#marvel #marvelcinematicuniverse #MCU #disney+ Hanako, Anthony, Lorrie and Mike discuss our rankings for all of the MCU properties released in 2021. Included in our rankings are the following:
Films (in order of release):
Black Widow
Shang-Chi
Venom: Let There Be Carnage (we included it because of the mid-credit scenes in both this film and Spider-Man: No Way Home)
The Eternals
Spider-Man: No Way Home
Disney+ Shows:
Wanda Vision
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Loki
What If...?
Hawkeye
What do you think of our rankings? Leave us a comment and let us know!
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What's up hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of The Phantom hybrid podcast. This is hanako and I am here
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with Anthony Lori and Mike and we are changing things up a
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little bit on the podcast today. This is something that we've
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been talking about doing for a while now.
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But you know we mostly do TV show reviews and movie reviews
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but we're actually going to do a top 10 list today and it's
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inspired by saying everybody else.
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Talk about their Marvel. Ten-Four last year, you know we
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had nine different products come out from Marvel plus one.
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That was not quite Marvel but kind of sort of Marvel.
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So we all have different opinions about which ones were
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the best, which ones were not necessarily the worst but kind
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of ranked lower. So we just decided that we were
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going to go ahead and talk about those.
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So this is our Marvel 2021 countdown from The Phantom
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hybrid podcast. But before we get started, we
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have an honorable men mention that need to be brought up
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because Anthony has some feeling well maybe not some feelings
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about it, but you guys can't see our screen names on the video
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but Anthony says her MoDOT gets no love.
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Yeah, it's a show that we did not cover and I don't think any
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of us watched his modok on Hulu. I tried.
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I think I have it queued up and I'll I don't know.
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Start clipping my toenails and just lose interest because it's
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not like modok is like this beloved character, like who
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thought they would be a great show which is one of the reasons
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I think I want to watch it is to figure out why like why?
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Because I don't, you know, I didn't I never had even heard of
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this character until they started announcing plans for a
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show. The only thing I know about this
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is the character this got the really big head, right?
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Right. Yeah, that's all I know of this
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character. I think he's he's he's from Aim
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and the last time we heard of aim was was with which McCauley
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agents of s.h.i.e.l.d. Oh yeah.
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Well thank you and what's-his-name Guy Pearce
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played, which we'll call it advance that Iron Man, 3.
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Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah.
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That's right. Yeah, this is coming.
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Yeah, yeah, see, modok is one of those characters either.
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You love him or you hate him and he is Annoying.
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But he's extremely smart extremely power base but it's
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like half the time. He's considered junk the other
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half your Leo him again, it's true.
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Well apparently interesting, you say that because I would have
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said he's a character that you either hate him or you hate him.
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Yeah. Well it's like from what from
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what I saw I'm sorry what was it is from what I saw on like the
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episode and a half two episodes that I actually watched of it is
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like they were trying to show It's there were literally trying
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to show like a behind-the-scenes of him like his family and all
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of a sudden stuff like, you know, it was really it was, it
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was okay, but it was kind of contrived.
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I was like, you know, my life's not going to be any worse for
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not seeing this. So you know what better things
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me to watch whenever modok shows up.
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It's the same thing for me, when I'm watching a DC Comic property
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and the Royal Flush Gang shows up.
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I'm like oh God here we go again.
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I hate the Royal Flush Gang like with abiding passion.
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It was Fortune roulette. They can go kick rocks.
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So when I see motor idling. Hmm.
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Okay. Well is that something that you
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guys think you want to watch and talk about because again?
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No. Okay, okay.
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You just wanted to mention the fact that it was a Marvel
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properties. One of the Marvel properties.
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They came out last year, but they don't really promote the
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one really talks about. I just want to give a dimension,
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okay. Um, Durable, mention those nice
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of you. Yes.
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All right, so we're going to get into it, just to refresh
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everyone on what came out last year for Marvel.
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They released five TV shows for movies, and then there was
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Venom, which is technically not a Marvel Cinematic property, but
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it kind of sort of got pulled into it briefly and then push
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back out and we'll talk about that later.
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So we had one Division come out Falcon in the Winter Soldier
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Loki. What if and Hawkeye those were
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the Disney plus series. And then we had eternals black
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widow, Xiang XI and Spider-Man, no way home as far as the film
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property. So those are the ones that we
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are going to rank. And we're going to discuss them
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just briefly in this episode. We have covered the majority of
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these on the podcast. So you can actually go to our
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website www.patinsproject.com and you can find our discussions
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for those. The only ones we have not
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discussed Yet is eternals and that's because it's coming out
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on Disney plus next week and we wanted to wait until a lord was
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able to see it because Lori is not doing movie theaters at this
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moment because of the Kovac pandemic and she's on the west
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coast where it's a little bit worse.
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So we wanted to get her thoughts on it so we haven't covered
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eternals yet. We haven't done Venom yet
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because we just have had so much on our plate that we just
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haven't gotten around to it yet and I think that's actually it
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as far as the ones that Didn't cover, but we'll go into
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Anthony. You had a question or a comment.
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Well, I think I wanted to mention you say, Venom was kind
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of, not really a Marvel MCU thing and I was gonna say
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Spider-Man, the way home isn't even really cuz this Sony and
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not Disney. Yeah.
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But Tom Hollis item, a like Tom, Hollands Spider-Man has been
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completely in the MCU like we haven't seen him outside.
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Side of the MCU, like say Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man or Andrew
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Garfield Spider-Man, like they have no connection to the MCU in
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those properties, but his Spider-Man is part of the MCU.
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Even though technically speaking, it's a Sony product
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that that's what I meant as far as that.
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So that's the class where I said, never mind.
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Yeah. Okay, so I guess we're going to
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start from worst to first. Huh this do it that way.
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Let's go. Let's go with number 10.
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We're gonna go. The way that I see you guys on
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my screen. So we'll go with myself, Anthony
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Mike and Van Lori. Number 10 out of the 10.
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We mentioned I have enlisted last Venom.
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Let There Be Carnage. Anthony, what about you?
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I also have in them. Okay, they're becoming okay,
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that's that's two for two for four.
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What about you? My.
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Yeah, I have been up to but it's like I feel bad because I've
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been waiting so long to see Woody Harrelson as Carnage.
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I thought it was going to be Like a perfect card and she was
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good but it's just like in the in in reference to all these
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other movies, it just did not come up stuff.
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Yeah I think I have it for the same reason like somebody has to
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be last, you know, unfortunately and in comparison to all the
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other ones that it just kind of, was that for me?
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But Lord, what did you have listed for number 10?
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I have venom for two reasons, what?
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I haven't seen it. And two I have ever cared.
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Character. I mean Eddie Brock and all that.
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It's nice. It's a main Spider-Man villain
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friend / type of a thing, but it he has never appealed to me.
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And even when they let you know, Dan slott play around with it, a
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little bit of Joey cassada doing some stuff, never been a favor,
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okay? I get it.
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Okay. So since we all have venom
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listed as the the last we'll just go ahead and have a little
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bit of discussion about that thing, Mikey, you you mentioned
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yours for Me venom, I've never liked them is always been fun
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for me, you know what I'm saying?
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Watching the first movie and then watching this one it was a
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lot of fun. Now, as far as storyline and
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characters, Again, it doesn't compare with the rest of the
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Marvel properties that we've been watching, but I like
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watching Woody Harrelson and anything because he is such a
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fabulous actor and he's just, he can pull off psychotic and
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humorous at the same time, and it just looks so natural.
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I mean, even me thinking back to I cannot think my mind just went
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into a brain freeze but the the movie that he did with Juliette
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Lewis like Way Way Back. What was that feeling?
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That's the one Killers. Yes, that one.
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Even just back then he has this Charisma about him where he can
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play somebody. So deadly and psychotic and you
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still want to root for him. For some reason, I don't know
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what it is but I mean he's just he's just always appealed.
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Like I've been a fan of his for a Long time since since I was a
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child, you know. Cheers but yeah, I just it just
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didn't have enough to kind of push itself over the other
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Marvel properties for me. What about you Anthony?
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I didn't even know it was. There wasn't even enough to
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compare it to the other Marvel movies?
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It was I'm like Mike I was excited.
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Okay. The first one was fun.
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I it wasn't great but it was fun.
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I enjoyed it was funny. I got excited.
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Seeing will Harrelson was going to be a current is I was like I
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couldn't wait to see you and then that would be kinds comes
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out and the movies, too. We'll just use.
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I mean, the storyline kinda is bad there.
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Really isn't any chemistry between venom and Eddie Brock
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anymore? Is this, is this is weird.
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It's not even like a buddy cop thing.
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It's just weird. Stupid at be at Vaudeville at
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going on in. This is awful.
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And I just it just didn't do anything for me.
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And Woody Harrelson can save it because he just seems to be
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plaid and Ride Along like, oh, I guess I'm in this movie and I
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have to play a bad guy and he doesn't have he didn't his
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Charisma wasn't enough to carry the movie, right?
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It just wasn't enough, okay? That's why I have it last.
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Yeah, I was sitting there laughing.
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Like I was entertained, I was laughing because like a
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spectacle, I'm watching this train.
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Rick is, it should be funny as this tragic.
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Yeah, I think the best part of that movie for me, was in the
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end credits scene. And like I said, we haven't
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talked. We haven't talked about the
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movie on the podcast yet, Lori hasn't seen it.
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But she doesn't care about being spoiled because she doesn't care
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about character and movie. But in credit scene, we see
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Eddie Brock and Venom there are, you know, they're on a beach in
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Mexico and like The part of the in credit scene that we see
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they're in a hotel room. I think someone, well, they were
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in a hotel room and then you see this kind of light and something
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strange happens with them. And then, on the TV in front of
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them, appears J. Jonah.
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Jameson talking about the reveal that Peter Parker is Spider-Man
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in. This comes from the end of
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Spider-Man far from home, and there was something that Venom
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mentioned earlier saying that he Telling Eddie that his species
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is not, they're not necessarily individual, they kind of share a
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hive mind, so no matter where they are in the universe or
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Multiverse, apparently, they share memories.
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So, when this, this news cast came up Venom looks at the
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screen. And he was like, I know that
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guy, which is weird because this Venom apparently takes place in
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a different, you know, it's in a different Universe than our MC
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you or our universe. And so what happens is at the
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end of Spider-Man far from home, there is a second end credits
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scene, where Venom and Eddie Brock.
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Apparently with that little light, put them into our
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universe and we'll talk a little bit about spider went man, no
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way home and he's sitting there at the bar trying to figure out.
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Okay, so you have these superhero so he talked briefly
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about Iron Man. He talks about Hawk and he talks
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about fanos a little bit and then he gets pulled back out of
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this universe. But there is a little bit of the
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Venom stuff that really is don't want Stones, they don't want
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Stone, but that's why I said at the beginning, its kind of
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pulled into the MCU and being kind of thrust back out because
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for those few minutes, he was part of our world and he was
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learning about our Avengers And Thanos and everything that
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happened here. Don't know if that's going to
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play into the wider picture. Like I know that Sony is
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supposed to be doing three more Spider-Man movies supposedly
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they're going to include Tom Holland but we don't know what
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the storyline is going to be or you know, we don't know what's
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going to happen with that. So maybe they'll bring Venom
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back for these movies and maybe it'll be a better iteration of
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the character. I mean, I didn't I hate Tom
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Hardy is Eddie Brock. I thought he was great as a
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character. But like you said, Anthony, I
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think with this movie it became more of and you describe the
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perfect look like a ball bill at, it was kind of like Laurel
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and Hardy like slapstick. Like one person is made to be
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the dunce and the other person is supposed to be the smarter
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more aggressive one. And that's that is kind of how
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it was with that film. So I agree with you.
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But moving on, let's go to number 9.
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So I picked eternals as my number 9, which is weird that
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it's so hard down because I actually really loved the movie.
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But in comparison to all the other things, you know, all the
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other properties had characters that I was already invested in
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and and where their stories were going and the eternals was knew,
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we had new characters and it was kind of its kind of I feel like
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one of the main jump off points for the new phase of Marvel
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films. So I wasn't as emotionally
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attached to that one even though I did love the film and even
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though it had my babies Richard Madden and kick Arrington and
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it, it just still wasn't enough to make it towards the top of my
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list. So Anthony, what about you?
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Number nine, I have black widow as well.
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So far down. Yes.
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Okay. And I know it might be a little
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controversial. Oil.
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Okay. I think I think the task master
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has a lot to do with it. I think that was, yeah, you had
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a, you guys had a problem with tasks that that that was look at
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my face. They made, I was almost over for
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thanks story. Is this and that actually killed
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the movie for me, okay? With the taskmasters, you just
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killed. It was no way to come back from
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that for me. Oh no.
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I enjoyed a lot of the comedy and learning about the Tasha's
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family. The rig Guardian was funny and
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who does a little Rachel Weisz, but I don't know.
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It is skin. Tight leather, white suit?
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Yes, I can Taskmaster. I just found that last third of
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the movie, absolutely ridiculous.
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And and that's why it's so far down on my list.
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Slightly above a Vaudeville act. Okay, Mike.
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What about you? All right, so for reference, I
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did have black widow as number nine but I actually switched and
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I put what if at number 9 now really okay?
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Wow, let me explain. Okay.
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I this is like almost an impossible task to rank these
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things. So I had to like kind of do it
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as far as like kind of impactful things in my opinion.
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So there's a reason that I moved Black Widow from being At number
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9. But it's like what if was just
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It was good. It was probably one of my
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favorite things that would lose those really good thing.
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I think it was very ambitious. My Marvel it's just that I have
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when I get to my next one I have a reason but it's just it was
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kind of as far as other ones go. It was just not where I would
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have put it. So yes.
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What if some not for me? Okay, Laura, what about you?
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I'm gonna get hell. Oh, Loki, Well, you know, I'm
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actually not surprised because you weren't really into low
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wasn't until like the last two episodes.
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So I'm really not surprised that it right low for you.
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The reason why it did ranked solo for me, is that my husband?
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I watched the first couple episodes first episode was
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possible and he loves Loki and we were watching it and watching
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it and then I start watching it by myself.
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By the time, we got to the third episode, I'm like, okay, this
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isn't what I really thought it was going to be because we had
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had the excitement of 1 division.
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We had the excitement of Falcon where Soldier and then you get
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this time variance and see Loki did a plus for me because it
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reminded me on how great and how much I was missing good Doctor
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Who episodes because to me I was just watching a long longer
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version. So when you get to the hole with
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the Fimo Loki and Time very ends and I was excited for Owen
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Wilson. He didn't really do much.
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I got this thing where I was like and then of course you know
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Kang, I mean the actor is fine but I thought he was very
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buffoonish in his portrayal, that's just me.
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And I just, I did not care about and I have not gone back and
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looked at it. Mark hasn't finished watching
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it. It's my number 9.
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Okay. So piggybacking off of that.
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Lucky was actually my number. Great.
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And again, has nothing to do with the with the show because I
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actually did like the show. I didn't like it as much as I
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thought, I was gonna like it, um, especially in comparison to
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some of the other shows or movies.
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But I think for me getting to see Loki, shine a little bit
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more and get out of the shadow of Thor and seeing that he was a
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little bit more complex. A character than we've been
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given in the MCU, you know, in the The Wider end MCU that was
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the appeal of the show for me to see him have layers to his
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character. The reveal of he who remains was
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fun for me because I like Jonathan Majors.
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He did have a little bit of a comical revealed to the
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character but from what I understand that was kind of on
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purpose and also because there needed to be some Dov I guess
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boundary or some kind of like we needed to know that this was not
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technically Kang the Conqueror. This was a different version of
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the character and I think he played it a little bit
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differently than he plans to play Kang and Ant-Man so but I
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did love the show is just it wasn't enough to rank it higher
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on my list and comparisons to some of the others.
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So What about you, Anthony? Hey wait, for me.
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Was you Turtles. Okay, for a lot of the same
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reasons was that my cue here and I know you can't with it.
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Everyday trials yet. Ironically, that was me either
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the same I liked it a little more.
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I don't think they don't, I don't feel like they went as far
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as they could have as far as the story goes, it really felt like
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an origin story like the first movie of a Trilogy that's going
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to give it kind of like, Captain America Winter Soldier, which
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isn't a great movie. But now that you've seen all the
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other MC, it's not. Did you did?
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Yes I did. Yes, I did you heard me?
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Not a great movie. However it is much better.
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Now that you know where the story has gone for for Steve
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Rogers. Okay.
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Watching you now watching it now you like okay it's actually
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pretty good but with it first came out it being like s it is
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so it's kind of how I feel about you Turtles right now I think
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time will tell how good it is but for now it's an eight.
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Is he for me? Okay, what about you Mike?
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All right, my number eight is Black Widow and it was number
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nine but I'm glad I moved it up. Only for Florence.
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Pugh is that's baby. That was going to be your
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reasoning because it's like, I mean, they introduce her.
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And she's going to be a titular character and important
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character going forward in this phase of the Marvel Universe.
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And she did such a good job with this portrayal and letters.
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She really is one of my favorite characters right now in the MCU
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I mean plus is I I gotta be I got to be honest.
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I was kind of underwhelmed by this movie.
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Okay, donate me but Mr. But just like Anthony said just like you
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know every time every time it's brought up that fucking
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Taskmaster, bullshit just gets me because it's wrong.
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They didn't have to do it. It was unnecessary.
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It was heinous and they could have done anything anything else
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if any other character ER, but they decided to fuck with the
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Taskmaster, do you? She's lucky she's done number
00:23:22
10. But yeah, number 8 for me it's
00:23:24
Black Widow. Okay, Laurie.
00:23:28
What about you Black Widow? Oh okay.
00:23:32
Yes master. Let's just say that I knuckle
00:23:36
through the movie only because I was interested to see that black
00:23:40
widow, finally got them her own movie years.
00:23:44
After they show me, which I thought Was a travesty I Like
00:23:49
Scarlett, Johansson. I think that her character was
00:23:52
interesting enough. Especially in the early MCU
00:23:54
movies, she gets her movie and it's just okay.
00:23:59
The Taskmaster think, I think I could have overlooked it.
00:24:03
If they had made him a guy, having the girl is to have
00:24:07
spoiler, kind of took me out of it because it was so different
00:24:11
from what we're used to. The other thing that I didn't
00:24:13
care for is that it just was a A boring movie.
00:24:19
I mean for stuff you couldn't save it.
00:24:22
So Johansen certainly couldn't save it and I'm sitting there
00:24:25
just bored out of my skull. So yeah my mine in this round is
00:24:29
Black Widow because I thought the movie could have done better
00:24:31
and it was about five years too late to give us the movie, okay?
00:24:36
So Black Widow was my number seven for that same reason that
00:24:42
you just said Laurie I feel like it could have been a better
00:24:45
movie if they It actually released it within the timeline
00:24:50
that it was supposed to be released, but giving us Natasha
00:24:55
story after we already know her to be dead.
00:24:58
I think was a huge mistake. I still enjoyed the movie, I
00:25:03
thought the movie was very entertaining, but like a lot of
00:25:10
people said, it felt like it was a black widow movie but it
00:25:14
didn't feel like Natasha's movie.
00:25:16
It felt Like a jumping off point for Yelena.
00:25:19
Which I mean, I don't have a problem with because your Lena
00:25:22
is one of my, like Mike said, she has become one of my
00:25:25
favorite characters in the MCU, even in the short time that
00:25:29
we've seen her known her, you know, we saw her in the film.
00:25:32
And then she appeared in the Hawkeye Series.
00:25:34
So what we've seen of her I'm enjoying, I just felt like they
00:25:39
should have given us that film years ago and I think that would
00:25:43
have I think for a lot of people I would have explained Natasha
00:25:48
sacrifice a little bit better you know, because it would have
00:25:53
been and maybe even not so much more that because I think we
00:25:58
understood it a little bit more after watching the Hawkeye
00:26:00
series and seeing what you Lena story was.
00:26:03
But I think the action scenes were good, I think it was nice
00:26:08
to see, Natasha get to have a story on her own, where she was
00:26:12
the focus in that sense and not as one of the guys.
00:26:17
You get what I'm saying as far as with the Avengers group, you
00:26:19
know, she's always been portrayed as like she's the
00:26:22
mother of the group. She's the one who's always
00:26:24
picking up after the guys, and she's the one always holding
00:26:27
them together, so it was nice to see her.
00:26:29
Have some autonomy from the group.
00:26:33
I just wish they would have done it a little bit earlier within
00:26:38
the MCU so that we could probably have a better
00:26:41
understanding of her character, but I still enjoyed it.
00:26:46
It was A fun movie. I went to go see it at 40 x.
00:26:50
So I got to do with all the motion and the the water from
00:26:53
like rain hitting me in the wind.
00:26:55
So that was a fun experience to but yeah that was that was just
00:26:58
so distracting. Those just got launched almost
00:27:02
got launched out of my seat with that too.
00:27:04
It's like I was adjusting myself at the wrong time when I was
00:27:07
like what? Yeah I enjoyed it.
00:27:10
Those fun. So but yeah it's number seven on
00:27:12
my list. So Anthony, what you Got before
00:27:18
I reveal my number seven I think I said Captain America.
00:27:21
The Winter Soldier or did I say Captain America?
00:27:23
The First Avenger you said Winter Soldier.
00:27:25
I meant the First Avenger. Okay.
00:27:29
That makes that makes more sense.
00:27:30
Yeah that makes more sense. Okay.
00:27:33
So my number seven was Hawkeye. Wow because it was a slow burn
00:27:42
for me like it didn't start out great.
00:27:44
Like I went to excited about it now. excited about it before
00:27:47
are, but after the First episodes like okay, You know, it
00:27:53
took about three episodes before I was like, okay, I kind of like
00:27:58
it. So was like, this slow burn with
00:28:00
the crescendo where it finished strong, but it started out
00:28:03
really weak for me. So that's why having number
00:28:06
seven. I mean, I like the character.
00:28:09
I'm not the biggest fan of the character, but I see the
00:28:13
potential if he wants to continue doing this, like, being
00:28:18
the mentor for the Young Avengers.
00:28:20
If they ever do, we have in the show, I think he'd be Perfect.
00:28:23
Okay, but for his own show, there are other people in the so
00:28:28
much more interesting than him. It go with.
00:28:30
The more interesting Zack was more interesting to you know,
00:28:36
his name was Jack, don't call of shock, all right, my number
00:28:48
seven is, eternals only reason I have eternals over that is Cuz
00:28:53
of the grand scope of the eternals like I was impressed by
00:28:58
the effects if not so much like How It Was Written like it did
00:29:03
dragon certain spots but overall I thought the way they did it
00:29:07
was outstanding and to have the way they set up all the
00:29:10
different new turtles and have them be so much different than
00:29:13
the next one was really cool. The Twist at the end.
00:29:17
I kind of expected it but you towards the middle of the movie
00:29:20
I kind of expected. What was going to happen.
00:29:22
Like who betrayed? I was I kind of suspected it but
00:29:25
it didn't really hurt anything for me.
00:29:29
The post-credits scene was pretty damn good that that got
00:29:33
me really curious to see how this a couple of them did like
00:29:38
the one with the black night was pretty badass.
00:29:41
I was like, okay I'm ready for that but then the other one with
00:29:44
Harry Styles like got me because I was like because someone
00:29:48
someone has said it and I know Hanukkah was mad that it got
00:29:51
spoiled but I was actually pretty, I'm actually intrigued
00:29:56
by how he's going to be represented.
00:29:58
So you just form the potential of the future of How It's Gonna
00:30:02
be in the future. I got a transit number 7, okay.
00:30:05
My number 7 is also the eternals, for two reasons.
00:30:10
One, I haven't seen it yet, so I'm interested to see how it's
00:30:14
going to go. For me.
00:30:15
It falls into the same category as the Inhumans and any other
00:30:20
family power group that is it the Mentor.
00:30:23
The Avengers that has a family type setting because once you
00:30:27
get into that era type of stuff in the Marvel comic book
00:30:31
universe or just MCU it gets weird quick because they
00:30:35
designate them as weird. I dunno.
00:30:37
What happened in the movie and I know about the internet.
00:30:40
I know who showed up and he might be related to somebody.
00:30:43
We've seen earlier, my thing is that listening to different
00:30:48
podcast, comic geek speek, being one of them listening to couple
00:30:52
reviews He's now playing with Arnie and his group.
00:30:57
I get the feeling that the director did a good job,
00:31:01
directing the movie. But whoever wrote this movie
00:31:03
needs to be taken out back to the ghost is Stanley, giving a
00:31:08
stack of Essentials and go read and then come back to me because
00:31:14
it just sounds like a hot mess so that's why it was my number
00:31:17
7. Let's see.
00:31:21
Number six, I actually Switched. My number six is I had Hawkeyes
00:31:26
number 6 but I think I'm going with what?
00:31:28
If just because I enjoyed Hawkeye little bit more.
00:31:33
What if was a lot of fun? Because we got to see different
00:31:38
iterations of characters that we all know and love as far as like
00:31:42
you know, Peggy Carter being Captain Carter instead of Steve
00:31:46
being Captain America you know, getting to see the non enhanced
00:31:51
version of Steve. Steve still play a good part in
00:31:54
the show, but he's not, you know, that main hero like we
00:31:58
used to sing, We got to see different versions of t'challa.
00:32:01
We got to see a very interesting version of kill Monger, it was a
00:32:06
lot of fun exploring, those different variants.
00:32:09
I guess is the best way to say of those characters.
00:32:12
But, um, The Watcher got on my nerves.
00:32:17
He really did. He, did I have to say?
00:32:21
I'm not. I cannot interfere except for
00:32:24
when it's convenient for you but um, yeah, I did enjoy the show
00:32:30
but the Watcher kind of worked my nerves, but given what we've
00:32:37
seen in the trailer for Doctor Strange, knowing that one of
00:32:40
those characters may end up showing up in that strange and
00:32:44
Multiverse of Madness. That's, that's interesting.
00:32:46
So I like I like what it did as far as showing us how not
00:32:51
necessarily how the Multiverse works, but just how different
00:32:55
the Multiverse can be like the different universes and how
00:32:59
people who are the same can either be similar, just like
00:33:03
Natasha's character. She was able to go to another
00:33:07
world that lost their black widow and it was kind of similar
00:33:10
or, you know, like I said, seeing someone who is completely
00:33:13
different Like Captain America or kill Monger or I mean even
00:33:21
the zombies was weird. So you know, that that was that
00:33:25
was a lot of fun for me. We received that we should not
00:33:29
spoil the morning because I'm sure people haven't seen how
00:33:32
these. But anyway, I'll put it in the
00:33:35
show notes and the show description, my number six is
00:33:42
Loki. Okay, and it's because probably
00:33:48
the four or five or six were tough.
00:33:51
Like they're all right there. Mmm.
00:33:54
All right. There you and I get some wood
00:33:56
lucky because Same thing with sort of a slow burn, you hit
00:34:02
some interesting things. You know, it had a lot of
00:34:06
fertile ground for a lot of different theories but I think
00:34:11
the in the end for me it was Seeing Jonathan major and see
00:34:17
who remains. And and the explosion of the
00:34:23
possibilities with the Multiverse, right?
00:34:27
That kind of puts it up on my list and Tom Hiddleston is
00:34:31
great. So yes, very much so that's why
00:34:35
I have it is I have it is six. Black couldn't go any higher
00:34:38
because there were long stretches where I was just kind
00:34:41
of bored. Okay.
00:34:43
Yeah I have loci at 6:00 as well.
00:34:47
Yeah. I Love Loki.
00:34:50
I thought was really good but this is we were covering it.
00:34:53
I think I even said that this is the only show that had like kind
00:34:57
of a lull like that because with the shows that we were watching
00:35:01
before each episode progressively, got better, I
00:35:04
think this is the first show for me where when they got to the
00:35:08
when he got to the plenary at the planet that was being
00:35:11
destroyed. I can't remember the name of it
00:35:14
but that episode really kind of ground things to a screeching
00:35:17
halt for me. It was Really slow.
00:35:20
There was a, I mean, as if knee says, there was a lot of walking
00:35:23
while walking do something, stop walking.
00:35:26
But I really like low-key, I like Jonathan Majors, portrayal
00:35:31
of he who remains and the fact that it's set up the splintering
00:35:37
of the Multiverse, is kind of a key thing for everything going
00:35:42
forward. But I just feel like, like, in
00:35:45
my top five, I have them where they are for a reason.
00:35:48
So that's kind of Put Loki there.
00:35:51
So yeah that's where my number six is.
00:35:54
My number six is because I haven't seen it.
00:35:58
I know exactly what happened in the plot, it sounds awesome and
00:36:02
I anticipated going into my top three and at Spider-Man.
00:36:06
Okay I know what happened. Somebody in there passed away
00:36:13
that I'm going to go. It sounds like it's a heck of a
00:36:16
movie. It just sounds like okay My
00:36:19
favorite Spider-Man movie is Spider-Man 2 with Tobey Maguire
00:36:21
because it was Doc, Ock is my personal favorite.
00:36:24
So I love Krishna Thomas Haden Church all the way back from
00:36:29
dead Stacey. Yes I'm that old and I loved him
00:36:32
as Sammy. I didn't see Jamie Foxx as
00:36:35
Electro because I just didn't see those movies, but Spider-Man
00:36:40
is a special place in my heart. He used one of my favorite.
00:36:43
I know I don't talk about them a whole whole lot, but that is one
00:36:46
of my favorites and my favorite run, of course.
00:36:50
Anything by Dan slott, writing him, my favorite graphic novel
00:36:54
series is Ezekiel run, which I thought was awesome and the
00:37:00
different iterations watching Spider-Man.
00:37:02
When I was a kid, teenager Amazing, Spider-Man Spider-Man
00:37:05
and his friends. It you know, the Joe Perry.
00:37:07
One with the theme song, I just love Spider-Man.
00:37:11
So because I haven't seen because I don't go to the
00:37:14
movies, this is a placeholder possibly to move up.
00:37:19
And that's my pick. I can tell you now it will
00:37:21
definitely move up once because Skyrocket of your list actually
00:37:25
is yep. Definitely number five, for me,
00:37:30
Hawkeye. And for several different
00:37:34
reasons, I mean, obviously kind of like you said, my my top five
00:37:38
is there for a reason, especially the top three slots.
00:37:42
They're there for specific reasons, but we just got
00:37:46
finished covering Hawkeye on this show. a few weeks ago,
00:37:51
Hawkeyes or I should say specifically Clint Barton is
00:37:54
actually one of my favorite characters in the MCU, because
00:37:59
of his deadpan humor, his dry humor also just because he's one
00:38:05
of the few humans that we get to see interact with the Avengers
00:38:10
or Beyond The Avengers team, interact with all of these
00:38:12
threats and he holds his own, you know and actually if you
00:38:17
think about a lot Of the things that he's done as part of the
00:38:21
Avengers, he's very important to the group, and I think he's one
00:38:25
of the people that is very undervalued.
00:38:28
He's very, you know, he's very much the underdog out of the
00:38:32
group. And I think the show, maybe not
00:38:37
so much showcase him as the Avenger that were used to seeing
00:38:42
him. Yes, we did get some Avenger
00:38:44
like moments, but I think this show was more.
00:38:47
So the passing of the torch Which from him.
00:38:50
As Hawkeye to Kate Bishop is Hawkeye, but we got to see a
00:38:54
different version of him. You got to see him as the
00:38:56
father. You got to see him as the
00:38:58
husband. You got to see him as the
00:39:01
mentor, even though, you know, he very adamantly states.
00:39:06
He is not a role model, but you get to see him on all of these
00:39:09
different versions of himself. And I think it was a great way
00:39:15
to explore the character. We did finally get to see Or
00:39:19
hear a little bit more by his friendship with Natasha, which
00:39:23
I'm a little bummed that we didn't get more of that within
00:39:26
the MCU or even in this show. But his characters not dead.
00:39:31
And, you know, Scarlett Johansson is taking care of her
00:39:35
issues that she had with Disney so maybe we can see something in
00:39:39
the future that focuses a little bit more on that friendship, but
00:39:43
I loved seeing him with K even though she got on my nerves at
00:39:47
the beginning of the show by the end of the She'll I won't say I
00:39:50
was like a big fan of hers, but I could see the potential for
00:39:55
how great her character can be, you Lena, being part of the show
00:39:59
and then getting to see what happened with her because of the
00:40:03
blip post blip finding out about her, wanting to come after clamp
00:40:10
because she just didn't know what happened to her sister.
00:40:12
She just knew she came back from being flipped and her sister was
00:40:14
gone. So getting to see that moment
00:40:17
between them for me was very Powerful.
00:40:19
It also was not long enough but it was it was again, Great
00:40:25
Character driven show and I enjoyed it a lot.
00:40:29
Well, my number five was one division.
00:40:33
Okay and I enjoy One Division, I like the format I liked
00:40:41
everything already know what no, no goddamn of all the field.
00:40:49
Without no longer just like well, you said the top five,
00:40:57
there is a reason why they are where they are.
00:40:59
And I think the thing that helps One Division out for me is just
00:41:04
how they deal with grief and and addressing mental health.
00:41:10
Because I think that's very important and and, you know, and
00:41:16
they kind of solidifies its place in the Pantheon of TV
00:41:20
shows for me and it was good, it's just, it wasn't good enough
00:41:26
to get in higher than 5. That's only because you're mad
00:41:29
because your theories didn't pan out.
00:41:31
No, maybe a little, well, because the being jerked around
00:41:39
by the Riders. It wasn't fun.
00:41:42
Yeah, it ended up that not being funny.
00:41:44
I don't know if they thought it was going to be fun or they
00:41:47
thought it was cool to put All the stuff in have a speculate,
00:41:51
but you got to be kind of ridiculous, and I know we
00:41:56
probably did it to ourselves but they were intensely putting
00:42:01
things in there that were dead ends.
00:42:04
That meant nothing, and someone somewhere knew that people were
00:42:08
going to do that and they just fed the flames, and I don't
00:42:12
appreciate that. So think they expected it to get
00:42:15
to the to where it got you. No, like they'd probably
00:42:20
thought. Okay, this would be fun.
00:42:21
And we talked about this before, they're probably thought, oh,
00:42:24
this would be fun. This would be nice for the comic
00:42:26
book fans to see this Easter Egg.
00:42:28
And I think it just got a lot bigger than they anticipated and
00:42:34
I will say that maybe in the later, the later shows, they may
00:42:39
have corrected that because where they kind of gave us like
00:42:41
little breadcrumbs to follow. They have for the most part,
00:42:46
panned out, you know. Just like, with Loki, you know,
00:42:52
Mike was very adamant about Kang or he who remains showing up in
00:42:57
the show. You were like, no, they're not
00:42:58
going to do that to us. They're not going to do that to
00:43:00
us. And then we ended up getting him
00:43:02
and the same with the Hawkeyes series that we're, you know, we
00:43:06
got to see open. Yeah, Wilson Fisk, show up.
00:43:12
So I think maybe they've learned their lesson.
00:43:16
I don't think that was very, I don't think that was
00:43:18
intentional. Tensional in a bad way that they
00:43:21
did, that one Division. I just, I really don't think
00:43:24
they expected people to take to it the way that they did.
00:43:28
I know baby, but whoever thought it was fun to do all of that it
00:43:32
turns out. No, it's not.
00:43:35
Yeah, yeah, I know. What about you might want?
00:43:38
You got it. Number five, I have cockeyed
00:43:40
number five as well. Okay.
00:43:43
Listen, just for being right. It should be in for me.
00:43:47
Being right. About Kingpin.
00:43:49
To have it at number one, just, you know, but I mean, I love
00:43:53
this show, but like I said, I have reasons for my rankings.
00:43:57
I really, really thought that I thought I have a newfound
00:44:03
respect for Clint Barton do this.
00:44:06
I actually like Kate throughout the I think as we've discussed
00:44:10
when we do, we talked about it. I mean, she's playing the role
00:44:13
that she was, he's playing the role of a rich affluent.
00:44:16
Definitely kid. Who's trying to do better and is
00:44:18
trying to figure it out. So I pretty much took it for
00:44:21
that and I thought she did a really good job of it.
00:44:24
Yelena is my spirit animal. I love her to death, especially
00:44:28
putting, especially putting hot sauce.
00:44:31
On macaroni and cheese, which it belongs on anchor.
00:44:37
At any rate. No, yeah that was good.
00:44:41
Stop it that money I thought was a great series but it's like my
00:44:46
like my top four are actually there.
00:44:49
I actually just looked at my top four again and I was thinking
00:44:51
about rearranging them like no I'm leaving because I'm gonna go
00:44:54
with flat out with initially, so yeah, but that one would
00:44:57
definitely be higher otherwise, but it's just right there
00:45:01
forward just it is what it is basically is what it is.
00:45:08
It gave me chills because I've been reading.
00:45:11
What? If since I was a kid and it gave
00:45:14
me two of the best animated episodes I've ever seen in my
00:45:19
life. The first one that just went
00:45:21
from high to low to heartbreak and back again, was the doctor
00:45:25
strange episode. Oh my God.
00:45:28
That was like, the best animation I've seen in years.
00:45:32
I mean, Stephen Strange is already a complicated character
00:45:35
and the way that they did. And what happened at the end.
00:45:39
I was like I watched that thing twice in a row.
00:45:42
The first time I saw it, the second episode that blew me away
00:45:46
was the zombie episode. Now, if you re comic books, if
00:45:50
you collect comic books, there was a period of time where
00:45:53
marbled basically threw up the zombies on everything.
00:45:57
Now, I'm not a big zombie person.
00:45:58
I don't watch The Walking Dead or anything like that.
00:46:01
I do collect comic books though but the zombie comics, the
00:46:05
Marvel Zombies. I All full-fledged in mainly
00:46:09
before the covers but I love everything about.
00:46:12
So this to see this, it was awesome.
00:46:14
The reason it's not higher is because this was our only
00:46:19
animated show that we got from them this year that was marble
00:46:22
related and I wanted to have something to compare it to if I
00:46:27
could compare it to something, it would be.
00:46:29
The Star Wars thing that they have on Disney plus, it's like
00:46:32
the mini vinaigrettes are like little short, five to seven
00:46:36
minutes. Isn't.
00:46:38
Yes, that would be comparable but it's not marble.
00:46:42
So yeah. My pick for this round is, what
00:46:44
if okay? All right, number for getting
00:46:47
into the top four. So I have one division listed as
00:46:51
my number four, for a lot of the reasons that Anthony mentioned
00:46:55
for his pick. I loved the way that they
00:46:59
approached it like the way that they started out to show, of
00:47:02
course, one division was the first of the Disney plus Marvel
00:47:05
shows. So it At to set a precedence and
00:47:09
I think it did that in a big way.
00:47:12
Just the format of it coming in as like the the, the sixth, the
00:47:19
50s and 60 sitcoms and at first you're kind of looking at it.
00:47:22
Like, okay. So what exactly are we doing
00:47:26
here? And then to find out that this
00:47:28
is actually like a manifestation of Wanda's grief, her, you know,
00:47:34
being able to deal with the blip her being able to do With the
00:47:37
death of vision and or rather not dealing with it.
00:47:42
Truthfully, you know, her creating this whole world where
00:47:45
they could live happily ever after and not think about it.
00:47:49
And the fact that she created this world by accident and
00:47:53
wasn't even aware that she had done this at first and then to
00:47:57
see the world kind of fall apart for her and her having 21
00:48:02
acknowledge what she's done and then to try to fix it.
00:48:07
As well as come into her own powers.
00:48:09
As the Scarlet Witch, it was just an emotional rollercoaster
00:48:15
watching all of this and having to feel her pain and at the same
00:48:19
time, having to look at her and say one day, what you did hurt
00:48:22
people, you have to be held accountable to it at some point
00:48:26
and, you know, we didn't get a lot of closure with her show
00:48:32
because we know we're going to see her again and dr.
00:48:34
Strange. But Just having to go on that
00:48:39
Journey with her and being introduced to some other
00:48:42
characters. Some good, some not so good.
00:48:45
Director, dick is still right there at the top of people that
00:48:48
I can't stand, you know character-wise.
00:48:51
But the fact that we got to see Jimmy and Darcy, again, we got
00:48:56
introduced to Monica and Agatha. It was just, it was a really
00:49:02
great show, you know? It was a great way to kick off
00:49:05
this whole Disney. Plus Thing with the Marvel
00:49:07
series and hopefully we get to see some of those characters
00:49:12
again in other, you know, in other shows or movies.
00:49:16
But yeah, it was it was pretty good.
00:49:19
It was it was one of the best that they did last year, okay?
00:49:23
So my number four was with you. Because for a lot of the reasons
00:49:29
Lori said growing up. What if was one of my favorite?
00:49:33
My favorite comic books and actually see a show that you
00:49:37
would never think that this will be something that we would
00:49:39
actually have a show about seeing such Allah as Star-Lord
00:49:46
was awesome stream. Supreme was incredible.
00:49:53
Captain Carter is like I just go on and on and on about all the
00:49:57
different versions of these characters and I just thought it
00:50:01
was fabulous and I thought it was a good, a good addition to
00:50:05
the and of loci with the see the possibilities of a Multiverse
00:50:10
and what we can do with the and the potential there for them
00:50:15
bringing new characters across multiverses like the fact that
00:50:19
they took the Watcher took a black widow.
00:50:22
I took a Natasha who didn't have anyone and put them with the
00:50:27
world where then the Tasha was gone.
00:50:29
I mean, this imagine the possibilities, especially with
00:50:33
the Black Panther and needing a new Switch, Allah that we could
00:50:37
get another to child from another unit.
00:50:39
Is this, my mind is just exploding with all the
00:50:43
possibilities, but yet, it's number four, so that's it, it's
00:50:50
almost. Yeah, I really like the, I
00:50:52
really enjoy. Watson with it.
00:50:54
Okay, okay. Before I say this one, I just
00:50:57
want to explain that two through four are basically 2A 2B and 2C.
00:51:03
They're completely interchangeable like tomorrow, I
00:51:05
could change my mind and switch them all up.
00:51:08
Number four, for me is Captain America, the Winter Soldier.
00:51:10
Now, I love this show, like there are so many moments that
00:51:16
hit me in my heart, that beat that had me in tears, too.
00:51:19
Heavy cheering had me on edge of my seat.
00:51:22
There's so Much action. There was so much, like, really
00:51:26
good, really good fight sequences like someone some of
00:51:30
the best fight choreography this year.
00:51:32
Like especially with the doorman Lodge, a beating up, Great Value
00:51:35
cap, and making them cry. That was awesome.
00:51:41
It's really was and seeing CM Sam in that suit.
00:51:46
Like who I still get chills? Just seeing it.
00:51:49
But like I said, there's a reason I have these Are the way
00:51:53
they are but not to say that I didn't enjoy it more than the
00:51:59
shows and movies above it. It's just that there's a method
00:52:03
to my madness even though it might not seem like it.
00:52:05
But I did really like it. I look forward to looking really
00:52:08
looking forward to seeing this movie Nick later, this year,
00:52:11
like it's guy. I'm really, really, I need that
00:52:14
like, in a hurry. But yeah, Cap'n Cap'n, Winter
00:52:17
Soldier is my number for my number four is cockeyed.
00:52:23
The reason why it's number four, even though I raged about the
00:52:27
law refers is that I once again, think that Natasha and Clint got
00:52:33
the short end because they were the last of the Avengers to get
00:52:37
anything individually done for their characters.
00:52:40
I am highly disappointed because I believe that if Natasha can
00:52:46
get a movie Hawkeye should have got to move.
00:52:49
But instead he got a Disney plus TV series which is fine.
00:52:53
Any was entertaining and I did like, Echo.
00:52:56
And I did like the mom and I like the whole thing with the
00:53:01
kids and Christmas and I loved it more than I thought I was
00:53:06
going to love it. It's not in the top three
00:53:10
because they did a few things I had to go in.
00:53:12
But it does stand out because I was watching it with my husband
00:53:16
and Mark said to me, he says this is quietly.
00:53:19
One of the best things that they have done this year because he
00:53:21
goes, I In know I needed a Hawkeye Series in my life and I
00:53:25
have to agree. The other thing that really got
00:53:28
me is that they did something that was so jaw-droppingly.
00:53:32
Horrible and awesome. At the same time is the final
00:53:37
episode in credit where they had a full ten minute song for
00:53:41
Rogers the vehicle. You know wasn't that long?
00:53:45
It was like four minutes and And he says, to me with a completely
00:53:54
straight face. Don't ever show that to me
00:53:56
again. No, I need it.
00:53:57
I will divorce, you know, ever show.
00:53:59
That's in the again. It felt like ten minutes of
00:54:02
torture. You were watching all.
00:54:12
He was like, we're not showing the city that nieces and
00:54:15
nephews. No, no, we're not heels, no,
00:54:17
we're not doing it, and I'm laughing at him and I'm watching
00:54:20
this and I love musicals and I'm going Oh, the fact that they
00:54:24
actually put time and Pen to pad to do this so that made it
00:54:29
number four. I'm just gonna say they wrote
00:54:33
the music room lyrics. They did all of them waiting for
00:54:36
Dragon Con because you know somebody is gonna do it.
00:54:41
Rogers the musical cosplay and some were probably they will
00:54:45
probably do that whole musical. I'm just waiting.
00:54:48
I'm just waiting, there's going to be a class long time.
00:54:52
There's gonna Flash, yes, that's exactly how they got.
00:54:55
There will be so many. So many riders of musical flash,
00:54:57
mobs shoulder, just popping up out of nowhere.
00:55:00
I'm just waiting for it. I think someone already posted
00:55:02
something in the Dragon Con Facebook group and I was like,
00:55:05
hey, we need somebody to play this character.
00:55:07
Oh jeez, waiting for it, I'm just waiting for it.
00:55:10
Oh yeah it was my friends were the yes but I'm waiting for it.
00:55:13
I just I think I need to see it live in Cosplay and Dragon Con
00:55:20
and then I'll be good. I don't ever have to see it
00:55:21
again but But it I mean it was it was a fun way to end the
00:55:25
series. It was interesting but that the
00:55:29
other final note is that I loved Hawkeye because he gave me at
00:55:33
the end Kingpin and I love Kingpin and to see him portrayed
00:55:39
the correct way power-wise and the fact that Vinson was density
00:55:43
of density of corn or whatever his name is, come back from the
00:55:47
Netflix series and to transition over to Disney plus because
00:55:52
they're doing Lot with the Netflix carriers, I was so happy
00:55:55
because he's an amazing actor. And he's consistent, and I was
00:55:59
like, yes, they actually I have this thing about not sticking
00:56:03
the landing on books and movies. At the end, they stuck the
00:56:06
landing on this one. So that's why it's my number
00:56:08
four, all right, down to the top three.
00:56:15
So my number three had to kind of go back and forth between
00:56:21
these two, but I'm gonna have to say.
00:56:24
Number three for me is Xiang XI. Wow.
00:56:29
Wow. I'm sorry.
00:56:30
Wow. Yeah, you know what it it's as
00:56:35
far as the movies it is in my top two movies because you guys
00:56:39
know when it first came out it was like at the top of the list
00:56:43
for me because I feel like Like it was one of the better origin
00:56:47
stories done in the MCU but I love this movie because it gave
00:56:55
Asian representation. It had the martial art, it had
00:56:59
Michelle yeoh similarly, you is like has become one of my
00:57:04
favorite people like one of my favorite celebrities in the
00:57:07
films on the internet like he is just he's one of those people
00:57:12
that just kind of He admits like this wholesomeness I don't know
00:57:18
if I want to say wholesomeness but he's just so joyful just
00:57:23
everything he posts and when you see them online and add
00:57:28
different things that he's on, he's just so happy and he exudes
00:57:32
that happiness. And that's something that I love
00:57:35
and what he brought to his character and not just him.
00:57:38
But all of the actors, what they brought to their characters The
00:57:45
storyline was great for me. Because you have this, first of
00:57:51
all, they corrected that bullshit from Iron Man 3.
00:57:54
So let's talk about that. Bringing sir Ben Kingsley back
00:57:59
as Trevor Slattery and explaining his whole Mandarin
00:58:03
farce, and explaining it in a way that actually made sense for
00:58:07
the story. That was fun.
00:58:09
He was like one of the best parts of the film just Him being
00:58:13
Trevor. Slattery, the actor, who
00:58:16
probably, you know, who's who's elevated?
00:58:19
Then always go up to the top stair.
00:58:21
You know, him talking about the Planet of the Apes and thinking
00:58:24
that the monkeys were, that was hilarious, but I love his
00:58:28
characters character. Had a lot of heart, the the
00:58:33
villain that they made Mandarin / when whoo.
00:58:38
And the fact that he wasn't a villain because he was being
00:58:41
evil, he just His wife back and he just wanted his family to be
00:58:47
whole again and to go through that realization and see his
00:58:51
journey. And the I guess the fact that he
00:58:56
held onto that so hard to the point where he made an enemy of
00:59:00
his children and you know, for him to finally realize it at the
00:59:06
end when it's too late. And then, you know, he gives his
00:59:09
son, the ten rings and to see Xiang she come Going to that
00:59:13
power that was just amazing. That whole movie was emotional
00:59:17
for me on so many levels and then you know to talk about Jean
00:59:21
lean his sister who basically, you know, Asian culture, she's
00:59:26
the female. So she can't do what the men do.
00:59:28
And she's not you know, her value is not as important as her
00:59:32
brothers, but she comes into her own, she runs away.
00:59:35
She starts her own fight ring and she just makes a name for
00:59:40
herself and her story is so powerful.
00:59:42
I mean, we've talked About this on the thing.
00:59:44
I know I'm rambling but that movie was so, so incredibly
00:59:48
special. And if it wasn't for the other
00:59:51
two things, I definitely would have ranked this a little
00:59:54
higher. But I think it's, I mean, it's
00:59:56
top three so that that's pretty High Praise, I feel like yeah
01:00:01
for me number three was Falcon and Winter Soldier.
01:00:06
IE Captain America. And when a soldier Mike's it
01:00:11
because the emotional impact on so many levels, like addressing
01:00:19
race and addressing things that we're dealing with, now,
01:00:24
addressing the economic inequalities, addressing mental
01:00:31
health. There's just so many different
01:00:34
things. Trends and how we treat
01:00:37
veterans. All of those things in this show
01:00:42
was just amazing and it was difficult to rank one.
01:00:47
Two, and three for me, but I think three for me is
01:00:52
appropriate for the fact that Winter Soldier for those
01:00:54
reasons. He impacted me the most
01:00:58
emotionally, as a TV show, not quite as high as 1 and 2 for me,
01:01:04
you'll see. But it Was all of the things
01:01:08
that he was very important. And and I had to put it at
01:01:12
number three, just to have just because of Nemo doing his dance
01:01:16
in the club. I mean, how can you not be?
01:01:19
You know, that high, you know. So that's all.
01:01:23
Yeah. My number three is also shengqi.
01:01:29
I was blown away this song, she definitely had the best fight
01:01:34
choreography. This year, like by far the fight
01:01:38
choreography was so on point. And just like hanako said, like
01:01:42
the I mean for it to represent the Asian Community as honestly,
01:01:48
and as non non caricature. Not not see why that's a
01:01:53
caricature but actually representing the Asian culture
01:01:56
as it really is is was vitally important like with Xiang Qi.
01:02:01
They could have easily done this as a typical kung fu movie and
01:02:05
And there's a whole lot of walking on all that shit, but
01:02:09
they didn't is like, they actually put in like real family
01:02:12
issues and things that that happen in everyday, families.
01:02:17
And that, with everyday people into this, this movie that has
01:02:21
extraordinarily powered people and things, love that and
01:02:24
external Supernatural thing items things as well.
01:02:27
And it just, I mean, the movie was just literally if it wasn't
01:02:34
for a certain other movie. It probably would have been
01:02:36
close to number one for me, just because it was, I mean, the
01:02:40
effects blew me away, the acting was outstanding, serving
01:02:46
Kingsley was funny as shit Aquafina was really good in this
01:02:51
movie and I really appreciate the fact that they didn't just
01:02:54
make them a make her make her and shown a couple like Ralph to
01:02:58
bed. Just be like, okay, y'all
01:03:00
together but they're still friends I think that's awesome.
01:03:03
So yeah, that's my number three. Three.
01:03:08
My number three was a toss-up because I loved the way that the
01:03:17
things are done because I'm a huge nerd of as everyone knows.
01:03:22
I have a I have a bachelor's degree in history so I love
01:03:26
anything historic anything iconic, anything retro so, my
01:03:30
number three pick because I love, I love Lucy Dick.
01:03:33
Van Dyke Show, all that stuff was one division.
01:03:37
The Story was amazing. But I'm telling you right now,
01:03:40
the way that they did those Throwbacks, those called shot
01:03:45
out whatever you want to call it to the old iconic shows.
01:03:48
And they went decade by decade was awesome.
01:03:53
This list that I have is basically sort of emerging of me
01:03:56
and Mark, because marks on on podcast, but we talk about the
01:04:00
podcast and stuff. So this is what we sort of
01:04:02
agreed on together. As far as our list to learn two
01:04:05
things, different, he was Watched the last two episodes
01:04:10
and he was looking at me, he's like this is amazing.
01:04:14
He didn't want to go back and watch the beginning because he
01:04:15
doesn't like black and white but he said to me he goes.
01:04:18
Okay this is what I come through with it.
01:04:20
She goes Wanda Envision. He said those two are my
01:04:25
favorite characters, fair to characterize Vision weekend
01:04:27
division, statue in the living room, stuff like that.
01:04:30
So it's his thing. He's got, all the graphic
01:04:31
novels. He was like, I didn't know that
01:04:34
I wanted to see this because whenever we watch the MCU films,
01:04:38
he was always like actors wanted a revision.
01:04:40
But when he saw it, he was like, oh my God, this is amazing when
01:04:43
I saw it. I didn't love middle.
01:04:47
I didn't like Kat Dennings that much, but when we get our, what
01:04:51
I'm I'm a girl. Okay.
01:04:54
And are you and I like you a lot more because I watch them on
01:05:01
that one show with my anyway think he's kind of happening
01:05:03
like so the thing is that the middle was okay but when you got
01:05:09
to the end so the beginning and the end I'm watching this thing
01:05:13
and I'm going oh this is good, oh this is good because this was
01:05:15
the first Disney plus series that we got.
01:05:18
So my thing was that they did such a good job at The yo-yo
01:05:23
Agatha. You know, all along the whole
01:05:25
little song, the whole thing about that, the whole thing,
01:05:28
maybe, Mephisto, you know, the ending.
01:05:30
So this is quite frankly. My favorite thing that they have
01:05:36
done, I've got to others, but as far as style, I couldn't make it
01:05:41
number one because it dipped in the middle.
01:05:43
But yeah, top 31 division, okay. Sounds good.
01:05:49
All right, top two. So for me, I mean, if you have
01:05:56
been keeping up, you can kind of see what what's left on the
01:05:59
list. So, of course, for me, Falcon in
01:06:02
the Winter Soldier. Is number two, anybody who has
01:06:07
talked to me for any number of minutes?
01:06:10
We'll know that Sam and Bucky are like, that's my favorite
01:06:15
Dynamic and all of the MCU from the time that they first met
01:06:20
each other. And Like each other because
01:06:23
Bucky was on the wrong side of things to now.
01:06:26
They've always been my favorite Dynamic, that did not change
01:06:30
with this show. We got to see a lot more of it.
01:06:33
We got to see them work through their trauma together and
01:06:36
separately, and then become like this buddy system together.
01:06:43
You know, one of the things that kind of bonded them was the fact
01:06:48
that they both had the same best friend, I'll be it from
01:06:51
different. Two different points in their
01:06:53
lives. And now without that buffer,
01:06:56
Steve Rogers being there, who are these two characters
01:06:59
separately and together. We got to see that in some
01:07:03
beautiful ways with the show aside from everything that Mike
01:07:08
and Anthony mentioned as far as the issues that they tackled and
01:07:15
all of this stuff you got to see two males have deep
01:07:21
conversations. Stations talking about their
01:07:24
trauma, talking about their mental health issues and you got
01:07:29
and we don't get to see that a lot represented a lot and media.
01:07:34
So the fact that you got this with these characters, we got to
01:07:39
see some of the issues, like you said in these characters being
01:07:45
who they are and what they are, you know, one pivotal scene is
01:07:49
the police scene where Sam Sam and Bucky are on the street,
01:07:53
they're arguing in the police come over and they automatically
01:07:56
assume that Sam is the aggressor in the argument.
01:07:59
And, you know, even after bucket says, yo, why are you
01:08:02
questioning him? Like, do you not know who he is?
01:08:04
Like we're having a common we're just having a conversation.
01:08:07
Like those are things that we see happening in our day and age
01:08:12
now and they affect our communities, a lot, and for them
01:08:16
to put those things on the screen.
01:08:18
So boldly, you know, they didn't sugarcoat anything with any of
01:08:22
That with the refugee. I mean with all of the blipped
01:08:24
people coming back and trying to figure out, okay.
01:08:29
How are we going to put these people back in their places?
01:08:31
And then, you know, seeing the other people displaced seeing
01:08:36
resources being stretched, you have a quote-unquote villain and
01:08:41
Carly morgenthau who really isn't a villain.
01:08:43
She's trying to make sure that everybody is treated fairly.
01:08:47
And, you know, she's fighting for the people who are being
01:08:50
pushed to the side. And she doesn't really become a
01:08:53
True Villain until towards the end of the series when she
01:08:56
actually starts killing people to make her plane.
01:08:58
But still you had these characters who represent a real
01:09:02
issues. And again, they don't shy away
01:09:05
from these issues, they put them front and center.
01:09:08
And we had a lot of people who complained about it.
01:09:11
They complain about the show being woke.
01:09:13
They complain about the show focuses so much on race, and
01:09:16
it's kind of like, for those very reasons.
01:09:19
That's why I went to that show. Still Is my favorite Disney Plus
01:09:23
show today, and then, of course, Sam becoming Captain America.
01:09:29
That was just the cherry on top of everything, like he was able
01:09:33
to not just fulfill the destiny that Steve left him with,
01:09:38
because that was what Steve wanted.
01:09:41
He did it on his own terms and he did it in a way that felt
01:09:44
right and true to who he is as a person.
01:09:47
And I love the fact that we got to see that.
01:09:49
So yeah, Falcon which Soldier number two.
01:09:52
Ooh, that's like it's going to be hard for the for them to come
01:09:56
up with a show that's going to top the way I feel about that
01:09:59
one. Okay.
01:10:02
Yeah I still say the most powerful scene was when we're
01:10:05
one of the most powerful scenes was when Becky told Sam, you
01:10:10
know, if if he was wrong about you, what does that say about
01:10:14
me, you strong by me that that The hit that hits hard for
01:10:20
Becky's character. My number two is Spider-Man the
01:10:24
way home. Wow.
01:10:27
It's number two because Nostalgia, it's number two.
01:10:32
Because I've never seen fanservice them so.
01:10:36
Well, in any genre, any show any movie ever acts, made it part of
01:10:43
the story made it work. The story was great. the
01:10:49
emotions that you feel throughout the movie is just It
01:10:55
was intense. I think I saw it three times in
01:10:59
six days which, you know, emotionally is a lot for a movie
01:11:04
like that. You know, it's once Lori had
01:11:10
said that League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was like
01:11:13
the most perfect comic book movie Nats Spider-Man the way
01:11:18
home. Clearly there's clearly more
01:11:22
than one could be a perfect. That's hilarious.
01:11:28
Okay. So One division is my number
01:11:33
two, there's a reason. Okay, aye, aye.
01:11:38
There's I mean, I look at my list and I'm like, cut put
01:11:41
Captain America higher the why don't have to have one Vision
01:11:44
higher than that one? And I keep coming back to the
01:11:47
same reasons. One Division was first and I
01:11:52
think that it did a hell of a job saved the stage for the
01:11:56
whole year last year. I mean, that's a hell of a way
01:11:58
to introduce doing what they were doing doing well.
01:12:02
Marvel as ambitious of an of an undertaking that they were, dude
01:12:07
that they did last year with the pandemic, with everything else.
01:12:12
Going against them, this show started off.
01:12:15
If this show sucks, Marvel's in deep shit.
01:12:20
If this show doesn't hit the mark, Marvel's in deep.
01:12:23
Shit is just like when we talk about certain movies in the DC
01:12:27
Universe, like it didn't the movie didn't hit and it fucked
01:12:31
the whole. Universe up that could have
01:12:33
happened here, but it didn't. And that's why having a number
01:12:37
two, because that's a lot. It's just like, okay, long
01:12:41
tangent. But my favorite shows ever is
01:12:43
the show called The Sing Off is a competition show with lot
01:12:46
about cappella groups, that's where Pentatonix came from, but
01:12:49
that was one of my best to on my favorite shows that still go on
01:12:51
going on, YouTube rabbit holes every now and then there's a
01:12:54
group on there called Delilah. They saying what do you want
01:12:57
from me in the song? The Adam Lambert song, this girl
01:12:59
comes out, first insist sings Capello.
01:13:03
See it starts it off. Now if she's off by like a look
01:13:07
like like a note or two that fucks the whole shit up but
01:13:11
she's spot on the girl that comes on after sings and
01:13:14
harmonizes with her like kind of makes everything meld together
01:13:19
and I think that's what Juan division did.
01:13:21
It's like it came out, it hit all the notes I mean the scene
01:13:25
that still sticks with me which is weird.
01:13:28
It's like I didn't think that there are a lot of moments in
01:13:31
here that stick with me. Me.
01:13:32
But the the absolute heart wrenching grief that she had
01:13:36
when she was at the house, the home site, when everything just
01:13:40
exploded from her grief just exploded from her and took over
01:13:43
the whole town. And she built vision from
01:13:47
basically heartbreak. She constructed him out of
01:13:50
heartbreak and that just was just, that was incredible to me,
01:13:54
not to mention everything else, that was great with the Darcy
01:13:57
Monica rambeau. And though the thing, all the
01:14:00
things that it actually opened Door and led to.
01:14:03
And there are certain things that affect me, thus affected me
01:14:07
more, but this one is just be just for the fact that it's set,
01:14:11
everything up to succeed is my number to my number two, is
01:14:16
Sheikh, Sheikh change. She is a normally a marble
01:14:20
street level character along with Luke Cage, gaining an iron
01:14:24
fist. I am going to sadly be 50 of
01:14:27
those fun way, but I'm also glad that I've lived long enough
01:14:30
because I got to enjoy Add some of these awesome comics in the
01:14:33
mid-70s when I learned how to read up you know until now.
01:14:37
So my thing is that I've always loved the the street level
01:14:43
characters that weren't necessarily traditional
01:14:46
superheroes that Daredevil believe or not Falls in that
01:14:50
carry category for me. So Shang she is this awesome guy
01:14:55
and he's just, you know, I never thought first of all that in my
01:15:01
lifetime that Would get any of these characters as TV
01:15:06
character. So when Iron Fist came out on
01:15:09
Netflix, when Luke Cage came out on Netflix Jessica Jones,
01:15:15
Daredevil, pleasure, especially when they did the Defenders, I
01:15:20
still watch the fingers. Go it all.
01:15:22
Could have been better but it was still pretty darn good.
01:15:25
So I don't go to the movies for a couple reasons, one covid to
01:15:31
my husband is visually impaired. He can't necessarily see the
01:15:35
screen, the way that you, and I would see the screen, so we just
01:15:38
don't go. So, I had to wait until November
01:15:41
to see this movie or the end of October October and we sit down
01:15:46
and I'm watching this and I'm like, oh my God, oh my God, oh
01:15:50
my God, and I love Aquafina. She's like one of my favorite
01:15:54
people in the entire world. I think she's hysterical.
01:15:57
Another get you the scene where she's explaining to her
01:15:59
grandmother that they're just friends and then they go and
01:16:02
they get on this bus. Now, you guys have heard the
01:16:05
thing about the raid about Daredevil how the hallway seems
01:16:09
always like the ish. Hmm.
01:16:11
This was their version of the hallway scene.
01:16:15
I mean from the beginning, to the end, to the milk the jacket.
01:16:20
So Lou did that the fact that it was so awesome that I love speed
01:16:25
speed for those. Of you who are very, very young
01:16:29
young boy, did a movie called speak, okay?
01:16:33
They actually did speech you where the premises, she's on the
01:16:36
bus, she's behind the bus, he's kicking ass taking names.
01:16:40
They can't stop the bus. The bus'll explode.
01:16:42
This was done three four times better.
01:16:45
I love it. The fact that we got a different
01:16:48
type of movie because, usually, with Kung Fu movies, you have
01:16:52
the different types of coming through the different types of
01:16:54
Storytelling. There's hardcore with the whole
01:16:56
monkey. Ringy older guy and then you
01:16:58
have the mythical with the unicorns and all that stuff.
01:17:00
This was more of the unicorns of that type of stuff.
01:17:03
Michelle, you, the fact that they went to this mythical and
01:17:08
the fact that you like these said, Ben Kingsley as the man
01:17:11
recorder quote, the father. Thus it was.
01:17:15
Absolutely, I watched it and then I watched against my
01:17:19
husband and then after we got done, I watched a third time.
01:17:22
And one day I have been wanting a smoothie since I Seven years
01:17:27
old. So changed.
01:17:28
She number two. Alright, so number one movie.
01:17:36
Yeah, do I drum roll but I think it's no surprise for me
01:17:41
Spider-Man no way home was at the top of my marvelous.
01:17:45
For last year we get into detail about it in our podcast.
01:17:52
I'm not going to say too much here because Lori hasn't seen it
01:17:55
yet. You can talk.
01:17:57
Okay. So um I don't even know where to
01:18:03
start with this one, everybody who's listening.
01:18:06
They know that I actually have not seen the Andrew Garfield
01:18:10
Spider-Man movies, you know, for reason now that seems so stupid
01:18:17
I haven't had time. I haven't had time.
01:18:19
I'm planning on doing that probably next weekend but Sing
01:18:25
the three Spider-Man together, and like you said, Anthony, this
01:18:32
was fanservice done, right? You know, you got to see all
01:18:38
three of these Spider-Man, they brought their own.
01:18:41
I don't want to say they brought their own issues, but they all
01:18:44
had their own things to be dealing with in this film.
01:18:48
And you got to see them deal with deal with these things in a
01:18:52
really, really beautiful way. And It was heartbreaking.
01:18:57
It was inspirational. I have to see the the the, the
01:19:05
movies now because Andrew Garfield was like one of the
01:19:09
best parts of this film. Just his his comedic timing and
01:19:15
the way that he was with the guys, you know, I read an
01:19:19
interview just a couple of days ago that whole line where he's
01:19:23
with Peter 1 and P 2. Peter 2 and he's like, I love
01:19:26
you guys. That was actually a revised, and
01:19:29
he said it was just said in the moment because that's how he
01:19:32
felt at that moment. And it was, it was funny in the
01:19:37
film, because the guys are looking at him like Thanks.
01:19:41
But now, it's like, they weren't expecting lie.
01:19:45
So, the weight, the fact that they both responded in the same
01:19:49
way that was just, it was funny. It was beautiful getting to see
01:19:56
Peter 3 Andrews. Peter make his save of MJ, which
01:20:00
that's the only thing I know about his movies.
01:20:03
And that's only because my daughter showed me that one
01:20:06
specific scene about Gwen's death.
01:20:09
So to see see that and the emotions that his character had
01:20:14
went, he was able to get it right this time that was so
01:20:18
impactful, seeing the three Spider-Man run off the Statue of
01:20:22
Liberty, yellow, Yahoo and swing together in tandem in different
01:20:30
ways and then do that that Landing with all three of it was
01:20:34
just when I tell you, I cried so many times during this movie, it
01:20:38
was so Adding it was very emotional, being able to watch
01:20:46
it in a movie theater and see the fan reaction when the reveal
01:20:49
of Toby and the reveal of Andrew came.
01:20:52
That was great. Now it wasn't for me it was an
01:20:56
in-game level great because I just I don't know what it was.
01:21:01
I think the first time I went to go see Anthony and I went to go
01:21:04
see it together and the fan reaction was very minimal and
01:21:10
And then the second time I went to go see, I did like, Anthony,
01:21:13
I went to go see it three times in four days.
01:21:15
I saw Thursday night Friday, night and Sunday.
01:21:18
The second time I went to go see if the fan reaction was better.
01:21:20
The third time, I went to go see you.
01:21:22
There was no fan reaction whatsoever except for Whispers
01:21:24
like so that part of it. I felt like could be better.
01:21:29
But I mean just and then I'm sorry.
01:21:34
Our Spider-Man, Tom, you know, sing what he has to go through
01:21:39
in the sacrifices that he that he makes in this film just to
01:21:44
fix everything that's going on, not for himself.
01:21:48
But for everybody else that's affected that was so
01:21:51
heartbreaking. And I just, you know, people
01:21:56
have said this before, the first two movies it didn't feel like
01:22:00
he was the main character in his own.
01:22:03
Film and whatever they lacked in those first two films.
01:22:08
You really feel like they made up for it in this third film.
01:22:11
Like It was just, it was phenomenal.
01:22:14
But I mean saying the three Spider-Man together and that was
01:22:18
just, it was, it was just amazing.
01:22:20
It was just mind-blowing for me and yeah, easily the best
01:22:26
Spider-Man film for me. Probably the best MC you film
01:22:31
right now for me, So yeah that that top might when you're 21
01:22:35
for Marvel. Okay.
01:22:36
Well my number one is Xiang XI and it's number one because for
01:22:45
me especially found a shot. What?
01:22:47
You're not shocked, I'm kind of shocked about what if you kind
01:22:51
of well I don't see why. I mean the cultural significance
01:22:57
of this movie is only surpassed by the cultural significance.
01:23:03
The vigilance of the Black Panthers and all the things.
01:23:08
How the girl said, the representation for the Asian
01:23:14
Community, the fact that they took the care and the time and
01:23:18
having people from the community and the culture, working on the
01:23:23
movie being involved with the movie, making sure everything
01:23:27
was the way it was supposed to be all the shows and movies.
01:23:30
Our model is contribute something.
01:23:32
And I feel like last year Shawn she had everything in the one in
01:23:39
this one movie, the the social awareness, The Nostalgia, the
01:23:46
culture. I mean, all those things, mental
01:23:50
health, everything, his father's grief and how he dealt with his
01:23:55
grief. It seemed like there was a
01:23:57
running theme for me last year was having to do with Korea and
01:24:01
had The movie was very powerful on so many different levels for
01:24:06
me. And that's why having number
01:24:08
one, okay? For me boy Spidey.
01:24:12
I mean come on from Charlie, cock from Matt Murdock showing
01:24:17
up early in the movie like excuse me and the whole thing
01:24:22
with Ned making the circles that get inspired him in through and
01:24:26
from I mean it may saying the line and become and becoming
01:24:31
Uncle Ben like there are so many moments and just like Anthony
01:24:34
said, it's definitely fanservice like, you know, it's just for us
01:24:39
then to make that movie for any other.
01:24:41
But have less go. Absolutely ape shit in the
01:24:44
theater. That's it.
01:24:46
I mean, for every everything that they they did in it, I
01:24:49
mean, short of having of having Kingpin show up there somehow or
01:24:55
have or having like, you know, the Punisher, like doing
01:24:57
something. I mean, short of that this movie
01:25:00
was just outstanding. It was, I mean, it was well,
01:25:05
shot it set up everything for the future and I Just really,
01:25:12
really I'm still Blown Away by it.
01:25:14
Like I mean the whole thing like I mean it was just a great movie
01:25:20
and it definitely helped me in the year on a race with a
01:25:24
positive note. So yeah, that's my number one.
01:25:27
My number one movie or TV show Marvel MCU is Falcon in the
01:25:34
where Soldier. Now I went back and forth on
01:25:38
this because The cultural significance.
01:25:42
The the idea of them setting up Young Avengers the concept of
01:25:50
them bringing in ideas from the MCU, the last movies, with Sam
01:25:56
with Bucky, I literally love this, from the moment I laid
01:26:02
eyes on it. I mean, the the first episode is
01:26:05
awesome. It didn't drop.
01:26:07
It didn't lag. It gave me Everything.
01:26:11
It brought up a couple obscure characters that I thought, huh?
01:26:15
That's interesting, the therapy. The, the fact that they were
01:26:20
They were best friends independently to the same person
01:26:25
and that happened in my real life.
01:26:28
I was best friends with somebody who was also best friends.
01:26:31
At the same time with someone else and me and her never got
01:26:35
along. We're good now.
01:26:38
But back then we couldn't stand each other because each of us
01:26:41
claim that person as my best friend.
01:26:43
So, I got that and that really hit me deep in the thing that
01:26:49
really did it for me, was that they gave us aspects of Sam that
01:26:55
I never do. He's from Louisiana, I never
01:26:58
would have pegged that. Okay, the girl being refugee.
01:27:04
I thought oh that's interesting. The fact that you've got the
01:27:08
baron the fact that they brought in You know, the test subject as
01:27:16
they Bradley, you know, for super soldier.
01:27:21
The way they filmed it, the way that they shot the scenes, the
01:27:26
way that they have the emotional with the bank, whether you don't
01:27:30
know, how do you guys get paid? It was rare for One Division and
01:27:35
one of vision was still in my mind.
01:27:37
But when I saw this, I said, I said to several people that I
01:27:42
know who was Jimmy talk about, It's tough.
01:27:44
That this is probably the best entry that Disney plus could
01:27:48
possibly do for AMC you show. Because while water Vision was
01:27:55
99.99% perfect Falcon in the Winter Soldier was 100% perfect,
01:28:02
it hit all the notes, it hit the highs, it hit the lows and just
01:28:07
the Montage ass and practicing with The Shield is enough for me
01:28:10
to vote. It's number what now, I've been
01:28:13
known not to be a huge. I mean, I like certain things
01:28:17
but I don't normally say, caps on.
01:28:19
Favorite cap is up there, but I like Iron Man, more, but this
01:28:22
right here, this was fire. This was the thing to head me
01:28:27
go. Okay, I'm not canceling.
01:28:29
My Disney plus a membership because I was very close.
01:28:32
And I was like I'm keeping it if they can give me this for the
01:28:37
next year or so. Star Wars stuff aside I'm in
01:28:41
because I don't have children and I am an adult woman who is
01:28:47
willingly watching Disney. Plus they're getting my eight
01:28:50
nine, whatever dollars a month and it's well spent because this
01:28:56
what do you say, Mike chef's kiss.
01:28:59
This is what this was. So, yeah, my number one Falcon
01:29:03
Winter Soldier. Okay.
01:29:06
Yeah. That's interesting.
01:29:09
Anywhere, you know, where some of us had the same ranking for
01:29:14
some and then kind of the difference for the others.
01:29:17
But yeah. I kind of feel like I put, what
01:29:20
if a little bit too low, there's thinking about it.
01:29:22
I'm like I probably should put it like a number six and I think
01:29:27
I think I surprised you guys were my number one.
01:29:31
No. I mean, I was digging about I
01:29:33
just know this. That means your opinion that I
01:29:36
can definitely see where Kevin Erica and Winter Soldier could
01:29:39
be number one like percent. Like it would, it definitely
01:29:43
would have been, you know, it would have been number one or
01:29:46
two for me as far as because I had Xiang XI.
01:29:50
So high up, right? Yeah Spider-Man just kind of
01:29:53
knocked everything down a pig so like I like once you watch it
01:29:58
Laurie you're right. No probably I know I don't know
01:30:02
because like I said the thing was Spider-Man either you do a
01:30:06
good Spider-Man or you don't Don't write it, there's no
01:30:09
in-between. And this one was amazing, you
01:30:13
know. So Yeah, it was Elisa those
01:30:18
things. It was all of those things, so
01:30:21
yeah, Marvel Marvel did good last year as far as you know,
01:30:27
with with them releasing the Disney Plus shows, and what they
01:30:33
were able to get into theaters. I mean It can you imagine what
01:30:37
this would have been like had there not been a pandemic like?
01:30:42
Yeah. See that's the thing.
01:30:45
My issue with the pandemic with Disney plus and this is my only
01:30:50
gripe that I'm going to have about MCU for last year.
01:30:53
Is that I'm home bound. Meaning, I work from home, I
01:30:57
take my husband to work and that's it.
01:30:59
I do instacart idea, Amazon Fresh.
01:31:01
I might go to the grocery store every three months, so I see no
01:31:04
one. I don't know where.
01:31:05
So when I, Tell you, when I told my husband, I'm spending the 30
01:31:09
bucks to get shaanxi on my TV and he goes no wait wait till I
01:31:15
says I got a pre-order it the day.
01:31:17
I was going to preorder they said hi, we're not gonna do
01:31:21
that. I was pissed because I have to
01:31:27
wait until I told her we watch it.
01:31:29
And I was like, oh my God this is so good.
01:31:31
Mark turns to me, he goes yeah I can see why you're upset, you
01:31:35
didn't pre-order because It's for people like me who are not
01:31:39
out there because like you said, how'd it go?
01:31:40
California is sort of up there with the numbers and stuff.
01:31:43
I can't go where you guys go. You guys are going here, you're
01:31:47
going there, you're going here. I'm like I went to Walgreens
01:31:51
today. That was the highlight of my
01:31:52
last three months and I mean it does, I'm still not going
01:31:55
anywhere. So so this is model.
01:32:01
Oh pre-ordering or Oregon, I got black widow.
01:32:06
Okay, I don't mind spending 30 bucks, I don't mind, help
01:32:10
spending 40 bucks, not 50, because I'm cheap 40 bucks.
01:32:15
The fact that I can see the movie as much as I want and I
01:32:20
can do it in the privacy of my own home.
01:32:22
Now we saw Doom because I've HBO we saw Suicide Squad again HR H.
01:32:27
Vo. I like the fact that essence
01:32:30
adult woman I can sit in the privacy of my own home turn on
01:32:35
my TV in the living room and watch first-run movies.
01:32:38
When I say, I was giddy that I was able to see Dune, I was
01:32:43
getting Disney has a problem, Disney is greedy and we know
01:32:48
this Disney needs to understand that people like me who will go
01:32:53
to Disneyland with no children and drop x amount of money on a
01:32:59
hotel room after main, huh? Tell for two days.
01:33:02
Just because we want to go to Disney, you tell me you're going
01:33:07
to have to do this, you're going to have to do that.
01:33:09
Guess what? My own money isn't going to go
01:33:11
to Disney my money. If I could go, it's going to go
01:33:13
to Vegas or is my husband calls? It adult Disney, okay?
01:33:17
Disney has a problem because they're not connecting with the
01:33:20
people who are still being cautious because the covid who
01:33:24
still are in this mode or maybe I can't go here, but I want this
01:33:28
HV. Yo, love it.
01:33:30
Why? HBO doesn't ask me to pay x
01:33:32
amount of money for this HBO is $15 a month.
01:33:35
You can see your movies, 30 days like it, see it, move on or not
01:33:39
Disney. I have issues because I know the
01:33:43
model of seeing movies. First run is probably going to
01:33:48
change to where it's all going to be after the fact, because
01:33:52
the lawsuit starts aliens and because of the whole painting
01:33:55
and because of the numbers, the numbers aren't going to quote,
01:33:58
unquote lie. But the numbers are going to be
01:34:01
impacted 18 months from now. When they realize that people
01:34:05
like me were the backbone of what made you have a 60 million
01:34:08
dollar weekend for Black Widow, done with my Ranch.
01:34:11
To tell him how you really feel worried.
01:34:13
I'll just show you a little bit. I think I think Scarlett
01:34:17
Johansson scared them because as soon as that lawsuit was filed a
01:34:23
change your mind about, Song. See if all the other things are
01:34:28
going to do. Yeah but I don't know, we'll see
01:34:33
because this this pandemic doesn't look like it's going
01:34:38
anywhere where B is and because of it Yeah.
01:34:44
Yep morbius got moved. We were supposed to be seeing
01:34:46
more recent a couple of weeks and now it's April my gift.
01:34:51
I hope. Yeah.
01:34:53
How's things don't get worse because I'm supposed to get
01:34:56
Doctor Strange. My birthday weekend.
01:34:58
I really like, I haven't, I haven't been able to have a
01:35:01
birthday weekend for two years now because of covid.
01:35:05
Tried killing 50, and two and three weeks.
01:35:07
And you can't have a birthday party.
01:35:08
Oh yeah. I know that.
01:35:09
That sucks. That sucks.
01:35:11
But the flip side of that is Spider-Man is now like one of
01:35:16
the highest-grossing movies of all time.
01:35:20
This is true. This is true.
01:35:21
Those in Daya gonna go. Here's the thing.
01:35:25
Movies, as you you do it more than me, you always have the
01:35:28
birthday weekend movie thing is a thing that is actually pretty
01:35:32
darn cool if you can do it. But with the pandemic, it's
01:35:38
almost as if it's like you feel, I would feel guilty because it's
01:35:43
Like okay, do I go do I not go? But other people other than me
01:35:47
were turning 50 this month. What's the long-term of this?
01:35:52
Because, how many more years are?
01:35:55
We going to have to? I mean my birthday party.
01:35:58
I'm actually planning it. So I'm going to have a 50 plus
01:36:00
two birthday party in two years and that's going to be.
01:36:03
Hopefully my official party where actually have people that
01:36:05
can actually see face-to-face. That's why I'm playing it.
01:36:08
What's going to happen in the long run because Disney HBO new
01:36:13
line. Whatever they can't keep this up
01:36:15
and keep that because the worst it gets.
01:36:18
We're on our third variant, possibly a fourth.
01:36:21
We're on our third shot even though they call it a booster.
01:36:24
How long is this going to is our is our world going to be this
01:36:27
way until 2025? Is it going to be Beyond?
01:36:31
Yeah, I don't know. It's just, you know, I just
01:36:35
happen to be lucky as far as birthday weekends because my
01:36:38
birthday falls the first weekend of May.
01:36:41
And that's usually when Tenth postseason starts, right?
01:36:45
So for years, all of the major Marvel movies for summer.
01:36:51
They always debut that weekend. So, I've always liked all of the
01:36:55
X-Men movies. I got during my birthday
01:36:58
weekend, most of the Marvel stuff.
01:37:00
So, Black Widow was supposed to come out on my birthday.
01:37:03
I think last year, And I think maybe the year before that
01:37:08
because I can't remember what it was supposed to come out. 2019,
01:37:12
right? Yes, it's yeah or 2020.
01:37:15
I think early 2020, so Twenty Ninth twenty and twenty nineteen
01:37:19
because I believe black widow actually came out three years
01:37:22
later than was supposed to okay? So yeah, it's just been one of
01:37:26
those things but I you know, I kind of wonder that question
01:37:31
myself lawyer because, you know, for a minute we thought things
01:37:34
were getting a little bit better.
01:37:36
Better. And then now we have this new
01:37:38
variant and things have been getting worse.
01:37:40
And like you said, Anthony Spider-Man have really good
01:37:43
numbers in the movie theaters for, you know, I think they've
01:37:48
surpassed, like, I don't even know what the numbers are now,
01:37:53
but Now it's just kind of like everybody's getting sick.
01:37:59
So yeah it's good that we all went to the theaters but people
01:38:03
are getting sick because of that while we could write but um, I
01:38:09
don't know. I just I know that we are
01:38:11
supposed to get some more Marvel properties this year, I know
01:38:13
some have been delayed, but I don't know.
01:38:20
I I hope they keep producing, you know, these great shows on
01:38:24
Disney play. Yes, but I think I don't know if
01:38:28
they're already moving morbius and morbius was supposed to be
01:38:31
at the beginning of this year. I think a lot of the things that
01:38:33
we were supposed to get this year.
01:38:35
May also end up getting moved. So, I'm not sure.
01:38:42
I just, I don't know. I just hope we continue to get
01:38:46
great quality content from Marvel.
01:38:49
We do have some things coming up this year, so I'm sure we'll be
01:38:53
able to get like, Hopefully, we'll have enough stuff to do
01:38:58
another top 10 at the end of the year for maruti, but I think it
01:39:04
might be, it might be more of the Disney Plus shows that the
01:39:08
Cameo trailer came out today. They showed this marble.
01:39:12
I know if you guys saw that. Okay nah they showed a little
01:39:16
bit of She-Hulk and a couple of the other shows but yeah they
01:39:20
showed Kamala in the costume and she looks basically 12 13.
01:39:25
Jean and it looks pretty good. It's only like ten five seconds,
01:39:29
maybe. Okay.
01:39:30
All right. I think was he when I was doing
01:39:33
my research for our list, I think was it?
01:39:35
I swear, I saw, they Miss Marvel was supposed to come out of at
01:39:38
the end of 20 21 and it didn't I do this year.
01:39:44
Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, yeah.
01:39:48
So hopefully we'll get that this year and and not in 2023.
01:39:55
But I mean, I mean, yeah. Me too.
01:40:00
I'm excited to see that one because Tatiana moss and I'm so
01:40:04
I'm so excited to see her in that role.
01:40:06
Oh, you think I gushed about doing wait till I give you my
01:40:09
10-minute break down of She-Hulk, would you say 10
01:40:13
minute break now? Yeah.
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