On this New Year’s Eve episode, Hanako and Lorrie get caught up and just shoot the breeze for a few minutes to ring in the New Year. They talk about Lorrie’s reaction to the final two episodes of Hawkeye, and discuss a little bit about how the pandemic has tried their patience (Hanako is currently on Covid-watch while waiting for test results after a possible exposure). Also discussed is the anticipation for the final season of A Discovery of Witches (which is due to premiere January 7), and the lack of (or lack of their knowledge of) POC-based groups and fans of fantasy-based shows/books that are usually discussed on the show, such as ADOW, Cursed, Shadow & Bone, etc. The episode cuts as 2022 rings in on the East Coast. Happy New Year!
Mentioned in this episode: @allsoulssisterz , @DCblackgeeks
*All Souls Sisterz, two Black women who love & support the All Souls Trilogy books by Deborah Harkness, the basis of the show A Discovery of Witches (which is covered on this podcast.
* Black Geeks of Dragon Con, a group of Black and other POC geeks that meet up at the annual Dragon Con convention to share their love of all things geek.
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What's a pirate's, welcome back to another episode of The
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Phantom hybrid podcast. This is hanako and I am here
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with Lori and we are just talking about anything.
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Hi, guys. It is New Year's Eve.
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I am on covid whites because I may have been exposed.
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So I'm stuck in the house waiting for test results and I
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was like, I just want to get online and just talk about
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whatever for like half an hour 45 minutes before.
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Before the new year kicks in and we haven't had a chance to have
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Lori on the show for a couple of weeks because she's been dealing
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with some family things. So you know, I just want to get
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on here and talk with her and see what she thought about the
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last two episodes of Hawkeye. And we've got some other stuff
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that's happened. Unfortunately Betty White passed
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this morning. 99 years old, I was mad, I'm like two weeks.
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But you know what? Wars Jedi thing, right?
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I did not. What was it?
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Oh, they're saying because her last name was white, she has the
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white light saber. And then she, they already
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ghosted or in and then the other one is a Lord of the Rings.
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Are there saying that she said no, no, Satan.
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Not today, got up and went down up to Mordor.
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I didn't see that one. You know, I was sad about it
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when I heard about it this morning because I was like
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really on New Year's Eve. Like really, that's how we're
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going into. But I thought about, I said, you
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know what? No No, that's not how we're
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going into 2022 is how we're ending. 2021 is already a shitty
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year. I mean she just kind of wrapped
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it up. It was going to be a bad year
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regardless and now we don't like I would rather it be.
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That's how we ended a crappy year rather than that's how we
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begin a new year fresh. That's true.
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So that's true. No, and she lived ninety.
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Nine years like what's your acting was planning?
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Birthday celebration like me, you can't really be mad shit,
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you know, I think I saw a quote somewhere where someone said
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make sure that you have lived your life so that if you died at
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99 people will still be like wow you know that's too young you
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know, or something to that effect.
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Well they said she was old old enough.
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She thought it was. I think right?
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It was around. Somebody said she lived to be
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old but she He didn't live old enough to to not be young or so.
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I think I was Ron Howard who said that?
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I think it was a Ryan Reynolds quote.
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I just I just saw that and it, I mean it's just I was just
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floored, but I was mad because they I just saw last night or
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the other night on Netflix that they had cute at they were going
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to do like a special for her birthday and stuff.
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And, of course, you and I both know that well, including March
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sister, the oldest of the family that they're all excited because
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in Chicago It's April. They are having the very first
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Golden Girls convention and they were going to do a zoom meeting
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with Betty White and what's the channel that has all the the
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reruns for Golden Girls. They heal and heal and they
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automatically through on a Golden Girls marathon and I
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think tomorrow is going to be nothing but not Barney Miller
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but the other one. Mary Tyler Moore.
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Okay. Mary Tyler Moore 17.
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Yes. Okay.
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But I thought that was cool. That was not.
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That was cute. Now, let me tell you right now,
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I am watching this horrendous CNN New Year special with
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Anderson Cooper and Andy Cohen and it's a hot mess.
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I'm sorry. It just is they keep showing
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this one. Dance troupe from Harlem and
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they're they're doing these weird Coming to America, dance
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moves and stuff. It's like the second third.
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I mean show them are already had two shots because that's the
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thing they take shots. So Aires is already halfway
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drunk, a me: it's like it's a party.
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They interview, pay LuPone. They just interviewed Katy Perry
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look like she's had a lot of plastic surgery.
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I'm not feeling it. Feeling it at all, I don't
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really. I got out of the habit of
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watching a lot of the New Year's specials a few years ago like
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every once in a while I'll tune in if they're having good.
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Oz. But even some of the
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performances, I'm just kind of like, no.
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I just rather be sitting here watching geek stuff for I think
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last year last year, for 2020, going into 2021.
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I actually spent time doing a zoom call with members of sci-fi
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Party Line podcast, which is the podcast that I really got my
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start on. And that was kind of what gave
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me the idea of this one, because we did that for, like, maybe
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three hours last year, we were like, okay, you know, It.
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We can't go anywhere because it's still covid.
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Let's just get on and just shoot the shit and you know, everybody
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had drinks and we had on our little decorative, New Year's
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Eve stuff and it was fun. And it was like, okay, I can do
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that this year but of course, I didn't get any decorations
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because I wasn't expecting to have to be quarantining.
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So, you know, you think, oh, I have time to go do that.
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I have time to go do that. So I'm sitting here with no
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wine. No.
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Nations. I'm like, oh this just sucks.
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Okay. Okay.
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We were friends about what 11 years stuff like that.
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Yeah. You know me, right?
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Yep. Again I'm going to preference
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this. If you are a single black woman
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or if you're a very black woman, beginning of October, go to
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Trader, Joe's, and buy a case of wine.
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Keep it. And I know I but you know, I
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don't really keep alcohol in the house because I don't drink like
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that, right, right. No, I have various health
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issues. I have, you know, diabetes.
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I have high blood pressure. I have early stage kidney
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disease so I don't drink like that very often.
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So I just, I've never been one to keep alcohol in the house
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like that. And then also like, when my kids
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were growing up my ex-husband and I we, you know, that was one
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of the things that he wanted, he didn't want alcohol in the
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house, round the kids, which I understood and no problem with
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that. My dad was an alcoholic, so it's
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just certain different little things.
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Like, I'm not one of those people that just grabs a, you
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know, No, a drink whenever but I was like, I don't need to have
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it in the house because it's just why.
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So, yeah. So like, I keep, I keep a case
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for two reasons. One because of covid, I learned
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early on that, especially in California, you can't get
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anything, you could get it now. Like, last year.
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Yeah, it looks weird. Look, my husband you love this
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story. It was June a ghost.
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A 2020. Now my husband's 54 years old,
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he was 53 52, whatever around that area like 2020 and they had
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told us that Walgreens which is like 100 feet from my house.
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That you could be a senior, you can get toilet paper and paper
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towels. One each between the hours of
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8:00 and 9:00 fewer senior rights, that great walk-in was
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waiting for 9:00 they're like, oh no, we know you, you come in
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so he snuck in there. Got toilet paper and paper
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towels and wipes. And that was the only toilet
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paper that we had. Besides what I had had we gotten
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to like August. Let me tell you what got me
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through the toilet paper crisis of last year.
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So, right before covid, hit? Right before covid.
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We actually switched from the regular, you know, pull toilet
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tissue to one of those little boxes where you Pull out the
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toilet tissue and it comes out where my Square.
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So we had a whole bunch of toilet tissue in the building
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that we no longer could use because we didn't have the, you
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know, the the dispensers for it anymore.
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So they sent it home with us, they were like, okay, we can't
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use it, take it home so you can use it.
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That was what got me through the toilet paper crisis because I
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had like two shelves Elves of single roll of toilet paper
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sitting in my bathroom. That's the only thing that got
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me through. I believe it fine.
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Toilet tissue here. Probably until I think it was
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August before I could actually buy sell mine.
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So I summon. So what?
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I tell you that, I now I use instacart a lot and I use Amazon
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Fresh, you know, this, because I just don't want.
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I was already using these Services because I don't want to
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go to the store. I just don't like Just or so, I
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have everything liver. Let me tell you, they did two
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things. That saved my life.
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Last year. One you could shop at Costco
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without having a membership, which was awesome because you
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can border they would bring it second.
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They they did the best thing ever.
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They drop Target as a as a store because Target was sort of
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crappy. Okay, Walmart's?
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Oh okay. Oh my God.
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Everything in my house. Now, says, Great Value.
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Great Value this It value that great.
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God look, what it was September or 2020 when they added Walmart,
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I was like, okay. When I got the money together, I
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told Marcus is I want you to ignore the the credit card for a
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minute. I got a Costco order.
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It it copped out like I think 600 bucks toilet paper, paper
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towels paper plates laundry. This that the guy brought the
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stuff up to me because I live on the second floor.
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Hmm, he hostage me To give him a bigger tip because he said, and
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I quote, you ordered too much stuff.
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I'm like bitch please I ain't got nothing in this house.
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Oh y'all he refused. I of course recorded him.
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He literally he told me he said, you ordered too much stuff and
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I'm like, excuse me. There's no careful what you can
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and can't order. He said, yeah, well, it was,
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this is my fifth trip up here. I'm like, I haven't had supplies
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this house since. Like, when the thing started,
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I'm getting my supplies. He said, well, I uh, We deliver
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it. If you increase now mind you
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your tip is 5 and 10 percent or whatever, I chip 10% because I
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know people my nephew's all the they do stuff so I know what
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they are so he made me give him a 20% tip for you.
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Brought me restaurant. Stuff fee.
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Yeah. See, you're not supposed to do
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that and I know this because I used to, I used to do instant
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instacart deliveries. I don't because people here
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don't tip I was like, is it's just too much but oh that people
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canceled Stukas it because I don't think to last lecture
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about not so much this year but last year people were getting
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their stuff promising. A larger chip because they knew
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we were hit and then they would go in and they would cancel the
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kit. We have.
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Yep they do that. I've had that happen before.
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People are just people just assholes about stuff like that
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but you know but this is for it now because you know, people who
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are in jobs where tips are required, they're Going out
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finding better jobs because they don't want to deal with the
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show. Let me let me, let me tell you
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these people. I was crack it up.
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These people this year. They I think they said not told
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her that the biggest number of people quit their like four and
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a half million. I'm sitting there going, really,
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they're leaving their jobs and then the other thing is that
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you've got a lot of people especially in the industry I
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work in where if they're under 40, they're basically Saying
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screw you. We're going to go to a company
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that has this this and this, so they're losing people.
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Yeah. And for me, I'm like, well, I've
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been in my job x amount of years.
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I've got x amount of years, you know, I'm looking at retirement,
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you know, eventually. And I'm like, I could not
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imagine walking up to my ball. Say you know what Deuces?
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I couldn't do it. But speaking of Deuces, I
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watched all of Hawkeye episodes one through five with my
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husband, watched Hawkeye the season finale.
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Last week, I think it was. Yeah, and his rankings are this
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last half of one division. Hmm.
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Falcon, aware soldier. Okay, Hawkeye.
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Oh, what is low-key? Okay, that's his.
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He actually really enjoyed the last episode episode 3.
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The one where they did the trick arrows.
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Yes, laughing hysterically, thought it was funny.
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He basically told me that he believes that What we saw with
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our guy was probably one of the better ones.
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The only thing that edged out was the last two episodes of One
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Division. Mmm, is he just thought that?
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Because he likes the vision. He just saw this awesome.
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He said, and I agree with him, that it was fun, it was
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delightful. He like a whole Kingpin with the
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little graphic in the background thing, which was cool.
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He's never been a Hawkeye type of a person but we were talking
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about different Hawkeye storylines.
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He was like, well name me a few, so I was giving him a few.
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Tiles. And then I brought up something
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that I'm thinking about doing for my birthday episode for this
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fixed coming year, okay? Like okay, that's interesting.
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I'm still playing around with it.
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What are the things that they did about 10?
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12 years ago? Is that Marvel Comics?
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Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.
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Wait, wait, CNN has Regina King talking to Andy and Anderson and
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Jack. Hey, just popped up.
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That's awesome. Oh good, everybody's Jackie but
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so basically what they did is they did a series called Old Man
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Logan which is what the Logan movie is based upon and that's
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50 years in the future. The villains have taken over
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America has been carved up like The Hunger Games.
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All I districts and stuff and basically one of the main
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characters and Old Man, Logan is Hawkeye and Hawkeye at this
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point is blind. He's with Kate Bishop who's the
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new Hawkeye and he delivers a crucial package of weapons and
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Memphis, and to Wolverine to finish his story a lot.
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So they did a sequel called Old Man, Hawkeye and his 12 issues.
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And I'm thinking about making that my episode for my birthday,
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us doing the graphic novels issues 1212 old man, okay, where
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it's a prequel. And it said about five years
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before when he realizes, he's Going blind, Kate comes and
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helps him and he said, various children were very Speedy.
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I won't spoil because I want you guys to read it, right?
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But basically it's what gets them to the point where he is an
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Old Man Logan. Okay, right, okay.
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Well I was mentioning that to him and he was like, okay.
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So I went on, I went on a couple of different places I went to
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tomorrow's press, I went to various places, I found enough
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copies of the books and stuff like that, so I'm thinking of
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what I'll do, send them to you. You guys real.
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But the thing is that when I went on there, there was a lot
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of Marvel stuff, fly these, he stuff, but there was only really
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two Hawkeye, graphic novels additions there.
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Really, which I thought was interesting because when I went
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through because I spent a good half-hour just going through.
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Everything is Young curious. See what they got?
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Don't have and there is some lucky stuff.
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There is some caps that they do have the Sam.
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Wilson Captain America, graphic novel, they do have a couple of
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Visions stuff but it was like, okay, well, what are you guys
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going to get this? What are you guys going to get
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that? Because those Paper Stock is
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limited because what they do is they get the stuff and they only
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have enough for what they feel to send an email out.
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So my thing was okay, well, I'll go to college and get a
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digitally digitally, you have to have the Marvel app and they Go
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through that, but there isn't a lot of imprint Hawkeye stuff is
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based what I'm saying. I was very surprised when I
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actually went looking that I couldn't find it a whole lot.
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You know, I said this on the show and I think I've said this
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several times even, you know, where we've discussed stuff just
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as friends before the podcast. I've always felt like Oh my God,
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you should hear the fireworks that are going on in my
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neighborhood right now. But I've always felt like
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Hawkeye is one of the most underrated characters not just
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as an Avenger but just in the realm of superheroes period, you
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know, because of his human status because he doesn't do as
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much as the others or whatever. You know we've talked about it
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but I I really enjoyed the show you and I felt like it gave a
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lot of nuance to his character. It showed him in a different
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light and I felt like it really gave us the Hawkeye that we
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needed to see in The Avengers movies and then you know the
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relationship with him and Nat. We got to hear a little bit more
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about that in the show and everything so I enjoyed that.
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Now I don't know if you've had a chance to listen.
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Into the episodes that we did when you were missing.
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But did you hear us? Give you your shout outs for
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what you said about Eleanor bishop and I think, no, I
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actually, I actually wanted water in stock trades is where I
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went for the graphic novels. Okay.
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Okay, I've just drunk just enough.
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They could remember, no, I actually I haven't listened to
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anything since I think the 17th or so.
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Okay. Because you've been dealing with
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family because I've been dealing with family stuff.
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So this is a record for me. This is the 31st.
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I haven't listened to a podcast. I had to listen to an audiobook.
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I've listened to anything since we started Christmas Vacation.
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Wow, that is a record for yeah, yes, so we gave you your
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shoutout, I think Mike's screen name was Laurie, was right?
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So, yeah, we we had a lot of fun.
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Talking about those last two episodes, especially that last
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set. So because so, but seeing
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Kingpin though, the way Kingpin is supposed to be that was so
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much fun but see here's the bad part I'm sad because now
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Eleanor's been taken off the board so to speak.
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Quote unquote, unless she comes back at Echo because I really
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enjoyed it but I didn't feel we got the evilness of her quite
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enough. You know, I agree with you
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don't, you know, one of the things that I'm wondering is,
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you know, I know that was supposed to be like a series
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finale. But I'm wondering if they're
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going to give us another season of Hawkeye, you know, maybe for
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the tape Bishop stuff and if so maybe they'll bring Eleanor
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back. I know that I've read some
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articles where people have taught to like the show Runners
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and said hey you know the fans want a Hawkeye season 2 and of
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course they're being Mom they're like oh that's great to know
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that. You know that the desire is out
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there for it. But of course if it's happening
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they're not saying You can get or where we may see, Hawkeye
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again, but well, I I agree with you but I think the thing is, is
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that they might be waiting until like mid-January to announce
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stuff because they have full debt coming up for the year
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because you got She-Hulk, you got Echo, you've got Naomi,
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you've got the Miss Marvel stuff.
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They have a full deck plus, of course, I haven't seen it yet.
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The book of Boba Fett came out the other day.
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Yes. It did haven't seen that yet on
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Netflix and I I'm sadly only on season one but Cobra Kai came
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out today and that's it. Okay, and everybody loves Cobra
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Kai. Now, here's my problem because
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I'm we call our vacation shut down because my job is a
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factory. They shut down the last the week
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between Christmas and New Year's.
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So we have some time off. I want to be stress and I had
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all these plans because I haven't finished in summer,
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haven't finished the 100. I haven't finished Supernatural.
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Don't judge me. I haven't finished all this
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stuff, right? They finished Kim's Convenience.
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I got all this stuff stack. What do I do?
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Yuri, watched what I'm on? I'm in the middle of season 7 of
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Arrow. Did you start back from the
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beginning? Okay.
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So that's horrible. I almost did the same thing with
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a different Series so you know that they are coming out with
00:21:47
the Teen Wolf movie Next Year? Yes, I know.
00:21:50
I heard that. So they started a Teen Wolf
00:21:54
re-watch at the beginning of this month and I saw and I was
00:21:58
like, I really want to do this because I've been like I started
00:22:02
a Teen Wolf re-watch last summer when shutdown started, right?
00:22:08
And I think I only got through like the first half of season
00:22:11
one because then all this other stuff started happening and then
00:22:14
I started getting in my mind oh maybe I should do a podcast.
00:22:18
And then, you know, everything just kind of ran away from me.
00:22:22
But I was like, I should do a Teen Wolf re-watch and I forgot
00:22:26
who was one of my friends was like, So, have you watched The
00:22:30
Witcher yet? And I was like, not yet.
00:22:32
And I just finished that tonight.
00:22:34
That was Stronger, that either. Oh yeah, season 2 was good.
00:22:38
Start that or I haven't finished but let me let me let me tell
00:22:43
you ask me because you're my friend and you know me ask me.
00:22:47
I decided I needed a palate cleanser between watching so
00:22:50
much Aro. Guess what?
00:22:51
Show I started watching a bonfire episode.
00:22:53
Tell me you started watching. Vampire Diaries.
00:23:00
How did I know I watch the last piece all over again is on just
00:23:05
back. Oh my God.
00:23:08
That pissed me off. Not have her little slow
00:23:31
because I've been doing a lot of cooking and you could pause
00:23:34
Netflix and what it does. You know, it runs commercials.
00:23:37
I'm trying to find the proper name because that then sends a
00:23:41
stuff that you were watching intends.
00:23:43
Oh yes. So okay.
00:23:45
Okay, Conoco I'm trying to find it here I saw a commercial and
00:23:49
I'm going to add it because it just looks so good.
00:23:51
It's called the Glamorous impossible concubine and it is a
00:23:58
Korean series romance about this girl who's like a royal
00:24:03
concubine. And they got all the old-school
00:24:05
costumes. Mike is called the glamorous and
00:24:09
possible culture. And I'm sitting there going, you
00:24:11
know what, I'ma watch the heck. You know what, I need to hit the
00:24:15
lottery because there's way too many things coming out that I
00:24:19
want to watch and I don't have the time.
00:24:21
So, so this week, I finished with the Punisher.
00:24:25
Okay, I finished that yesterday season 2, and Charles from
00:24:31
sci-fi party line. He was like, don't watch season
00:24:33
to I'm like, I already finished it.
00:24:36
He's like that girl. Got on my nerves.
00:24:37
I was like, yes, she was a bit much there.
00:24:40
Were a couple of characters in season two.
00:24:42
That I was just kind of like why.
00:24:46
But other than that, it was, it was great.
00:24:49
I just Ben Barnes and Jon Bernthal, were just so fucking
00:24:54
amazing in that show. I don't know why it took me so
00:24:57
long to watch it but I'm glad I finally got through it and then
00:25:03
like I said, I finished season two of The Witcher but yeah so I
00:25:06
got through those Shows I was like, okay I'm supposed to start
00:25:09
watching Arcane witches and anime series based off of a few
00:25:15
of the characters from The League of Legends video game
00:25:18
series. I think I saw something about
00:25:20
that. Yeah, so League of Legends is
00:25:22
one of the video games that my son plays.
00:25:24
My son is a gamer. So that's one of the games that
00:25:27
he plays. But then my daughter, he told
00:25:30
her about the show and he was like, yeah, you just got to
00:25:32
watch it. So she washed it, and she has
00:25:34
been on my case for the last month.
00:25:37
Month. Mom, when we going to watch
00:25:38
Arcane and I kept telling her would do it on New Year's Eve
00:25:42
because I hadn't planned. I had a plan on going out,
00:25:44
anyway, I don't go out for New Year's Eve.
00:25:45
I'm usually at home, sometimes I have friends over, sometimes I
00:25:49
go to my mom's, but for the most part, I'm sitting at home
00:25:51
watching TV, so that was the plan.
00:25:54
But then she told me I couldn't watch it without her, and she's
00:25:57
been on her insomnia, sleeping schedule.
00:25:59
So she just woke up like two hours ago.
00:26:02
I was like, why can't watch it now?
00:26:03
Because I'm about to podcasts with Lori's, we'll have to watch
00:26:06
it, all right. So so I think I'm going to try
00:26:09
to watch that tomorrow and then I don't know.
00:26:14
We've did finish. Did you ever did you get to
00:26:17
finish watching Wheel of Time? I rewatch episode 4 this morning
00:26:23
we've got four episodes to go. I'm trying to convince mark
00:26:26
because with the winter which where I'm going to start this
00:26:29
weekend. When happened with that is they
00:26:31
did a nice recap like a 10-minute recap of the first
00:26:34
season. He's tall it He's looking at me
00:26:37
sideways because he doesn't watch anything unless it's
00:26:42
something he really thinks he's into.
00:26:43
So I have to ease them into stuff.
00:26:45
So I'm I gotta the winter, I think I have a better chance to
00:26:49
will time, but I am in the first part of the Great hunt, which is
00:26:54
Book 2. Okay, it's slow.
00:26:57
It's really, really, really, really slow.
00:27:00
What I will say this, basically, from what I seen and what I've
00:27:05
read, It's pretty good. I know there's something that
00:27:09
happens in episode 5 of people didn't like, but whatever my
00:27:13
thing is that because I'm a book reader and I see guy and I'm
00:27:18
really curious because I was Anthony asked, Anthony a while
00:27:21
ago about the different, I said die because they're throwing
00:27:24
stuff in from little stuff from different.
00:27:27
Brain makes sense of the actual series.
00:27:29
Wow. I'm really, really, really
00:27:32
tempted to go to The Wheel of Time.
00:27:33
Wiki to Justice. Yes I Found one, there's a whole
00:27:38
database. Sort, of course, you did well,
00:27:40
what else we're gonna do? But thing is that I liked it
00:27:44
enough that I do want to dedicate some time to it.
00:27:47
But my thing is, is that we like fantasy, right?
00:27:51
I don't want to get bogged down, watching something consecutive
00:27:55
unless I know we're going to be podcasting it because I just
00:27:59
finished the third book of a discovery which has Because I
00:28:03
want to get ready for the season.
00:28:04
Oh yeah. I'm saving.
00:28:06
I'm saving all the stuff I need to say, first of all.
00:28:10
Did you see the promo cover? The artwork, the gorgeous, their
00:28:13
hair. Oh, I haven't seen the, oh, it's
00:28:16
gorgeous. Okay, we'll look for that
00:28:19
anyway. They're back in modern times and
00:28:21
she's got the she's got the Ashmore book in front of her and
00:28:24
her hair. It's like coming up like oh when
00:28:26
she and Matthew standing behind her, he's got to scroll on his
00:28:29
face. And I've got Goose Bumps because
00:28:31
I just finished. Book, I haven't started the new
00:28:35
book of the new series, the whole thing, with the Marcus and
00:28:37
Phoebe, I'm saving, but I feel robbed.
00:28:43
Because the first book, okay? Second book.
00:28:47
Okay, there, buddy. Oh my God, it's awesome.
00:28:51
Right? So, here's my problem, women
00:28:55
writers. All right books that are women's
00:28:59
fiction and they go into fantasy, I'm talking about JD
00:29:05
rob, you know, the one that writes she has In-Depth series,
00:29:10
which is not some mystery series last two books.
00:29:13
Cramped like yes, she's 70. She's getting up there.
00:29:15
She's still. But anyway every once in a
00:29:17
while, she'll write like a magical stuff like she's got
00:29:19
this awesome Trilogy of books is about three witches and she
00:29:22
wrote about 20 years ago, that's awesome.
00:29:23
Anyway, she's doing a new fantasy type series doubt, okay.
00:29:27
And I hope problem that, if that's not the toe, you dip it
00:29:31
all the time. It tends to be kind of an and I
00:29:34
get the idea that Deborah Harkness wanted to start out
00:29:38
running a woman fiction book for the first two books and through
00:29:42
with these elements. And then when you get to the
00:29:44
third book, it's literally info. Do I'm sitting there and I'm at
00:29:47
work. And I'm typing, I'm listening,
00:29:49
and I'm stopping typing, and I'm yelling at my iPod and go.
00:29:53
Why did you put this in bulk to? Why wasn't this in book one?
00:29:57
That's exactly why I cannot listen to audio books while I'm
00:30:00
working for that reason, because I'll be stopping and I'll be
00:30:04
fussing and, no, I can't do it, it's too much.
00:30:07
Well, I mean, I I work at home right now, but when I go to the
00:30:11
office, when I have to go back or even Before the pandemic I
00:30:14
wouldn't yell, but I would mouth the words.
00:30:16
That's right with ya. But my thing is, is that the
00:30:20
book was really intense the first half, mmm.
00:30:23
I mean, we're talking infant. I mean, you learn everything.
00:30:27
You learn about the Ashmore. I'm not spoiling.
00:30:29
I'm just giving some hi-yah, you learn, you learn about what goes
00:30:33
on more about their family. You learn more about their
00:30:36
brothers, you learn about Fernando, you know, about gal
00:30:39
glass. You just get everything, okay?
00:30:41
You get to Past the halfway point and then it goes into
00:30:47
women's fiction until the end. I like all come on and then when
00:30:52
they get in and see, here's my problem.
00:30:54
Because I read so much, I judge you by how you finish a series,
00:31:00
I judged you on how you end that last book.
00:31:04
If you're at the ball, why did you write the other four?
00:31:07
Five, nine, twelve books. Yeah, we won't get into that.
00:31:15
In my opinion, she dropped the ball.
00:31:18
Mmm, drop it. Well, and I'm sick.
00:31:20
She had me until the last 40 pages and then I'm like, come
00:31:25
on. But yeah, she dropped the ball
00:31:28
now. When it comes back in January,
00:31:31
yay, I'll target market to it all down.
00:31:33
It, don't run next. I think that's what next week,
00:31:36
right? The seventh.
00:31:37
Yeah, my thing is, is that I'm going to be very curious because
00:31:42
they cannot end it was see. 73 and not give us a fourth season
00:31:49
quote-unquote with Marcus and Phoebe because if they ended,
00:31:52
people are going to be pissed. See?
00:31:55
Okay, so I'm not familiar with the book so I don't know what
00:31:58
happens but I do know that season 3 I think is going to be
00:32:02
heavy with Marcus's storyline because a lot of the people that
00:32:08
they cast for season, three are Marcus's children.
00:32:13
The bulk glosses that over Mm-hmm.
00:32:16
The book, the way it is, and I'm not spoiling, but I'm just going
00:32:19
to say, that's the way that it is in the book.
00:32:22
I don't know where people get that impression from.
00:32:25
Okay, but at the same time, I can see how they would say that
00:32:31
because it would lead right into the fourth book.
00:32:34
Hmm. Now, as far as his children are
00:32:36
concerned II. Need to read the that book
00:32:41
because I've got a lot of questions because basically what
00:32:44
the premise is that, Matthew and his family and Diana come up
00:32:49
with such a solution for problems, and it all hinges
00:32:54
upon, whether or not, they can pull off certain things, and all
00:32:58
of it goes around with everything.
00:33:00
We've seen the last few seasons, right?
00:33:02
That's being really vague. I know it's okay.
00:33:05
But, but my thing is, is that I feel that the way that she wrote
00:33:10
that in the way that they talked about it, because you've seen
00:33:13
the coke promos, you've seen it, you're like, oh because he got
00:33:16
like the one for all with the swords and all that, it looks
00:33:19
awesome. And the way that they even do
00:33:23
Sarah in the books with a very interesting because if they do,
00:33:29
Sarah the way that she's in the book in the show, It's going to
00:33:34
be really interesting on how everything turns out because, of
00:33:37
course, you know, certain things have happened.
00:33:40
But all that saying, I think that I'm excited.
00:33:44
I want them to announce it, they're going to be doing a new
00:33:46
series. The actors have wrapped, they've
00:33:49
gone home, they won't be back again.
00:33:51
And I'm mad because this is one of the smartest best shows that
00:33:56
they come. That's intellectual and fantasy,
00:33:59
right? You know, so Right.
00:34:02
I uh, you know, I followed this group on Twitter, they're called
00:34:07
also sisters and is basically black females who are into the
00:34:13
discovery of witches series, and the book series, and the TV
00:34:17
show. They also do my Outlanders group
00:34:20
as well. You know, because of course you
00:34:22
know those shows are mostly Caucasian or you know white
00:34:27
people and you know sometimes in African-American communities
00:34:31
they're like Okay why are you watching those white shows?
00:34:33
Even now I hear that sometimes not from quote-unquote I would
00:34:38
say real Geeks but I do get that still sometimes like don't you
00:34:42
watch any black shows? I'm like all the black shows
00:34:45
that most people watch deal with Street crime and infidelity and
00:34:50
that's just stuff. I don't I have no interest in
00:34:53
watching that on TV because I've seen enough of that in my real
00:34:56
life. So that's just one of the
00:34:58
reasons why I just I don't watch it but they also see.
00:35:01
Stirs, I believe they have actually already seen season 3
00:35:07
and I believe they have seen it and they left comments saying
00:35:12
that it was like brilliantly done.
00:35:15
They gave you know, High Praise for the cast and the pacing of
00:35:19
the story. So I'm looking forward to seeing
00:35:21
what they do. I can't believe that it's almost
00:35:24
here, but at the same time I'm kind of like it's going to be
00:35:27
over so fast, you know? It is yeah.
00:35:32
I believe it's going to be the standard because they've got so
00:35:35
much. Yeah.
00:35:36
And to be longer because like I said, is so fascinating.
00:35:43
I mean yeah, I think so
00:36:25
some men who like fantasy, it's a very interesting way Has
00:36:31
either. They're all enter.
00:36:32
They're not. Now, I love a lot of things
00:36:35
people. You know, I like my hardcore
00:36:37
science and a lot of people who follow the expanse, which also
00:36:42
is out. Now, I don't hear a lot of black
00:36:45
people really hyping the expense of me like maybe to other
00:36:49
people. Yeah, and I feel a lot of it on
00:36:51
my timeline either, which is weird.
00:36:53
I mean, I know a few people who do follow it and again that's
00:36:57
one of those shows that is on my very long I need Watch this show
00:37:01
list but I don't see a lot of people talking about it a lot.
00:37:05
I see a lot of people on the regular expense.
00:37:08
Now the last book of the series Leviathan Wakes came out three
00:37:14
weeks ago. I haven't read yet because I
00:37:16
want to finish the season. Now what happened with that is
00:37:19
that time Hawk who are formed James to Cory, this is two guys
00:37:23
but uses the one named James sa Corey.
00:37:26
Basically, they wrapped up a season six, they Did nine books.
00:37:31
So it's not quite a day, ecology, but they are coming out
00:37:33
of the novella next year to wrap it up.
00:37:36
Problem is, is that and this is a spoiler, you can cut it out.
00:37:39
But since I don't think many people in this podcast or
00:37:42
expanse fans, I'm just going to say these fence jump the shark
00:37:46
because book seven. Book H, look, hmm, they went
00:37:53
ahead 40 years in time, okay. So holding Naomi all of them.
00:37:59
They are they were in there. Actually 30, they were in their
00:38:03
mid-30s, they're now in their 60s.
00:38:06
Okay. So they jump the story 30 years
00:38:10
so they moved it ahead and it is fascinating but I question doing
00:38:18
that to a Series that was supposed to have 10 seasons on.
00:38:21
The network is a originally budget, expands for 10 seasons,
00:38:24
they got six, that's pretty good.
00:38:26
Run for a show that's been kicked off and whatever.
00:38:29
But my thing is, is that black fantasy people aren't
00:38:34
necessarily going to translate into into hardcore science black
00:38:39
sci-fi nerds that are in a Star Wars aren't going to necessarily
00:38:42
maybe go to Star Trek, Star Trek is, there's a lot of not
00:38:45
crossing over mmm, but at the same time, I Like you, I expect
00:38:50
to see more on some of these platforms that were on because
00:38:54
you'll see Marvel MCU stuff all day long.
00:38:58
But unless you go to a straight regular Forum, you're not going
00:39:02
to see a lot of the. So I'm asking myself where all
00:39:05
my black cakes at for the expanse, where all my black
00:39:07
Geeks for, you know, different shows that I know they're
00:39:11
watching. Hmm, I know they are watching,
00:39:14
you know, I mean I don't know. We need to start finding some of
00:39:18
those space. Cos I know that when I do see
00:39:21
some of the stuff it is, in the, there's a black Geeks of
00:39:24
DragonCon page that are, you know, they're all into the
00:39:28
stuff. Now again we get a lot of Marvel
00:39:31
stuff there too but I think that group is a good place to start
00:39:36
and then we probably need to look at some other spaces.
00:39:39
I mean listeners, if, you know of any black geek spaces for
00:39:44
Fantasy, you know, just all all around fantasy books or TV
00:39:49
shows, drop us a comment. Let us know.
00:39:52
Tell us where to find these people because.
00:39:54
Yeah, I mean for so long is, you know, just even in my own life,
00:40:00
a lot of the things that I have been interested in people have
00:40:03
been like, oh, you like that weird stuff for you, like the
00:40:05
stuff for, you know, some people even some people don't fool with
00:40:09
fantasy or science fiction, because of whatever they feel
00:40:15
like it's against their religion.
00:40:18
Oh, don't do it. But yeah, I would like to find
00:40:27
more groups with people of color, who are into these shows
00:40:31
to. Because, again, we don't have a
00:40:33
lot of black bass, science fiction, at least not to my
00:40:38
knowledge in media. I do know that there are a lot
00:40:42
of black authors who are doing fantasy and science fiction.
00:40:46
Now, as far as their writing, And eventually that stuff will
00:40:50
come up. I'm still waiting for any kind
00:40:54
of film news for the Children of Blood and Bone series coming out
00:40:58
of. Yeah, me, you know, there's
00:41:01
there's another book that I picked up last year.
00:41:03
I haven't of course you guys know I have not been able to
00:41:07
like sit down and just concentrate on reading much but
00:41:11
um could you put some stuff too? Yeah but also one of the things
00:41:15
my best friend did I think it was last year because Of the
00:41:19
pandemic. She actually started researching
00:41:22
more African-American and more authors of color writing fantasy
00:41:27
and science fiction. And she actually created a
00:41:29
spreadsheet. I have to find where she sent it
00:41:31
to me, but she, you know, she curated a list because she knows
00:41:36
what I like. She's like, hey, I think these
00:41:39
are some titles that you might want to check out, so I may have
00:41:42
to find it list and share it with you and and we'll see if we
00:41:45
can all get conversation view one that came out three weeks
00:41:48
ago. She's on my list.
00:41:49
I bought it and have it. Ready to close the skin of the
00:41:51
sea? It's by Natasha Bowen.
00:41:54
And it is a black, afro Centric, retelling telling of The Little
00:41:59
Mermaid, okay? It's a black mermaid story.
00:42:03
You're looking at me funny. No, I'm like that's, that's
00:42:07
interesting. Yeah, cuz cuz you know that what
00:42:11
what? Okay what you guys don't know is
00:42:12
that I'm a huge book nerd and I hold I know that by now Lori.
00:42:20
This is to our show and does not help.
00:42:23
That's true. And one of the things that I do
00:42:26
and I'm sure it just drives them nuts is every Tuesday, if I
00:42:30
remember it, I will literally send them both screenshots and
00:42:34
descriptions of the new books that come out there.
00:42:36
She does sto only Faithfully every summer.
00:42:47
I'm trying to go through my list is Specifically went and found
00:42:51
African or third world base books.
00:42:55
To tell them about. Yeah, I found a couple of really
00:43:00
interesting ones. I'm trying to go see her sir
00:43:02
problem. When you have over 1 books
00:43:04
and you constantly add books, you got to go through your book
00:43:07
list to see if you can remember what the title was.
00:43:10
God, I've got that. Wow, I do have all 12 books of
00:43:13
gal, suggests, okay. But but like, okay, Veena,
00:43:17
Durant via Durant. Bye.
00:43:19
Ashley st. Armet is a.
00:43:21
Ya book Allah Rick retired and Percy Jackson.
00:43:27
Let's see. I mean I'm just going through
00:43:30
trying to look I I do a lot of African third world.
00:43:36
There was one that I read in Prior the sun, which is an
00:43:41
Arabic fantasy. That is set in Old, World Persia
00:43:46
Iran. Okay, Some of the other ones
00:43:50
that I did was a couple that were set in the world of Joan
00:43:57
Wacker. She joined think of Mystery
00:43:59
Diners name. She wrote a book about seven,
00:44:02
eight years ago, from the genie and the Jinn and it was about a
00:44:05
Syrian Jennifer heard of that one and, and a Jewish a Golem.
00:44:12
Well, the sequel came out. Helen Wreckers, make the sequel
00:44:15
came out earlier this year. That is an awesome book.
00:44:18
Look to the other ones that I did is I found this really
00:44:22
awesome Africans that set in the sub Africa, where it's a
00:44:28
basically African City and the kid and his family are Scholars
00:44:33
and they go through the ruling court and it's all Africa day.
00:44:37
So I think that's just some of the things that I do.
00:44:40
I look for different things that were not necessarily the
00:44:44
traditional white King, Arthur type of book.
00:44:49
That you re we associate with fans right?
00:44:51
Right. Gotcha gotcha.
00:44:54
Well, we are actually going to wrap this up because it is now
00:44:58
midnight here. It's New Year's Day and I have
00:45:01
people calling me to wish me happy New Year.
00:45:03
So we're going to wrap this up saying Happy New Year.
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For those of you who have been listening to us this year, thank
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you so much for your support and your listenership.
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We hope you will stay with us next year in 2022.
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To so that we can bring you more great content like this.
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But for now, that's it for our show, you can find us online at
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www.haddadhyundai.com, we are on social media on Facebook,
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Instagram, and Twitter at Phantom hybrid.
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You can also find us on YouTube and on all major podcast
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streaming platforms. Thanks for listening, we hope
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you join the conversation next time.
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Happy New Year, New Year.