#outlander **SPOILER ALERT** We discuss a potentially major book spoiler between the 34:28-39:56 marks. You may want to skip this section if you do not want book spoilers.
Lord John breaks a promise in order to stay alive. Jamie and Claire play host to a dinner of "Who's Who in American History" guests. William receives some surprise guests at the army camp. Claire comes across a surprising soldier in the rebel camp. Jamie begins to prepare his men for battle. William looks to redeem himself. Lord John learns about a plot against his family, from a surprising source. Brianna fiercely defends her family. Jamie and Lord John call a brief truce to save someone dear.
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What's up hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of the Fan Hybrid Podcast. This is Hanukkah and I am here
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with Michelle and we are discussing Outlanders Season 7
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episode 14. You didn't get used to it.
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Yes, yes, feeling Michelle. I'm I'm pretty happy in parts
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and upset in others. I'm very, I'm very upset with
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Jamie. I'm still upset with Jamie you.
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Still upset with him? Yeah, because what didn't help
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in this episode is when we see the first time we see Jamie in
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the episode he handled the chandelier and Lord John Gray's
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home. I'm like what the fuck?
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Can y'all not go look for him? Urgency.
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We don't know if he's alive or dead.
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I don't. Come on.
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And then them having this dinner with everyone there.
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Yeah, it's cool and all, but you need to go be looking for your
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friend. You are so nonchalant.
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I'm gonna say this again with anything.
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This man been taking care of your son.
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He saved you multiple times. He can have one strike, but you
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act like you don't care. I am so bothered by that.
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I am so bothered. OK, I understand if he needed
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time to grieve the first two episodes from finding out his
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wife got married and had sex with a man who don't even want
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her. Right.
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And she don't want him. And you know that.
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Dude, I'm mad. I'm mad.
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He just popped up at your house. You didn't go looking for him.
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Yeah, OK, so that part, I'm mad. So every time Jamie was on the
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screen, I was like, I really don't care for you right now.
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I'm a little upset, yeah. I understand.
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But I'm a little upset. I will say this to kind of take
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up for Jamie a little bit. It's not like he can just up and
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leave right now. Like he's literally, if, if he
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were to leave right now, he would get in trouble.
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He would get in trouble. I do understand that but he not
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even trying to investigate send Ian to go do some spine or
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something to find. Ian is also part of this army.
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I know, but he can say, Ian, when you're on your way home, go
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see if anyone has seen or heard about a man with an eye patch.
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It can't be too difficult. Yeah, but you know what one
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well. You are trying to make excuses
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for you. No, I'm not making it.
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He's. Smiling and laughing, hanging a
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chandelier. I was done.
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I was done. He was trying.
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To repair the man. 'S house, it doesn't matter.
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My thing is, even if you couldn't leave, you can be
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talking to Claire. Like I'm concerned.
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We don't know where he is. Oh, what I did.
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I hope he's alive. Jamie Jamie is 1 to hold the
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grudge. So, so for me, I was like, I
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want the Lord John Grace show. Oh, we're his stepbrother.
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Look, we're his stepbrother now. I was like, OK, I'm ready to
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hear some stories. I want some back stories.
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That's why you need to read the book.
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I'll say I want some tea here. Yeah, and they're definitely
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look, Claire was picking up on that too.
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She was looking like. Personal business.
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Yeah. He's my stepbrother.
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Was my stepbrother. Claire was like, OK, if that's
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what you want. OK.
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He was like, why you doing this? Beautiful eyes, I say, well,
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pump the brakes. When I messed up, though.
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Who touched? You who hurts you?
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A man. Man who?
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He touched me and I'm thinking he don't care about you either.
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Then he couldn't even bother to even ask around for you.
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OK, I'm gonna let it go. You are big mad about that?
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I am I just because normally I just feel like he wouldn't have
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done that. But he would be begrudge when
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he. Would be mad though.
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He would be mad though, but he would be.
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But that motherfucker helped save Claire too.
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I know, I know. See they they making me big mad
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I'm cursing up here because. I can't.
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And that's the crazy thing because we talked about this
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with the episode. Like, does Jamie even realize
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that Claire was about to be arrested and hanged as a spy?
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Because that never came out in the conversation that they
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aired. So it's kind of.
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So Jake clearly to tell him and then we questioned, we going to
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give him the George Washington. You giving him to no one.
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You let him escape, he will let you escape.
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I am still confused about what we're talking about.
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Let me interrupt you has let you escape.
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I know, I know. And we're going to let.
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Him get it? And I'm like, we had this
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conversation about turning him in and him being the prisoner.
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I'm confused. I kinda feel like I don't think
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Jamie would have actually turned him in.
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I think he was just saying that to kind of be like, hard, like,
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yeah, I'm still pissed off at you.
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Like, yeah, I would consider turning you in, but I don't want
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them to hang you as a spy dude. Like, like you said, he's been a
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part of not one but two militias at this point and he's had to
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take the oath so. Who sing was your fault?
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He's like, you're the one who left me, right?
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Like, what did you think I was thinking?
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I was thinking somebody was going to come get me because you
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left me there. So I I believe me.
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I get it. The only only saving grace was
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Jamie did look like, oh, we looked at oh, shoot, I like
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yeah. And that that was the only
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thing, like horrible. Like what Can't.
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Can you do something clear with him?
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That was the only time I saw that he was like, oh, my bad how
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squeaked out he was when Claire had to take the eyeball in her
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hands. And he was just like, you would
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think that he was the one being hurt.
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But yeah, this is what you did, Jamie.
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So, yeah, face it. Face it because this is what you
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did. But like I said, he he holds a
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grudge and he holds especially when it comes to Claire.
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And like I said, I think if it had been anybody else, he
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wouldn't be as mad. But it's the fact that it was
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his best friend, the father of the father of his child.
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It was just too close for him. You had you had two episodes and
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by this third episode you can send, I don't know the the other
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lady of the house to go be looking around something.
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OK, he could have helped me Fig. Cuz let me tell you, missus Fig,
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right? He was my favorite character in
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this episode because when that soldier came through the door
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was looking around the house and she's like, excuse me, who are
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you? And she tells Jamie, she said,
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well, maybe he'll give you some answers cuz he walked past me
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like I wasn't even here. Misses Fig was not having any of
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that. She was like, I don't give a
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good God damn if I'm a black slave, a black serving black,
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whatever. You going to show me some
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respect in this house when the dude was like, yeah, we're going
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to have the dinner here tonight. She said, oh, I hope you, I hope
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you can wear an apron because I got going for you going to come
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help me. And he was just looking at her
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like, I think if Jamie hadn't have been standing there, he
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probably would have ignored her. But the the fact that Jamie came
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and stood right next to her, he was like, yeah, I'm Jennifer
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Frazier. What's going on?
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He was like, oh, Jennifer, you, you saw his demeanor changed.
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This thing, looking at him like this, stupid.
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Little white boy, you bout to come help and then the the happy
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moments is OK, we got Lafayette. But then in my head I'm like,
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but that's not my Lafayette though, but OK.
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I was like, well, I guess I have to go with it.
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But Claire was like, she's like that person who goes and be
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around the stars. You'd be like, this is so cool.
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This is I need Claire. To stop because that's the
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second time that she has said something to George Washington
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that her as a regular person should not know.
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Because way back in season, what was that, Season 3 or Season 4
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when they went to theater, she said something to him about
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something about him cutting down the cherry trees when he was
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little. And he was like, yeah, how did
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you say that? Because that's not a fact that
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no one would really know about him.
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Right. 'Cause he's not President George
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Washington. And then in this one, is it true
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that you originally considered a six pointed start?
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Excuse me, Claire, you got like Roger with the faces.
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Yes, she is with her questions. Oh my gosh.
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But I feel like that when she talked about her family, I don't
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need you to say where you from man 'cause he may know someone
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there. Actually, currently family could
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still be there. Well, remember they said that it
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was distant family. She had never met them before.
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That's what she told column in season 1.
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She said yes, they're distant family from some branch, I guess
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through marriage or whatever she was like, but I I haven't met
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them. So she.
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Would this time she act like it was current and he could
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currently have a cousin there? That's what I'm saying.
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I need you not to talk and stuff, but she was fanboy.
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That's what she was a big fanboy this episode.
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Yeah, yeah, but I need her to stop because she's going to get
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in trouble. Like, even when even when the
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Marquis de Lafayette said his name, her face changed.
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She was like, oh, like she knew him.
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And you saw how he took to her. That dude was crushing on
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Claire. He was like pardon me Moncourt,
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you you calling her the same thing friend, Friendship calling
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chemical and the boys. Wait a minute, how you going to
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call her your heart and her husband sitting right across
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from you? Let me tell you what happened to
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the last dude that fucked with this.
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Clearly. And that was his friend.
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Like a that was his. Friend, you the man Marquis
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with, that's not what you want to mess with.
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You don't want none of Jamie Fraser.
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Your eye gonna be looking this way and then that way.
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Oh, that was so. That was so horrible.
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That was so horrible. That was so horrible.
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Oh, and then then The funny thing, the marquee, why in the
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world is he force feeding these these jellied eels on Claire?
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Did you see Jamie looking at Claire?
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Like you got to eat that? Not me.
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Oh my God. This episode had a lot of funny
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moments. It did had a lot of serious
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moments too, but it had a lot of funny moments.
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I will say the thing for me was at the very beginning of the
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episode you get a flashback of Laura, John and his brother.
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Have I not been saying I wanted how to come back into the show?
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So even though it was a small snippet of him, that gives me
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hope that we will see him a little bit more, especially,
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especially given what we find out about about what's going on
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with Captain Richardson and. Oh yeah, I was like, that's
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horrible. Yeah, but.
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I mean when you go ahead and. Yeah, but he didn't have to.
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He don't have to do that, though.
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This is the second time he was about to do this.
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But see, I mean, we're doing it now currently.
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Yeah, I wondered about that. Well, William.
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William in the swamp, Why would he do that?
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And then when I think it was what?
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The message with this something happened, so it didn't come to
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pass. Right Well, remember the the
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people that William was supposed to be looking for, that he was
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supposed to be given the correspondence to, they were
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actually rebels, but they had moved on.
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So I think those are the people that were supposed to kill him
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the first time. So, you know, he's, he got some
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kind of look, he. Does and he got Look, now when
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the stepbrother gonna bring him bring Lord John the news.
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And I'm glad he was like, well, you can release me.
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Yeah, we'll go save our son. Yeah.
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Yeah, That's that's what I'm gonna do because I've raised
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this little sucker, right. He was a baby.
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Right. And I kind of feel like, you
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know, Jamie is in between a rock and a hard place when it comes
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to that because I understand he has 300 souls under his command.
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I can't believe but just one. But I feel like Lord John, if
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given the same option, probably because he's closer to William.
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He's actually raised William. That's childhood.
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I think Lord John would be like fuck the army, let me go save my
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son. Right, because if that was
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Brianna, what you going to do? What you going to do?
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Absolutely. Right.
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Absolutely. And guess what Claire will be
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saying to you? Leave them.
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They'll be all right. We won the war.
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They'll need you. Save our child.
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But you don't know if anybody in that in in that little.
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I know, I know, but remember we shouldn't be changing anything
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I. Know I.
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Know 'cause he should have been dead anyway a long time ago,
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Jamie, so as. Far as we know, as far as we
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know, but maybe, maybe Jamie was never supposed to be dead.
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So who knows? But OK, so we're let's let's
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talk about the the stepbrother a little bit more.
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Yeah, that was I, I mean, I seriously wanted to be like, can
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we get like a spin off right now?
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Apparently I want to know what is happening.
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So I know that they've talked about doing a Lower John series
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before, and I think before the pandemic or right around the
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pandemic, they kind of squashed it.
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And because if you remember around the pandemic, I don't
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know if you remember this or not, Lord David Berry had
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actually put out an announcement saying that he wasn't coming
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back to Outlander because he didn't think there was anything
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else for his character to do. Because with the pandemic and
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everything, we didn't know what was going to be happening.
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And then of course, we got him back.
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Yay, he's here. We're getting all the good juicy
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parts of the story, or we're about to get all the good juicy
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parts of the story. But in interviews that I've been
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watching over the last couple of weeks, he's actually mentioned
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the Lower John Grace series several times saying that he is
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interested in doing it. He was like, if they find a way
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to do it, I'm in. He was like, I will gladly do
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it. I will gladly, you know, because
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I love this character. And I think I even read an
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interview where Diana said that. It's been brought up before.
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So we don't know. OK hope, because I really would
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love to see a Lord John series. But also we got the books.
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We got the books. You have, you have a book
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because I found one of the Lord John books in the Goodwill for
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you because I already have it. And I was like I said, do I have
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this one? I saw it.
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I said, oh, I know who can have it, Michelle.
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Yes, I have because I guess I was so mad at Jamie.
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I was so in love with Lord John. Greatest episode so.
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Well, I mean, he's hard not to. Like I mean no and he was I I
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liked him and all but I just, I don't know, I have the feels for
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him the last since he got beat up.
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Is he your adult Ian? Like he's the, he's the grown up
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Ian for you. And I feel like he should.
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Have a little bit more respect. I'm just saying, well, this is
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true, It's OK. But I, I yeah, that that scene
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was. It was very charged because from
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the moment he walks in and Lord John hears his voice, he turns
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around. You could feel it.
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Yeah, that was looking like I was like, what?
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What is about to happen here? Like do y'all know?
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And of course now since I'm in the know I've I've been waiting.
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So when he when the marquee introduced him.
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Oh, at I was like, you knew. You knew right then.
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I said, oh, wait, this is about to get really juicy.
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Yeah. So yeah.
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And like I said, Claire pick, she picked up on it.
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And even in the conversation with Jamie when he's telling
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them about William and everything and he was like,
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yeah, last time I saw him was 20 years ago in France when I
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helped him escape and help, helped him be presumed dead,
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blah, blah, blah. And Claire is looking like.
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And then he said, well he is my step brother.
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Claire was like, OK, whatever, That's.
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OK. That's what you want to say.
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I mean, that's what we going to. Go with that's.
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What we going to do? Sure.
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Especially if you think about it, the conversations that she
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and him have had. And this was even before the
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whole thing with Jamie being presumed dead when she was
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treating him for the measles. And he was talking about they
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were talking about love and relationships and how, you know,
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he wasn't free to love who he wanted to love.
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And I think in the bed when after the morning after, she
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asked him if he had ever loved anyone like that.
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And he was like, yes, oh, I think she peed that she's like,
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oh, OK. So yeah, that's going to be an
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interesting story because the way, even though they they have
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changed a lot from the books, I will say there, there are whole
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patches of things that they have kind of taken out because I
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think at this point in the story with where it seems like they're
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going now, especially with the Jane and Fanny stuff, I think at
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that point in the books, if I'm not mistaken, I've only read
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those once and I kind of read through them fast, but I think
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they were in Savannah at that point.
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So they have made their way back down the coast because they were
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trying, they were trying to get back to Fraser's Ridge.
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But yeah, so there's a lot of things that they have changed.
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Like I don't think they would still be in Philadelphia.
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Well, of course, they got to be for the for the battle.
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But some of the events I think are being out of place, which is
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cool because it's not really throwing anything off.
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It's just making me kind of remember, like, OK, so this
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should be coming up. This should be coming up.
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And then of course, because we don't have Ferguson, Marsley,
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I'm having to remove all of that information from my brain
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because that's probably. Yeah, 'cause it's not something
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I'm the same. Because we know they're coming
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back next season, so. But yeah, the the person thing
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is going to be very interesting, especially because one, he's
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he's a rebel too. He's not who he say he is 3
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because of his his connection to Lord John, because now this
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means that Lord John is like intimately connected to not one
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but 2. Rebels.
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Yep. You know, And I don't know if
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that's going to cause him some issues politically because
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people already know that he and Jamie are friends.
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Like, they've made it known. OK, yes, we're friends, but
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we're on opposite sides of the war.
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So they kind of keep their distance, which is good.
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But if the truth about who Percy is ever gets out, that could
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ruin Lord John, especially if he helped him in the way that he
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said he did. If that becomes public
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knowledge, that's going to be a problem for him.
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It is having him there is going to be kind of Lord John's going
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to be on a slippery slope for a minute.
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So but the other interesting people who showed up for this
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dinner. First of all, the fact that
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Claire and Jamie keep getting in the midst in the circle of all
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these famous people. Brianna would be losing her shit
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right now, right? She was in the past.
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She'd be like, wait, I'm sitting at the table with George
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Washington, like. Because that's how clear was.
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That's all I'm saying. But you have.
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To remember, before Brianna became an engineering student,
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she was a history major. Right.
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So they all would have been. They would have told on
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themselves. They probably would have been
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looking at them like if you all shut the fuck up right, we have
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no time for which because. Then sometimes some of the
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things you say was like, did they say that or did you just
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implant that in their head and then they later go and say
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things to people. Right.
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So you got to be careful. You got to be careful.
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OK, so the other interesting person, that damn General Lee.
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Now, I only know of General Lee because of Hamilton, but I
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didn't like him in Hamilton. I don't like him in this.
00:21:43
You can tell he got a chip on his shoulder, you can tell he
00:21:46
got an attitude, and you can tell everybody else at the table
00:21:48
is just about done with him. Yeah, because the margins go
00:21:52
off. Well, it's funny because that
00:21:54
that is when Claire said, well, he ain't really that important.
00:21:58
Right. She was like, I don't, I've
00:22:00
never heard and I've never heard of him so that.
00:22:03
Kind of start. I start laughing.
00:22:05
I'm like, yeah. Why you you sitting here
00:22:09
thinking that you should have been put in command?
00:22:11
Because you have more experience, right?
00:22:13
And the only reason why people know your name is because of a
00:22:16
damn musical. Meanwhile, George Washington,
00:22:20
the inexperienced person, ended up becoming president, the 1st
00:22:23
president of the United States. So that was that was funny.
00:22:28
But I was like, oh, I do not like this dude.
00:22:30
I don't like him. You could tell Jamie didn't like
00:22:33
him when he came. And he was like, yeah, so your,
00:22:36
your battalion will be under my command.
00:22:38
So let's go, let's go talk about Jamie's Life, OK?
00:22:42
You're like, that's OK. Right.
00:22:45
But everybody else is kind of looking at him like, dude, we
00:22:49
don't have time for you. But we'll see how he plays out
00:22:54
in this because we already know what happens.
00:22:55
History tells us what happens with him and the and the battle.
00:22:59
So yeah, I'm just waiting to see how that's.
00:23:02
Going when it happened, that's what we know for sure.
00:23:06
Right, right. OK, so let's move on to one
00:23:13
other thing before we get to the other big thing.
00:23:16
Since they weren't on the screen very often, how you feel about
00:23:20
Miss Miss Rachel having her hair down again in this episode?
00:23:25
You already know, I, I love their scene.
00:23:26
So I, I love miss Rachel. I just love, you know, their
00:23:29
connection and how they just their communication and they're
00:23:35
just great on film. Even though I'm feeling the same
00:23:39
with William and what's her name, Jane.
00:23:44
Jane, I feel the same way. I'm like, can he marry her?
00:23:48
And just, you know, just don't tell people she what she used to
00:23:50
do. I mean, and I know they don't
00:23:53
get together, but I like it. I like it for him.
00:23:57
I feel like that's what he needs in the woman.
00:24:01
I really, I really love this mansion.
00:24:04
Even in even in the books, like I said, in the book, she's a
00:24:07
little bit younger. So it kind of makes sense that
00:24:11
he's like what, once he starts? Like I think The thing is once
00:24:15
he has been with her, you know, of course he was with her in the
00:24:19
brothel. And I think William starts
00:24:22
looking at her as a person and not just a whore in a whore
00:24:25
house. Right.
00:24:26
And it gets to a point where you start to see this tenderness
00:24:30
develop, but also because of her age and because of the way that
00:24:33
she grew up, He's really trying to distance himself because he
00:24:37
doesn't want her thinking that, oh, I just want you for this,
00:24:40
which is kind of the way she's coming across.
00:24:43
Because. She's been in a brothel since
00:24:45
she was 10 years, so she thinks that sex is the way to fix
00:24:49
everything. And William is trying to tell
00:24:51
her, no, that's not what I want you for.
00:24:53
Like, even when she came in and she was like, I'm trying to do
00:24:56
you a kindness. He was like, I don't want it if
00:24:58
you're doing me a kindness, you know?
00:25:00
And I like how he told her, because the other time we did
00:25:03
it, you did it. You wanted it?
00:25:05
Yeah, you wanted it. You don't know what I want,
00:25:08
girl. You wanted to.
00:25:10
He can tell the difference. And he doesn't want it if it's
00:25:13
just for like. Yeah, he wants, he wants that
00:25:17
connection with her. But I like their relationship.
00:25:19
So it was, it was nice seeing the young, the young people.
00:25:23
Yeah, this is the this is the thing that I I really like about
00:25:28
what Fanny is bringing in. I mean, excuse me, not Fanny
00:25:31
Jane, but also Fanny as well bringing into his life.
00:25:35
So as we see, William has a huge chip on his shoulder.
00:25:39
And even in this episode, you know, he's still salty about the
00:25:42
fact that Jamie is his dad. He salty about the fact that a
00:25:46
groom was his dad and not Lord Ellesmere.
00:25:50
So he has that very classist attitude like, oh, you are
00:25:55
beneath me. And I love the fact that Jane is
00:25:59
kind of making him question that because of course everyone,
00:26:05
especially in that time, OK, she's a whore in a whore house.
00:26:08
She has no, she has no value. I mean, she even says as much.
00:26:12
She was like, look, I've never had money.
00:26:14
I don't know how to, I don't know how to buy stuff with
00:26:16
money. She was like, why would I?
00:26:17
I've been in a whore house since I was 10 years old.
00:26:20
The person who was over the whore house, she takes care of
00:26:22
everything. She keeps on my wages for my
00:26:24
care, you know, And, and it's something so foreign to William
00:26:29
because he takes for granted, like, you don't know how to
00:26:32
count money. And I think it's, it's really, I
00:26:37
think it's going to help him kind of in his reconciliation
00:26:42
towards Jamie being his father. Yeah, I I think so too.
00:26:45
The understand that things are not for him.
00:26:49
Things are so like cut and dry, so black and white, and there's
00:26:54
so many grades and people do things for so many different
00:26:57
reasons and sometimes they don't want to do stuff because of what
00:27:00
is happening, but that's the choices that they have.
00:27:02
He'll start realizing like Jamie didn't have a choice in the
00:27:07
matter. And not just in that, but in a
00:27:10
lot of things, the the confession that we get from Jane
00:27:14
about Captain Harkness, the fact that her little sister Fanny,
00:27:18
who let me tell you, you were going to fall in love with that
00:27:22
kid. Because even in the books, I'm
00:27:24
like, if anybody touches Fanny, I'm going to come through the
00:27:27
pages of this book and I'm a whoop some ass.
00:27:29
Like you love this character. And she is so well cast in this,
00:27:33
like so well cast. But you know when when you find
00:27:39
out what happens that Captain Harkness came back to the
00:27:42
brothel and not only was he intent on just buggering whoever
00:27:48
he was going for Fanny, he was going to try and take her maid
00:27:51
ahead. And not just in the regular way
00:27:53
because he's a bit of a sadist. She kills him to protect her
00:27:58
sister and they're on the run. So even with that confession,
00:28:02
when William is listening to what she's saying, for any other
00:28:08
man in that time period, they would listen to it and probably
00:28:13
not be fazed by it. I mean, if you think about what
00:28:16
happened in the village when that other soldier killed that
00:28:19
woman who had, what was it? She had the pox or something and
00:28:24
was the only person who kind of stepped up to try to defend her,
00:28:28
to try to save her. Most of the man would listen to
00:28:31
Fanny's story about what Harkness was going to do.
00:28:33
And they're going to be like, well, you work in a whorehouse.
00:28:35
That's what you're supposed to expect, you know?
00:28:38
But William, the whole time she was talking to him, you can see
00:28:42
his facial expression. You can see how disgusted he
00:28:44
was. You can see how pissed he was.
00:28:46
And I think if Harkness has still been alive, William
00:28:48
probably would have went to look for him.
00:28:51
But of course, he's not. And, you know, Jane had to take
00:28:55
care of him. And she was like, OK, sorry, you
00:28:56
didn't turn me into the magistrate.
00:28:58
He was like, no, I wouldn't do that.
00:29:00
And she says, why not? He was like, I don't know, but I
00:29:02
wouldn't do that. I think again, she's going to
00:29:05
make him question certain things because the fact that the
00:29:08
limited information that you have about James Fraser is that
00:29:12
he's a traitor, he's a rebel and he was a groom that you knew
00:29:17
growing up. That's it.
00:29:19
And you're basing all of your animosity on this fact, plus the
00:29:24
fact that you have not found out that he that he fired you.
00:29:28
But. Jamie, in a lot of his
00:29:30
circumstances, didn't have a choice either.
00:29:34
He had to do what he had to do to save other people.
00:29:37
And I'm waiting for. Him and we tell.
00:29:40
Him that Jamie was not just a groom, he was actually the Laird
00:29:44
of a whole estate before and English came in and wiped out
00:29:49
the Highland culture. And, and everything that he
00:29:53
does, he's an honorable man like your father.
00:29:56
So you you have to you need to see that.
00:29:59
But I mean, it's, it's understandable that he hasn't
00:30:02
seen it yet because he has a really.
00:30:03
Oh. No, I'm just saying this will
00:30:04
get him to open his eyes because then you can see the things in
00:30:07
between. Yeah, I may be a traitor, but do
00:30:10
you have you paid attention how I protect everyone who is around
00:30:13
me and I stand with honor while some of these other people are
00:30:16
just all over the place. Right, right, right.
00:30:20
You know, and not judge me from like, even with Jane, she
00:30:25
doesn't want you to judge her because she worked at a whore
00:30:27
house. That's not who she is, so I
00:30:31
think it will. She in her mind, that's what she
00:30:34
is, but he's trying to get her. Well, right, to see that it's
00:30:38
different. That that she, that was not her
00:30:40
only worth. Yeah, so.
00:30:42
Yeah, and she will soon realize that too.
00:30:44
Honey, you got to learn how to wash them clothes.
00:30:46
What would you think you going to do?
00:30:48
You can't cook. No, but she she really thought
00:30:52
she was going to sleep her way through the.
00:30:53
Camp, I mean, she No, no, no, ma'am, we're not going to do
00:30:55
that. We're not going to do that
00:30:57
especially. We're going to watch them.
00:30:58
You coming to me? For for protection, right?
00:31:01
I'm. I'm not.
00:31:01
Going to lay up on the No absolutely not.
00:31:04
I'm not going to be your pimp, right?
00:31:10
So I, I think the pairing is very good for him.
00:31:13
I don't know if it will progress because I feel like he's too
00:31:18
much of A gentleman to take advantage of the situation.
00:31:22
And even though she is, she's obviously hot and heavy for him,
00:31:29
he's not going to take advantage of that situation.
00:31:32
You know, but I, I, I, I like them together.
00:31:35
I. Do I do?
00:31:37
Because you see. So now if he isn't with someone
00:31:39
else, I don't even know. I don't even know how to.
00:31:44
I don't even know what to do. You see the softness come out of
00:31:47
him. With her and it's so I'm going
00:31:50
to ask a question later after this episode.
00:31:52
And I'm not going to tell you I'm not telling.
00:31:54
You're going to tell me I just need yes or no I'm.
00:31:57
Not no, because I think I think you'll you'll get some more
00:32:03
information in the next two episodes.
00:32:06
If the story is going where I think it's going to go, then
00:32:09
you'll get some more information in the next two episodes.
00:32:12
You'll they might even give some of James back story because we
00:32:16
do learn a little bit of their back story and in the book, you
00:32:21
know, as far as like how they. OK, so my SO in my brain, I can
00:32:25
only. I can only.
00:32:26
OK, I'll tell you what. I can imagine what happened.
00:32:31
Oh, you got. Oh, you got OK?
00:32:33
Yeah. Yeah, so.
00:32:35
But yeah, no, I'm not telling you nothing.
00:32:37
So anyway, let's see, what else do we have to talk about?
00:32:42
Oh, let's talk about. Let's talk about Rambo Bri.
00:32:47
I love it when she I was like, but honey, you know how to shoot
00:32:51
for real. She know how to shoot.
00:32:54
She really know how to shoot. Oh yeah, I know how she
00:32:56
motherfucking missed. Does she know how to sleeping on
00:32:58
purpose? OK, I was hoping so, but you
00:33:01
know, I can see that you don't want to scare them.
00:33:03
You don't. Want to commit murder in front
00:33:04
of your children? No you don't, because I'm like,
00:33:07
girl, you really. You a sniper?
00:33:11
Right. So a shot good.
00:33:16
Right. I was like, yeah.
00:33:18
But I love it though, because she pulled that out.
00:33:19
She came out of those woods. She was like I'm and was
00:33:24
shooting. Y'all, y'all with the wrong Mama
00:33:27
bear She was. But let me ask you a question,
00:33:32
and this is going to be a little bit spoilery for something that
00:33:35
might come up later on. So you notice when she's sitting
00:33:39
there, she's fighting the guy who's trying to get into the
00:33:42
van. She punches him in the face.
00:33:44
Right. She partially takes his mask off
00:33:46
and then when he falls to the ground you can see a little bit
00:33:49
of his face. Did he look familiar to you?
00:33:52
No. And the other one didn't either.
00:33:53
And I'm like, I'm supposed to know this?
00:33:59
No, because I looked at their faces and and I was like, she
00:34:04
told me I should know. And I'm like, I don't know you.
00:34:07
Want me to tell you now? You want me to tell you ask?
00:34:09
But not the one that the one who still have his mask on.
00:34:13
No, the one who has his mask off, when, when Rob Cameron got
00:34:17
there, he turned around, he called.
00:34:20
Right. And his whole mask is off, Yes.
00:34:22
I don't remember that guy. Where is he from?
00:34:25
Where is he from? This is spoilery, just in case
00:34:30
anybody it. Don't have to be spoiled because
00:34:33
he hasn't been in other episodes.
00:34:35
He's in. He's in this episode.
00:34:38
So we should know, hold on, hold on, pump the brakes, pump the
00:34:43
brakes. Who can?
00:34:44
You alert. If you don't want to be spoiled,
00:34:47
you're going to skip the next maybe 2 minutes.
00:34:49
OK, and 54321. OK, so here's my choices here he
00:34:56
was in this episode. Is it stepbrother?
00:35:00
Nope. OK, who else was it he?
00:35:03
Does wear a wig though. It's not the one of the one
00:35:08
people at the George Washington table, is it?
00:35:11
OK. It ain't one that William went
00:35:14
to their camp. You're close.
00:35:17
So was that the camp? Nope.
00:35:20
Is it Richardson? Yeah.
00:35:23
Well, how did Richardson become a traveler?
00:35:25
So that's the thing, even in the books we don't know yet.
00:35:29
We do not. We do find out in the books that
00:35:32
he is a traveler. It's, I think it's in the last
00:35:37
book, Go Tell the Bees. But we do find out that he is a
00:35:40
traveller. We find out why he's back in the
00:35:43
past. But it's it's interesting
00:35:47
because here I think the way that they did it in this
00:35:50
particular episode, because we've never seen his character
00:35:55
in the 1980s up until now. So I think when Rob Cameron
00:35:59
called his name Callahan, that was to let book readers know,
00:36:02
OK, this is who this is supposed to be.
00:36:04
Because in the books, Mike Callahan is a what is he a
00:36:13
architect or something? But he comes out because on
00:36:17
Lolly Brock's property, there is a structure that Rodger and
00:36:23
Brianna are trying to figure out what it is.
00:36:25
And it turns out it's an old church that was built on the
00:36:28
grounds. So Mike Callahan is a architect.
00:36:31
I think if he comes out and kind of looks at it, he, he
00:36:34
specializes in old 17th and 18th century buildings and he comes
00:36:40
out and he looks at it, he tells them what it is and like
00:36:43
develops a really, really nice rapport with them.
00:36:46
So when it's revealed that he's one of Rob Cameron's cronies in
00:36:51
the book, I'm looking at the book and I'm cussing this man
00:36:54
out like I knew him. So I think that was a that was
00:36:58
to let the book readers know, OK, yes, this is this is him.
00:37:02
So now we got to try and figure out, OK, so why is one, why is
00:37:08
he in the past or why is he in the future?
00:37:10
Because we don't know. He may have been in the past and
00:37:12
jumped to the future. We don't know.
00:37:16
And why is he so focused on the Gray family, You know, focusing
00:37:21
on them as far as trying to discredit how trying to
00:37:25
discredit Lord John, using William as political pawn.
00:37:30
So it's like that opens up a whole lot of other questions.
00:37:34
But it was just so interesting because when you see his face
00:37:37
and he does this and he looks up, you can if you pay really
00:37:41
pay attention to his face, because they don't show his
00:37:44
whole face on purpose. And I think it's for the.
00:37:48
OK so to me I feel like I saw his whole face but I was like I
00:37:50
can't picture. You see it, but it's kind of at
00:37:55
an angle. So it's like you're looking like
00:37:57
this and if you not, if you really not for because I'm
00:38:00
looking at it right. Now, and the thing about it is
00:38:02
also like this has been in, he had been on camera a lot, right?
00:38:09
So you have his face like memorized.
00:38:12
We talk about him, but not on camera a lot.
00:38:15
But it's so funny. So that's on purpose.
00:38:17
Because then you wouldn't, you wouldn't put them together.
00:38:20
Right. Which is crazy because in this
00:38:22
episode, like the face is the same, his hair is even almost
00:38:27
the same color except for in the past he has it in the little wig
00:38:32
with the curly cues and in this one his hair is short and it's
00:38:35
sticking up at the end because he literally just.
00:38:38
Had the mask on. The mask on.
00:38:40
So yeah, I thought that was really interesting.
00:38:42
I was like, I'm waiting for Michelle to text me.
00:38:44
I'm waiting for her to text me. And when you didn't text
00:38:46
message, she didn't see it. She didn't see it.
00:38:48
Yeah, I didn't. I was.
00:38:50
But I was like, OK, she gonna have to tell me, 'cause I really
00:38:52
don't know who this is. I really don't be.
00:38:56
Interesting to see what they do with him in this story and.
00:39:02
How that's going to move forward it, yeah.
00:39:04
And how he ends up with it is quite interesting how that
00:39:09
connection, right, because. My it.
00:39:13
Still make me wreck my brain on that one.
00:39:15
So I'm like, OK, that ain't the person I would think it would
00:39:18
be, OK. Yeah, because it really does
00:39:20
make you think now, like, OK, so in the past, does he know about
00:39:28
like, did he come from the future and go back to the past
00:39:31
that he knows, like who Jamie is?
00:39:34
Does he know who William is, like as far as his relation to
00:39:39
Tabri? Or did he go from the past to
00:39:42
the future? So it's like one of those things
00:39:44
where it's like, OK, we're going to have to figure it out.
00:39:47
We're going to have to figure it out.
00:39:48
But I just thought it was very interesting that they did put
00:39:51
them in there. And then it's like literally in
00:39:54
the same episode. But if you don't know it, like
00:39:57
if I hadn't read the books and knew that's who it was, I don't
00:40:01
think I would have caught it either.
00:40:02
I probably would have looked at him like, wow, his face looks
00:40:05
familiar. But it probably would have taken
00:40:07
me several times to watch the episode before I got it.
00:40:11
But I think they did it really clever.
00:40:13
But yeah, Mama Bear Bri, don't fuck with her.
00:40:18
But she's talking about going to Roger.
00:40:23
Which is going to be a problem because Roger ain't where she
00:40:26
think he is. So they're going to have to
00:40:35
figure something out. Roger He.
00:40:38
Needs a man. I did.
00:40:40
I did see a preview, but I saw a picture from when the episode
00:40:45
went off on Stars and they had like, oh, the next episode.
00:40:49
I just know that the next episode does have Rodger in it.
00:40:51
It does. So I know I will get a little
00:40:54
bit more information. Yeah, but he needs to.
00:40:58
He needs to go ahead because she doesn't know where he is, but he
00:41:01
knows exactly where she is, so he needs to hurry up and trace
00:41:05
his ass back through the stones. The thing about it is he could
00:41:09
come home and be like, this is what I found.
00:41:13
Let me go out again checking in. So like come back and check in.
00:41:17
Yeah, but you got to remember they don't know how often you
00:41:20
can go through and what kind, what it does to your body and
00:41:23
everything. We don't have time for that.
00:41:25
Our kids been kidnapped, so you got to do what you got to do.
00:41:28
I know, but you should check in because you don't know if your
00:41:31
son went back through the stones and he knew his way back he had
00:41:36
a stone. So you would like to go home and
00:41:38
just to check in. That he didn't think Jimmy came
00:41:42
through the stones. So we need to go home.
00:41:45
Yeah, yeah. So question, maybe it's just me.
00:41:50
Lieutenant Bixby, does he look like the same dude that was
00:41:54
standing next to William and got shot in the head?
00:41:57
Sandy, does he, Does that look like the same person, the same
00:42:01
actor? Because I was like, didn't I
00:42:03
just see you die for you? Episodes.
00:42:06
No, but I have to look again. I I, I feel like it's the same
00:42:13
actor, but when I went to go look look it up at IMDb.
00:42:17
Yeah, they shouldn't be. As I said, that would be a huge.
00:42:21
I wouldn't be the. First time they've they've used
00:42:25
an actor in different roles because they've done it before,
00:42:28
but it wasn't anybody. I think that was like really,
00:42:31
really prominent, like they had met an actor that played a a
00:42:34
named part, but then they came back and they did it like a
00:42:37
background part or something like that.
00:42:39
So I wouldn't be surprised. But it is just so strange to me
00:42:43
because I'm like, he looks exactly like him.
00:42:46
But I haven't had a chance to go back at that other episode and
00:42:49
look so. But yeah, this episode, if you
00:42:59
think there was a lot going on in this one, just wait till the
00:43:01
next one. I'm, I'm just, I'm, I'm ready.
00:43:05
I'm ready whenever you are to talk about the next episode
00:43:07
because you're going to have a lot to say.
00:43:10
I was sitting there watching that episode, like.
00:43:14
OK, yeah. But did we miss anything?
00:43:22
I think. And we got Lord John.
00:43:24
We got the stepbrother, We got the dinner, we got Ian and
00:43:27
Rachel. And we have we have Jamie and
00:43:34
not really caring about his friends.
00:43:37
We're not, we're, we're gonna give him, we're gonna give him
00:43:40
until next episode, see how he does 'cause you know when, when
00:43:45
the man goes and he saves your son, there's got to be a little
00:43:50
forgiveness in that, just a little bit.
00:43:55
If not, then yeah, I'm gonna be like yeah, I need you to, I'm
00:43:58
gonna need you to handle that. Tell Jamie he's being
00:44:02
unreasonable. Get in his ass and and tell him
00:44:05
to go kiss and make up cuz damn. Right, but you know, maybe he
00:44:12
will when he brings home his son, like go get our son.
00:44:16
Whatever, right. Well, you glad I'd you know was
00:44:20
found because who's going to go get our son?
00:44:24
I feel so bad for William. William, you know what I really
00:44:27
do. I'm at this point I'm like he's
00:44:30
like naive and y'all keep throwing him in situations and
00:44:34
now he about to be captured and may be tortured until y'all get
00:44:37
there. Right.
00:44:39
Or William I. Know I know y'all didn't bring
00:44:43
him up for this. Cruel, cruel world, right?
00:44:45
You didn't. Look in that in that case, he
00:44:48
needed Jamie as his daddy. Because you can't.
00:44:52
Because it's always an issue. So you've got to.
00:44:55
Learn how to survive. Yes, there's only so many things
00:44:59
that you can learn from privilege.
00:45:01
Yeah. Revival in the woods.
00:45:03
Right. A group of Hessians have been
00:45:06
told to kill you is not. One of them so friendly you want
00:45:11
to stay for coffee. Yay.
00:45:15
Well, you should also stay for dinner.
00:45:18
Because he's thinking these are his allies.
00:45:21
Yeah, they they are not for him. No, I would say this to Claire.
00:45:29
So funny when she was like, well, you know, Percy was right
00:45:34
about one thing. Richardson is a spy in a
00:45:36
turncoat. He told me as much as dinner and
00:45:39
Lord John was like, and you didn't say anything to me.
00:45:42
She said, well, you know, we kind of are on the same side and
00:45:46
I think I just said I wouldn't. Spy on you.
00:45:49
They they had that conversation about the dinner and Jamie is
00:45:52
just looking at them like, OK, how long am I going to let this
00:45:54
conversation going? OK, that's enough.
00:45:56
I got 300 minutes. Under my control.
00:45:58
He was like enough of this, enough of y'all talking about
00:46:01
the time when I wasn't here because that's going to lead to
00:46:03
other conversations and we don't whatever.
00:46:06
He's already got damaged so OK, I'm telling you that I was so
00:46:12
disgusting looking. It wasn't moving because even
00:46:16
when he turned to look at Jamie, like the I was in like because
00:46:20
he was turning to look at Jamie and the other, I was straight at
00:46:23
the camera. You can see how Jamie would move
00:46:25
like oh. That's what I did.
00:46:29
Like it ain't even moving. Oops, didn't mean it.
00:46:34
Well, yes, I did, but I didn't. That's OK, They don't get it
00:46:40
together. Honey, I'm like, that ain't
00:46:44
going to be sticky shit. I know.
00:46:46
Right. And she was like, it's going to
00:46:48
help the eyeball move and, and, and reading it in the books when
00:46:52
he's talking about it, I was just like.
00:46:55
Oh no. Oh gosh, no.
00:46:58
Sticky, but OK, so the takeaways from this episode are Jamie
00:47:04
needs to grow up. Yeah, needs to.
00:47:09
William needs to take the Rose colored glasses off.
00:47:13
Fanny is the sweetest thing alive.
00:47:20
Jane is, let me tell you. Jane.
00:47:29
For someone who seems to be so, and I don't even want to.
00:47:32
I don't even want to say spoiled because that's not the word I'm
00:47:36
I'm looking for someone who is so jaded.
00:47:38
That's the word I'm looking for. For someone who is so jaded, she
00:47:42
still seems to have a bit of innocence about her that I like.
00:47:49
Yeah. And not necessarily.
00:47:50
Maybe not even innocence, a little bit of naivete, but just,
00:47:56
I don't know, there's something I feel like that's wholesome
00:47:59
about her, despite her upbringing and what she's had to
00:48:03
go through. And you can really see it with
00:48:06
her sister. And I love it because she was
00:48:10
like, OK, yeah, you can do whatever you want to me, but oh,
00:48:13
you want to try and touch my, my sister and I'm, I'm, I'm about
00:48:16
to put a knife in your neck. Yeah, we're not going to do
00:48:19
that. Right, but did you see the Did
00:48:22
you see the way William looked when she said Nobody?
00:48:26
Nobody thought. Nobody had a second thought when
00:48:30
Fanny started screaming, Knowing what Harkness was up to.
00:48:33
William was like, God, like how? And that's the question I have
00:48:40
with stuff like that. I mean, I understand the girls
00:48:42
who are in the house. They're probably used to it
00:48:45
because again, she's been there since she was 10 and we're
00:48:47
telling how long some of the other girls have been there.
00:48:50
And this is what you're used to. But the fact that women of a, a
00:48:56
woman of all people was the one who was sitting there pimping
00:48:59
the girls, I just, oh, I have a problem with that.
00:49:02
But whole other time, 200 years ago, I'm glad in those times
00:49:07
because I might be the same stabbing folks in the neck.
00:49:12
So next, the newlyweds, our newly wedding.
00:49:15
They are and they're being so sweet about it.
00:49:18
And I love, I love the fact that Ian was like he he felt his
00:49:21
dad's presents with him. He said, I thought he was
00:49:25
telling me that I was going to die on the battlefield.
00:49:27
But then you walked in the door. And I take that as a very good
00:49:29
sign because literally as soon as he said, have you come to
00:49:32
give me bad news? Rachel walks through.
00:49:34
I was like, no, he's telling you you're going to be all right.
00:49:37
Right. I was like, we're, we're not
00:49:38
doing that. We were, we were done with that,
00:49:41
with bad news. No, no Sir.
00:49:43
We've had enough, had enough. So now I just need Brianna to,
00:49:48
like I said, if she's going to go find Rodger, I need her to
00:49:54
figure something out. Or I need Rodger to get back
00:49:56
before she goes through the stones.
00:49:58
And then when he comes back, maybe he can kick Rob Cameron's
00:50:02
ass once or twice. Oh, I want her to do it.
00:50:06
Like get that damn shotgun, start shooting off toes and
00:50:09
stuff. Torture.
00:50:11
I mean, pack your kids somewhere.
00:50:12
I need, I need you to because she know how to do it.
00:50:16
I know. We know.
00:50:17
She knows how to do it. Do you know who?
00:50:19
Her father. Is I know because that's how she
00:50:21
was when she she was in the woods like a with a shotgun and
00:50:25
then that man come up, she jumping out of there and start
00:50:28
shooting at the door and shooting at them to the van.
00:50:31
Why are y'all coming back here? And then when Fiona was like
00:50:34
that, Rob got showed up at our house.
00:50:35
How do you know where you? Stay at.
00:50:39
So Ryan Cameron been doing some digging.
00:50:42
They did. They have research, so they have
00:50:44
research. Oh, I know.
00:50:45
And he probably knows Rodger used to used to work at the, I
00:50:49
mean used to live at the, the, the reverend's old house and
00:50:55
that's where Fiona stays now. So he probably was checking
00:50:59
like, OK, well where would she take the kids?
00:51:01
Yeah, where would she take the kids?
00:51:02
And they don't have any other family, right?
00:51:05
So. Yeah, but yeah, but that's a
00:51:08
that's very condensed from the books because in the books like
00:51:13
she don't call the police, Jim and Rob cameras face them.
00:51:16
Been on the news like everything like it was it was huge.
00:51:21
So yeah. And that America's Most Wanted.
00:51:26
Adam's missing. Rob should be on the on.
00:51:30
On the news. Yeah.
00:51:32
Jim should be on the milk cart. Come on now.
00:51:33
This is what the time period is. Yeah.
00:51:37
But it's also kind of hard when when you're telling people your
00:51:39
husband's in Boston, but. Yeah, that's true.
00:51:42
Too, but you can't get a hold of.
00:51:43
But you can't. Get a hold of them.
00:51:45
There ain't no phone to call him.
00:51:46
He calls you. Yeah, like Ernie.
00:51:49
Ernie was like, yeah, I know Rodgers in Boston, but maybe
00:51:52
it's time for you to take a trip.
00:51:54
Ernie is like, look, I was signing up, signing my family up
00:51:58
for danger. Was not on my bingo card today.
00:52:01
I need you and your kids to go somewhere.
00:52:04
So because Ernie don't look like he can do too much.
00:52:09
Fiona. Probably Fiona can.
00:52:12
But Ernie? Yeah.
00:52:14
Ernie. Ernie.
00:52:14
Is that straight vanilla. I don't know nothing about no
00:52:17
fairies. I don't know nothing about no
00:52:19
standing stones, nothing. What is going on?
00:52:22
Why is this man after your children?
00:52:25
I need you to go find your husband because I'm done.
00:52:31
He can't look. He can't even figure out what's
00:52:33
wrong with the engine of his car.
00:52:34
Got Brianna out there with Fiona and the flashlight.
00:52:38
Why he in the car? Ernie, you ain't.
00:52:42
Good. She's like, try it now.
00:52:44
I was like, Oh my goodness, that's why I'm out.
00:52:49
So I need, I don't need Rodger to come saving the day.
00:52:52
Rihanna got this. Yeah, but got it.
00:52:56
But I will say. That they need to die.
00:52:59
I'm sorry. No, no, I get they don't they
00:53:03
need to be arrested. What?
00:53:05
Is that going to do? Did you see the police officers
00:53:08
that came to? No, they really don't care.
00:53:10
They don't they. Are incompetent so yeah, we're
00:53:14
not we're not going to leave this up to the police.
00:53:16
They going to figure it out. They going to figure it out, But
00:53:22
do you realize we only have two more episodes before we're in
00:53:25
another drought Lander? How did it go by?
00:53:29
So fast. It did, it did.
00:53:32
And they gave a lot of information.
00:53:35
So I don't even know how they're going to do the next season,
00:53:39
which they're done filming. So OK, what month is it?
00:53:46
January. OK.
00:53:47
So hopefully. August, I'm gonna be honest.
00:53:54
You don't think it is till 26? I think if we get it, we might
00:53:58
get it either November, December or we'll get it in January,
00:54:02
February because I think I have heard that they are planning to
00:54:07
release blood of my blood in between season 7 and Season 8.
00:54:13
OK. So well, this season's by the
00:54:16
end before February, so the the other show can come on in March
00:54:21
and we still need something in November.
00:54:23
I think they're still doing post production because they just
00:54:26
finished filming in like. I think October or November
00:54:29
maybe. Yes, but my other show, Stranger
00:54:32
Things, which has CGI, is going to be later on this summer.
00:54:37
So of course, Outlander, hello. It ain't much CGI should be able
00:54:43
to come back to you. Yeah, same time.
00:54:47
OK, They both finished wrapping up.
00:54:49
OK. OK, we got.
00:54:51
You So what we waiting on? I know, but here's the
00:54:55
interesting thing about Blood of my blood.
00:54:56
And somehow I missed this information when it when they
00:55:00
announced it and when it cast. It's not only dealing with
00:55:04
Jamie's parents, we are getting Claire's parents as well.
00:55:08
Yeah, because on one of the pictures that you even sent me
00:55:11
has both. Who's playing who?
00:55:13
Yeah. But see, that's the thing.
00:55:15
I it like completely slipped my mind because I was looking at
00:55:19
the name because I don't, I don't think we ever find out
00:55:21
Claire's parents names in the book, at least not that I can
00:55:26
recall. So seeing the names, it just
00:55:29
kind of went over. I guess I figured that because
00:55:31
of the how they had them both, like side by side, I was
00:55:35
thinking his parents, her parents, yeah.
00:55:37
So that's going to be interesting because we don't
00:55:40
know a lot about Claire's family, a background except for
00:55:43
Uncle Lam. Right.
00:55:45
And that's why I was figured we'll figure out that they were
00:55:47
travellers that before they get trapped in the stones.
00:55:51
That it could be. I guess we'll see.
00:55:55
Yeah. But do you have anything else to
00:55:58
say about this episode? And please, anything other than
00:56:02
Jamie? Need to get a grip?
00:56:05
No, that's it. OK, so we're going to keep our
00:56:10
fingers crossed that Jamie, shall we say, before the end of
00:56:16
the season, or I mean, it's only two more episodes.
00:56:19
So either next episode or the episode after that, we we going
00:56:22
to hope that Jamie comes to a senses and even if they're not
00:56:28
friends again, we we just need a truce.
00:56:31
We just need, we just need it to be some peace cause y'all got
00:56:36
some y'all, y'all got other stuff y'all got to worry about.
00:56:38
Y'all got a battle coming up and you got a son who's confused and
00:56:43
angry and dealing with his own stuff that y'all need to kind of
00:56:47
rally together and, and help, you know, resolve.
00:56:53
So let's hope that that gets fixed before the end of the
00:56:58
season. Yeah.
00:57:00
Is that it? OK.
00:57:01
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