#outlander #bloodofmyblood Julia finds a new ally in her attempts to keep Lord Lovat at bay. Murtaugh confronts Brian about his betrayal. Henry's plans to try to get back to his family are thwarted by his duty to the Grants. Ellen finds herself in unexpected company when she tries to pull Dougal from a Jacobite meeting. Lord Lovat plots to make sure Julia's baby is legitimized. Ellen's secret is threatened when the Grants question a recent accusation. Julia stumbles upon a letter that gives her hope.
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What's up, hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast. This is Hanukkah and I'm here
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with Dina and we are discussing episode 7 of Outlander, Blood of
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My blood. And Michelle is not here with us
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because she is traipsing across the Caribbean Sea.
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And I feel really bad because this I think, is an episode she
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really would have wanted to talk about because we do get some
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Brian and Murtha stuff going on. And we also get some weird stuff
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with Julia and Miss Porter. So OK, let's get into it.
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Where do you want to start? Oh my gosh, I just thought from
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the get go it was like, oh, this is what we've been waiting for.
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This is it Because it, you know, it starts off kind of, if I
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remember correctly. Oh no, my brain.
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So it starts off kind of good, like, you know, with Leathers
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and all the stuff that happened with the baby getting baptized
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and all this stuff and Julia being afraid that he was going
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to try to force the actual wedding ceremony and all this
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stuff. But her and Davina Porter just
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kind of bonding over the fact that, you know, hey, you saved
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your baby and it and it appears that Davina knows the whole
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truth now because she actually said something about the baby
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and why Julia did what she did. Because she kind of alluded to
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her knowing that the fat baby's father was out there.
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And now Julia was still looking for the father.
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And it didn't give her a bad taste in her mouth for what I
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could tell. And I was like, oh, are we on
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the same side? Then right, that's what I was
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looking at. I was like, oh, wait a minute.
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I actually think I like them being friends.
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The whole, the whole joke with the, with the chase Berry and
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the, the the flower. I was like, oh, this is OK.
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This is going to be a friendship I think I can get down with
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because like you said, I I felt the same way.
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I was like, OK, probably after all of the trauma of that birth,
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Julia probably finally came clean with her.
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Like, look, I never meant to hurt you.
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I never meant to hurt Brian. I just had to protect my baby,
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This may be the last piece of
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him I have in the world. I've got to protect him.
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Because even Miss Porter said something about, you know, you
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wanting to use Lovett's name to protect your child because at
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the beginning they are at the curt and it's because they're
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about to baptize the baby. But again, Lord Lovett told the
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other midwives when they left. OK, well you need to spread the
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word that we are married and and girl, let me tell you, when
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these women walked into the Kirk and they were all nice and
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polite to Miss Porter. Congratulations on the birth of
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the Lord of the Laird's Band and of Mistress phrase, I mean Miss
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Mistress Fraser, blah blah blah. Blah, I was.
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Like really? How nice to see you again, Skip.
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Yeah, you know what? These women.
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But I love that they're they're just known to be.
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The gossips, though, that's the thing that makes me laugh.
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He's like, what did the gossip say?
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Like. They already know.
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Right. But these are also the ones who
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were in the house. These are the ones who were
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calling the baby the devil spawn devil.
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They were trying to make Jordan lose the baby.
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I was, I was just like, OK. But Miss Porter, she handled,
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she handled it like AG. She was just like, thank you.
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And all the time she's sitting there, like I said, going back
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and forth with Julia, that actually made me feel good
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because I think now that they understand each other, like I'm
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sure Julia understood it was never a personal thing in that
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sense, but she was trying to protect her child and his
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possible inheritance or whatever the case may be.
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And I think Julia is just like, I don't want any of that.
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I just want the name. I just need the protection.
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And now they're on the same accord.
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And of course, Brian is also there in the mix.
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Again, I'm loving the relationship with Julia and
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Brian. I know.
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I love it. It's like, so it's so pure and
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wholesome. In the midst of all this, this
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is that they're like, they're very protective of each other.
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And I, I really do feel like it's, it's almost like a sibling
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relationship, which I'm just like, I wish Claire and Jamie
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could know how much, how, how close, how.
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Tight they were, yeah. I I, I hope that that can be a
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thing later on, that they can find out.
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But the fact that he's so protective of her, yeah, I love
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it. I love.
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It and he just did that whole thing where he basically well,
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you know, as much as he could bless and baptize the baby so
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the baby can have the name, but she wanted a baby like just the
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the things he might not really clearly understand like, you
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know he but he's so sweet. He just like this is what her
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wishes are, you know, she wants her baby to have the name that
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she wants to give her baby and I just love that he understands he
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doesn't he's not you know, question it.
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I mean, you know, he asked some questions, but like, overall, he
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don't question her, you know what I'm saying?
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And he just understands that she's a different type of woman,
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you know, it's just, yeah, I love Brian so much.
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Yeah. But so far we look William Henry
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Beecham doesn't ring any bells. So I think we can stop guessing
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for a minute. It's not like it's not Bonnie
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Prince Charlie. It's.
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Not Bonnie Prince Charlie. We will not be marking anyone.
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We. Will not be marking anyone but I
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wouldn't. When she said the name, I was
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like, OK, do we know William Beecham?
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I don't think we do, but we'll probably something will probably
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come up. But I do like the fact that the
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name William just seems to be very dominant universe.
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Cuz I was like, oh, oh, his brother's William and then.
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Oh, his son is William, too. Oh, but that may be where Brian
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gets the name William, because isn't isn't cause William is
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Jamie's older brother, right? The one that died.
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So maybe that's where he. Older brother or younger
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brother? Or younger brother.
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Younger brother. He was a younger brother.
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OK. Because.
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Wait, it was a Robert too, wasn't it?
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Yeah, Yeah, I think it was. AI think I think that might have
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been the baby that she actually died having.
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I don't remember for sure. No shit.
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I know it was another boy that she had, but yeah.
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But yeah, I I like the fact that that name just kind of weaves
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its way through the whole Outlander universe.
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So it's like this might have been a William.
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We met before. Yeah, I mean, Can you imagine?
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And we're going to be like, Oh my God, when we.
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Find out right. Right.
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As long as not Bonnie Prince Charlie, That's all.
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Oh. My gosh, because how would that?
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I don't even know how that would have worked, but it just would
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have been hilarious. Right it.
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Just would have. Been right but OK so Lord love
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it and his old sneaky just surviving self.
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So of course, they're baptizing the baby under the Princess that
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he and Julie are married. And like Miss Porter said, maybe
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that'll be enough to appease them that everybody else thinks
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that they, that y'all are, are married.
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Maybe he won't, you know, force a a wedding, which of course we
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see is not the case because he's going to make sure.
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So he actually does arrange a wedding for the minister to come
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to the house. He pays the minister handfully
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weds them, and then of course they have their dinner with the
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little stuffed sprinkled on his. Food.
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Let me just tell you, Julia is so freaking smart and I don't
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know if she had a memory of that from the the future or she has
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been really studying it and talking to the midwives to stop
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talking to them, you know, 'cause like how did she even
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know that that caused impotence is just beyond me.
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I'm like, OK, girl, because it's I, I get Claire knowing because
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she's actually in medical, you know, that's her thing.
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But for Julia to find these things out, she is so freaking
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smart. I love them about her.
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Yeah, because I, I think if you think about the fact that she is
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in the 1700s, a lot of their herbs and remedies comes from
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the earth. So I would assume again, she's
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been there now like at least seven or eight months.
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So she would have had time to kind of pick up on what they do.
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And I guess she could have been asked.
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She could have asked. She could have, you know, found
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out from somewhere. She could have read some books.
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You know, they don't know that she can read.
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Well, Brian knows that she can read a little bit.
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They don't know that she can read.
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So it could be written down somewhere, or it could be just
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because what did what does Miss Porter call it?
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She called it monks something. Yeah, oh gosh, so it could be.
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Like she's familiar with that term.
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She was like, oh, well, this is what we called it in my time,
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right, right, something like that.
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So, but either way it goes. They they put the stuff on his
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food and he's like, oh, this is season really.
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Well, what is? What is this the?
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1st girl. When a black man, they got a
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black person in the kitchen. When he was like, oh something's
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different and I was just like oh Lord, y'all didn't mix it in
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good enough. Right.
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But then he was like, I like it. He's sitting and just.
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Eating, eating, eating. Then when I tell you, if I never
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have to see this man have any other bodily function in this
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show, it'll be too soon. We've already seen him on the
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toilet several Times Now. This particular time we have to
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see him trying to get Little Willy to work.
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To work and Little Willy was not happening, and I know Julia was
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cracking up on the inside because I was cracking up.
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Because she's getting there, she got all her look, she got on her
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gown and she got on her her little thigh highs and she's
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just sitting there and it's almost like you could tell she's
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looking at her face like, am I really having to do this?
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Because just. And then and then that what is
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what's worse is he didn't even give her time.
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So she still, you know, like going through her healing, she
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still bleeding, she still, you know, everything.
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So he was just going to be, Oh my God, like, give her space,
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son, back away. Yeah, but but we also don't know
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what the time frame is as far as this could have been a month.
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Yeah, that's which. Technically speaking she still
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could be bleeding but knowing him, he don't care and the
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mindset of 1700s he's trying to put another baby in her real
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quick. See that's what I was thinking
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too because of the prophecy in the double egg that he's like,
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oh, I got to get this next one in there for the prophecy to
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work or whatever. 'Cause she said, 'cause Maze, we
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said something about one right after the other.
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Yeah. So I think that's why he was
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trying to do that. So.
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But yeah, his little friend wasn't working.
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And she's like, OK, well, I'll just go to my room.
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He's like, no, no, no, you stay here.
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I'll get this figured out. And then he's like, oh, you know
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what? Maybe I need more food.
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Maybe that'll help me. She was like, I got you.
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Let me go get you something to eat.
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I was cracking up because, again, like you, when I saw the
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previews for this episode, I thought it was going to be more
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serious. I thought there was going to be
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more fighting, more violence. I was not expecting the Comic
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Relief. And I enjoyed it so much.
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I was just like, yeah, go ahead and eat some more food.
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That'll be great because it definitely won't work.
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I don't know what she put in that food because that Joker was
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knocked out snoring. And she was just like, it worked
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like, you know, it was just, and I don't, you know, The thing is
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I don't know how much he put in there, but whatever it was, it
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worked real well. He was out.
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Yeah, yeah. So that was that was hilarious.
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That was that was probably the funniest part of the whole
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episode. It was because I just like
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seeing him get was, was, was deserving of him.
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He don't deserve no happiness. He does.
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He deserves no satisfaction, no nothing.
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Yeah, and then just for her to have a win because I know she's
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tired of dealing with this stuff.
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I will be. Yeah, it's hard to kind of live
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a double life when you're like, especially it'll be one thing if
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she was just, if this was just a regular, oh, I'm cheating on my
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husband type thing. That's a whole different type of
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energy. But you are literally doing all
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of this to stay alive and to keep your baby alive.
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That's got to be draining. Yeah.
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And and it's just, you know, I don't know, like it's, I just
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can't imagine not having no like they have zero power.
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No autonomy, nothing. No autonomy, just I just can't
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even imagine but. It's my own baby 'cause he
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doesn't like seeing the. Little front on her phone, she
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specifically said I would like to feed my own child and he's
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still like this. Don't look right.
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It ain't for you, Sir. It's for the baby.
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Oh my God, just gross. Just gross.
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And hers wasn't even that bad, right?
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Right 'cause. She was covered, right?
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She was covered. She was covered and she had on
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all those layers. Cause let me tell you, as
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someone who breastfed three children, no, she had it easy
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because there, there were times when I would have my entire
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front. So like I was one of those
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people. I produced milk, you know what
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I'm saying? If I pumped like I could have
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the I could have one of them on one side and I could literally
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sit there and pump almost a 16 ounce bottle on the other side.
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I produced. So that let down was no joke.
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She is. She just looked like she she
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looked like she spilled some water while she was drinking a
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cup. Right.
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And the baby was barely latching, you know, at first,
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too, because, you know, so it's not like she was just, you know,
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yeah. Right.
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But you know, I swear, Lord love it.
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He deserves nothing. But the good thing about all of
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this is he's over here passed out in the bed.
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She comes to the desk and she starts cleaning up the dishes
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and she happens to see some letters.
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And she's looking at the letters because the handwriting looks
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familiar. And when she picks it up and she
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reads that, she looks down at the bottom and she sees Henry's
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signature. But it says Henry Grant because,
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of course, he's quite adopted by the Grant, so he's taking that
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name. But this is a woman who
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corresponded him with him for almost a year.
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She knows what that hammer knows.
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So now she knows for sure that her husband is alive, that he is
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hearing this time and that he is in the Grant household.
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Yeah. My say I was finally I was like,
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please let Michelle watch this before she goes on her cruise.
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She told me she didn't get a chance to watch it 'cause I
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messaged her. I was like, is there anyway,
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this is Friday. She left Saturday morning.
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I was like, is there any way we can talk about this?
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Did you see it? And she messaged me before she
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left Saturday. She said no, I didn't get to
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watch it. I was like.
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Oh man. She didn't get to see it.
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That's OK. When we do the next episode,
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we'll get her thoughts because, you know, she got plenty of
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thoughts. About Oh yeah, Oh yeah, we got
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to talk to her about it things. Like we just need them to know
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that they are somewhere in the same vicinity, right?
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Yeah. And I like the fact that Henry
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Henry's mental break wasn't a long lasting thing.
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Yeah, he definitely. He was like, no girl, I was
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having a an issue that's no longer happening.
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But let me tell you that that whole thing, when he goes back
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to Seema, that's her name. When he goes back to the horse,
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she comes out, she's like trying to sound English or whatever,
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whatever. He's like, I don't need you to
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be her. And she was like, well, I
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thought that, you know, when we lay together as husband and wife
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and I thought I was like, I need to know what is the difference
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between husband and wife sex and horse sex?
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Like is it just the fact that like with the whores, they they
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always, they always do like from behind or they do all the stuff
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that they put the proper women wouldn't do.
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They don't cuddle. And they don't face, you know,
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like they, they don't, you know, embrace and cuddle.
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But also I think he was. He was laid up with her.
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Yeah, I think also because he did cuddle with her and he did
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like seem to think she was Julia.
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The girl thought, well, your woman dead so you need a new
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woman and I'm here. She thought she was going to be
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the next Missus Beecham, I guess.
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And I'm like girl, I feel bad for her 'cause she seemed real
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young and then naive I. Do I feel bad for her?
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But at the same time that you don't have to tell.
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See. Oh, but I knew where that was
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going. I did.
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He might as well had drew a map. Right what?
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What was you telling her all that was?
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Especially with all of the the the rumors and the stories about
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the Fairy Hills and Craig Nadone.
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Why? My whole thing was why would you
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mention Craig Nadone in in particular?
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It's almost like you wanted someone to look for you, which I
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know that wasn't the case, but still.
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It was stupid. I just as soon as she started
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telling her, I said, oh, that's how they going to find him
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because of her. Yeah.
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And immediately Bug was like, we talked to you whore.
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We talked to you. Whore.
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I told you you wasn't going to find a good woman in the whore
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house. Yes, you did, Bug, You did.
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You did. Yeah, and she probably, you
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know, didn't think nothing of it.
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She might have just said it just because, you know, Oh yeah, he's
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going blah blah blah. She might not even, or they
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could have tortured her even. You know, because Bug was evil.
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I, you know what, I'm going to be honest, I think at this
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point, yes, I do feel sorry for her and her circumstances
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because I'm pretty sure she did not choose to live in a brothel.
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I'm sure that's not the way of life she chosen, you know?
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I know he gave her some money like he said, hopefully for a
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fresh start, but chances are she probably doesn't even have that
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money because whoever runs the brothel the the black lady, I
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can't think of what her name was.
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She probably has that money now. But I feel like Seema prob when
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they came looking for Henry she knew that.
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OK, if you're working for the Grants, I'm sure that even in
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the brothels they know the reputations of the different
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clans. She probably knew.
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OK, if he runs away from the Grants, he's going to be in
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trouble, but also, if they go get him, he might come back to
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me. I have a feeling that's probably
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why she opened her mouth, 'cause.
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She won't have. Seriously.
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Said yes, he was here, but I don't know where he went after
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this. Like she's, she's a quote UN
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quote lonely whore. Why would why would he share his
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plans with her? Right?
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Because most of them usually don't.
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So she could have easily played that often be like, well, he
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just came here and he came here to get something that he left
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and then he. Left, right.
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Yeah. She could have easily done that.
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She didn't have to, shouldn't have to tell on him.
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But I think she was hoping that at some point he would come
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back. Like, OK, if they go get him,
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he's got to come back because obviously he's not happy where
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he is. Yeah.
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And though this is an illusion, for him, at least it can be an
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escape or whatever, you know? But the problem is he's not
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going to come back to you because you don't count
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feelings. Who?
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Does that and then he ain't trying.
00:21:05
He don't want you like you don't want what you offering.
00:21:08
At all? No.
00:21:10
He already just said that he don't want you.
00:21:12
No, I don't want you to pretend to be her.
00:21:15
And then also too, like, I guess the the the way people are
00:21:20
ignoring he's talking about he didn't lose just his wife.
00:21:25
He lost his child too. You didn't have no question.
00:21:29
You don't have no sympathy. Just I just like, oh, he lost a
00:21:33
child. Oh, oh, where's another day in
00:21:35
in the Highlands, which I guess 1700s.
00:21:38
That's probably not too far off the mark.
00:21:41
They probably are used to losing children, but still it's kind of
00:21:44
like, I don't know, so that. She's sweet, I just wish she had
00:21:51
just kept his mouth shut. She, yeah, he really should
00:21:54
have, but again, he ain't in his right mind 'cause even it almost
00:21:59
felt like when he and Ned Gawen were having a conversation, it
00:22:03
almost felt like Ned had a suspicion.
00:22:09
Yeah, that something was happening, Yeah.
00:22:12
Because 1, Henry did ask a lot of questions about Craig Mcdoon
00:22:16
when they were at Beltane. And then two, also you, if you
00:22:20
think about it here, we just dropped out of the sky, ended up
00:22:24
with this powerful position with the Grants.
00:22:27
He thinks differently than the men of that time.
00:22:30
He speaks differently. He acts differently.
00:22:34
Like I said, had an interest in Craigmadon in the stories.
00:22:39
And Ned is one of those people who is very smart.
00:22:44
I think in the current Outlander timeline, I think if they had
00:22:49
told Ned about Claire, I think Ned would have been one of their
00:22:53
closest confidants as well. Yeah, he, I think he, I think he
00:22:57
is a man who has seen enough of the world that he could have
00:23:01
been a little more open minded to those possibilities.
00:23:05
Until, you know, the fairies thing, which is so weird because
00:23:10
the Highland culture, y'all believe in the fairies, y'all
00:23:14
tell all these stories. But then if you see somebody who
00:23:17
actually has lived it or whatever, you think they're
00:23:20
which and you try to burn them at stake.
00:23:23
Which is funny to me. That's the thing I was bringing
00:23:26
up like when they were at Beltane and and everything is
00:23:28
because and then even before when he talked about the fairy
00:23:31
hill and Davina was telling her to put, you know, offerings to
00:23:34
the gods and stuff. And I was like, it's funny to me
00:23:36
how they're still very much Pagan, but also still very
00:23:40
Christian and how that, oh, which, oh, you are witch, you
00:23:45
are witch. But you, you do realize that the
00:23:47
reason why you guys got forced to be Christian is because they
00:23:50
felt like your whole Pagan religion was witches and da da,
00:23:53
da. And so it just feels weird to me
00:23:55
that they have this, they're holding on to both, but they're
00:23:58
also like, no, but you're really.
00:24:00
Like what? But I mean, that's even like, if
00:24:02
you, I mean, think about it, in 2025, a lot of the holidays that
00:24:06
Christians celebrate, they started out of studying rituals,
00:24:09
but they won't admit that. You know, Oh, no, no, of course
00:24:13
not. The birth of Christ, Chris.
00:24:16
He wasn't. Even born on December 25th.
00:24:19
No, but not only that, I don't think he's born that time of
00:24:21
year First off. But then The thing is, you know,
00:24:24
because they had to. Talk to him if this is based.
00:24:28
On like, you know, all these religious because they didn't
00:24:31
want people to kill each other. So was this Constantine, if I
00:24:34
remember correctly, just was like, OK, this is what we going
00:24:37
to do Let's bring a little of this and a little of that People
00:24:40
was like, cool, let's do that, right.
00:24:42
People swear up and down, oh, it's all about no, it's not Boo,
00:24:46
even with Easter, Easter is about a whole nother goddess.
00:24:49
You know the eggs and the rabbits have everything to do
00:24:52
with her. Ain't got nothing utility right
00:24:54
like. Come on, you know, get your
00:24:56
life. Yeah, I mean, like Beltane, you
00:25:00
know, y'all going up here to dance on the hill, for the
00:25:03
fertility guys to bless you before you get married and yeah.
00:25:08
Maple Queen, you know, Yeah, come on.
00:25:10
Now, But yeah, I think I think Ned would have been a great
00:25:16
confidant to Claire if he had known.
00:25:20
But I mean, I don't know, there's something about him the
00:25:23
way that he looks at Henry and I love, you know, again, this is
00:25:26
another friendship that I did not expect when we saw this show
00:25:30
that I really like. And even the fact that Henry
00:25:33
told him like, yeah, I, I really consider you a friend now, but I
00:25:38
don't know, something about the way Ned looked at him.
00:25:40
And then when when Henry told him he was going to try to
00:25:43
leave, he was like, well, you can't just leave the Grants now.
00:25:46
I would literally have to disappear.
00:25:49
And Henry said, I think I can manage that.
00:25:52
Ned gave him this look and he was like, well, I bid you safe
00:25:55
passage. Yeah.
00:25:59
That's. That's strange because he.
00:26:02
Never said anything about getting on a boat, which he
00:26:05
probably that probably would be the the default because that if
00:26:10
you're on land, they can probably find you.
00:26:13
I don't know anywhere. Yeah.
00:26:14
I don't know how many met Grant has in his employ, but yeah, I'm
00:26:20
pretty sure they can find him. But I don't know, I just kind of
00:26:23
feel like maybe Med, I don't know, maybe he kind of has an
00:26:29
idea. And then now, you know, sitting
00:26:31
here thinking about it with the Outlander, the fact that Claire
00:26:35
was gone for 20 years and came back, right?
00:26:38
And she got to see Ned. And, you know, it was just like,
00:26:41
I can't believe you're alive. But maybe that kind of triggered
00:26:45
a memory for him. Like this seems familiar.
00:26:50
Yeah, this seems familiar. Yeah, yeah.
00:26:53
I do like their relationship though.
00:26:55
They seem really cool. It's like because they're not,
00:26:58
even though Ned is obviously Scottish, but he's I feel like
00:27:02
he's not like the rest of the Highlanders.
00:27:05
And so Henry being an Englishman, also being that kind
00:27:09
of educated guy, they just kind of have that bond because
00:27:12
they're, you know, they're both just hanging on by a thread to
00:27:16
their lives basically, you know, with these, with these plans,
00:27:19
but they're also, they have a significant amount of like
00:27:22
power, you know, persuasive power.
00:27:24
And, and when you're in that position, he's the only other
00:27:27
person who knows what your life is like basically.
00:27:30
You know, I think that's really cool that they found each other
00:27:32
and got to bond and like almost immediately too, right?
00:27:36
You know, so that was, that's really cool.
00:27:38
Right. Yeah, but anyway, Henry leaves
00:27:43
the brothel. He tries to go to Creighton and
00:27:45
Dune. Of course.
00:27:46
The bugs are there. Yeah.
00:27:49
He's like, OK, I have something we need.
00:27:52
We need for you to do. He's like, ain't nothing over
00:27:54
here for you. You think the fairies are going
00:27:56
to take you back to your bro? If you only knew.
00:27:59
Yes, they. Will yes, I do like that he was
00:28:03
resigned that OK, if Julie is gone, I got to get back to
00:28:07
Claire. I I that to me, I was like, OK,
00:28:10
OK, I see where you're going with this because, yeah, get
00:28:14
back to your baby girl because that's all you got left.
00:28:17
And your brother, you know, like, yeah, go back home.
00:28:20
Yeah, I dig that. Yeah, because like you said, I
00:28:23
still have someone who needs me. I mean, again, at this point,
00:28:27
Claire is probably six. Yeah, they're still very young.
00:28:32
You know, Granted, from all appearances, Lamb took great
00:28:36
care of her because of the the type of person she became when
00:28:39
she grew up. But still, that's her child.
00:28:42
You know, if you can't have the the other part of your family,
00:28:45
you can at least try to go back to that one.
00:28:48
Yeah. But, you know, even if he had
00:28:50
gone to Craig in the Dome, there's no guarantee that it
00:28:55
will work because, again, what from what we know of it has to
00:29:00
be done certain times, Yeah, like during the solstice or, you
00:29:05
know, that sort of thing when the, the, the veil is a little
00:29:08
bit thin, have to have a gemstone, which I'm pretty sure
00:29:13
he's not caring. He's just not just carrying a
00:29:15
gemstone around. Whatever he may have had on him
00:29:17
when he came through the first time.
00:29:19
Long gone. Yeah.
00:29:20
You know and. Then or something or you know.
00:29:24
Right. And then how would he even know
00:29:27
how to get back to Claire? Because he could just think, I
00:29:30
need to get back to my daughter. And like we see it, he might end
00:29:33
up in 1776 old Claire where she's older than.
00:29:38
Him old and in Oh my God, can you?
00:29:41
Imagine. Old and Gray, Claire.
00:29:44
That would be nuts. Because, again, they did really
00:29:49
good with the casting. She really does look like her
00:29:52
mother. Yeah.
00:29:53
Oh, Can you imagine a older Claire coming in, the coming
00:29:57
into contact with Henry and Henry's looking at her like
00:30:00
Julia and she's like. Right, right you.
00:30:02
Know my Mama name what? What she mean?
00:30:06
Oh my God. And then she might actually
00:30:07
halfway. I mean, well, I don't know
00:30:10
because I can't remember if she said she could remember them,
00:30:11
what they look like. No, I think she said she because
00:30:16
I think who asked her about her parents, It might have been
00:30:21
Marsley and she said that she was so young she she doesn't
00:30:27
really remember them. Because you know how like, even
00:30:31
though you don't remember folks, but then when you see them and
00:30:33
they're your presence, you feel like there's something about
00:30:36
this person. I know something about them.
00:30:38
Like I have those memories from like, you know, from a kid that
00:30:41
are buried. But then when I get around some
00:30:42
people who my family are like, oh, well, this person you know,
00:30:46
was, was so and so you knew. But I, I feel some kind of like,
00:30:50
I don't know you, but I feel something when I'm around you,
00:30:53
like looking at your face, something is familiar to me.
00:30:55
I wonder why she have that kind of you know.
00:30:57
Look about her, yeah. Oh, yeah, on that part.
00:31:01
Now he's talking to Ned Gallon. Yeah, so.
00:31:05
So I don't know, hopefully I don't know.
00:31:09
I mean, Julia has the letter, Henry is back and then oh, the
00:31:16
whole reason why they're bringing Henry back, of course,
00:31:19
beginning of the episode, right? Rats, cattle has have been
00:31:22
raided. The kind have been.
00:31:25
Stolen. SO initially large bug is trying
00:31:29
to blame the Mackenzie's, which to me didn't make sense like
00:31:33
immediately. So they're going to steal from
00:31:34
you, but they're going to give you their their daughter to it,
00:31:37
right. So, like we're about to be
00:31:39
family, we're about to be allies and we're going to do this.
00:31:42
Not granted, Dougal is a hot head and I wouldn't put it past
00:31:47
him to do something stupid and foolish like that.
00:31:51
But it it just didn't make sense.
00:31:55
And Malcolm Grant even said he was like, no, that doesn't make
00:31:58
sense. But then the fact that he pulled
00:32:01
out Mertz's name, Oh, he was causing trouble at Belton.
00:32:04
I'm like, no, he wasn't. He was drunk and arch Bug beat
00:32:06
him up. But I think he also was annoyed
00:32:10
too, that he came and challenged him for Ellen's hand.
00:32:15
That's what I feel like. That was more about what he was
00:32:17
he was mad about. And then, you know, he probably
00:32:20
told him later he whooped his butt or whatever.
00:32:22
But I feel like it was more like you.
00:32:24
You came for my woman. Oh yeah, you stole my He's still
00:32:29
my big Sir. Yeah, so at this point, Malcolm
00:32:32
Grant is taking over how they're going to handle it because
00:32:35
that's he said his father is not well.
00:32:38
So we already know at this point the actor who played Isaac Grant
00:32:42
had already passed by this point 'cause I believe he died just
00:32:45
after episode 4 was filmed. So.
00:32:51
So I guess they're probably going to incorporate that into
00:32:54
the storyline somehow because it would be weird to have him kind
00:32:58
of prominent in the first part of the season that all of a
00:33:01
sudden he just disappeared. I think you kind of have to
00:33:04
address that. So addressing the fact that he's
00:33:06
not been himself lately is a way to do that, which again, is is
00:33:11
really sad that that happened. But Malcolm is going to, you
00:33:16
know, he's like, OK, this is what we're going to do.
00:33:18
We're going to we're going to figure this out.
00:33:19
So what they what they do is on the other hand, you have the
00:33:23
Mackenzie's OK. You have Ellen, She's doing her
00:33:27
trousseau for her wedding. You have Missus Fitz trying to
00:33:30
talk to her. I feel like Miss Fitz trying to
00:33:33
get some information. I feel like she's looking for
00:33:35
some tea because she's like, yeah, we're going to do this
00:33:39
with the wedding sheets. We're going to put a hole right
00:33:41
here. A small hole for your privacy.
00:33:43
Well, maybe not too small, because we hope Mr. Grant is
00:33:46
blessed. Ellen's just looking at her
00:33:51
like, please shut up. You can ask me anything.
00:33:56
Ellen's like. I don't need to know nothing.
00:33:58
I got my. I have been ruined, thank you
00:34:03
very much. Right?
00:34:05
I have been sufficiently ruined. Right.
00:34:10
But then Colin comes in to check on things.
00:34:14
I'm like, you know what it cost? I just want to punch column in
00:34:18
the mouth. Yeah, 'cause you can't.
00:34:21
Agreed to marry the man. Calm down column, right?
00:34:24
Calm down. So how's your true soul going?
00:34:26
Oh, you're you're moving too slow so you can have moms.
00:34:29
And she was like, mom got married in a hurry.
00:34:31
She doesn't have a true soul. So that means Mom was probably
00:34:34
knocked up. Red Jacob knocked her up with
00:34:37
Ellen. Yeah, I'm sure you have a
00:34:40
trousseau. Well, you have to do something
00:34:43
because we got to get this on. He was like, you just won't have
00:34:45
it. She was like, that's going to
00:34:46
make us look real cheap. Yeah, they're not going to have
00:34:49
respect for us. And we barely getting a diary up
00:34:52
like come on now. Right.
00:34:55
So then later Nat Gowen goes in and tells Column about the whole
00:35:00
thing with the the Grants cattle and and the suspicion that Dugo
00:35:04
did it. And Column is mad.
00:35:07
He, you know, he's Carson. Dougal.
00:35:09
He was like, well, I'll go there because Ned is like, well,
00:35:13
everybody else came back, but Dougal didn't.
00:35:16
Dougal went over here to Castle Nairn because he's trying to go
00:35:19
to a cattle auction and they're like a cattle auction.
00:35:23
They don't have cattle. OK, Ding, Ding, Ding.
00:35:25
That's your first clue. Cattle is over there in Castle
00:35:29
Nairn. So then when Ellen is like,
00:35:32
well, I'll go. I can, I can go under the
00:35:35
pretense that I'm visiting my friend.
00:35:36
I can invite her and her husband to the wedding.
00:35:39
I can see if Dougal is there and I can bring him back and stuff.
00:35:42
And Colin doesn't want to let her go.
00:35:44
And she was like, I'm the best suited person to go because, as
00:35:47
you say, I have no authority. Nobody's going to pay me much
00:35:51
attention. I can go and do this and come
00:35:53
back and column is like, man, if they find out that he had
00:35:57
anything to do with it, well, maybe this maybe this agreement
00:36:00
into with the Grants wasn't such a good idea.
00:36:04
Miss and Ellen both looked at him like we as much beforehand.
00:36:09
Trying to tell you. I was like that's OK y'all keep
00:36:13
making mistakes so Ellen can keep looking at y'all like I
00:36:17
told y'all this and this is exactly why dad didn't train
00:36:19
y'all. Right, This is why I didn't
00:36:22
make. Y'all knows it because Ned said
00:36:24
something about her being like Red Jacob and he was like a man
00:36:28
with a plan within a plan. I think he knows that Red Jacob
00:36:31
was trying to finagle some kind of way for Ellen to be in
00:36:34
charge. Yeah.
00:36:36
So that the clans will follow her.
00:36:38
Right. We're on.
00:36:40
We're on your part with a plan. Oh, goodness.
00:36:43
That just makes me laugh. But yeah, that that's true.
00:36:47
I do feel like he was buying his time so that he could figure out
00:36:50
a way because she's just way smarter than them.
00:36:53
Not to say that she's, you know, not capable of mistakes, but
00:36:57
she's not, I don't know, like, like for instance, for her to
00:37:01
come up with a plan to go say, oh, I can go there and I can go
00:37:04
invite them to the wedding personally.
00:37:06
And me being a girl, nobody's going to doubt that, you know,
00:37:09
this is a huge thing weddings, right?
00:37:11
And, and The thing is, she and of course she goes, she gets
00:37:14
there and and, and and Lady Nairn is like, yeah, that's
00:37:18
great. We'll try to be there.
00:37:19
But what you really here? For right, right.
00:37:21
Lady Nan is look, look, we got some smart women on this show
00:37:25
because Lady Nan was like, yeah, what you really here for?
00:37:27
What you really won't? She was like, yeah, I heard my
00:37:31
brother might be here and that might mess with my win.
00:37:34
And she was like, well, let's make case, let's go get them.
00:37:36
Right, right. No questions asked.
00:37:38
Let's go. Because that's true, you know.
00:37:40
Right, because you got 2 Mackenzie's who just show up at
00:37:43
your house all of a sudden. Yeah, yeah, you know something
00:37:47
ain't right. But this whole thing goes
00:37:50
sideways so quick because, OK, we're going to put, look, we're
00:37:56
going to stick a pen in this and come back because we got to talk
00:37:58
about we got to go back to the christening.
00:38:02
Oh, yeah, OK. Because Martha shows up.
00:38:05
Oh my gosh, this is what we need, Michelle.
00:38:10
Right, right. Because Martha shows up, he's
00:38:13
late. Brian sees him and he's like,
00:38:15
OK, I'm a I'm a scoot over and let you sit.
00:38:17
Martha just looks at him and goes to the back of the curb.
00:38:20
So immediately Brian is turned to the front and he's like, I
00:38:25
don't think it clicked with him yet.
00:38:27
What was going on? He goes outside.
00:38:32
Mert is there. Mertha, hey, stop, talk to me.
00:38:36
Mert is ignoring him. He gets right up on Mert's and
00:38:39
Mertha turns around and knocks the living daylights out of him.
00:38:42
I was like, yeah, Michelle's going to be very happy with this
00:38:45
thing. Oh my.
00:38:48
I am just sitting there all confused.
00:38:50
And I'm like, dude, if you haven't figured it out by now.
00:38:53
He is a little. Thing.
00:38:54
Yeah, I'm a need. You to be I'm a need you to be a
00:38:56
little better. And Martha just turns around
00:38:59
Ella McKenzie and Brian's like, yo look, when I met her, I
00:39:04
didn't know this was the girl you was in love with.
00:39:06
And it was too late. I was already in love with her
00:39:08
too. Now all the time they're having
00:39:10
this conversation, Balik is in the background.
00:39:13
You're just watching them. They just talking.
00:39:14
It's like, can y'all? Shut up, please.
00:39:17
Can y'all shut up? Even though I knew that wasn't
00:39:20
going to happen for Martha, but Martha was like, you know what
00:39:23
he was like. I'm not surprised that you fell
00:39:25
for her. Hell.
00:39:27
That's why I keep helping you. What I I.
00:39:30
Know you both, beautiful people. Right.
00:39:33
And and and had it been any other person, I would have been
00:39:36
like, yeah, y'all are perfect for each other.
00:39:39
But dude, you are my brother and you betrayed me.
00:39:45
And Brian was like, I'm so sorry to know how to tell you what?
00:39:48
Whatever, I don't care. Yeah, like, and then, you know,
00:39:52
'cause what? But Bullock, I can never
00:39:53
remember his name. Bullock or whatever his name is,
00:39:55
was just like, you know, that's it.
00:39:57
He, you know, the, the the Laird wants you in here.
00:40:00
So like merge is like, I ain't got to talk to you.
00:40:03
I got to talk to your dad, but I ain't got to talk to you.
00:40:05
And I was just like, Oh my God, I hate that they're on at odds
00:40:08
right now. It's so sad, but it's sad.
00:40:11
It's sad. He was, you know, he's like, oh,
00:40:14
he you just didn't tell me, bro. Like that right there just shows
00:40:19
how mature merchant really is. He might have had a silly side
00:40:22
and he might have been sweet. But how mature he was, all he
00:40:25
will, all he wanted was man, you could have just told me, don't
00:40:29
let me sit here hanging, thinking I might be able to
00:40:31
still have a chance with a woman.
00:40:33
And you don't already, you know? All the times that I've
00:40:37
mentioned, like Michelle said, Ellen McKenzie, Ellen McKenzie,
00:40:40
Ellen McKenzie, Ellen McKenzie. And you're just like, Oh well,
00:40:43
you need to get over your heartbreak, bro.
00:40:45
You had plenty of time and again, this has been months down
00:40:48
the road now. Especially before belting when
00:40:52
you know we was all going to be in the same spot once again.
00:40:55
Yeah, No, I mean, I get where Michelle's coming from, even
00:40:57
though I love Brian. You do no wrong.
00:40:59
I do. But.
00:40:59
Yeah, yeah. Not not the best decision bro.
00:41:03
Not the best decision. But So what?
00:41:06
What Lord Lovett wants to talk to Martha about is apparently
00:41:11
he's been using Martha to go around to the various Jacobite
00:41:16
meetings to kind of get the gauge of where the rest of the
00:41:20
clans are are headed. So Martha tells him, well, I
00:41:24
don't know yet. He was like, there's another
00:41:26
meeting that's about to happen. I can kind of better gauge
00:41:28
things. So he looks at Brian.
00:41:30
He was like, take Brian with you.
00:41:32
And I was thinking about, you know, they have the T-shirts
00:41:34
that says, don't go alone, Take Myrtle with you.
00:41:37
That's something Claire always says, Jamie, take Myrtle with
00:41:39
you. Take Myrtle with you.
00:41:41
So he sends them on their way. He knows that they're beefing
00:41:45
with each other, right? Brian walks out.
00:41:47
He was like, so was it? Was it a woman, a coin, Right?
00:41:50
And he tells Ballack, he said better for them to get that out
00:41:52
the way on the road, you know? But I have a feeling Ballack
00:41:56
probably told him what happened at that point because of what he
00:42:01
says at the end of the episode. So.
00:42:02
Right for later. Life.
00:42:03
Let me tell you who they who they fighting over.
00:42:06
This will interest you. They're fighting over Ellen
00:42:08
McKenzie. You know that woman that you
00:42:10
wrote the letter about her virtue band?
00:42:12
Yeah, that's who they're fighting about.
00:42:15
So going back. I think, I think that he wrote
00:42:18
the letter after he learned that Brian was involved, though,
00:42:21
because remember when he talked to Brian, he told him that it
00:42:24
was because of him that now he's going to basically get what he
00:42:28
want with about Ellen. Because remember, at the end he
00:42:30
asked me. Well, he.
00:42:31
Didn't know Brian was in love with her or that he was involved
00:42:35
in that way. He was talking about Brian had
00:42:39
told him about Dougal going after Malcolm Grant because they
00:42:42
thought that Malcolm Grant taking her.
00:42:45
So they were like, oh, well, if Malcolm Grant took her and and
00:42:49
defiled her, then that would be called, you know, that sort of
00:42:52
thing. So that's what that was.
00:42:55
But, you know, putting a pic, taking the pen out of council
00:42:59
mayor. This is the meaning that Martin
00:43:02
was talking about. So they end up at the meeting,
00:43:05
which again, Dougal and Ellen are.
00:43:07
So they're now all in the same place.
00:43:10
Oh, and you know what else we got to go back to?
00:43:12
Also Dad Gowen and Henry because he's the one who told Henry told
00:43:19
Dad Gowen that they found out it was.
00:43:21
Roy. Rob Roy.
00:43:22
Rob Roy. Yeah.
00:43:23
Also the pigs and not that they know it wasn't the Mackenzie.
00:43:26
'S now so that they got all this stuff going on Yeah yeah.
00:43:31
So robbery Castleman Ellen has found Dougal.
00:43:34
She's trying to convince him to come back home.
00:43:36
And Dougal is like, no, I'm doing this for the, you know,
00:43:38
for the sake of the clan, blah, blah, blah, to better.
00:43:42
So while Rob Roy is sitting there having a conversation,
00:43:45
Brian just happens to be looking around the room.
00:43:48
Spies Ellen. At the same time, Ellen just
00:43:50
happens to turn spies Brian. They're both locked in this gaze
00:43:55
at each other like, Oh my God, I can't believe I'm seeing you.
00:43:57
And this is the first time they've seen each other since
00:43:59
Beltane Merta's smack dab in the middle.
00:44:02
He looks at Ellen. These motherfuckers back and.
00:44:06
Sees who she's looking at, and he looks at them.
00:44:09
It's like Mertha ain't even standing there.
00:44:12
And I felt so bad for him, but at the same time, I was like,
00:44:16
Mertha, you need to pay. You need to see what this is,
00:44:20
right. You know what I'm saying?
00:44:21
This is real. Like, I understand your heart is
00:44:24
broken, but these people don't see nobody else in this room.
00:44:27
Yeah. And.
00:44:28
They're being very obvious. Right.
00:44:31
Oh my God, like stop looking at this man while your brother is
00:44:34
right here. Wow, that brother is right
00:44:37
there. Yeah, that brother.
00:44:38
Oh. My God.
00:44:40
So why then, listening to all of this, here comes Malcolm Graham?
00:44:46
Oh no, before that, Dougal, of course, is about to go chasing
00:44:50
tail. He tells Murtha because he's
00:44:53
introduced to Murtha right before they walk into this
00:44:55
meeting. Hey, keep an eye on my sister.
00:44:57
You just don't let some random dude keep an eye on your sister,
00:45:00
OK? Whatever.
00:45:02
They're having a conversation and comes Malcolm Grant and I
00:45:05
was looking at this in so many different ways.
00:45:07
I said, OK, so you walk into a Jacobite meeting to find the
00:45:12
woman you are betrothed to talking to the man who stood up
00:45:16
next to you and challenged you at Beltane.
00:45:19
That's already going to look. Suspect right?
00:45:24
She's so good, though. She had like so worried, like
00:45:33
she. Right.
00:45:35
Like, Oh my God, I like, I can't believe you found me in this
00:45:38
embarrassing situation. But I came to talk to my friend
00:45:41
to invite her to our wedding. Found out my brother was here
00:45:44
supporting the Jacobite, 'cause, you know, he's been swayed by
00:45:47
their politics, but we're loyalists.
00:45:49
I came to try to talk him out of it.
00:45:51
And now I feel like this is going to be a stain upon us and
00:45:54
your father's not going to let us get married.
00:45:57
He was like, wait, so good. Don't have to know.
00:45:59
So good girl, I mean pass too girl just.
00:46:03
Right. So then here come the Red Coats.
00:46:06
Here come, here come the police. And they're like, oh, Rob Roy,
00:46:10
you stole his his cattle. Rob Roy doesn't deny it.
00:46:13
Yeah, they're about to arrest him.
00:46:15
And Malcolm Grant is like, OK, you know what?
00:46:17
So I knew we were going to find the person who did it.
00:46:21
So we don't need to do anything else.
00:46:23
I'm good. And then the Red Coats are like,
00:46:26
well, no, actually, we can let him go, but they're all here as
00:46:32
traitors. So we got to make some more
00:46:34
arrests. So after, right, Brian is
00:46:38
pulling his pistol out of his kilt.
00:46:40
And I was like, are you about to shoot somebody?
00:46:43
No, he's creating this a distraction.
00:46:45
So he shoots the gun into the ground and everybody like, goes
00:46:49
all over the place. Ellen literally pushes herself
00:46:53
away from Malcolm Grant and runs towards Brian through the crowd.
00:46:58
And when they get outside, they are holding hands, they're
00:47:02
turning to each other. And he's like, I can't, I can't
00:47:05
let you go. And she's like, well, Malcolm's
00:47:07
father will definitely not let us get married now because I've
00:47:11
been seeing here, he's going to think I'm a Jacobite.
00:47:14
That's not going to happen. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:47:18
I was like, I need y'all to get a little more space in between
00:47:22
she. She literally grabs his head
00:47:25
like she's about to kiss him. And here comes fucking Google.
00:47:29
Dugo wait, whoa, snap Big Brother keep big.
00:47:33
Not Big Brother, but Big Brother came and lay brain down.
00:47:37
You know, make it so many times since this episode.
00:47:42
And then he's like really Ellen a Fraser, like really the
00:47:46
bastard of Bass war enemy. And Ellen's like, oh, you can't
00:47:49
tell girl, this is Dougal you talking to.
00:47:51
You think he's not going to use this tick and every command she
00:47:54
has? Tried to bribe him.
00:47:56
I'm going to tell Calvin what you're doing.
00:47:57
He like, girl, please, I don't care about that.
00:48:00
Look what Calvin going to do, right?
00:48:03
But I was like, you know what? I think he actually, I feel like
00:48:07
they already kind of knew who Murtha was though, before this.
00:48:11
Because when they leave, he's like murder, you come in, When
00:48:14
they they run off murder, you come in, let's go.
00:48:16
And I kind of feel like he already, yeah, I guess because
00:48:20
maybe because of Miss Fitzgibbons, he already knew who
00:48:22
murder was. Yeah, yeah.
00:48:24
So he's probably like, OK, Murt, I'm going to take you with me to
00:48:27
keep you out of this crosshairs. You know, because the Red Coast
00:48:30
was still there. They were arresting people.
00:48:33
So maybe to protect Miss Fitzgibbons, but also if he he
00:48:38
saw Murtagh come with Brian, he's about to get some.
00:48:42
He's about trying to get some information.
00:48:43
From my answers, yeah, I hope you don't get beat up for for
00:48:47
that again. Like just.
00:48:49
I'm. Already just.
00:48:51
I'm preparing my mind for it. It's just.
00:48:54
I've been through so much. Right.
00:48:57
I can't tell you. I was real afraid when they had
00:48:59
been. When Malcolm Grant mentioned his
00:49:01
name, I was like, I know where to live.
00:49:03
So that part I'm not worried about.
00:49:05
But I don't want him to just get beat up constantly for just, you
00:49:08
know, all kinds of crap. Just for existing and being in
00:49:11
love with, everybody in town is in love with.
00:49:14
'Cause I'm like, look right and oh, oh, the other thing.
00:49:20
What you call it, Dougal brought all the gold or whatever money
00:49:25
or whatever he had that should have been for her dowry and
00:49:29
brought it for the Jacobite cause.
00:49:32
And so he don't, Oh no, I'm doing this for the I'm doing
00:49:36
this for the clan. And I'm like bro.
00:49:39
But you, you want to know why I think he was doing that too,
00:49:42
because the guy who was looking at him and Ellen in the in the
00:49:48
meeting, you know, there was somebody who they, he was.
00:49:51
Looking straight up, that's. Mechanic, that's the person he
00:49:53
had called him to if he became Blair, look like that was him.
00:50:00
I was like OK Google doing some he doing some really shady shit
00:50:05
because I think he wanted for her to not have a dowry for the
00:50:09
grants to turn them down so they.
00:50:12
Can grant her I forgot exactly what he looked like so I was I
00:50:17
was wondering like he was looking shady and smiling all
00:50:20
weird and I was like who is this guy?
00:50:22
And then he started. Being like, yeah, let's go get a
00:50:24
drink and stuff. Like, OK, yeah, yeah, I think
00:50:28
that's what that was. But then following all of that
00:50:32
stuff, this is the crazy thing. So apparently the thing that the
00:50:37
Grants wanted Henry to come back and go do was to pay a visit to
00:50:43
the Mackenzie's. And what he does is he goes and
00:50:48
he has told Colin McDougall about the letter that was sent
00:50:51
to him from Laura Lovett questioning Lady Ellen's virtue.
00:50:57
And so now they're all questioning her and they're
00:51:01
telling her that the, the question of your virtue has
00:51:05
come, you know, has come up. So now we're going to have to,
00:51:09
quote UN quote, do a test to make sure your virtue is in.
00:51:15
I heard that I was like, OK, you know what, first of all, that we
00:51:21
already know that's tissue going to fail.
00:51:24
But it, I don't want to say triggered me, but I forgot that
00:51:32
they used to do that kind of thing.
00:51:35
And then I start thinking like, so how exactly do you test a
00:51:39
woman's virtue? You're going to what do an exam
00:51:44
for hymen is still in and. See if she bleeds.
00:51:48
Right. And here it is.
00:51:50
So here it is. You do the test.
00:51:53
If she doesn't bleed, you know that she's been loose or
00:51:56
whatever, and then you're going to do whatever punishment you
00:51:59
do. But if she does bleed, you're
00:52:01
going to know that she was innocent, but you will have
00:52:04
ruined her virtue. Yeah, yeah, in such a way.
00:52:10
It's just like the witch trials, like, oh, OK, you know what?
00:52:13
We're accusing you of being a witch.
00:52:15
We're going to put this 1100 LB stone on top of you, and if
00:52:19
you're able to get from up under it, then oh, you're a witch,
00:52:21
we're going to kill you. But if it crushes you to death,
00:52:24
oh, that's. Dead and your soul.
00:52:27
Will go to heaven, and your soul will go to hell.
00:52:30
Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:32
No, you know what's crazy today? I want to because I have some of
00:52:35
the some of these women that do like history stuff like and make
00:52:38
it like fun and silly and stuff. But one of the things that came
00:52:41
up today in my timeline, which is crazy that this episode was
00:52:44
women back in the day who wanted to like show that they were
00:52:47
still a virgin when they knew they weren't.
00:52:49
And one of the things they told him to do was put a Leech down
00:52:53
there, let the Leech suck, then take it off and let it scab
00:52:57
over. And then when they knew they
00:52:58
were about to get the test or they was about to have sex, make
00:53:01
the scab bleed so there will be blood.
00:53:04
I said what the hell, who is doing what?
00:53:09
Because that's a shame that women have to do crazy shit like
00:53:12
that so that people will believe they're a virgin.
00:53:15
I have never heard that Leech Earl.
00:53:18
I was done. I've heard about the like, the
00:53:21
goat's blood and the sheepskin bag and that, yeah, that's one
00:53:25
thing. She talked about.
00:53:26
I had never heard the Leech theory.
00:53:29
I was done. She said that same thing.
00:53:32
You can do like a little vial of animal blood and break it and
00:53:36
make it, but like, why are we doing any of these people?
00:53:39
Oh my God, oh Jesus. And then what about the woman
00:53:44
who could you know, people, you know, that's the one thing about
00:53:46
like thank God for modern medicine 'cause we find that
00:53:49
women break their the hymen brakes for all men are reasons.
00:53:52
It doesn't have to be that they ever had sex, horseback riding,
00:53:55
bike riding, falling in the wrong place, stretching wrong.
00:53:58
So if they can break it. And so I just, you know, how
00:54:01
many women got in trouble because they didn't bleed?
00:54:03
Because not all women don't bleed.
00:54:05
I mean, that's, that's just like the women who couldn't have who
00:54:09
couldn't have boys. I mean, let's let's talk about.
00:54:12
The man's face. Right.
00:54:14
How many wives did you divorce and be had because they didn't
00:54:18
bear you a son? You know that whole thing?
00:54:21
But Oh my God, that is so a little.
00:54:26
Yeah, that's just disgusting. Yeah, I was done.
00:54:29
I was like, Oh my God, the fact that you would have to do that
00:54:35
so they wouldn't kill you or or punish you for not or your whole
00:54:41
life be ruined because now you're a whore because you
00:54:44
didn't bleed. Oh my gosh, girl a mess.
00:54:51
I was like crazy. So when I when I just came on, I
00:54:54
was watching and they said they was gonna do a test.
00:54:58
Oh my God, I was like. Oh my God.
00:55:05
And then did did they say who was gonna do the test with?
00:55:09
I sound like they said some somebody in in the preview they
00:55:13
said I mentioned somebody. I thought it was a woman, but I
00:55:16
don't know. I don't know.
00:55:17
I don't know. But then.
00:55:18
But all of this is happening just after Miss Fitz has found
00:55:24
her Fraser tartan her chest. Miss Fitz, So damn nosy it was.
00:55:30
Like, excuse me, why do you have this Fraser tartan?
00:55:32
Are you head fast? Well.
00:55:35
Well, what happened was And then she was going to burn it.
00:55:40
You better give me. My right, right.
00:55:42
You better give me my wedding tartan.
00:55:47
I mean, but I understand her wanting to do that 'cause she's
00:55:50
trying to protect her lady. Well, not only that, but like
00:55:54
everybody else will suffer because if she mess up, then
00:55:58
they can take over the whole client, you know?
00:56:02
Yeah, it's a mess all around. But I was like, oh, this next
00:56:06
episode they have you seen the previews for the next episode?
00:56:09
Yeah, yeah. There's gonna be some shit, you
00:56:14
hear me? Like I.
00:56:20
Exactly, exactly. Just put your cover, your eyes
00:56:22
and just. I am so glad I did not exist in
00:56:29
the 1700s. Let me just tell you.
00:56:32
And when people are like, what part of time would you go back
00:56:36
to? None.
00:56:38
None, 'cause even beyond what people immediately think, which
00:56:41
is slavery, I'm a woman. No, I don't want any parts of
00:56:45
this, not even as a queen. Not no, none of it.
00:56:50
None of it. None, Oh my.
00:56:54
But so next. So in next week's episode, I
00:57:00
guess they're going to try to do this test.
00:57:02
So I get I, I mean, at this point, I don't know if there's
00:57:07
anything that she can do to save face because, like, are they
00:57:13
going to let her prepare for this test or are they going to
00:57:15
be like, OK, you need to go in this room right here.
00:57:17
Strip. Yeah.
00:57:18
Like she. That's what I was wondering
00:57:24
because I kind of feel like in order for this test to be
00:57:28
legitimate, somebody from the Grants would need to be there to
00:57:33
see if they didn't just lie. Well, that's why they have Henry
00:57:36
there. Right, So like, I feel like are
00:57:39
they going to are they is are they going to do like a whole,
00:57:43
you know, bring in your doctor or like their doctors already?
00:57:47
They are they just going to have a midwife do it?
00:57:49
Like I just, I don't know, like. And then the other thing is, I
00:57:54
are they going to do like they do the wedding customs here, you
00:57:57
know, the wedding customs, when they go to bed on their wedding
00:58:01
night, they have a they have a audience to make sure that the
00:58:05
web that the the marriage is consummated.
00:58:08
Is this going to be something that's going to happen?
00:58:09
Like have so many questions. And I'm so, and then the fact
00:58:18
that Dougal is sitting there just kind of yeah.
00:58:20
And not as clever as you thought.
00:58:22
You were he swear he's so smart. You, you've made your bed, let's
00:58:28
hope you don't die in it. Y'all just talk about killing
00:58:32
each other and your siblings dying as if there's nothing.
00:58:36
As if there's nothing and she ain't even in competition with
00:58:39
you, so why you so mad at her? You know what I'm saying?
00:58:42
Like come. On man, 'cause their 'cause
00:58:43
their dad favored her over them Yeah, that's why it's.
00:58:51
Too much. Too much, yeah.
00:58:53
But yeah. And then after that, that's when
00:58:55
we find out that that Simon Fraser sent, I think the
00:59:00
additional letter or he sent something back because Brian has
00:59:04
come back. Brian finds out.
00:59:06
Oh, yeah, you got married while I was gone.
00:59:08
You were doing that on purpose. And he was like, yeah, well, I
00:59:10
was. I sent you away for other
00:59:12
reasons, too. He was like, you just helped me
00:59:14
because now, yeah, your girl is being called into question.
00:59:18
He was like, you know, I told you to go.
00:59:20
I told you to go after what you want and take it.
00:59:24
I'm proud of you, son. I was like that.
00:59:28
Your pride is not something Brian Fraser needs.
00:59:34
Yeah, Brian, just like face, his face is on the floor.
00:59:37
Like, what are you? What are you doing?
00:59:39
You got to give my woman killed. This is like messed up.
00:59:42
Right, 'cause what? What can you do at this point?
00:59:45
Yeah, and now that Google has seen and knows there's
00:59:49
definitely something between y'all, are they just gonna come
00:59:52
after brain that like, Oh my God, we don't need this kind of
00:59:55
drama. We don't need it.
00:59:57
What episode is this, by the way?
00:59:58
You said 7. So we got what we got, Three
01:00:00
more episodes, three more episodes before the end of the
01:00:03
season. OK, I.
01:00:06
Can Fast forward this I do not want to see this gross
01:00:09
horribleness Tony Kern. I just, you know, he's so but.
01:00:14
Oh my God. It's the same man that made me
01:00:18
cry as Van Gogh on Doctor Who, and I just can't.
01:00:22
You can't reconcile that fact. Oh, and then, Oh yeah, because I
01:00:28
just Fast forward through that, 'cause I couldn't look at him
01:00:30
doing that, but he's over. Here, jacking himself off, I
01:00:33
just. Yeah, I had to get back.
01:00:37
Come on, little buddy. Like.
01:00:40
Right, Julia just sitting there like like I can't.
01:00:46
Like please don't come up. Please don't come up.
01:00:50
And then it gets to that scene with Ballick and the and the
01:00:54
reverend or whatever. But you know what?
01:00:57
I'm not surprised. No, no, I'm not surprised at
01:01:00
all. Because this is the one person
01:01:03
who can say that you faked the date book.
01:01:06
Right. And I when I saw he was drunk, I
01:01:09
was like, oh, OK, they gave him off his guard.
01:01:14
Lord Lovett probably say yeah, go on ahead and take care of
01:01:16
that. Yep.
01:01:19
Just, yeah, just I know it's a lot, but at least Julia knows
01:01:29
that Henry is alive, even if Henry doesn't yet know that
01:01:32
Julie is alive. But you know, she's going to
01:01:34
find some kind of way now. And I mean, now that Brian knows
01:01:38
what's about to happen with the Grants and and with Ellen,
01:01:43
obviously he's probably going to try to find some way to get to
01:01:47
the grants to save Ellen. Right.
01:01:50
Julia will probably be like, oh, well, I just found out that's
01:01:53
where my husband is. Or should I call Brian 1st?
01:01:56
And Brian May be like, oh, about the grants.
01:02:01
Let's go. Yeah, so hopefully we will see
01:02:07
some kind of reunion, maybe not next episode.
01:02:12
They might make us wait all the way until episode.
01:02:14
Oh my God, they better. But at least she knows that he
01:02:17
is alive. I do feel better about that
01:02:19
fact. And she knows where he is.
01:02:22
Yeah. So they can't be too far away if
01:02:25
Lord, if Lord Lovett and Isaac Grant are corresponding with
01:02:29
the. In short, short time period,
01:02:32
Yeah, right. So.
01:02:35
Hopefully her and the baby, they can find them, they can find
01:02:39
themselves on that, on that path or whatever.
01:02:44
But I mean, we already know Brian about to go.
01:02:46
He about to go chin check for his woman.
01:02:49
Yeah be like look, y'all not about to touch her.
01:02:53
But I also feel like Ellen, at this point, she may decide, you
01:02:56
know, right, Y'all can just kill me at this point because if
01:02:59
y'all not going to let me be with him and y'all about to test
01:03:03
it, just go ahead and keep. That might be what she says.
01:03:06
Now we know it doesn't happen. But yeah.
01:03:09
And then again, I'm kind of wondering if she's already
01:03:12
pregnant at this point. So that, OK, so that right there
01:03:16
is what I was thinking when they said they talked about a test.
01:03:20
Cause for some reason this is in my timeline.
01:03:22
I don't even know why this is also my timeline, but apparently
01:03:25
they used to take the women's urine and use it in in wine.
01:03:30
And then based on the color of it, that the wine would turn
01:03:34
because of the hormones and proteins in the wine and in the
01:03:37
urine, it would make it turn a certain color if she's pregnant.
01:03:40
And I ain't never heard that either.
01:03:41
That was also in my timeline today, You know, little British
01:03:45
like you know. What time I knew you were going
01:03:47
to be recording this episode tonight.
01:03:50
You know what I'm saying? And I was like, and I know
01:03:51
because I've been obviously because I was in London and I
01:03:53
was doing stuff and I was looking at stuff about, you
01:03:56
know, just stuff in London and the royal family and stuff.
01:03:58
But like, yeah, like I saw that today and I was like, oh, I
01:04:01
didn't know they did that. So I'm like, what if she's
01:04:05
pregnant? Because, you know, my initial
01:04:07
thought was if they see that there's no blood and she's she
01:04:10
no longer has her hymen or whatever, then they're going to
01:04:13
immediately wonder if she's pregnant because women just got
01:04:16
pregnant a pretty much right off the bat back then, you know, I
01:04:26
mean. I haven't looked it up.
01:04:29
Like I've been trying not to get go into too much detail and
01:04:33
looking up stuff because I'm like, OK, I don't want to just
01:04:36
know everything that's going to happen.
01:04:37
So I don't remember what year they got married.
01:04:40
I don't remember what year Jenny was born.
01:04:43
Because it is now 1715 based on that letter.
01:04:47
I mean the the book the Kirk. In the Kirk it was 1714
01:04:53
supposedly for their wedding and then 1715 for the baby being
01:05:00
born. Yeah, yeah.
01:05:03
So I I'm just like I yeah. I don't know what.
01:05:12
I don't know what's about to happen with Ellen.
01:05:14
I ain't got no. I mean, again, we know she
01:05:17
survives. We know her and Brian eventually
01:05:20
end up together, but it's the getting to that part that is
01:05:23
stressing me out because they are going through so many
01:05:26
different things. So I don't know what's about to
01:05:30
happen with her. I'm a little afraid for her, but
01:05:40
I don't know. I kind of.
01:05:42
So I kind of have a feeling that with Mercer being there, if
01:05:48
Martha is in fact at Castle Yacht right now, I have a
01:05:54
feeling that even though he is upset with Brian, I don't think
01:06:01
he will let anything happen to Ellen.
01:06:03
Yeah, because again, he can't. But he can't really blame Ellen
01:06:09
because Ellen didn't even know he exists.
01:06:11
He had never spoken a word to her.
01:06:12
He had never said anything to her.
01:06:14
So you can't really be mad at her because, again, by your own
01:06:19
admission, you're not surprised she fell in love with Brian.
01:06:22
You know, she could have fallen in love with Martha if she had
01:06:26
met him first. It's possible Martha was a very
01:06:29
likable guy. Yeah, very handsome.
01:06:32
But at the same time, I don't think she would have because
01:06:35
Martha was very obviously smitten with her and she wasn't,
01:06:41
she wasn't feeling for any of these guys who were like Josie
01:06:45
for her like that. So I just, I have a feeling that
01:06:49
he will protect her as much as he can.
01:06:53
That may even include helping Brian to get her out if they
01:07:00
feel like she's going to be in danger.
01:07:03
Right. But I don't know.
01:07:04
I just feel I'm still like, I still think about the fact that
01:07:07
we never really heard Murta talk about Brian.
01:07:09
He always talked about Ellen, you know, or he said your
01:07:13
parents, but he never talked about him and Brian's friendship
01:07:17
or how close they had been. So I don't know.
01:07:23
I just need them to save her before they go sticking stuff up
01:07:28
in her wazoo. Trying to find out what I need
01:07:34
them to not do that just horrible.
01:07:39
Yeah, No, I just, I, I just because it's got to be, it's
01:07:45
going to be something very backwater, you know, of course,
01:07:49
horrible. Nothing.
01:07:51
Yeah, because it's already even now today we have the speculums
01:07:54
that we have that are made of plastic.
01:07:56
They're not even like the ones my, you know, back in the day
01:07:59
when they were metal. And what did they use before
01:08:01
they? Seen the metal ones?
01:08:03
Oh yeah, No, I see. Yeah.
01:08:06
Car just just yeah, no, I just, I'm like, OK, it's bad enough
01:08:11
you got to go crank me open. You better use something a
01:08:13
little less painful. Right.
01:08:15
And I think they can. No better way.
01:08:17
Appropriate term, isn't it 'cause that's what it feels
01:08:20
like. Yeah.
01:08:21
Like, no, no. OK, OK.
01:08:29
So Julia knows Henry is alive. Yep, and in her in the time with
01:08:33
her. So that's.
01:08:35
Right. He knows that Ellen is in
01:08:38
danger. I don't know what Malcolm Grant
01:08:41
is about to do. Just I just.
01:08:46
I think Malcolm is so obsessed with the idea of having Ellen
01:08:50
that even if his dad didn't want it, I think Malcolm would still
01:08:53
try to have her. Yeah, but not if she's been
01:08:55
ruined by somebody else. Yeah, I think.
01:08:58
You know what's funny though? I really, I really feel like if
01:09:02
he could find a way to hide it from people, he would 'cause I
01:09:06
feel like he been wanting her so long, he ain't gonna be willing
01:09:09
to give her up. You might be right, but he
01:09:12
might. Think Isaac might be the only
01:09:14
reason that he wouldn't take her.
01:09:18
But then like you said, with the actor being gone, they're just
01:09:20
probably going to just make say he passed because I was
01:09:22
wondering. I didn't realize the actor had
01:09:24
passed. And so I was wondering why when
01:09:27
all them all that noise, autumn bells, I'm like, how is he not
01:09:30
awake? Because they was blinging and
01:09:33
yelling and screaming all through the house.
01:09:35
So how is he not awake? But that makes more sense that
01:09:37
the man has passed on. Yeah, he then they really, I
01:09:40
think. It was right after Episode 4 and
01:09:42
that's the that's the last time we saw him episode 4.
01:09:45
But I think he passed like a few days after the after doing that
01:09:50
episode or something like that. Yeah.
01:09:52
And it was real sudden. May have been AI want to say a
01:09:56
heart attack or something like that.
01:09:57
But I know he wasn't sick. It was very sudden.
01:10:01
So, yeah, but I don't know, I kind of feel like, so Malcolm
01:10:07
seems like the type of person he he is very infatuated with her.
01:10:11
He is very in love with her. But he also seems like he's the
01:10:17
kind of guy who will not take damage to his pride very
01:10:23
lightly, especially because he's not like a, he's not like a big
01:10:28
brute of a guy like like Dougal is.
01:10:31
He's kind of, you know, compared to some of the other men, like
01:10:35
even say Archbug or Henry, he's very slight.
01:10:39
He seems a little more gentle, which is not necessarily good
01:10:44
trait for men back then. So I I feel like he would use
01:10:51
Ellen as kind of like his, I don't know the testament to his
01:10:56
manhood or his macho Ness or something of that sort.
01:11:00
So her having betted someone else, Yeah, he probably would
01:11:06
keep it secret. But here's the thing.
01:11:08
Column would know. Dougal would know.
01:11:10
Henry would know. Ned Gowen would know.
01:11:13
Those are some pretty important people to know that kind of
01:11:16
information, especially Column and Dougal, because they can use
01:11:20
that information to maybe blackmail Malcolm.
01:11:24
Oh, yeah. So you're going to help finance
01:11:26
Clan Mackenzie or we going to tell everyone that you married a
01:11:29
loose woman, that sort of thing? Yeah, so wish they would do that
01:11:34
'cause they don't care about their sister, obviously. 1700s
01:11:38
politics, clan, you know, clan stuff is more important, but OK,
01:11:46
but it's like, OK, three more episodes to the end of this
01:11:50
season. I I can't wait to see what
01:11:54
Michelle has to say about this episode.
01:11:56
So I think we're going to have to spend a couple of minutes
01:11:58
when we do the next one, 'cause she's doing a recap Saturday.
01:12:02
Yeah, to let her recap and get her thoughts out, 'cause you
01:12:05
know, she's going to have some feelings, especially about
01:12:08
Murta. But you have any final thoughts
01:12:11
about this? Episode it was.
01:12:14
It was a great episode. I'm just happy that we're making
01:12:18
headway with Julia getting back with Henry.
01:12:21
I'm glad that people kind of know that, you know, Ellen and
01:12:26
Brian have a thing. Not everybody knows, but some of
01:12:30
the most important people do know at this point.
01:12:32
And it's not no longer a secret. Because I was like, how long?
01:12:36
They're not very good at hiding, so I'm glad about that.
01:12:41
I'm glad Davina Porter, you know, has got her mind right
01:12:44
when it comes to Julia and that she's becoming Ally.
01:12:47
That was very important. And I think it's going to
01:12:50
continue to be important too, especially if Julia happens to
01:12:53
tell her, hey, my husband is alive.
01:12:56
I'm going to find my husband now, thank you.
01:12:58
Bye. Yeah, right here you have, you
01:13:01
have your position back. You can have all this stuff
01:13:03
back. I love it so.
01:13:06
Although now I'm starting to worry because he keeps
01:13:09
threatening Brian. We're harming his mom.
01:13:11
Like if that's going to be a continuous thing, like
01:13:13
everything to go wrong, he gonna harm her.
01:13:16
Yeah, man, I just. And again, I don't know.
01:13:19
I don't know Davina Porter's future.
01:13:21
I don't know how long she lived. I don't recall Jamie ever saying
01:13:26
anything about her except for that one Lord Lovett episode.
01:13:29
And that was really only to say, yeah, he kind of forced the
01:13:33
kitchen maid. And that's how my father came to
01:13:36
be. But he never talks about her
01:13:39
like, Oh yeah, I've spent time with my grandmother or my
01:13:43
grandma or whatever you want. He just, he never does.
01:13:46
So I don't know, maybe maybe she won't last past this first
01:13:51
season. Maybe that's also one of the
01:13:53
things that gets Brian to kind of leave, you know, or whatever.
01:13:58
So. I wonder was there any kind of
01:14:00
like any kind of illness in that time period that might have come
01:14:07
through and then, you know, 'cause there's always some kind
01:14:10
of illness, Sweating sickness. Oh, yeah, yeah, sweating
01:14:14
sickness was yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it.
01:14:19
That's true. I guess we'll see.
01:14:22
Yep, Yep. Hopefully things won't be too
01:14:25
bad for for Lady Ellen next week and we can get ourselves out of
01:14:29
this test. Because that is just gross or
01:14:32
otherwise she going to have to say misfits out to look for some
01:14:35
leeches. But you know, on that note, that
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