or he's having an anxiety attack or
00:31:18
something, but he has a hard time breathing.
00:31:20
So they separate. Like I said, Buck goes to
00:31:23
Inverness to check the ships. Rodger goes to Lally, Brock,
00:31:29
Jenny while they while Brian and Rodger are out trying to find
00:31:33
out if anybody has seen Rob or Jim, Jenny finds them and she
00:31:40
says your kinsman William McKenzie has taken I'll on his
00:31:46
way to Lally Brock. He asked for you to come.
00:31:49
So Buck is not doing good. And then they're like, OK, we
00:31:56
don't have a healer in these parts, but there is a herbalist
00:31:59
a ways away. So Roger's just kind of like,
00:32:02
OK, well, I guess the herbalist is going to have to do because
00:32:06
obviously Claire is not there yet.
00:32:07
Because even when Claire went back, it was 1743.
00:32:10
So they go into town, they knock on the door for the herbalist
00:32:16
and I was sitting there looking 'cause I was looking at my
00:32:19
peripheral, 'cause I wanted to see how Michelle was going to
00:32:21
react when the door opened. And here is gave us Duncan.
00:32:33
So not only is it gave us Duncan in 1939, this is Buck's mother
00:32:44
and Rodgers, what, 7 times great grandmother, but you.
00:32:50
I was like, when I read this in the book, I was like, oh, this
00:32:53
is going to be interesting. Now, I don't know if they're
00:32:55
going to do exactly what they did in the show as in the book,
00:32:59
but if they do, but. SPOILERS Does Buck know his
00:33:03
mother? No, he doesn't know that.
00:33:05
That's his mother. Who was he raised by?
00:33:12
There was another Mackenzie family that had lost their child
00:33:16
and so that's who Dougal gave the child to, OK gave Gaylis's
00:33:21
baby to. So he was raised by Mackenzie
00:33:23
still. So you can't say nothing because
00:33:27
we need her to go her regular married way and continue all the
00:33:31
shit she has done from here to there.
00:33:37
All I'm. Going to However, he's the only
00:33:39
person who can really understand and guide you to what you need.
00:33:44
To do they're not going to ask her nothing because we.
00:33:46
Won. I know.
00:33:47
I'm just saying she's the only person who would who actually
00:33:50
knows. She actually knows what's
00:33:52
happening and what to do. But you know, we can't talk.
00:33:55
To her, yeah, but I mean, we don't know if she knows what's
00:33:59
going on with him physically because as far as we know, she.
00:34:03
Know, but she know about. Friendly, yeah, but she didn't
00:34:06
have any issues traveling. So if they come in and they're
00:34:10
like, oh, even if Rodger says hey, I know you're a trap, first
00:34:14
of all, he can't have that conversation with her because
00:34:17
then it's going to be like, how do you know what I am?
00:34:19
And it's going to be a whole. Bad question.
00:34:21
She needs to continue on the path she's on.
00:34:23
Right. And she didn't.
00:34:25
But, but oh, wait, wait. But here's the thing.
00:34:31
Galis Duncan met Rodger before she went through the stones in
00:34:35
1969, so this is not exactly a stranger coming to her door.
00:34:40
But maybe she won't remember him like you meet people.
00:34:46
Was he that did she RIP me like she mad twice?
00:34:50
But did she meet him? Did she meet him enough for him
00:34:53
to leave an impact? Or did she meet him 'cause she
00:34:55
was at the college? You meet a lot of people.
00:34:57
Yeah, but no, she specifically spoke to him and Brianna at the
00:35:00
college, and then she saw them again at the pub.
00:35:03
Right, but still to remember what they look like.
00:35:08
Forget it's probably because she's probably looked at Roger
00:35:11
and was like, oh, he's attractive.
00:35:13
Right not to be his great, great.
00:35:16
No, because like I said, Roger now looks like he looks like
00:35:21
he's from the future, but he's older, but he looks like I'm
00:35:25
trying to call for Alice. She don't remember because he
00:35:27
has the short. He has the short haircut.
00:35:30
We're going to have to start a conversation about GAIL is after
00:35:32
this recording because I have some.
00:35:34
Questions. I'm just going to say it's going
00:35:38
to be a very interesting ride from here.
00:35:41
That's all I'm going to say. And what we have decided for
00:35:45
this remainder of season 7. We will be watching the show
00:35:50
together and then recording. So I'll be able to see all her
00:35:54
reactions. We are recording our reactions.
00:35:57
If there's something that's like really funny, I'll post it, but
00:36:01
I'm just at this point waiting to see what they're going to
00:36:04
bring to the screen from the books because I finished reading
00:36:09
the books for Dragon Con, so I'm kind of sort of in the know now.
00:36:12
But of course they do make changes from page to screen.
00:36:17
We've seen some of those changes.
00:36:18
But I will say, even with what we saw in this particular
00:36:22
episode, they did remain very close to the books.
00:36:27
I think the only thing that was really different of note for me
00:36:34
is the reason that Claire ends up going back to the States.
00:36:37
So what happens is Jamie and Claire are having a
00:36:41
conversation. Jenny brings Claire some, you
00:36:44
know, a letter that she's received.
00:36:47
And apparently it's it's from Lord John.
00:36:50
He's been trying to get letters to them, probably didn't know
00:36:54
where they were after they left Fort Ticonderoga.
00:36:57
But he's been trying to get letters to them because his
00:36:59
nephew was injured in battle, has musket balls stuck in his
00:37:04
stomach. None of the other physicians
00:37:06
there are able to do it. And he's asking Claire to come
00:37:10
and send to his nephew so that his nephew doesn't die.
00:37:14
So the only issue that I have with that is, and we were
00:37:18
talking about this, first of all, you left the Ridge over a
00:37:22
year ago to try to come to Scotland.
00:37:24
You get detained because you're conscripted into into battle.
00:37:28
So you spend the next year fighting the small battles that
00:37:34
are leading up to the American Revolution.
00:37:36
OK. You finally get leave to go home
00:37:38
to Scotland. This is a month long journey.
00:37:42
I think if I'm not mistaken, I remember them either referencing
00:37:45
in the show or in the books that it's like a four month journey
00:37:49
on C OK, so you got four months that you that it took you to get
00:37:55
to Scotland. So this is a year and a almost a
00:37:58
year and a half in the making of you leaving Fraser's Ridge to
00:38:01
get to Scotland. You they probably have been in
00:38:04
Scotland at this point, maybe a few weeks, if that.
00:38:09
And then all of a sudden you get this letter about this person
00:38:13
who yes Lord John is dear to all of y'all.
00:38:16
But is he? Is his nephew that you don't
00:38:18
know dear enough for you to leave your dying brother-in-law
00:38:24
to cut to make another four month journey home?
00:38:27
And you? Is the nephew even going to be
00:38:29
alive four months from then with two musket balls in his?
00:38:33
Stomach so I am assuming I I have to assume this because
00:38:36
stomach injuries are horrible and you you go fast with a
00:38:41
stomach injury to be honest with you.
00:38:43
So that he must have got shot where it really didn't bother
00:38:47
his stomach. But he can't you better off
00:38:50
traveling because at this point infection I mean like.
00:38:57
Unless the musket balls started in a place that wasn't as bad
00:39:01
and because they haven't been able to get out, you know how
00:39:05
sometimes things move around. Right.
00:39:07
And that's what I'm thinking. Like it's not in a place that's
00:39:09
causing damage, damage, but if it don't come out like he can't
00:39:13
really move around. He can't.
00:39:17
Like, yeah, something I'm thinking it's something like.
00:39:19
That Yeah, Yeah. But the thing that kind of
00:39:23
bothers me is because in the books, what prompts Claire to go
00:39:27
back to the States and prompts this whole separation with Jamie
00:39:32
because Jamie in this episode tells Claire he was like, OK, I
00:39:36
can't leave in because Claire is like, well, we can't leave in.
00:39:39
Jamie says I can't but you can't, you can go home and save
00:39:43
him. And Jenny also tells her if you
00:39:46
can't save Ian but you can save this other person then you need
00:39:50
to go and do this because of course that's probably what Ian
00:39:53
would want her to do too. But in the books, Claire leaves
00:39:57
because she gets a visit from Leary, who has received a letter
00:40:03
from Marceline and Ori Christian, their their younger
00:40:08
son at this point. The one who has, the one who has
00:40:13
dwarfism, he has developed some type of infection or something
00:40:19
is going on with his throat because of his condition that's
00:40:21
making it harder and harder for him to breathe as he gets older.
00:40:25
So it's getting to the point where it's starting to endanger
00:40:30
his life. And so Marshall is like my pleas
00:40:34
for the love you bear your grandchildren.
00:40:36
Please go to Claire and ask her to come home so that she can
00:40:41
operate on Ori Christian. So that's what happens in the
00:40:44
book. Leary goes to Claire and
00:40:46
basically says for our grandchild, will you please go?
00:40:49
Will you please go take care of it?
00:40:51
That is the only thing I can see Claire leaving a dying in for.
00:40:56
And then I think what happens is once she gets there, she is the
00:41:01
the information about Laura John's nephew is brought to her
00:41:06
attention and then she takes care of it, but she goes home
00:41:09
for Orry Christian. So that was that's kind of weird
00:41:13
for me in the show because I don't think that Claire would
00:41:17
leave in at this point, especially having been gone for
00:41:21
so light at this point. They when they left to go get
00:41:24
the. The French gold from Silky
00:41:26
Island and Ian was kidnapped. This has been almost 10 years
00:41:30
now that they've been gone. So I, I just, I think I, I do
00:41:35
believe she would do it for Lord John to be honest with you and
00:41:40
for his family because of what he has done for her family.
00:41:44
It's just that I don't like the reason like a bullet because by
00:41:51
the time I get there, he may be dead.
00:41:53
Like if you came up with something else that he would
00:41:55
need surgery and he know Claire can do the surgery.
00:41:58
I was OK because she still would have went because it was Lord
00:42:02
John's family. It's important.
00:42:07
So I just don't like the. You know, like what?
00:42:10
How they have, he has a a stomach, he can't travel and all
00:42:14
that stuff. Yeah.
00:42:16
So that's the only thing. So it would have been better
00:42:19
with, you know, Marcy's baby. But whatever, we'll go with it.
00:42:24
Claire's on her way back to her. Way the young age who has to
00:42:27
confess his love 'cause his family says you didn't tell her
00:42:31
you loved her you didn't gave her a dog right that's not the
00:42:35
same I'm. Like but it but.
00:42:37
The but it was the same. But Bug had to tell her that
00:42:40
though. So like she didn't really know
00:42:42
now, but she knew. But he needs to go get.
00:42:46
He needs to go get this woman. He was going to try to send a
00:42:48
letter with Claire to tell Rachel.
00:42:51
I don't know how long I'll be gone.
00:42:53
I can't ask you away from me. His mother tore that letter up.
00:42:56
It was like you need. To stay here, we, we, we're
00:42:59
good. But the thing that kind of, I
00:43:03
won't say necessarily convinced him, but the conversation that
00:43:06
they have, she takes him to the graveyard.
00:43:09
And The thing is at the beginning of the episode, you
00:43:13
know, they always show you a little scene that kind of
00:43:15
relates to the episode. So they showed a gravestone and
00:43:18
all you can see what was ISA and I was like is that Ishabel's
00:43:24
grave. And then you see Jimmy clearing
00:43:28
it off because of course, the the gravestone is kind of
00:43:31
covered with grass and Moss and everything.
00:43:33
So it's current day. So at some point before Jimmy
00:43:36
disappeared, you know, he probably went to the graveyard
00:43:40
and saw it because we know that they go to the graveyard
00:43:42
sometimes. He said that's that's how they
00:43:44
feel close to granddad. And I was just like, that's a
00:43:48
grave for Ishabel. And then I was like, wait, did
00:43:51
they did, did they do that in Scotland?
00:43:53
And that's exactly what they did.
00:43:55
Jenny had one made, they had Ishabel's name on it.
00:43:59
And then they had the words for Beloved daughter written in
00:44:03
Mohawk engraved. And this is where she tells him,
00:44:08
you know, it's it's so that he can have a place to feel close
00:44:13
to her, to visit her whenever he's there.
00:44:15
And she was like, just like, she's always with you.
00:44:19
You are always with us. Go to your young last.
00:44:22
You can live with your Auntie Claire.
00:44:23
And he says, I got to stay with dad for the rest of his life.
00:44:27
And she was like, no, your dad wants you to go and live the
00:44:31
rest of yours. And you need to go tell that
00:44:33
girl you love her right before she before she starts dating
00:44:37
William. I'm just joking.
00:44:39
She's not. Not if Michelle got anything to
00:44:42
say. Well, no, but I mean, I know
00:44:44
they tried to do the little love triangle, but you can tell like,
00:44:46
she really is really, really fond of Ian.
00:44:49
So yeah, yeah, He just needs to confess his confess his love.
00:44:54
However, the bug issue needs to be exterminated.
00:44:57
But see, if she wouldn't go with William, then the bug issue
00:45:00
wouldn't even be a issue. It won't be, but then you won't
00:45:03
have anybody for anybody for life.
00:45:06
He needs somebody. And that's not, that's not
00:45:08
exactly true because even if Rachel ended up with William, he
00:45:12
still knows that Ian loves Rachel.
00:45:14
So he will probably probably go after him.
00:45:17
So but but yeah, also I think with with Ian, I think it's
00:45:24
enough for him that they came and he was able to see him want
00:45:29
his son to sit sitting there and lose and watch him die.
00:45:33
And lose the lose a love after he has already been through.
00:45:37
Even even with even not even thinking about Rachel or not
00:45:41
even bringing her into it, he doesn't want Ian to sit there
00:45:45
and watch him slowly wither away.
00:45:47
Not only because of just the fact that you just don't want
00:45:51
somebody to sit there and watch you die, but also Ian.
00:45:55
We saw it in this episode. He would have a lot of guilt
00:45:57
about it. Right, but his dad would be OK
00:45:59
with him being there, but he don't want him to be there.
00:46:02
And you're holding like you left your life on pause.
00:46:06
It can be different if you had nothing going on.
00:46:08
We can talk about your adventures, you know, with
00:46:12
everything, but you literally have your life on pause.
00:46:15
Like you. You can have a family.
00:46:18
Yeah. So I do need you to go 'cause
00:46:21
time is short so you need to get going.
00:46:24
Yeah, I'm glad that he did tell Ian about Swift is of lizards
00:46:27
though. Yeah, I do.
00:46:28
He did tell his dad that he has a son now I just.
00:46:32
Need him to tell Jimmy. Yeah.
00:46:34
And I think he probably did. We just didn't see that.
00:46:37
I'm really thinking that that was all you think, but it's
00:46:41
going to be later. I think it's going to be later,
00:46:43
but I'm just I'm I'm he needs to tell her.
00:46:46
But I'm glad he told Ian because again, he's going back to
00:46:49
America now with Claire. He probably won't have that
00:46:52
opportunity. And the fact that he was able to
00:46:53
say that to his father's face, like, and sit down face to face,
00:46:57
give him the name, give him the context.
00:46:59
And was like, yeah, tell him about his his Christian name,
00:47:03
Ian James. Yeah.
00:47:05
I just, this episode was so emotional and I was just like, I
00:47:11
feel like Claire's time in Scotland was too short.
00:47:15
But again, like I said, there's so much story.
00:47:18
Yeah, they, they don't have time for that.
00:47:20
Sorry. So.
00:47:21
We have a season and 1/2. I know and Jamie is still there,
00:47:26
so we will still get to see some some.
00:47:28
Scotland content, right? We will.
00:47:30
And we're gateless too, you know, so.
00:47:36
OK, but you know if we see and gave us now, that means we will
00:47:40
also see Dougal because we do know that Graham Mctavish came
00:47:44
back for the back half of season 7.
00:47:47
Now I thought originally it was going to be like just flashbacks
00:47:50
before I read before I read the books.
00:47:52
But no, Roger ended up way. Back.
00:47:58
I'm out of time. Just Allison.
00:48:00
Like he went further back then Claire.
00:48:02
Went right, that's what I'm saying this is like that's what
00:48:05
I'm saying before you think Claire even got there right,
00:48:08
like way before this is I'm so mad.
00:48:11
It's like 3-4 years so. Yeah, it's, it's going to be.
00:48:16
Interesting. And that's why I say when you
00:48:18
come back, let's just say everything gets resolved at home
00:48:22
and you come back and you're like, well, what year is this?
00:48:25
You're like Brianna said. You know what, honey?
00:48:29
It's been about 5I. Don't think that would happen.
00:48:33
No, but I'm just saying that could happen.
00:48:34
I know I'm coming up with scenarios.
00:48:37
It's been about five years. It's been five years.
00:48:39
I'm psyched. Yeah.
00:48:41
I mean, we made it work. We knew you'll come back, but
00:48:44
you know when you will come. Back.
00:48:45
But here's the other thing too. So we were talking about this in
00:48:48
the last episode. Let's say Roger isn't able to
00:48:52
get back if he's stuck in 1939 or whatever, if Brianna decides
00:48:57
to go back to find him and Jim if Jim is even in this time.
00:49:02
What time would she go? Back right because she doesn't
00:49:05
know that he went no. That's what I'm saying.
00:49:07
There's no phone call, no e-mail, no text messages.
00:49:10
You do one person do need to stay put.
00:49:12
But that person who is staying put in waiting you, we don't
00:49:15
know when it is. And no, she's not going to be
00:49:18
remarried. Or absolutely not.
00:49:20
Wait, wait a minute. No, wait a second.
00:49:22
No, she OK. We'll talk about that off.
00:49:24
Oh Lord, no, she ain't. She ain't.
00:49:27
I don't know, but I'm just saying if it's like 10 years
00:49:29
that he still didn't come back. No, OK, she's not going to do it
00:49:33
because look, she she has the example.
00:49:36
She saw what happened with her dad.
00:49:38
Her dad thought her mom was gone, never to see her again.
00:49:41
He got married again. She's probably like she'll do
00:49:43
some. She'll go to the library and do
00:49:44
some research and see if she ever finds.
00:49:48
She, I don't think she would do that.
00:49:50
I don't think she would do that. No, I said go and do research to
00:49:52
see if his name is out. There.
00:49:54
Oh, to see if Rodger's name is out there for 10 years.
00:49:57
No, she. OK, let's try this, everyone.
00:50:00
No, she's not going to remarry, but she will give her a side
00:50:04
piece. All right?
00:50:06
OK, That's all I'm saying, but my whole point.
00:50:11
Is we don't. Know we don't know when they're
00:50:14
traveling in the all this time. So that's all I'm trying to say.
00:50:17
I'm just saying, Jamie, you know, Claire was gone for 20
00:50:20
years and Jamie only did it with Geneva Dunsani.
00:50:26
And that was, that was. Asked.
00:50:29
Of him. Right, right.
00:50:31
Mary McNab. And then, however, if he ever
00:50:35
consummated with Larry or whatever.
00:50:38
But yeah, Jamie was pretty much a monk the whole 20 years that
00:50:43
Claire was gone. And Claire?
00:50:44
Pretty much was too, yeah, to be honest with you.
00:50:48
So, you know, she had a husband. She was just thinking of another
00:50:52
man when she was with her husband so.
00:50:57
I mean, but. Nice clothes.
00:51:00
You never used to do that before.
00:51:02
I'm like, who wants to sit there and be kissing and just looking
00:51:05
all in your face and. She wasn't even trying to open
00:51:07
the eyes. Because.
00:51:09
Because when you open your eyes, you're going to see Blackjack
00:51:12
Randall. When she open her eyes, it's
00:51:14
just not who she going to be with.
00:51:15
We'll be terrible. It's just just.
00:51:17
But I'm just. Saying the more immediate
00:51:19
reaction if I'm kissing you and you look like this man who
00:51:23
tortured me and my husband. But still she she's able to put
00:51:27
peace, put that apart and compartmentalize that she still
00:51:33
and she that's why she should never get mad when he had he had
00:51:35
affairs. That's a whole other
00:51:38
conversation. OK, that's another off.
00:51:40
Which that's a whole other conversation.
00:51:43
Remember, we are going to at some point do a what Frank knew
00:51:46
and we're going to talk about book Frank, but she needs to
00:51:49
read the books first before we can talk about.
00:51:51
What Frank knew. OK, but you know.
00:51:54
So we got we got break. Frank knew.
00:51:56
He, you know, he, Frank knew someone didn't love him, but
00:51:59
that's that he. We can hate on Frank, but Frank
00:52:05
had to be married to someone who just didn't just like Leary.
00:52:08
I. Know who just did not have a
00:52:09
place for him. OK, I know.
00:52:13
OK, I'm just saying whatever. OK so however they they're
00:52:17
getting back to they can go to America.
00:52:21
Yep. Claire's going.
00:52:22
Back to America. And when I say the previews for
00:52:25
the next episode are kind of like, I can't wait to see your
00:52:30
face when certain things come into play if they stick to the
00:52:36
way it's written in the books. But like I said, they they seem
00:52:40
to have been very faithful to the to the books.
00:52:44
At some point they are going to have to diverge because they're
00:52:47
only giving us one more season because book 10 has not been
00:52:51
out. It is not out yet and probably
00:52:53
won't be out for another two or three years.
00:52:55
They're going to have to diverge from some stuff.
00:52:58
They do, and then they got to give us an ending that is.
00:53:01
Not the notebook, no. I'm going to say general enough
00:53:04
where it's not going to be the same as with how the books end,
00:53:10
right? But a good ending for this fan
00:53:14
just has to be a good ending for you, right?
00:53:17
And to honestly, a good ending now is dying.
00:53:20
But I'm not being funny right now.
00:53:22
A good ending is just just a stopping point and like the
00:53:26
stopping point where we know that they would be OK, like
00:53:31
they're out of war. Yeah, issues.
00:53:35
Good point. Jamie is going to like, like
00:53:37
them. We know that right now they are
00:53:39
living in the cabin. She's working on the herbs and
00:53:44
her new book and he's out just building her home and that they
00:53:49
just living and sitting on the porch and and thinking of their
00:53:53
grandkids like, that's the ending.
00:53:55
Yeah. And we know, OK, they're OK.
00:53:58
They're going to be OK. And at some point one of them
00:54:00
will pass away, maybe together, maybe separate.
00:54:03
Yeah, yeah. So I don't know, I think the
00:54:07
next few episodes are going to be very interesting.
00:54:09
I think the story is going to move fairly quickly because they
00:54:12
do have a lot we do. And we were talking about this.
00:54:17
We are so sick of the war stuff, but they got more battles to
00:54:21
come, so we're going to see some more fighting.
00:54:26
But like I was about to say, at some point Jamie is going to be
00:54:30
too old for them to keep calling him because he's with probably
00:54:34
50 he. Should just say I can't see
00:54:39
like. I I mean.
00:54:42
I'm old, right? And in the book he said he had
00:54:46
he missing a finger. Just be like I'm missing a
00:54:48
finger. I can't do nothing.
00:54:49
Yeah, I mean, he's still functional.
00:54:53
That's the one thing about. He needs to act like he's not
00:54:55
functional. That's the problem.
00:54:58
He run around like he in his 20s and he's not.
00:55:04
Right. He needs to be like, look, I'm
00:55:07
too old for this shit. He needs to be like he needs.
00:55:09
To be looking like Ian right now, just be like, I can't go to
00:55:12
war. Not looking like, oh, I'm a good
00:55:16
sniper. I can, you know, run across the
00:55:18
field and like stab like 30 people at one time.
00:55:21
No, you can't do that, right? Oh my gosh.
00:55:25
She's looking at this in the background, the ending where
00:55:28
Roger they're going to visit the her herbalist and she was like
00:55:33
when she watched the episode, she was like, oh shit.
00:55:37
And see, here he go again for the next time, looking at her
00:55:40
like I know you, I know you. But at this point she knows him
00:55:48
as well. I'm I'm still thinking about.
00:55:51
That I'm gonna answer this question, you know.
00:55:53
She I'm still thinking about it, she because she met him before
00:55:57
she went through the stones and she went through the stones and
00:56:00
landed in the 30s like she's at the house.
00:56:03
I think she this is probably right either right before she
00:56:09
met Arthur and married him. I think that's where where she
00:56:13
is in the story, if I remember correctly.
00:56:15
So it wouldn't have been that long ago that she met Rodger and
00:56:20
Brianna in 1969. OK.
00:56:23
All right, so we will see. Did we touch on everything for
00:56:29
this first episode? I think we did.
00:56:31
We did a lot of crying in this episode.
00:56:33
We were just sitting there with our tissues, like and anger.
00:56:39
Yes, I know it'll get better. It'll get better.
00:56:43
I mean, when you see the way they pull the story, if they
00:56:45
follow the books, when you see the way they pull the story, I
00:56:49
think you're going to like what they did.
00:56:51
I will say that I think you, I think you're going to enjoy what
00:56:56
happens in this back half of season 7, even though there will
00:57:02
be some, there will be some heartbreak because of course,
00:57:07
obviously if they're telling us that BN is sick, obviously we're
00:57:11
going to get his death in the in the season.
00:57:13
I don't I mean, even Claire says she doesn't think he has long.
00:57:17
So we're going to get some heartbreak, but there's also
00:57:21
good some really good stuff that's going to happen.
00:57:23
OK, I trust you. I think he's going to be.
00:57:25
I think he's going to be. I trust you.
00:57:29
OK, I will. So, so I guess on that note,
00:57:34
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