#houseofthedragon The death of the King exposes major cracks within the Targaryn/Hightower household in the castle. Queen Alicent navigates through her grief while pondering her husband's final words. Otto Hightower and the Small Council take matters into their own hands. The High Lords and Ladies of Kings Landing are presented with an ultimatum. Princess Rhaenys finds herself an unwilling guest. Loyalties are questions as the question of succession begins to divide. Queen Alicent is placed in a difficult position. An unlikely coronation takes place, with an unexpected conclusion.
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What's up hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of The Phantom hybrid podcast. This is hanako and I'm here with
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Anthony and we are discussing House of the Dragon episode 9,
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and we've had a little time to sit and marinate on this.
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We've been doing some things going to Walking Dead
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conventions and, you know, going on cruises, or at least I have.
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So we've been kind of struggling to get everybody schedule on
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Steam. But we are here now.
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We are talking about episode 9 Oh, the king is dead. and, Babe,
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he was already decomposing man's case.
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We did nap, okay? So I kind of want to go order,
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but I kind of don't, but I think we're going to go in order
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because I have the first thing I want to say.
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So the episode starts out, we see different.
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You know, images of the castle is very quiet.
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It's nighttime. I'm guessing.
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This is like maybe within the same space of time that viserys
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is died. You see?
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A little boy, coming out of, I'm guessing his quarters, and the
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little boy walks through the castle, all the way to the
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kitchens where he finds Talia and whispered something in her
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ear, which obviously is the king is dead.
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Because she says, you know, she kind of looks at him and then
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the next shot that we get is of Allison in the bed.
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Crying, like your, are you sure? So, I have an issue started from
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the very first of the episodes, where the hell are all the
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guards? Guards, it's the middle of the
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night. This is the freaking King of the
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Seven Kingdoms. There are no guards outside his
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door. There are no guards in the
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corridors, there's no guards anywhere.
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The little boy, who's walking through the castle passes by one
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made. That's it, where the hell are
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all the cars if they had had proper security, On the king,
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the way they were supposed to - avoid it.
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All this shit that happened in this episode because everybody
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would have known the King was dead.
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Somebody would have been able to get word to Rainier or before
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all this bullshit happened. Where were the guards?
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It could have been the shift change, like, you know, how it
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changes happen. There's usually someone there
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and then someone comes to relieve that person so that
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there is no break in coverage. There is not a soul in the
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castle say for this little boy whole, why the hell is he up at
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that time of night? Anyway, I think he's early early
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morning. And I think he was he's a
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servant at think he's supposed to go in there and help.
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Help help get the seriously King up, why was there no posted at
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the door, why with the King be in the physical state that he is
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in and did that someone not there?
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Just in case he called out for help.
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In case something happened, he could have fallen out of the
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bed. He could have fought.
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Why was no one there to help him?
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I have so many issues with this that coming you're full of shit.
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They could have avoided this whole war that we know is about
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to happen. It's quite possible that The
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way, the state of things currently in the castle.
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Dealing with the height. H is quite possible that they
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didn't care. They might not have care, but
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there are other people in that castle who would have cared.
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There are other people in the castle who would have said
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something. I mean, through whistling would
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have made sure. That bill has coverage press
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egg. I had someone who was supposed
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to, you know, guard him, the queen has sir, Kristen So why
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not the king? Why is the king that's utterly
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alone like completely alone? I just, I have major problems
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with it. I and I realize it doesn't
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matter now because he's dead, but I think it's possible that
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be just the director and the every year and all that they
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probably we're trying to set a mood and the tone and they
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didn't think about people thinking about doing regards.
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You got me. I don't think they thought
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crossed their mind. Other than that, the only reason
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I could think of is it was intentional, but I doubt that
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because like you said, there are too many people with the vested
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interest in him as king, who would just be like, oh whatever.
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Especially the whistling. Hmm.
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Yeah. Okay, Commander, he know, this
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would be unacceptable, right? I mean they had guards outside
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of Princess rhaenys his rooms Yeah, yeah.
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So why not the king? The king of the fucking
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kingdoms? I think they were just trying to
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say to move into town and just didn't, they didn't think about
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it. Are we going to have to do a
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separate episode about the things that they don't think
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about in the show? Not just this show, but Game of
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Thrones in general when it comes to things on screen knows, he
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might be sometimes rush through some of the stuff they're trying
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to do like maybe they'd be be pressed for time and they just
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trying to get get get it done because it costs so much.
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This this production costs a lot and loves money and I understand
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that, but I guess if you put in so much time and money into the
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show, Do it right? That's why we have Starbucks
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coffee cups, laying around again, water bottle, a soul
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about things that they do wrong. But okay, we're going to move
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on, and I just let me, I just wanted to make sure that
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everybody understood. I was very, very bothered by
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this. How is it that the King has no
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security? Anyway, so yes, Alison finds out
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that the king is dead. She goes to speak with her
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father while Talia starts lighting candles in the windows,
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I was like hmmm. I've seen that before mmm-hmm
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when salsa was trying to let you know Bram.
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Uh-huh. Yeah she was trying to let brand
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know that. Hey, I need some help.
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Anyway. So Alison goes to her father and
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he asked her, who knows? And she names off, you know,
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Talia few of the servants. And then she drops the big
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bombshell. I saw him last night just before
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he died, and he confessed to me that he wanted egg on to be
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king. Even Otto was looking at her
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like What what? And it was just the thing that
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made me think about it. This whole episode.
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Yes, she keeps telling people that this is what the Sarah's
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told her Otto look to her to the point where she was, like it's
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the truth Laura bees burry was like I have known this man
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longer than any of y'all in here and you cannot tell me that he's
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going to confess this on his Deathbed.
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It to one person without a witness.
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Egg on in the episode is like he didn't want me to be king, he
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had to like me. Here's tonight.
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Me are. And he steadfastly how to, right
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near his claim. He didn't even like me, you like
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me? What, why would he want me to be
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king? Everybody is sitting here
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doubting this except for probably the only other person
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who really knew him best Alison. Come on now.
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Who did you do not already have this conversation?
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Rely big demand has not changed his mind.
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The 20 years, not once not once not even came close to it.
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Even like looking at what happened with the the drift,
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Mark secession thing. He was in, he was like, why are
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we even here? I don't need to repeat myself.
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This is the same situation, like I didn't change.
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As my mind, like, I would have simply.
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No. He's the king.
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He doesn't have to reiterate the point, right?
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Made the decision, to decision stands, Period.
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And I may I want to I want to give her a little the benefit of
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the doubt because I see what they're doing with her character
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in the show. Especially last couple of
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episodes, they are playing her a little bit on the sympathetic
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side. You know what we've read in?
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The books has basically been like she was just this person
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who was just so dead set on her son, becoming King by any and
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all means necessary. And we see that in this, you
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know, in this episode That's not necessarily the case.
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She's doing it because she thinks this is what her husband
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wanted but she has reservations about it especially when they go
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before the small Council and they let him, they let them know
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that he is dead. And immediately Jane is like,
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everybody took like 20 seconds to process it.
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Nobody's face changed. No.
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But there was like no reaction to his death, I guess, because
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they've been expecting it for some time.
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I mean, if you Look at the way, the saris looked in the last
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episode. We kind of saw it coming, but
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the fact that they didn't even let it sit for 20 seconds and
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then Jason Lannisters, like also, we can go ahead and move
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forward with our plans. Yes.
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So there are two guards in the kingsguard that are still loyal
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today. Man.
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We will need to have them removed, Lord Lannister.
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Oh yeah. The the treasury will be split
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and everything and and Allison is say you're looking at them
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because at first, when I Otto is telling them about the King's
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death. She's not looking at them.
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And if you notice, she's picking at her fingers again.
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She's sitting there nervous and when they start talking about it
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and going on with the conversation like there's no
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break in the conversation, she is looking up it.
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She is looking around light hot outside.
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So you guys already had a plan to install my son and didn't
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tell me and it was that whole plausible deniability.
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Well we didn't think we needed to burden you with the details
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and she sitting there listening to them, do all of this stuff
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and say all of this stuff about what they're going to do to take
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this throne. And she's the one who asked what
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about renier and they're like, oh, she can't remain free.
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She's going to have to be locked up and then Auto, you know, he
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kind of suggests that. Yeah, if she remains free, she's
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going to end up calling banners to her, and then there will be
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war and then they start talking about, oh, well, yeah.
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She needs to die or at least Allison says.
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So you mean to kill her? And they're like well you know
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that probably would be the best solution and this upsets her.
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Yes. And the Meister, they're trying
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to tell her, this is the best solution.
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She was like, you are not going to sit here and try to tell me
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that the series would have wanted this for her daughter for
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his daughter. He loved her.
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You will not deny that she was like, this is not what he would
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have wanted. Yeah.
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But he also he off, and he wouldn't have changed his mind
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in that way, knowing that it would put her In Harm's Way.
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Like, no. He, he would have anticipated
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that if you were to be thinking about changing my which, We know
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he wasn't and it is hilarious. Have they're like, yeah so we
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can go ahead and you know, they've already planned for the
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have a home. This is the thing, I truly
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believe that they have his plan in place regardless of whether
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he changed his mind or not. Wow, definitely see.
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Dive, they re going to put their plan in place regardless, like
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you'd were new. Or it could have been there in
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the castle and they would have locked her door and put their
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plan in place. Because it was too because we're
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literally bathes just left. Like this is the same night.
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Thanks morning of the plan. So Damon in her and the kids,
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they left already, like, within hours.
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And for the adults were at least for Alison and rhaenyra left on.
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Good terms. Right?
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Left on. Good terms.
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Like they were they were taking the first steps.
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To patch that bridge 220, I tell you.
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Please Barry. Let me give a shout out to my
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man, Lord bees Barry because he was not with the shit's 7 is 60
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years old. I have no viserys more longer
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than any of y'all. Y'all can't tell me that he made
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this declaration just to the boy's mother with nobody else
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and then died afterwards. Oh, I was like oh you basically
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sitting there accusing somebody like I do How convenient that is
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that he would have said this to her and then died.
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And then again, like I said no guards around nobody else
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around. No, Lord Confessor for the king,
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none of that. And so I can't think of what old
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boy's name is over on the for the Queen's left, he was like,
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so which one of us are you accused accusing of regicide?
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He was, I don't care if it was one of you, I don't care.
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If it was all of you will not stand for this.
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This is treason right there. Here, come on, it is treason.
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It is they don't know any, they don't know whether she tell the
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truth or not, the only and you can question her in their way
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because everyone's gonna question me the entire Kingdom
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would question it. Yeah, he said be all the Lords
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of like you said, maybe like these very, he said this and you
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were the only person Erie and he immediately died.
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And you either way that they handle things throughout the
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rest of the episode like the Lords and Ladies that are
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already there, they bring them to the throne room and he's
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like, oh yeah, this is what the Sarah says.
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So you guys are not going to swear Your Allegiance to aegon
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and you notice some people bent the need, those are probably the
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people who were on the fence anyway and then you have some
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people who will like I'm not bending the knee, I'm not an
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oathbreaker. One guy was like, let me go talk
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this over with my house and he was like, you can't leave until
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you swear obeisance. Really, I just gonna Force this
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out of people man. This is in effect, a coup.
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Well, not really a coup is C, so you certainly representational.
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Whatever is everything, patient supplication whatever, whatever
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it is, they are doing it and pour lower bees Barry.
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He is the only person in that room who is like, I'm not with
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this. The Here Comes sir.
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Kristin, Cole's old murdering ass again.
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I do not understand how he still is a white cloak, how he still
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has his position. He goes he grabs the Lord bees,
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buried by the shoulders and he pushes him down and says sit
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down and he pushes him so hard, his face hits the table and of
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course you know they have those little balls balls in the tables
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when they hold the meetings slams it right into his Temple
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and Lord bees burry is immediately dead.
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Hmm you got witnesses now. Because sir Harold is there.
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Otto hightower's there. The master is there?
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Jason Lannisters there? Oh, I can't, I don't know who
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this other guy is, but they're all sitting there looking at
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this and Alison is just like Lord like.
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And in the thing, is everyone on it.
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Anyone on the outside looking in you black, okay?
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You tell me the small Council walk them in the has a meeting
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decided that ain't gonna be king.
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And these berries dead That sounds suspiciously like the
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whole situation doesn't sound right well, see, we don't know
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how they handle it. It in the show because in the
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book criston Cole actually beheaded Lord, beats the well,
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okay, he's okay. One account.
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Is that these very was beheaded the other account is that he was
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thrown or quote unquote. Jumped from a window onto the
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ground below. I think one of the accounts So
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apparently they kind of kept it from people for like, maybe a
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week because in the book, no one knew viserys was made it make
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public that viserys was there for almost like they like they
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like the door? Yes.
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Like literally his body's his body started to smell.
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Hmm. And that's why they had to lock
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up so many of the service because people started
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questioning because you got the smell of death, on the air, who
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is the person in the castle that look close to death.
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Vicky. So yeah Lord beans Barry he's
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dead sir Harold challenges circumstance or Kristen is about
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to challenge him back. I'm like why is this do not dead
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yet? I mean I under I know why,
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because he's the hightower's Lackey but he there's no way he
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should be wearing a white cloak right now.
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But anyway, so I do tell sir Harold that he needs to take his
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white clothes. He needs to go to Dragonstone
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and he needs to complete the job efficiently and quickly.
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Discreetly basically say, you need to go and Slaughter
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rhaenyra and Her family. However, it gets done.
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You need to go do this and you need to go do this now.
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Sir Harold looks to him. He takes that cloak off.
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He was like, I'm the Lord commander of the kingsguard.
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That's the only Authority I recognize and until we have a
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king, I don't have a place here, he walks out the door and I was
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like I was looking because I thought sir Kristen was going to
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do something to him. I was like if you touch my man,
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we're going to fight. I know that in the book at this
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point, so he'll has been dead for like 20 years.
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Yeah. So I'm going to say he's
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probably on par with, or better than theirs too.
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So tell me which would mean that I don't like Kristen's chances
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against him in the one either. I don't need them but at that
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point, I think I really will, I really would want Kristen.
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Please try to squeeze in a fair fight in a fair fight.
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Oh yeah, he has absolutely no chance.
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I mean he is the commander of the kingsguard for a reason.
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Yeah. But I wouldn't put it past like
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the honor and the honor and dignity.
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He walked out if he's like know when that we're not doing this
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right. But that's all I'm saying.
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So Kristen I wouldn't put it past him to do a sneak attack to
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attack them from behind that sort of thing.
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So I wouldn't be surprised. But yeah.
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So sir Harold quits the kingsguard And the the new Whose
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name I can't remember. I forgot he said something
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because Alison is still trying to wrap her brain around the
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fact that they're planning to kill rhaenyra and she said
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something to him and he said something back and she was like,
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you open your mouth again. I'm going to send you to the
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wolves like I was she done shit. I had about enough of him but at
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the time I think she's also I feel like she's trying to find a
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way out of this because again she knows that's not what the
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Sarah's would have wanted. And that definitely would cause
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some kind of War, because even if even, if rhaenyra is killed,
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there are going to people who be people who backed her, who may
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be like oh y'all stole his throat and y'all killed.
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Okay, yeah, let's let's kind of see if we can write this wrong.
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but, At some point she realizes there really isn't much.
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You can do because now she don't even, she doesn't even
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technically have the power to do anything now.
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Even the different in the different universe.
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Alison would have seen the series his death as a way out of
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the prison she's been in and rainy says is much when she goes
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to get we will get to that but I'm saying she could have taken
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and been like, take your kids, take your grandchildren, go back
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to Old Town and be like we're gonna get a country estate and
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renewal can have the the Roan and y'all can have all this
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stuff and we're just gonna be over here, chilling in the
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reach. The only way she would have been
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able to do that is if her father had proceeded, viserys and
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death, because there is no way, Otto Hightower Is going to let
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that happen, especially when he heard his daughter out to the
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king in the first place. Just, for this particular
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reason, give him some Sons. So the sun will be the king and
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we will Elevate ourselves higher than, you know, to I mean, cuz
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yeah, yeah. But we see later she, she, she
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does get, she does show a little his spot.
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She did, she did show a little, a little metal, and a little
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steel. When it comes to him later.
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Yeah. Because he/she really sticking
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to her guns, about the ruin everything.
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She does not want Manera que period, so she's taking their
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guns on that. Right?
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But also, I think that little conversation she had with Ray
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nice, kind of put that in her too.
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Because she, she sitting here trying to be like, yeah, we, you
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know, we will never rule. But we can gently guide to men
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who do Andrei. Nice is like you just trying to
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do all of this so that you can kind of get a peek out of your
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prison window and see what's going on.
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She was like, you were still be holding to your husband, to your
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father, to your son and then we see also in this episode to lure
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lares. She is She is surrounded by men
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who do not have her best interests at heart.
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They're all greedy. They all want what they want,
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which is a gun on the king so they can all be elevated and
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everything. And she just wants a peaceful.
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I mean, she was viserys his wife just say, I mean, what was it?
00:24:36
That I do called him viserys the peaceful.
00:24:39
Yeah, it does not want any of this.
00:24:41
She even says, is much later on. She was like, when she talks to
00:24:45
Randy's, she said something about.
00:24:47
We we need to God. Man towards peace.
00:24:51
Yeah. Aaron their release is trying to
00:24:53
tell you being exploited by all the major surrounded by.
00:24:57
They're always spoiling you. Yeah, and I don't know why, but
00:25:02
it feels like Allison. Never.
00:25:07
Why won't say she never realized it?
00:25:10
I think maybe she realized it but she ignored it because what
00:25:13
could she do? She's not, she's not in a
00:25:17
position to where she can fight for her independence, where she
00:25:23
can fight and say, look, I don't want any of this stuff going on
00:25:26
because again, look who her father is her father has pretty
00:25:30
much controlled her. You know, used her as a puppet
00:25:34
to maneuver and do all of this stuff, she can't do what Lord
00:25:40
lane or did, and just, like, faked her death, and go off.
00:25:43
She's got three kids. Who are very obviously,
00:25:46
targaryens. Where could she go?
00:25:49
I think, I think we're nice would tell her you.
00:25:53
You probably have more power than you thought you did.
00:25:57
She could have if you could have, do you had a lot more
00:26:00
power than you thought you did? Yet you let the men do because
00:26:06
she was in this situation at such a young age.
00:26:09
Like it wasn't like she lived a life or, you know, even like
00:26:16
Emma who preceded, her, who probably ruled with more
00:26:21
Authority or have more leeway, or more Sway With the serious?
00:26:25
Yeah, I mean, so it wasn't something that she, she knew
00:26:31
that she could do. But that's just her not knowing
00:26:35
how to play the game. I think the other part of it
00:26:39
too, is that if you're constantly being looked at and
00:26:43
being treated as the spare, in that sense, you know, even up
00:26:48
until his dying breath, viserys loved Emma.
00:26:52
You know, I think he cared about Alison, but as far as loved her,
00:26:57
I don't know if he ever did, you know?
00:26:59
I think he was grateful to her because Is she comforted him
00:27:05
through the death of his wife and she was a great.
00:27:07
She was a good companion to him. She was a good wife to him.
00:27:11
I mean, rhaenyra even said as much, but I don't think he loved
00:27:17
her in that sense. And because of that, I think it
00:27:21
was just more so, okay? I'm just going to do my duty and
00:27:23
that's it. You know, I mean, he even called
00:27:26
her Emma's name, at one point during Lane has a funeral.
00:27:31
Yeah. So I think for her, maybe it was
00:27:35
just okay, you know what, let me do, what I'm supposed to do it.
00:27:38
She never thought about looking forward because as far as she
00:27:42
was concerned, he wanted right there on the throne and that was
00:27:46
what he said and that was what was going to be.
00:27:49
And I think she was naive in thinking that once viserys past
00:27:56
her father would honor those wishes.
00:27:59
I mean we see they already had a plan and even when Jason said
00:28:03
something he said, so am I to assume that we can now move
00:28:07
forward with our long laid plans with the Kings blessing?
00:28:12
Y'all were going to do it regardless?
00:28:13
Mmm, they were angry that she had no clue.
00:28:19
She had no clue. She met with the small Council
00:28:22
every day. Every week and the King said had
00:28:27
no clue that they were plotting behind her technically speaking.
00:28:30
That's treason if she really wanted to, she can have her
00:28:34
dad's head on a pike. Hmm.
00:28:36
If it were Cersei baby on pyke. Well, I don't know.
00:28:43
Because Tywin, kind of ruled in a in a with an iron hand in that
00:28:47
sense to upload Tool certain point up until Searcy also was
00:28:51
like, oh yeah. So you think you're this.
00:28:54
You think you're that? Oh let me tell you.
00:28:57
Yeah. So this whole Lannister Legacy
00:28:59
that you think you have? Yeah.
00:29:01
No, it's not good. Also, let me tell you.
00:29:05
I'm also sleeping with my brother.
00:29:06
How about that, you know, it took a while for her to get to
00:29:11
that point and it was at the point.
00:29:14
I think, where he was also treating her like like chattel
00:29:17
like, oh yeah. So yeah, the king is dead.
00:29:21
I'm gonna marry you to this person who was a lot younger and
00:29:24
you're going to Bear him kids first it was probably 40s.
00:29:29
And you want her to marry this young do they have kids?
00:29:32
Oddly enough a situation that Rainier was similarly in you
00:29:37
marry her to a gay guy and you can expect them to have children
00:29:41
together just so you can keep your place in the no starts.
00:29:46
We wouldn't have had this and I think has she been putting this
00:29:49
position? It would have been a totally
00:29:53
different thing. I mean, she of course she
00:29:55
probably would have been trying to put her children.
00:29:59
On the throne, but there was not a Ranier her for her in her
00:30:03
time. Yeah, it wasn't so.
00:30:07
Mmm. Anyway, unless you know the
00:30:13
injury had been legitimized but that's another story.
00:30:16
Yeah. Because because she had all the
00:30:21
Masters killed the injury. Right?
00:30:25
But of course, whoever hit him, they had him.
00:30:28
Well, anyway, moving on. So here's the plan, we're going
00:30:35
to usurp the throne. We're going to put egg on on the
00:30:39
throne, make him King. We are going to go and try to
00:30:44
kill rhaenyra and all her family, so that she can't
00:30:46
contest it. They go to aegon's Rooms to look
00:30:51
for him. He's not there.
00:30:53
They come to find hellena and she's in there with the kids.
00:30:57
Now, I've started paying a little more attention to the
00:31:00
stuff that Helena says, mmm because The things that she
00:31:07
says, tend to come true and whatever weird way.
00:31:11
And as she's a she's in there with her kids and they come in,
00:31:16
she's telling the nanny, she says it is Our Fate.
00:31:20
I think to Crave, always, what is given to another.
00:31:23
If one possesses a thing, the other will take it away and the
00:31:28
Nan is just like, yes, princess like, I have no idea what you're
00:31:31
talking about, okay? But okay.
00:31:33
And then right after that, her mother and grandmother.
00:31:36
Father walking the room looking for a guy and I'm like she
00:31:39
always says the right thing at the right time.
00:31:45
You know what I'm saying? Cause she's literally talking
00:31:47
about The Throne right there. Hmm.
00:31:50
I was like okay so what other nuggets of wisdom is she going
00:31:54
to speak? I miss have a circle where
00:31:58
anyway, we'll get to that in a minute.
00:32:01
So, of course, they're looking for egg on and they're like,
00:32:03
where is he shoes? Like not here.
00:32:08
Like the most obvious answer, right?
00:32:10
And I don't like, we went to his rooms and he's not there.
00:32:14
She's looking at him. Like didn't I just say he ain't
00:32:16
here. Like why do I care where he is?
00:32:20
And she realizes that something has happened.
00:32:23
She asked her mother. What's happened to Alison sits
00:32:26
next to her? And the first two words she says
00:32:28
is your father and then Helena says there's a beast beneath the
00:32:32
boards. Her mother is like she thinks
00:32:36
this is just one of her ramblings and she tries to come
00:32:38
for her. She was like there was a beast
00:32:40
beneath the boys. I'm like hmm.
00:32:42
Okay so what does she mean about that?
00:32:47
Then Here Comes, amen. And amen.
00:32:50
Amen is I will say this, in this episode, I was very intrigued
00:32:57
with his character because he walks in and he immediately
00:33:02
looks like, okay, he walks in, he knows what's happened, he can
00:33:05
tell what's happened, and there's kind of like a mixture
00:33:09
of sadness, and I won't say happy.
00:33:14
I won't say happiness, I don't think he was happy, that his
00:33:17
father was dead, but it was like sadness.
00:33:20
And also Nation, I guess because he's like, damn.
00:33:26
Now, this means my brother is King.
00:33:29
You know what I'm saying? Like he's dreading this and we
00:33:31
see this throughout the episode because as he's talking about
00:33:35
aegon and his his behavior, and the way he acts in the way he
00:33:42
kind of shuns, he doesn't want to be king.
00:33:44
And, you know, just the things that we see and learn about egg
00:33:47
on, in this episode. It's clear that amen.
00:33:50
Is kind of like, he should be the king.
00:33:53
I should, I'm the one who studies.
00:33:56
I'm the one, who trains. I'm the one.
00:33:58
Who does what a ruler should do. Or I behave in the way that that
00:34:04
an air should. And I have the biggest dragon in
00:34:07
the world, and I have the biggest dragon in the world.
00:34:09
Of course, we can't forget that, but it's like, I feel like he
00:34:18
was sad in the sense that his father was gone.
00:34:21
You know, even though we never really saw viserys have much of
00:34:25
a relationship with with them still that's your dad, you know.
00:34:30
But I think he was probably more horrified because realizing that
00:34:35
your mom is in the room that's probably a sign that.
00:34:39
Oh here we go with this bullshit.
00:34:41
You off and try and steal. This throw y'all finna try to
00:34:43
put him on the phone, really? And I felt like I could see the
00:34:47
irritation in his face, just a little bit and it's like he
00:34:53
pulls it off. Very nonchalantly.
00:34:58
But I noticed he pays attention to a lot of things. and I was
00:35:04
just like listening to him through the episode when he was
00:35:07
talking to Sir Kristen Cole, he was like, Yeah, he could be
00:35:12
dead. He can.
00:35:13
Somebody could have kidnapped him.
00:35:15
He could be somewhere else, but he's not where he's supposed to
00:35:18
be right now. Now that I'm the air, if they
00:35:21
come looking for me, you best believe, I'm gonna be found, he
00:35:24
was like I should be the king. You know, and I just it's one of
00:35:31
those things when the things this is, the egg on didn't even
00:35:34
want it. Like, he doesn't even want it,
00:35:36
he doesn't want it. He doesn't want.
00:35:39
It doesn't want it. And it got himself says that.
00:35:44
I mean, he said it a couple of episodes ago when Alison went to
00:35:47
go talk to him. He was like, why would American
00:35:50
have it? I won't challenge it.
00:35:52
And Allison was like, you are the challenge.
00:35:55
And I want this, and I think that started from that moment
00:36:00
when his mother came in there and said you, you would either
00:36:04
be king or you will die, because she will kill you.
00:36:07
Again, that's something that auto put on her right in there
00:36:11
has never given that indication that, that is what she would do
00:36:15
to her brother's. You know what I'm saying?
00:36:17
And I think from that moment, hey guy was probably like five
00:36:23
to do this thing. I don't want to do or else I'm
00:36:24
gonna die. Like what the fuck kind of life
00:36:26
is this? Yeah, let me go just do whatever
00:36:29
the fuck I want to do because your finger you got a yellow
00:36:32
until he becomes king, he can't do it.
00:36:34
No more, right? Because I let me do, let me go
00:36:37
do whatever it is. I want to do because I'm not
00:36:39
going to be able to do it and we see he is been doing quite a bit
00:36:43
starting with the street of silk and then going towards more bike
00:36:51
club. Well, if the it's like this
00:36:56
Cockfighting. Yes, it's like Junior versus
00:36:59
writing. You have kids in a ring where
00:37:03
their teeth and their nails have been sharpened and they're
00:37:07
fighting each other to the death.
00:37:09
And this is the kind of thing that he I guess goes and looks
00:37:13
at and partake fan. And and even his name is one of
00:37:17
the twins is like you really want because the twins are
00:37:21
looking for between kingsguard are looking for.
00:37:25
A guy and one of them is like you really want someone on the
00:37:29
throne. This is where they get their
00:37:31
suits and Google's that was Sir Eric.
00:37:34
Yeah, you really want the person on the throne who who is into
00:37:37
this perverted detestable type of crap, right?
00:37:44
And not only that as Sir Eric points out he was like, yeah,
00:37:49
this is the kind of thing that Prince aegon is into.
00:37:51
And you know, also let me show you this over here and There's a
00:37:55
little silver-haired boy up under the stands.
00:38:02
And Eric is like, is that, is that his bastard Sir?
00:38:06
Eric is like, oh, yeah, one of one of many probably but I find
00:38:14
it interesting. So we're going to get a little
00:38:17
bit into book discussion right here.
00:38:19
How far in the book are you as far as the story?
00:38:25
I started the beginning. Okay, book.
00:38:28
So I haven't gotten to any of this yet.
00:38:30
But I do know in the book. He has he has Bachelors.
00:38:35
Hmm. So the girl and a boy, right?
00:38:39
At least two at least. Yeah at least two so I think
00:38:44
this is one that is going to have a prominent role towards
00:38:48
the end of the dance of dragons. I believe that maybe this child
00:38:53
here. But I was sitting here thinking
00:38:56
like technically speaking, he's sitting up under some boards to
00:39:04
so that's what I was wondering. I was like, so is it is it the
00:39:08
dragon like we found out later on?
00:39:10
You know, what happens or is it this child's?
00:39:13
Like, it could be both, you know, how proud, you know, how
00:39:16
prophecies and scenes work. That's true.
00:39:21
And I mean, isn't she said twice?
00:39:24
This is the same way as she says it, once at the beginning and
00:39:28
then during the coronation, I believe she says it again.
00:39:35
But yeah, so the child is the interesting thing.
00:39:39
And then of course, while they're there in the pit but
00:39:42
young lady comes up to them and she was like, Hey, I can take
00:39:46
you guys to Prince egg on there looking at her.
00:39:48
Like what do you mean? She was like oh yeah my master,
00:39:52
you know, I know somebody who knows where he is, you might
00:39:54
want to see what the White Worm has to say and she walks off,
00:39:57
they follow her now. On the other hand, the twins are
00:40:02
looking for Prince aegon for auto.
00:40:06
Hmm, Allison has sent sir, Kristen.
00:40:09
In to look for him and a man has tagged along with him.
00:40:13
Now this is the interesting thing about this.
00:40:16
So when Alison walks up to Star Kristen to ask him to go find
00:40:22
egg on, she says this thing where she was like, what did she
00:40:27
say? I trust in your feelings for me
00:40:30
as a princess or so or as a queen or something like that and
00:40:35
I was like So is she using whatever?
00:40:40
You know it's obvious. Her Kristen has An unnatural
00:40:46
attachment to her and a simple natural.
00:40:50
I'm just saying he has killed ice for her already.
00:40:52
Yeah. And you know, he can't have a
00:40:58
family. He can't, he can't be with a
00:41:01
woman and the one time he was with woman that just kind of
00:41:04
broke his heart because he wanted her to run away with him
00:41:08
and she refused. So I'm like okay.
00:41:11
Is he harboring like the secret crush towards the queen now?
00:41:15
Is she's calling it in like okay.
00:41:17
Yeah, so I know how you feel about me as your queen.
00:41:20
I was like nah, something's fishy about that.
00:41:23
Wait, wait, you don't think for a second that he has already hit
00:41:27
it? Because I'm almost certain.
00:41:29
He has, I don't think he has I wouldn't be.
00:41:35
I'm not, I wouldn't be surprised.
00:41:38
I would be surprised if you had like, they had your moment where
00:41:43
come on now because it's because he is such a prude think about
00:41:48
it. He is such a prude and he is so
00:41:51
he has this warped sense of honor and responsibility.
00:41:56
Like he's a white cloak, he's not supposed to lay with the
00:42:00
woman. He's supposed to be celibate.
00:42:01
He's not supposed to have Surely, he's not supposed to
00:42:03
have a family, he broke that once for rhaenyra and look what
00:42:07
it got him. So I think he would be like oh
00:42:10
no, I'm not falling for that trap again.
00:42:12
I'm not going to be somebody's boy.
00:42:14
Toy just for them to treat. I don't think he would be down
00:42:19
for that. I mean I would think so I would
00:42:22
think that maybe his value system has become corrupted and
00:42:27
it's not not not a nap, not in that sense.
00:42:30
I don't think I don't think so that's One of the reasons why
00:42:33
he's so fucking uptight here. There are none.
00:42:38
Come on now. Hey, wouldn't it be that uptight
00:42:42
if he know he is sexually repressed?
00:42:45
I do truly believe that he may be alive with her, but I think
00:42:49
he is truly truly sexually. Repressed, he wouldn't have
00:42:53
hesitated to go and kill Romero. No, no, absolutely not.
00:42:58
That's probably why she did not task him with going to rent.
00:43:02
It, know you, hey, yes! Go find my son.
00:43:05
He might be in some disreputable parts of the Town.
00:43:07
Go find him. Yeah.
00:43:10
So sir, Kristen and Eamonn, they go.
00:43:12
And like I said, they go to the street of silk now.
00:43:16
I got a little bit confused on the conversation that a minute
00:43:20
sir Kristen was having. So when they get ready to go
00:43:23
towards one of the brothels Amos says, Hey, God brought me to the
00:43:29
street of silk for my 13th birthday.
00:43:32
I think to make sure that I was as educated as he was, or at
00:43:36
least, that's what I gathered. And star Kristen is like, how do
00:43:40
you mean a man says? He said, it's time to get it
00:43:43
wet, so I was like, so does that mean?
00:43:46
Mean, that aegon took him, but he didn't do anything.
00:43:49
Like I kind of got that Vibe. Like maybe he was like, I'm not
00:43:55
going to do this because it's doing this makes me like that.
00:43:59
I'd rather not No, I took it to mean that a guy took him in,
00:44:07
they're going to take him to him so he can lose his virginity and
00:44:11
he did see I I read that a different way like he yes, that
00:44:17
was the purpose for him, taking him but when he said or you know
00:44:22
he brought me to the street of silk when I was 13 so that I
00:44:25
could be as educated it as him or so I'm or so that's what I
00:44:30
thought or that's what. I assumed he meant or something.
00:44:34
I don't know. Just something about the way he
00:44:36
said, it made me feel like, yeah, this is what he tried to
00:44:40
do. Yeah, yeah.
00:44:43
But then then the mathematics him like, oh, she was familiar
00:44:48
with him like, oh, you're back. You know me?
00:44:51
Like, I mean if he brought if he brought him there, yeah, she
00:44:54
would know who he is, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he
00:44:58
did anything. And you know, she just looked at
00:45:00
him. She was like, Um my haven't you
00:45:03
grown up and he just went huh and then walked off something
00:45:07
tells me that didn't go the way the egg on wanted it to go
00:45:11
because I feel like even would have he could do.
00:45:14
I feel like a man would have looked at that because if you
00:45:16
look at how out of control egg on is especially if you sing how
00:45:22
depraved his mind is, he goes to chill.
00:45:25
You know, these fights with children and he's been
00:45:29
apparently horn All Around flea bottom and leaving back.
00:45:31
Bastards everywhere and he's a drunk.
00:45:34
And just I mean even his appearance, the way we see him,
00:45:37
you can tell he doesn't have it quite altogether.
00:45:40
I feel like a man would have looked at that and be like,
00:45:42
okay, this is what he's doing to be like this, I'm not touching
00:45:45
it. Well, you can still have done it
00:45:51
and still have me there value decision like he can like, you
00:45:55
know. Yeah, I did it.
00:45:57
And, you know, it this is not for me.
00:45:59
Okay. This would I take you to me?
00:46:02
Yeah, because I saw shame in his look when she says something
00:46:08
him. Yeah.
00:46:08
It was like looking for him. Oh yeah.
00:46:11
Like, I remember what happened in though?
00:46:13
Yeah. No.
00:46:15
I don't mean like, Oh yeah, he walked away from there because
00:46:19
maybe he walked away Vin but he did something.
00:46:21
He just realized that this was not for him.
00:46:24
Okay? I just thought it was very well.
00:46:27
I also find it very well, weird that a man is supposed to be 16.
00:46:33
He does not look like 16 year old know and I'm telling you I
00:46:37
think it has a lot to do with the dragon.
00:46:39
Yeah I was going to say that to be good and I think also to
00:46:44
maybe just his His mindset and his maturity, you know, he, he
00:46:53
seems. So I don't want to say hi
00:46:54
strong, but he seems so overly in control of himself, whereas,
00:46:58
his brother is the complete opposite.
00:47:01
And I think that ages him a little bit, you know, or at
00:47:04
least that's what the appearance is supposed to be, he's more
00:47:07
mature, he's more stable than his brother and as we can tell,
00:47:13
he's a lot more intelligent than his brother.
00:47:16
So I think he's Opposed to have that more mature look but I was
00:47:20
like, yeah, laughing tell me this dude is 16 like no.
00:47:24
Anyway, everybody's old is Damon.
00:47:26
Sometimes will be damaged child almost.
00:47:34
But yeah. So anyway, sir Kristin and
00:47:35
Damian are looking for a gone and so are certain areas there
00:47:41
Eric and basically what happens is the twins, they End up going
00:47:48
to Auto and bringing him to me with the white worm because of
00:47:51
course. But she said something like oh
00:47:53
we got the prince. That's something that they are
00:47:57
going to pay attention to and then when they sit down Auto is
00:47:59
like, how do I know you're not telling, you know, you're
00:48:01
telling the truth and she says, to him my condolences on the
00:48:06
passing of your king Auto was like pay her.
00:48:10
I don't know how she knows this but she knows pay her and then
00:48:15
she starts talking to him giving her demands as far as what she
00:48:20
wants. For the role that she's about to
00:48:22
play and handing over the prince to him.
00:48:24
And basically she just wants She's like, look, I want these
00:48:26
children fight rings to stop. I want the children to stop
00:48:29
being mistreated in flea bottom. You know, she was like children.
00:48:33
I treat it like beasts and your gold cloaks look the other way.
00:48:37
They pay no attention, or your white clothes date, they pay no
00:48:40
attention. They let this Behavior happen
00:48:43
and I wanted to stop and I was like, yeah, I'll look into it.
00:48:48
I was like You Really Gonna book you really believe he's going to
00:48:50
do that but she gets in the information he wants, but I Let
00:48:57
me say this and you see my dog on Scream name her accent,
00:49:04
bothers the hell out of me? Because I don't know something
00:49:09
about it. It's like when I hear her talk
00:49:12
because it's like, she talks with this weird accent and then
00:49:15
sometimes she says, words with kind of like a soft lisp and
00:49:20
then sometimes she doesn't and then her accent chair.
00:49:24
It's Like running your fingernails over a chalkboard
00:49:29
for me. He's not consistent.
00:49:32
No and it's just it's horribly done.
00:49:39
Like what? Like what are you?
00:49:41
This is she supposed to be like I don't know any of her history
00:49:45
basic suppose we from volantis, she's from lease.
00:49:50
Nice Lise. Lise.
00:49:53
Okay, you know like two years of leaf.
00:49:55
Yeah, yeah, she's from lease. So I I mean I don't know what
00:50:00
they're asking is but oh my gosh, she is, it's terrible.
00:50:05
It's irritable. Trying to listen to her go
00:50:07
through this dialogue where she's like, she's supposed to be
00:50:11
this, a luring mysterious and I guess it's supposed to come off
00:50:16
as sexy in a way because of the type of work that she does now
00:50:21
like she was she used to be Damon's whore and then she kind
00:50:25
of Rose in the ranks and now she He owns several of the brothels
00:50:30
and as we mentioned a couple of episodes ago, she is now she is
00:50:33
the current times Mistress of Whispers so she has some power.
00:50:39
But just, I don't know her. She just kind of irritates me at
00:50:44
this point. Then anyway, she's out somewhere
00:50:48
to find egg on. Aegon is hiding in the steps.
00:50:51
Not only is he hiding in the center, he's like up under What
00:50:57
is that Center piece? Cause like, it's almost like a
00:51:00
halter. Yeah, it's the same little altar
00:51:04
that rhaenyra and Alison, we're praying in front of when Rainier
00:51:10
is mother passed, but he's literally hiding in there and
00:51:14
when they pull them out, no, no. When they are trying to pull him
00:51:18
out because he doesn't want to be pulled over in the pulling
00:51:22
them out and then he ends up running trying to get away and
00:51:26
it's so Funny at this point because Sir Eric, you know, Eric
00:51:31
with the a he is their fight. Not not fighting him, but he's
00:51:37
like holding him down. He was like you run from what
00:51:39
most men would would want. You know, he's sitting there
00:51:44
trying to get control of him and trying to hold him and he's like
00:51:48
yeah, the Laura had the Lord hand your grandfather wants to
00:51:51
see you and blah blah blah. And Sir, Eric is just looking
00:51:56
off to the side. Like, I want no part of this.
00:52:00
None. And literally, from that point
00:52:03
on, you start to see that little divide between the brothers
00:52:08
because, Sir, Eric goes outside, he has a gun, and we walked
00:52:13
outside. You see.
00:52:14
Amen. And you see, sir Crispin Cole.
00:52:16
So, of course, the criston, Cole has his sword out.
00:52:19
He's like, yo, we don't take them now.
00:52:22
His grandfather wants him. Or his mother wants him.
00:52:25
We're going to take them. They get into a sword fight and
00:52:29
God takes off a man takes off fast.
00:52:31
After his brother tackles him and they get into a tussle.
00:52:34
So Eric is up on the balcony. Just looking like, yeah, I'm not
00:52:40
really Benny and I in it and they found them.
00:52:45
Yeah. Carla says, so your brother's
00:52:49
not gonna help you, Eric is just sitting and looking at
00:52:52
everything. Hey guys.
00:52:53
Dan is screaming to everyone in the streets, basically, because
00:52:57
you screaming at your brother, everybody can hear you.
00:53:00
I have no wish to rule, I'm not fit for it.
00:53:04
A nose, like you won't get an argument from me there.
00:53:08
And then he says, is it true that our fathers dead at a man?
00:53:13
Says yes. And they're going to Crown you
00:53:15
King and there he spits on his brother, Mike What?
00:53:22
I don't know. This dude.
00:53:24
Clearly doesn't want to be king. He even tells a me, he was like,
00:53:27
look, let me just get on the boat.
00:53:28
I would go far away from here. You will never see me again.
00:53:31
And you can tell a man is looking like, yeah, so bad idea
00:53:36
that work, but of course, Kristin Cola has to come up in
00:53:39
and ruin everything else. Yeah, let's take you to your
00:53:43
mother. I was like a man is sitting
00:53:46
there looking like, fuck. I almost had it was right there
00:53:51
but that let me tell you a gun. And I guess the thing that's
00:53:58
really confusing for me. Well, I won't say confusing for
00:54:01
me because we see so little of him and we have in, you know,
00:54:07
the the previous episodes. So aside from that conversation
00:54:12
Allison had with him. We really have no reason why he
00:54:16
is the way he is except for the fact that well, no, because he's
00:54:20
not even, he's not even full Targaryen He's Targaryen and
00:54:26
Hightower. So it can't be that whole
00:54:28
inbreeding messing with your mind thing because he's have
00:54:32
Targaryen. I think it was just a lack of
00:54:36
nurturing that and and I don't know.
00:54:43
Because he really there's something wrong bit, but there's
00:54:45
something, like, even Helena has something off with her too.
00:54:51
So if this not necessarily, you don't necessarily have to be,
00:54:57
you know, Inbred to manifest in manifest, some mental health
00:55:03
issues and it's the see it would just make you more, likely be it
00:55:09
increases the probability that two of the three kids, you know,
00:55:15
because he has I guess I'm looking at Helena, like, I'm
00:55:19
looking at her Lena. I feel like she's more of a
00:55:21
seer. And not necessarily that
00:55:25
anything is wrong with her. I know in the in the books, I
00:55:28
think they call it, she has Dragon dreams and basically
00:55:33
dreams that are kind of Prophecy in a way.
00:55:37
So, but we, but we can kind of love all that stuff into the
00:55:41
same. Vicinity like it comes up
00:55:46
because of XYZ. Right, you know.
00:55:53
And there's, I don't know, there's a lot of strange stuff
00:55:57
that happens in the Targaryen family tree.
00:56:00
This is true. So this is true.
00:56:03
But I mean the fact that he is so at he is so adamant that he
00:56:07
doesn't want to hit to the point where I almost feel like the
00:56:12
stuff that he does. You know, the the alcoholism,
00:56:18
the going around siren bastarz, raping the, the first Nanny that
00:56:23
they have. I feel in a way, like all of
00:56:26
this Behavior stuff that he is doing on purpose, so that they
00:56:29
will say he is unfit to be king and passed over him.
00:56:34
I almost feel like that's what it is and it's to the point now
00:56:38
where he's panicking because he's like, I've done all this
00:56:40
stupid shit, y'all still want me to keep became?
00:56:43
What the fuck is wrong with y'all?
00:56:45
Yeah, but when he already ate two before, it was a
00:56:49
possibility. and he's mine, like he was jacking off out of the
00:56:55
window, consider that odd because best I mean, granted
00:57:02
maybe not, I'm not standing on the window ledge but I mean,
00:57:05
okay, this part always do, I think that the thing about him
00:57:11
being the we we teenage boy is not going to stand outside of
00:57:17
know, that's why I said, I said I'm not talking about the
00:57:19
standing on the window part but you Not going to sit here and
00:57:21
tell me the teenage boys on jack off.
00:57:23
That is not have no, it's not, it's not what else?
00:57:26
I wasn't saying that was something that is a mental
00:57:36
thing. Like, oh, he's kind of off
00:57:38
because he's doing that. He literally could have been
00:57:41
just feeling like I'm the Prince, I can do what I want.
00:57:45
People who are in power, they do stupid things sometimes just
00:57:48
because they can, he, that could, In him, I won't say that,
00:57:52
that was something that was like, oh yeah, he's a bit
00:57:55
touched in the head. No, he felt like jacking off and
00:57:58
he was probably just like fuck these people anyway.
00:58:02
Um, I mean it can happen, we really like we could spend an
00:58:07
hour on this so we are not we ask but there is a sliding
00:58:13
scale. Yeah, this type of stuff.
00:58:16
So he his sister may be up here, you know?
00:58:20
No, the Mad King may be way up here, he might be down here
00:58:24
somewhere. This is that, you know, a naming
00:58:28
is almost psychopath so they are all on the scale of that.
00:58:35
So, see you say he's almost a psychopath right now, and I'll
00:58:40
be honest up to this point. We really haven't seen any
00:58:46
behavior that would really put in that direction.
00:58:50
He hasn't acted irrationally in anything.
00:58:55
He's mouth off a couple of times we've seen that, he has become a
00:58:59
great fighter or at least he trains very well.
00:59:03
But we know that was a result of him being bullied.
00:59:05
That doesn't necessarily mean he is a psychopath.
00:59:08
He's just, I didn't say he was a psychopath.
00:59:11
Well, you said he's showing signs of it or close and I don't
00:59:16
think that's the case. Well, actually it's not
00:59:19
necessarily so We'll have more verse is sociopath that with the
00:59:23
sweat. Again, what have we seen?
00:59:25
That would make you go towards that difference to other
00:59:28
people's feelings that and that slight bit of narcissism,
00:59:35
typical of a sociopath and their people who are famous, who are
00:59:39
popular, who are sociopaths is that necessarily a bad thing?
00:59:42
It's just this how he operates the I'm not there's not anything
00:59:46
inherently wrong about being a sociopath Some of our presidents
00:59:52
and a lot of CEOs, a lot of important people are sociopaths.
00:59:56
It's just, there's a sort of indifference to your actions
01:00:01
affecting other people's feelings and I caring about the
01:00:04
result of those things. But again, like don't feel bad
01:00:07
about to bash in your nephews head because you're upset about,
01:00:13
you know, some stuff that might be indication of a little bit of
01:00:18
impulse control problems. Okay?
01:00:23
We gotta talk about this because again even with even with the
01:00:28
thing about him getting ready to bash can just sit Jason's head
01:00:32
head, they jumped him basically, so he was defending himself, I
01:00:38
don't, look at that. That's not I don't think that
01:00:41
was him being out of control in that since he was a child first
01:00:45
and foremost and yes, he went and claims his dragon that he
01:00:50
was Bragging about it or whatever.
01:00:52
I don't think he, I don't think his character is that of, oh,
01:00:58
I'm going to say something or do something to people and I don't
01:01:01
care how they feel about it. He very much cares, how they
01:01:04
feel about it, and he's doing it as almost like a defense
01:01:08
mechanism, because this is a child who was bullied.
01:01:12
This is a child who felt less than because he claimed the
01:01:17
dragon later than his siblings did.
01:01:20
Even, I mean, even his younger sister had a dragon and he
01:01:24
didn't at the time. You know what I'm saying?
01:01:26
This is a person who felt unloved, as we see, probably all
01:01:30
of the saracens other children do.
01:01:33
He felt unloved? He was bullied.
01:01:35
And then during this moment of, hey, this is what I did.
01:01:40
He gets into a fight with, not just one, but four of his
01:01:44
cousins or four of his family members, they jump him, he had
01:01:48
to defend himself, And from that point on, especially with him
01:01:52
losing II, he was probably like no, I'm never going to put
01:01:56
myself in that position again. I'm never going to let myself be
01:01:58
in that position again. I don't look at that as
01:02:02
something bordering on, you know, or having any indication
01:02:10
of him having any mental health issues.
01:02:12
This is a person who is defensive because of the world
01:02:17
in the way that he has been brought up in and He's just
01:02:21
like, okay, I'm going to try really hard, I'm going to study
01:02:24
real hard. I'm going to make sure that no
01:02:27
one could say anything negative about me and he does yes he does
01:02:31
have an air superiority about him but it's because I feel like
01:02:35
he knows he's better than the rest of them and that's just how
01:02:39
he, you know, that's how he feels just like he's
01:02:42
overcompensating for the lack of from his brother but I don't
01:02:48
think I don't think there's anything.
01:02:50
A thing pointing to sociopaths Psychopaths anything with him.
01:02:55
Now I would say it maybe more so for book him, but that's only
01:03:01
because I know where the story is going.
01:03:03
But right here in this moment, if we're just going by the show,
01:03:07
he has an exhibited, any kind of behavior that I will, I will say
01:03:10
that. A lot of the things that you you
01:03:13
use to defend him. Uh-huh, are a lot of of markers
01:03:17
that would indicate pray. A person who would be on the
01:03:22
path to being a sociopath like all those things add up to a
01:03:27
person being in the position to at least indicate that they
01:03:34
could be a sociopath as an adult.
01:03:38
So you know I mean we like I see we can go back and forth about
01:03:43
this and you know the harder you the more you defend him and the
01:03:49
things that he does Does. And the actions that he takes
01:03:52
and the things that motivate him are the things that would
01:03:57
indicate a person who would be on the way to being a sociopath.
01:04:01
And I'm not saying that that is a bad thing because people can
01:04:05
be functioning sociopath it's not necessarily Mill to help his
01:04:10
mental health. Like, he could be perfectly fine
01:04:14
and be a sociopath. There's a lot of people who are
01:04:16
perfectly fine and the sociopaths don't go around
01:04:19
murdering people. And we haven't seen him just
01:04:22
outright murder some way. No, we haven't seen him do that.
01:04:26
Mmm. They realized sociopaths who
01:04:30
don't murder people, I'm just saying that there's there.
01:04:33
Things that add up in a person's personality that either through
01:04:38
how they were raised or their genetics would lead him to be a
01:04:43
certain way. That may not be where a normal
01:04:47
person, under those same circumstances would be.
01:04:51
Yeah, I mean, so yeah, it may not be a sociopath but then I
01:04:57
can be gone. Me that he could be a sociopath.
01:05:00
You can go either way, I guess. I just because he's easy to use
01:05:05
Easy to want to defend him when you hear mental health in, I
01:05:10
don't want people to think that I'm seeing that that was a bad
01:05:13
thing because he could be a sociopath me five.
01:05:17
That's the same thing with Damon.
01:05:18
Damon had some issues and he's perfectly fine.
01:05:22
No, I mean it is not perfectly so we can't even have a whole
01:05:25
other conversation perfectly fine.
01:05:27
We have a whole The conversation about that because he has some
01:05:30
narcissism in him too. But yes, my he also murdered and
01:05:34
done so gleefully. So that there is a difference in
01:05:36
their lives, but he always, but the thing is, he always has a
01:05:39
purpose. His murders are not random and
01:05:43
and excessive he actually has a he has objective in his
01:05:48
murdering if you can see by the murder.
01:05:52
Yeah, well it depends on depends on your perspective like his Is
01:05:58
murder of vaiman was justified. Like he was clearly given
01:06:06
permission by the king to do such a thing.
01:06:10
The king wanted to add his head. There is a told me, you can't
01:06:16
live with, you can still live with your tongue cut out.
01:06:19
You cannot live with the upper half of your head.
01:06:23
Cut off. There is a difference.
01:06:25
Okay, well I mean we could go art was it?
01:06:29
Not treason and what is the punishment for treason?
01:06:32
Okay. Okay, right.
01:06:34
But again, that's something that the king should have, but yeah
01:06:37
we could go back and for I guess, I guess the thing for me
01:06:40
is especially in our society, we hear the words like social
01:06:44
passing. They're always and they always
01:06:46
say - life and negative connotation and like I'm here to
01:06:50
say that isn't okay. Yeah because that's what that's
01:06:53
what I was going to say. Because like, even up until now
01:06:55
Even with the fight in the last episode, hey, basically mild off
01:07:00
because they were making fun of him, or at least Luke was, he
01:07:04
was making fun of him with the, with the whole pig thing.
01:07:07
Again, going back to that bullying, when he was a child.
01:07:10
So that's that's the only thing like, I know.
01:07:13
Some people are like, okay, yeah, he's this and other and
01:07:15
I'm like, up until this point in the show, we have not seen
01:07:19
anything that will make me. Look at aim and be like, yeah,
01:07:22
you know what that dude needs to go down because everything And I
01:07:25
feel like everything that he has done has not, it's not been too,
01:07:31
he's not really hurt anybody, you know what I'm saying?
01:07:35
Even when he was fighting with the other little kids, yeah, he
01:07:39
could have hurt Jason. That's why I was very much say I
01:07:42
was like he was about to bash his head in.
01:07:44
So yes, I understand Luke defending them and unfortunately
01:07:48
it cost him his eye, but in that situation, both sides of the,
01:07:53
you know, fight were wrong. I just bury the the thing is we
01:07:59
do forget that he's still a teenager.
01:08:02
It's right to be 6 a.m. most adolescents and teenagers are
01:08:09
going to. If you give them a test
01:08:13
assessment, they're going to assess narcissist and sociopath
01:08:19
because that's just what hormones do to you.
01:08:23
That you know you don't know how the World functions in a normal
01:08:27
way yet because you haven't lived yet, right?
01:08:29
So, a lot of the things you do is going to be about you and
01:08:32
your feelings and not really caring about how other people
01:08:35
feel hollow thing is. Yeah, he made score on that
01:08:40
scale to because he he doesn't, he doesn't seem to be as
01:08:46
sensitive about other people's feelings, as he is about his own
01:08:50
feelings. Okay, I was busy against Ponce
01:08:56
his response to their, a lot of ways you can do with bullying
01:09:01
and there's a lot of ways you are clearly a superior
01:09:06
individual over your nephews. Hmm.
01:09:10
Clearly, you know, this, everybody knows this, right?
01:09:14
So there was really no reason to insult them.
01:09:18
Okay? So yeah, Luke laughed when the P
01:09:20
came out. Mmm.
01:09:22
Wait, can look through T. Right.
01:09:24
Absolutely nothing at that point.
01:09:28
Luke was in the line of succession and he was well at
01:09:33
that moment, but he's not thinking about the lines
01:09:36
decision, he's thinking about him, laughing at him and
01:09:40
reliving that moment. He was being bullied even though
01:09:43
at this moment, he could take Luke's face and plaster all over
01:09:48
the room and the only person who can stop him.
01:09:51
It either be Christian coal or Damon, those aren't some people
01:09:55
in there that can stop him. So how was this boy?
01:09:59
Laughing and giggling. Really because of the P because
01:10:04
if he was reliving that moment. He's here too.
01:10:07
You were offended. You were hurt and you decided to
01:10:10
insult people knowing that your insult is a problem.
01:10:18
You understand seeing you could have done a whole lot of other
01:10:21
things, other than the one thing that could get anyone else
01:10:26
murdered or killed for trees. So again, you're not thinking
01:10:31
about the consequences of of how that affects everyone around you
01:10:36
because you were offended. This all this all I'm saying is
01:10:41
that necessarily a bad thing? It's just who he is.
01:10:45
Yeah and all those things that happened to him created him for
01:10:49
what he is. Now the same reason, you know
01:10:51
we'll talk about this later. What happens later what was that
01:10:55
about? That's about your ego again
01:10:57
being a narcissist and yes it happens.
01:11:01
Oh well the consequences are going to be fucked up because
01:11:05
you had to be the bigger person. Ian.
01:11:10
Yeah, what we can do, you can't just let shit go.
01:11:13
Yeah, now I got you, I got you. So we're gonna move on from him
01:11:20
because I'm sure we're going to have plenty more to talk about
01:11:22
him later on. But going back to going back to
01:11:27
the castle. So we talked about Sir, Eric and
01:11:29
Sir, Eric and them kind of starting to diverge in their,
01:11:33
you know, in their thought processes.
01:11:36
And we mentioned earlier that princess rhaenyra It was being
01:11:39
held captive in the room. And that's because what Auto
01:11:44
does is everybody, who is in the castle, at that particular
01:11:48
moment, they are locked into the castle Ray.
01:11:50
Nice is confined to her room and all of the servants who are
01:11:54
aware of the cerasus death. They are taken to the Dungeons
01:11:59
and they are, you know, sat in there.
01:12:01
Like I said, earlier the Lord's and the ladies of the prominent
01:12:06
houses are brought to the throne room and basically told Okay.
01:12:09
Hey, the series changed his mind right before he died.
01:12:12
So now instead of bowing to, you know, pledging your loyalty to
01:12:17
re nearer, we need you to do that for egg on.
01:12:19
And oh, by the way, if you don't do that for egg on, you can't
01:12:22
leave this Castle. You will go sit in the dungeons
01:12:24
as well. So you have a couple of people
01:12:27
who are steadfast about. Okay, no, I pledge to Rainier
01:12:31
and that's who I'm going to say stick with.
01:12:34
And they get sent to the dungeons now.
01:12:36
Lord Lord. Is it cars?
01:12:39
Well, a cast. Well, Lord has worked as mother.
01:12:42
He's looking very uneasy during all of this.
01:12:47
But once he sees someone of the Lord's being taken to the
01:12:50
dungeon or the lady of, I forgot what house she was in, is it
01:12:56
fail? Yes, I think that was.
01:13:01
So she's taken to the dungeon because she refuses to change
01:13:04
her loyalty and so at that point he decides to bend the knee like
01:13:09
he's, you know, pledge fealty to hang on.
01:13:12
And then later on in the episode we see him sitting on his horse
01:13:16
at the gates and they're about to open the gates and then all
01:13:19
of a sudden he is called, he's brought back before Otto and
01:13:23
lore lares is telling him. Yeah, he was getting ready to
01:13:25
leave the castle. I think he was going to work.
01:13:27
I'm princess rhaenyra and he tries to play it off.
01:13:30
He was like yeah he doesn't know what he's talking about.
01:13:32
I had no love for renier and Otto was like well where were
01:13:36
you going? So suddenly and he can't answer.
01:13:39
So I do is like yeah. Lithium the king's Justice have
01:13:43
them. And so when rhaenyra is still in
01:13:49
her room, Sir, Eric comes to get Sir, Eric comes to get her and
01:13:54
he was like come with me princess.
01:13:56
I cannot let this The span. So I was like, okay so he's
01:13:59
clearly chosen a side. He's about to help rain rain
01:14:02
East. I see it right near Great nice.
01:14:05
He's about to help Randy to get out and they go out into the
01:14:10
City and while they're passing through the courtyard in the
01:14:14
castle, she sees, Lord Caswell, he's been hung.
01:14:18
So it's kind to that point now where it's like, okay, yeah.
01:14:21
So the high towers are basically saying you either serve aegon or
01:14:27
you die. Why?
01:14:29
So I was like, yeah, it is buy me some shit.
01:14:33
This might be some shit. And they escape into the City
01:14:40
and as they're trying to get out you know Ray nice wants to go
01:14:44
back and get her Dragon. Yeah.
01:14:45
She's I can't leave them Elise. I can't believe my lease.
01:14:48
I will not leave Middle East. And you know, Eric tells her you
01:14:52
can't go to the dragon pit. That's they'll be expecting you
01:14:55
there. What he fell to tell her was
01:14:58
they will be expecting her there because that's where they're
01:15:01
doing the fucking coronation for egg.
01:15:05
On the Because you wanted to be in front of thousands, all of
01:15:10
King's Landing, everybody needs to see him crown so that they
01:15:16
know that he is the one true king and this coronation was so
01:15:20
funny because you have them basically hurting all of the
01:15:25
people into the dragon pit and everybody's sitting there and of
01:15:30
course, I do highest high tower. He makes the announcement that
01:15:34
the king is dead. You know, but he left.
01:15:37
Hold on, hold on. Wait, what?
01:15:39
I realized. I was like, why are they doing
01:15:41
this? Why are we rounding people up
01:15:43
like cattle to give him? Are like, they're literally
01:15:47
whipping people and trying to give and I realized they never
01:15:52
announced that there was going to be a coordination.
01:15:55
They never announce the King was dead.
01:15:57
So people like, what are we doing?
01:15:59
Like, they just rounding everybody up.
01:16:01
They have no idea. No clue what the hell is going
01:16:04
on, right? Because there's You be more
01:16:06
popping circumstance, and getting prepared for a
01:16:10
coronation. Everyone knows about the
01:16:12
coordination, everyone's excited about the coordination.
01:16:16
But, no, it's literally takes place less than 48 hours after
01:16:20
viserys is death, right? That's the way it appears in the
01:16:23
show. So you know, yeah, nobody knows
01:16:29
that he's dead because I think also what's supposed to happen
01:16:32
when the King dies, they're supposed to told the bills and
01:16:36
they didn't do that. So nobody knows that the king
01:16:40
is. They're all the people who do
01:16:42
know that the king is dead are locked in the dungeon at the red
01:16:48
keep right now. So nobody knows, nobody has
01:16:51
denounced it and also I think they I wanted to make sure that
01:16:56
everybody was in there so that once the word gets out, they can
01:16:59
kind of control people instead of, you know, it, you know,
01:17:03
people going out saying something.
01:17:05
Oh, no rhaenyra supposed to be the queen, or they're trying to
01:17:09
make. They're trying to force the
01:17:11
issue basically. Like oh yeah, this is going to
01:17:13
be your king and then, you know, you know they're looking out in
01:17:16
the crowd like okay. So who's not clapping, who's not
01:17:19
there looking for that kind of thing.
01:17:21
And it's so funny because even when they start announcing this
01:17:24
stuff and when they say the king is dead, people are just kind of
01:17:27
looking confused like huh and then they mentioned that egg on
01:17:31
is going to be king. You have some people who like
01:17:35
And then you hear a clap and then you start hearing everybody
01:17:39
clapping in. Yeah, I'm like y'all.
01:17:42
People are so fickle, so fear. But the thing is, the thing is
01:17:46
like, with the aristocracy doesn't realize is that the
01:17:49
peons for the most part, whoever is at the top, didn't change
01:17:53
this situation, not at all, it doesn't really change their
01:17:58
situation. They don't they really could
01:18:00
care less, you know who bikini is?
01:18:02
They make fun of it. King or queen or whatever.
01:18:05
But for the most part whoever's win the crown, it doesn't change
01:18:10
that. I'm still in this shitty hell
01:18:11
hole right down here, flea bottom, right?
01:18:16
You didn't change anything. Right, so yeah, that's my two
01:18:21
cents. I forgot where I saw that.
01:18:23
I think I saw that in in maybe Monty Python and the Holy Grail
01:18:31
because, you know, those guys that was faint.
01:18:33
But I think there's He made with it.
01:18:34
Like, it doesn't really matter who whose Kink right?
01:18:38
It doesn't change what's happening here.
01:18:41
Right? And then, honestly, this how
01:18:44
people feel today in the politics, now some people didn't
01:18:48
feel like, whoever's prison didn't change what's going on in
01:18:52
their lives. And that's why a lot of people
01:18:54
don't vote. Even though, you know, even
01:18:56
though we see that, that is very much, not true, not true.
01:19:00
And I'm here to tell you, you better get out there and vote
01:19:02
because It does matter because at the top very much and that's
01:19:08
the only you may not feel that we mean that seem that way, but
01:19:11
it does matter, it does. But anyway, before we, because
01:19:17
I'm watching in the background, in this scene, just came up.
01:19:20
So before we continue on with the coronation, we got to talk
01:19:24
about this thing with Lord Laris and the Queen.
01:19:29
So we we finally figured out what his deal is he subscribes
01:19:35
to her only fan page for the food pig feet pictures.
01:19:40
And okay. Save that new only fancies.
01:19:43
I really don't I just I just read about it so he is a bay to.
01:19:48
So everybody has been making the jokes about the foot fetishes so
01:19:51
I don't know if you have a foot fetish that's on you good great.
01:19:56
I think the thing that kind of got me about the way it was
01:20:00
presented in the show is that. So basically Lord Laris comes to
01:20:08
the Queen's room and we've Already said something about the
01:20:11
fact that he spends a lot of his time in the Queen's rooms even
01:20:14
Auto mentions it. If even I don't say something
01:20:17
about. It was like, yeah, you've been
01:20:18
spending a lot of time with the queen as of late.
01:20:21
And, you know, Larry says, there's no reason that that can
01:20:25
benefit you as well. And I was like, what is he
01:20:28
talking about? I think he's idea, benefit and
01:20:31
Idols idea benefit of two different things so different,
01:20:34
so different. So he goes into the Queen's room
01:20:37
and the queen, when she hears him She has this look like,
01:20:42
she's like the hours late. Lord, Larry.
01:20:44
So he was like, yeah, but I think you're gonna want to hear
01:20:46
what I have to say. And she just has this look of
01:20:49
defeat on her face and this again comes after this
01:20:53
conversation. She has had with rainy's.
01:20:55
So then again, you're looking at, oh, here's another man who
01:20:59
is just using her to get what he wants.
01:21:02
So she says down And he was like, I think you may want to
01:21:08
hear what I have to say, he looks at her pointedly, she says
01:21:13
down, she takes off her shoes and she puts her feet up on the
01:21:17
table. And at first, I was like, why is
01:21:19
she doing that? And then I looked at the look on
01:21:22
his face when he was talking to her.
01:21:26
So, you know how they say, you know, how it is sometimes, when
01:21:29
men are talking to women with big boobs, they sit there,
01:21:32
looking the women are like, uh, scuse me, my face is up here,
01:21:35
not down there. R.
01:21:36
That that's how I felt this whole scene, this whole scene
01:21:39
because he sitting there telling her about the White Worm.
01:21:42
He was like, you know, there are certain things that are in
01:21:44
place, certain certain lines of communication that are in place
01:21:48
throughout the city that, you know, kind of give information
01:21:54
to people who shouldn't have information.
01:21:57
And it's got my people who shouldn't have that information,
01:22:00
you know, he starts talking about the spiders, within the
01:22:02
walls and that sort of thing, and all the time.
01:22:05
He's Look at all the time, he's talking he's just looking at her
01:22:08
feet in this most interesting way and she's just sitting there
01:22:12
so defeated. She was like, so you're trying
01:22:13
to tell me some of these spiders are in the walls and he was
01:22:16
like, well, And doesn't say anything she looks, she rolls
01:22:21
her eyes and she takes the stockings are so now her bare
01:22:24
feet are there and you can see him get a little more animated
01:22:27
with his talking. He tells her.
01:22:29
Yeah, your handmaiden is one of these pies and she was like, oh
01:22:32
Talia. Yeah.
01:22:33
About a tada. So he's telling her all this
01:22:36
information while he's looking at her feet and then he makes
01:22:42
mention that he can get rid of this kind of, you know, a thing.
01:22:47
That's what she wants and she was like, oh is this?
01:22:49
I take it. This is your area of expertise
01:22:52
and he was like if you want it if you say it, it's done.
01:22:58
And she just looks at him. Now, this is after the
01:23:00
conversation, she just had where she was fussing at her father
01:23:04
about not, you know, not wanting to kill not being a weakness,
01:23:08
you know, because he was like, yeah.
01:23:11
So yeah, we can kill Renee era and fix all this stuff.
01:23:15
And she's like, look just because I don't want to do this.
01:23:16
That doesn't mean I'm weak. So when he says that she just
01:23:21
kind of looks to him, she turns around she pulls her dress up a
01:23:26
little bit more so he see her. Wolfie her ankles, and she turns
01:23:30
her head, and he reaches his hand up under his clothes, and
01:23:34
he starts jacking off. And I was just like, I, it was
01:23:40
just one of those things where it's like, after hearing what
01:23:43
Ray nice just said to her about living.
01:23:46
In this little prison, where she still Doing things at the whim
01:23:52
of the men in her life. I felt so sorry for her right,
01:23:56
right, man. Because I was like, yeah, I bet
01:23:57
you at this moment, if she could leave and just go somewhere and
01:24:01
just take her kids and just get the fuck off.
01:24:02
She probably wouldn't have at that point.
01:24:04
Like, you have had to go so low as to be basically a foot
01:24:07
prostitute for this man, because he is the person who you have
01:24:14
been confiding in and he has done things in your name.
01:24:20
To make sure things stay the way they are.
01:24:23
And I was just like, so, so first, first of all, for the
01:24:28
record. We do not have any issues with
01:24:32
anyone and beer, Jinx. We found that, like I said, that
01:24:36
already beer. We are fine with it.
01:24:40
I was just a little surprised, you know, I was eating, I was
01:24:44
just taking it back. I wasn't prepared for it but you
01:24:47
know, it's cool. Only thing I want to know is how
01:24:50
do you hold on? How did that first conversation
01:24:53
go like, how did he first approached her?
01:24:56
Like, you know, that would be what's your you?
01:25:00
I will tell you how probably you remember after he killed his
01:25:04
father and his brother something about, oh I'm sure you'll think
01:25:09
of some way to thank me. He probably brought that up and
01:25:14
it's probably been going on. Just that long.
01:25:17
Take your shoes off for me, right?
01:25:20
And how it starts, I read a comment somewhere else that
01:25:24
says, he probably has that foot fetish, because of his own
01:25:28
defect, his disability, having the clubfoot.
01:25:31
And you know, right before that saying started, when he was
01:25:35
walking towards the couch, they made a point of pointing the
01:25:39
camera at his clubfoot. So I think it has something to
01:25:43
do with that. Like she I know and and I sort
01:25:47
of have an issue with it because not all kinks are birth in a
01:25:50
person's own issues, right? So I don't want to offend anyone
01:25:59
but that was the one thing that about the situation that kind of
01:26:03
bothered me like there's not always the case, and I wouldn't
01:26:08
want people watching you to think that, oh, he likes to be,
01:26:13
he likes to choke girls because he was choked when he was
01:26:16
little. That's not really a true.
01:26:18
Yeah, they like to bite because they were bidden worth.
01:26:22
No, that's not necessarily true. I understand why they did it at
01:26:30
this. It was an interesting choice,
01:26:32
right? Yeah, you can but it was is one
01:26:37
of those things where I feel like I said, I feel like he
01:26:40
started that probably way back then when he killed his father
01:26:45
and his brother and even though it's on it's probably been what
01:26:48
at this point. I think maybe 10 years but still
01:26:52
if he's been doing that for that long.
01:26:58
I just, it's interesting. Transaction is an interesting
01:27:02
transaction because I thought he was in there for for power, he's
01:27:07
not. Yeah, he's just a name that
01:27:10
power in that way different. It's a different kind of thing.
01:27:14
Yeah, it's very manipulative and it's very controlling very
01:27:19
misogynist. I mean, he's basically, he's, he
01:27:22
has power over the queen in that way like the fact that whatever
01:27:27
it It is is reduced her to adolescent fantasy.
01:27:34
Yeah, you know. Yeah and this is the queen of
01:27:38
the Seven Kingdoms. Yeah.
01:27:40
And the fact that whatever it is that he has done, Or whatever
01:27:44
information he is giving her. She feels like she has to do it
01:27:49
but there's like you just lost your husband.
01:27:54
You just had to go through this drama, trying to find your son.
01:27:59
You just had this big argument with your father about the right
01:28:03
way, to install egg on his King. You don't want to deal with
01:28:07
that, kind of drama that, right, then?
01:28:10
And the fact that she felt like she couldn't tell him.
01:28:13
No. You know, even though I have
01:28:17
some information, you may want, okay.
01:28:19
Can you tell me tomorrow when I'm not grieving my husband, can
01:28:22
we not do this tonight? Yeah.
01:28:24
Why we have to do this right now, right?
01:28:26
Like right. But enough respect for her to
01:28:29
give her that kind of space to say, okay.
01:28:31
You know what, I'm gonna leave her alone or he could, he could
01:28:34
have easily just been like hey you might want to check your
01:28:37
girl. He kind of giving her that
01:28:40
advice for free, which of course, I know this is Game of
01:28:43
Thrones in the kind of character hit that he is.
01:28:45
He does nothing for free. That would be like, asking
01:28:47
little finger to give information and not expect
01:28:51
something in return. So I get that.
01:28:53
And the fact that I just made that comparison and we've called
01:28:57
him little finger at some point in the season, it it fits little
01:29:02
fat. Yeah.
01:29:04
It fits though, because he's playing the same type of game.
01:29:09
He's doing the same thing that Littlefinger did was sign sir
01:29:13
taking advantage of someone who is in a position where they
01:29:17
don't have other people around them.
01:29:19
Like think about it, Alison really is all alone because and
01:29:23
she sent this, even when they were younger, once she became
01:29:27
between, she has no friends. She has no one around her.
01:29:31
The one person who was closest to her, that she was trying to
01:29:34
fix that relationship, that person is now going to be lost
01:29:37
to her forever because of the things that hurt.
01:29:39
Father, and his people are doing.
01:29:41
Nobody has her best interest at heart.
01:29:44
Nobody gives a fuck about Allison.
01:29:46
All they care about is putting egg on on the, on the throne,
01:29:50
making him king. That's all they care about.
01:29:52
They don't care about her. So the fact that she feels like
01:29:56
this is her only Avenue of getting information, or of
01:30:01
having some kind of companionship.
01:30:05
I do feel for her, I do feel for her and it, and I'm kind of, I
01:30:12
kind of like the fact that they put her in this position of
01:30:18
vulnerability. Not necessary that in the whole
01:30:21
look Lord, Larry sense, but I mean just the fact that we see
01:30:27
that all of this stuff that's happening now is not what she
01:30:30
wanted. This was not the route she
01:30:32
wanted to take and you seen those glimpses throughout the
01:30:36
whole season of her wanting to be like, okay?
01:30:40
But no, I support. Bernie ra.
01:30:42
Okay. The Sarah says, she's going to
01:30:44
be the queen. She's gonna be the queen.
01:30:46
Let her be the queen, as long as we don't threaten her.
01:30:50
She'll leave me in mind alone, and I think she really felt that
01:30:53
up until her dad got it. Ear and then she became paranoid
01:30:57
and then things just kind of spiraled from out of there.
01:31:00
So it's kind of like the men of her life as much as she is.
01:31:05
Tried to protect them as much as she is.
01:31:07
Tried to serve them. They really have put her in this
01:31:11
bad position which I mean for most of us who are a little bit
01:31:18
knowledgeable about Game of Thrones of History.
01:31:20
We know this is not going to end well, for her side of the
01:31:22
family. Actually, it's not going to End
01:31:24
well for either side of the family.
01:31:26
But the fact that her father in his quest for power basically
01:31:33
started the downfall of this, this generation in this family,
01:31:38
you know, I just I feel really sorry for her.
01:31:43
Are the how time was an extinct family?
01:31:46
Be extinct? I don't think they are extinct.
01:31:52
Um, But I'm not sure, I don't think I know they don't have the
01:31:58
same authority to hear because the tyrells rule the reach.
01:32:07
Yeah. But the tyrells are descendants
01:32:09
of the high Towers. They are hmm.
01:32:16
But um, Yeah, I just, I don't know.
01:32:23
I feel sorry for her and what she's about to endure, but going
01:32:28
back to the coronation now. So yeah.
01:32:33
Hey, God is about to be crowned King.
01:32:36
He comes into the, he comes into the dragon pit, and of course,
01:32:40
they're saluting him and everything.
01:32:41
Now, he he cleans out pretty well.
01:32:43
I will give him that but still you can tell he's just kind of
01:32:46
looking around, like, Like, it's almost like he's expecting
01:32:49
Ashton Kutcher to come from behind somewhere saying that
01:32:52
he's been pumped because he's walking, he's walking through
01:32:56
there like he's still, not believing.
01:32:58
This is happening up until he gets to the stage.
01:33:01
And in the midst of this Ray, nice is in the crowd and she's
01:33:06
kind of witnessing what's happening because she has her
01:33:09
Eric have been ushered into the dragon pit along with everybody
01:33:13
else. It's a nice way for me.
01:33:17
Old have been Corral, they have been heard and they have been
01:33:20
ushered into the dragon pit with everyone else and in the midst
01:33:23
of all the chaos they've gotten separated.
01:33:27
So she still hiding because no one knows, she's escaped the
01:33:29
castle. Hey, guy goes up to the stage.
01:33:34
Otto is making his announcement, you know, is your good fortune
01:33:37
and privilege to be here, to witness this, you know, new day
01:33:40
for our city blah, blah blah and egg on comes up to the stage.
01:33:45
And there's one Really interesting thing I noticed and
01:33:49
I watched this three times just to make sure I wasn't imagining
01:33:52
it. So over on the side you have
01:33:55
Amon and you have Helena and they're looking at agon as he's
01:34:01
coming up the stairs. As, you know, all this Pomp and
01:34:04
Circumstance is going on. And when he kneels down and Sir,
01:34:12
criston Cole is getting ready to crown him.
01:34:17
They're all looking at him the moment, the crown touches his
01:34:22
head Helena looks away from him and she does not look at him
01:34:28
again, until he stands up. And he starts looking at
01:34:30
everybody, waiting for them to acknowledge Him as king.
01:34:33
She looks at him for a brief moment.
01:34:35
She nods her head, she turns her head back away.
01:34:37
She does not look at him the entire time, the, from the
01:34:43
moment, the crowd touches his head.
01:34:45
Now I don't know if that's significant but it was very,
01:34:48
very noticeable to me. Like, even in the background.
01:34:52
Now, I'm looking, she's looking at him very, very intently.
01:34:55
While the priest is putting the holy water on his head.
01:34:59
And then, as soon as the crowd touches his hair, she turns and
01:35:04
she doesn't look at him again until he stands up.
01:35:07
She turns her head, she curtsy, she does that little bitty
01:35:10
curtsy to acknowledge Him as king and she turns her head
01:35:13
again and she does not look at him and she does not look for it
01:35:17
again, until the beach from beneath the board's comes out.
01:35:22
Because during all of this Ray, nice has looked around.
01:35:26
She's like, oh, I'm in the dragon pit.
01:35:27
Yeah, let me sneak my way, on this way.
01:35:31
She goes downstairs for her. If Ike how fortunate this lucky.
01:35:39
This is where I wanted to go in the first place.
01:35:42
Yeah. Because it was a moment in the
01:35:44
street when she realized that she was being herded towards
01:35:47
towards the Tipsy smile. She's and she's like, oh, okay.
01:35:51
Yeah. But yeah, so when he when he is
01:35:55
crowned and everybody kind of acknowledges him I can't a skein
01:35:59
and the other funny thing is during this whole time, you
01:36:02
know, when I said that Helena's, looking at him.
01:36:05
Amen is not looking at him so it's like they're standing next
01:36:09
to each other Helena's. Looking towards egg on a man is
01:36:12
looking towards the opposite direction.
01:36:15
And then once the crown hits his head, their gazes do this Helena
01:36:21
looks off to the side. Aiming stairs directly at his
01:36:25
brother and it remains that way for the rest of the, you know,
01:36:30
the time. So I was like, okay, I don't
01:36:34
know if that's going to be significant or not, but it was
01:36:37
just very, very obvious to me. So anyway, they got two turns
01:36:44
around. The crowd starts cheering.
01:36:48
He takes the sword. He throws it in the air, you
01:36:53
know, with his arm like yeah, yeah, everybody's cheering.
01:36:56
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, boom. You have a huge explosion as
01:37:04
rhaenyra and male, he's come from up under the floor.
01:37:10
And when I say, when she came out of that floor, and then you
01:37:16
close in on her. She's, I mean, she took the time
01:37:19
to put her armor on, she was in full.
01:37:23
She was a fool. I had a small farmer and she
01:37:29
turns you know, the dragon is sitting there.
01:37:31
He's kind of, you know, it's a couple of people dead in King's
01:37:34
Landing today. The phrase he probably kids is
01:37:39
left. Just like I'm sure there's
01:37:40
another exit, she is left that. Now she wants to make a
01:37:44
statement, she had to make a statement because again earlier
01:37:48
in the episode, you know, Alison went to rain.
01:37:50
He's basically saying, yeah, I want your support and she tried
01:37:55
to use this whole thing. Oh yeah, you should have been
01:37:57
Queen and all this other stuff and I think at that point
01:38:00
Randy's was like, okay, you know what, let's just gone ahead and
01:38:04
make this clear. So when Male Easterns towards
01:38:09
the stage. Allison tells her Kristen to get
01:38:14
hellena out of there and she stands in front of aegon because
01:38:17
she's fully expecting dragon fire at this point meili's
01:38:22
inhales. And let's go and all it is.
01:38:27
Is this huge huge, huge screen and they rain are just kind of,
01:38:33
I mean, r and he's just kind of looks at them.
01:38:36
She turns around and they take off.
01:38:39
And Alison. Has this look on her face like
01:38:42
oh fuck. Because you know she bout to go.
01:38:46
Run tell that straight to rhaenyra.
01:38:51
But I know there were people who were pissed off.
01:38:54
They were like Ray nice. Could have ended this whole
01:38:57
thing right there. She could have burned them all
01:39:01
to a crisp and everything would have been gravy.
01:39:05
And I just, I disagree with that so much.
01:39:08
I actually agree with the way that she handled it.
01:39:11
One because this is not her fight.
01:39:16
They didn't usurp her throne. They usurped writing errors and
01:39:20
you know at this point she kind of sorted doesn't like right now
01:39:25
because she feels like reindeer ahead or something here so she
01:39:27
can marry Damon. So Where is that?
01:39:33
But at the same time to I feel like, I feel like that was just
01:39:38
a big fuck you to Allison like yeah.
01:39:41
You talking about women having power.
01:39:42
This is what the power is. I have the, I literally hold the
01:39:45
power of your life in my hands right now, and I just gave you
01:39:49
Grace and I will also like to paint in addition, because I
01:39:54
don't disagree with you that maybe for a moment.
01:39:59
See you thought about having lost her children?
01:40:01
Hmm. And was like you know maybe I'm
01:40:04
not gonna do this to Alison. Yeah it might be part of it too.
01:40:08
I mean it wasn't anything a living dead too so it well the
01:40:13
idea. Yeah.
01:40:15
Yeah. Yeah.
01:40:17
And I agree with that as well but I really think it was more
01:40:21
so. Oh yeah.
01:40:24
Yeah yeah. It was really liked her place.
01:40:27
Yeah, it wasn't her. Place is not her battle and then
01:40:31
at the same time I feel like that was her basically telling
01:40:34
Alison get your shit together because now Rainier is about to
01:40:39
find out everything that you did here today.
01:40:42
I mean, think about it at this point, rhaenyra does not even
01:40:46
know her father is dead, right? She doesn't know.
01:40:50
And that's my only is her father.
01:40:52
Did y'all just had a coronation for the crown that was supposed
01:40:56
to go to her? After y'all just basically like
01:41:03
I said, left things on a good note.
01:41:06
So you know, what's right near here is what's about to happen.
01:41:11
She's gonna be pissed because she's going to feel like Alison
01:41:14
was lying to her the Alex. It was being fake because the
01:41:18
last thing and it is all along last thing I'll talk about you.
01:41:22
Like, you know, I'm gonna come back and we're gonna, you know,
01:41:26
we're gonna hang out and things going to be having used to be,
01:41:29
there was less. As conversation y'all had, you
01:41:32
know, yeah, I'll come back. I'll come back and spend some
01:41:36
time with you and Dad and then Dad dies the same night.
01:41:44
So she's going to think all the way back to that dinner.
01:41:47
When you said you know you'll make a great Queen to make a
01:41:52
great Queen. Your ass was lying.
01:41:55
Yeah. You had this plan from the
01:41:58
get-go, it's how Ramirez. If you this how I will feel
01:42:02
right, you stabbed your name in Gold because then we don't like
01:42:07
Alison anyway, right? But you wait until I left the
01:42:10
island? You wait until I left for
01:42:12
Dragonstone and you put your plans in or in place just that
01:42:17
quick. Yep.
01:42:19
That's because that's what it looks like right now and it's
01:42:22
about it right now. These doesn't know the details
01:42:25
of what happened because y'all locked her in her room.
01:42:28
So as far as she knows, Knows Alison was behind all of that
01:42:32
because Alison, was the one who came to speak to her was like, I
01:42:35
really want your support. Hmm.
01:42:39
And then butter and I know, you know, I love my husband but you
01:42:42
should have been Queen. Yeah, now other way.
01:42:46
Stupid, I do with that. I don't think I would have gone
01:42:49
as far as a kill or they would have just left her locked in
01:42:54
that room. I don't think they would have
01:42:56
killed her. I think Otto probably would have
01:42:59
if she if she didn't bend the knee.
01:43:00
I think about what happened. Oh, then he would have had all
01:43:04
of drift marks coming down on him.
01:43:06
I'm at that point in. But at that point, you have to
01:43:08
remember, Laura, cordless is still in critical condition.
01:43:13
They still don't know if he's To make it or not, so this point,
01:43:17
but if you there, they vote that family there.
01:43:24
Enough people in their family, their who would not take kindly
01:43:27
to y'all killing stealing her for that reason.
01:43:32
I haven't done anything about Damon and Damon was actually
01:43:35
their blood rain. He's just married into the
01:43:37
family. Well, they knew was being an
01:43:39
asshole. Damon was being an asshole but
01:43:42
that still does not negate. The fact that he was killed and
01:43:46
yeah, I agree a little bit but then again his guards with me.
01:43:53
Like yeah. He ran his mouth a little bit
01:43:57
too much. Yeah.
01:43:58
You can leave like what happened?
01:44:00
What happened to me? They told him what happened been
01:44:02
like, oh yeah, yeah, he called demons.
01:44:06
Why he called he called The Heir Apparent they wouldn't let's be
01:44:13
honest. Even if they Add them if they
01:44:15
had killed her drift, Mark will not be able to really do
01:44:19
anything because at this point, now, if they have leadership and
01:44:23
not even that they don't have dragons met, Lisa is right there
01:44:26
in the red. Keep they don't have dragons.
01:44:30
They don't have Veigar. Well babies have see.
01:44:33
Smoke would be the only one to have, right?
01:44:36
But who's writing see smoke right now?
01:44:37
Nobody's rest, nobody's riding see smoke.
01:44:41
And I mean, Bela still has her Dragon, but what is her One
01:44:45
little dragon going to do against the first of all.
01:44:47
What is it going to do against Veigar vegard is the largest
01:44:50
dragon in the world. So you guys made okay because I
01:44:59
think uh I think vegard is the Yarns.
01:45:04
Look at this point. He was second only to balerion.
01:45:09
Yeah. So yeah, I mean even if she was
01:45:13
she was second only to blaring cos V Garner.
01:45:15
She yes, but yes, I think even at this point if they did Kill
01:45:20
rani's, there's not much Jeff. Mark is going to do now.
01:45:24
They may refrain from, you know, helping out the targaryens if
01:45:29
and when it comes to war, but if they kill rani's, where is drift
01:45:33
Mark? Drip are going straight to
01:45:35
rhaenyra. They're like, oh yeah, we don't
01:45:37
care that you kill laying or they killed Ray.
01:45:39
Nice. Yeah, we come.
01:45:41
Over here. What you finna do what we're
01:45:42
doing? But I guess we'll see if that's
01:45:47
going to happen anyway because we know Rainier.
01:45:51
Right? Nice is on her way to reindeer
01:45:53
right now. Yeah, she bout to run tail that
01:45:58
as Lori likes to say. So we only have one episode list
01:46:06
season finale and then we have to wait until probably twenty
01:46:10
twenty four before we get into new episodes.
01:46:12
I'm like, yeah, cuz I think they said it's not going to be 20:23.
01:46:16
Oh absolutely. I don't even think.
01:46:18
I think they're supposed to start filming in January and
01:46:22
Spain is what I read. Okay.
01:46:26
Yeah. So oh, so we're not at the dance
01:46:34
of dragons yet, we're about to get there because you never a
01:46:38
nice is not. I mean Rainier is not about to
01:46:40
take kindly to any of this. At all.
01:46:51
But you see what my screen name is.
01:46:54
Danny with a single wheel said it she would have she have you
01:47:00
trying to take my throat? Oh yeah, let me go on ahead and
01:47:03
just drag cars you right quick and just be done with this, the
01:47:05
Mann family, but your car's, your whole family and just be
01:47:08
done with this right quick. Yeah she would have.
01:47:10
But she would have done it, just for locking her up in the in the
01:47:14
room, just for liking the door. What have Danny did have
01:47:17
consistent? Just for that.
01:47:19
But I think the difference also to is Ray nice.
01:47:24
Grew up and has been around during the cerasus peaceful
01:47:29
Reign and you know if she would have done that that would have
01:47:33
been an act of war and she would have started it and I don't
01:47:36
think that's what rainey's wants know if it was a personal slight
01:47:41
to her in that sense she would have but she didn't even start.
01:47:45
Well, I won't even say she didn't start war with rhaenyra
01:47:48
after laying or die. Because technically speaking,
01:47:52
they're still family. And she was also alive during a
01:47:58
lot of jaehaerys is rain, right? No.
01:48:02
She knows where piece looks like and how conflicts get resolved
01:48:07
without War. So maybe to her, there might
01:48:10
have been a way to resolve this conflict without War but she
01:48:13
wasn't going to start the war, right?
01:48:17
And again, it's right near us. It's right near his decision on
01:48:21
how she wants to handle this because she's the one.
01:48:23
Who's been slighted? Yeah, you know she literally has
01:48:27
had her Birthright stolen from her.
01:48:30
As decreed by her father became. So it's going to be interesting
01:48:36
seeing how this, you know, pans out.
01:48:41
So um, you have any final thoughts on this episode?
01:48:46
I really don't again, people can have mental health issues and
01:48:53
still be okay. Thanks are perfectly fine.
01:48:59
There's nothing wrong with them. Oh, we did, we did forget one
01:49:02
thing, so yeah. Apparently sir, Lord, Larry sent
01:49:07
someone to go. Burn down the white worms house
01:49:12
and I don't know if she was in there, I doubt it but I doubt it
01:49:16
because if her network is as good as is his proclaimed to be.
01:49:20
She knew it was coming. Uh-huh, she probably knew what
01:49:24
was coming as soon as she meant? Well, I do Hightower.
01:49:26
Yeah, like she like she wasn't seriously liris.
01:49:30
You don't think that she would know where you're up to, but I
01:49:35
also kind of Wonder, you know, now that I think about it.
01:49:38
I'm I'm wondering if lares was the one who sent the person, or
01:49:42
maybe was it auto because I want your big head.
01:49:46
I think was okay, because I was going to say, I do.
01:49:49
Did not look too pleased to have someone like that.
01:49:54
Put one over on him, you know, because she was basically like
01:50:00
she say, yeah, I found him in flea bottom and I took him
01:50:02
somewhere safe because I felt like somebody could hurt him.
01:50:05
She was like, but please, no, I understand.
01:50:07
I could have killed him at any time.
01:50:09
And when you go through your game and you put him on the
01:50:11
throne, you remember that? I was responsible for that.
01:50:14
I don't think I don't like that true, but I'll do is also have
01:50:18
used her network in the past. He's benefited from it in the
01:50:22
past. So he's he's Savvy enough to
01:50:27
know where she was really saying, she really was the
01:50:30
saying, I want to make sure that flea bottom is fine.
01:50:35
You don't see like he knows it, he probably wasn't really
01:50:38
malicious. Just because if she was going to
01:50:40
kill him, she the killed him. Mmm, yummy.
01:50:43
He knows the empty pair. She wasn't gonna kill him.
01:50:46
Yeah, because well, that's why is the her here?
01:50:50
This payer and be done with it. Yeah, so he's yeah.
01:50:55
He but Laris, he would have done it because the queen would have
01:51:01
shown him her ankles. Yeah, I mean I would I mean he
01:51:05
probably would have done it without that.
01:51:06
I mean, this is the same dude who killed his father Sir and
01:51:09
his brother. Yeah.
01:51:10
But remember she said, she learned that she has to be clear
01:51:13
and concise in which he desires. Could you don't want delete him
01:51:20
to leave it open to interpretation.
01:51:22
Mmm. Yep.
01:51:24
That's true. The other thing, did you notice
01:51:26
that the person walking away from the fire had an eye patch?
01:51:32
No, I didn't notice that. I think he had an eyepatch.
01:51:35
I look three times and I was like that's an eye patch under
01:51:38
there. I don't know if it was aiming
01:51:39
but there is a knife there is I think there's a definite iPad
01:51:42
from under that hood laughter. Look at that again.
01:51:46
So which I think is interesting because if that's the case met,
01:51:50
that just negates my whole argument supporting Amon, if
01:51:56
that's the case. But I don't know if I think it
01:51:58
was him, or if it was somebody else.
01:52:01
I do know that there are some Some other. assassins that we
01:52:06
would learn about probably in season 2 but I can't remember if
01:52:09
one of them had an eye patch, so I don't know, but it's about to
01:52:17
be 0. I'm just I'm preparing for
01:52:25
Rainier is wrath and probably Damon's to, I was going to see.
01:52:30
I'm preparing for Damon's wrath. It's gonna be yeah.
01:52:35
Cuz he loves his brother. Yes, he does.
01:52:38
You and, and to know that he died, and you didn't tell him.
01:52:45
Yeah. But his brother was dead.
01:52:46
That's gonna be that's gonna hurt him more than anything.
01:52:49
Yeah, it's going to hurt him a lot.
01:52:53
Especially it was like right after he left because he could
01:52:57
have come back. And after they had kind of, I
01:53:03
won't say patch things up but things were not as tense as they
01:53:07
had been. I think, I think of that moment
01:53:10
where he helped viserys up the stairs and gave him his crown.
01:53:14
I think there was a little bit of forgiveness on both of their
01:53:17
parts in that moment, and a little bit of a healing between
01:53:21
them, but to know, now that that will never that Rift will never
01:53:26
be healed. 100%. That's I have a feeling that's
01:53:32
going to that's going to do something to Damon, psyche,
01:53:35
that's gonna be hard to control. Hmm.
01:53:40
And I still believe him and a man are on a collision course
01:53:44
for disaster. They just are.
01:53:47
Yeah, me, there are two sides of the same coin.
01:53:52
They are destined for our I think Amon is a little bit more
01:53:56
controlled than Damon and And in a lot of ways because Damon he
01:54:01
sees stuff like, they mean, this is the person who you know, your
01:54:05
brother said he was sending some ships to help you and you go and
01:54:09
kill like a whole Army because you don't want his help, you
01:54:13
know. Um, so yeah, this is the person
01:54:18
who went and started, you know, started the whole war in the
01:54:21
stepstones because he was like, okay, you're not doing nothing.
01:54:24
Yeah. I'm gonna go out here.
01:54:25
You got, you don't want to make me.
01:54:27
Are you going to take that away from me?
01:54:28
Yeah, I'm a guy here. And kill something.
01:54:30
So yeah, I think you're right. They are on a collision course.
01:54:35
They are two sides of the same coin and that is I don't know if
01:54:41
I don't think we'll get that in this season.
01:54:44
I think at this point especially since they focused on the height
01:54:48
H and that side of the story as far as viserys death and what it
01:54:54
means, I think the next episode they probably will focus on
01:54:57
rhaenyra and How she responds to all of this because the title of
01:55:02
episode is the black queen, right?
01:55:04
This episode was the green Council side.
01:55:08
Well, I'm sure the next episode is going to be from beer, from
01:55:12
the black perspective and then I don't think we're gonna get any
01:55:18
war or any real fighting in this one.
01:55:20
Next episode, we may get a little bit, I don't think so.
01:55:26
But I think all of that we live stuff.
01:55:28
I think all of that. That big stuff is going to
01:55:30
happen. Probably in the second season, I
01:55:33
did read that they will not be doing any more time Jump.
01:55:36
So we are done with the time jumps and I'll tells me that the
01:55:42
dance is still not going to start.
01:55:44
They mean, I was starting next season if you're not gonna do
01:55:47
any time jumps, if I'm if I'm remembering correctly.
01:55:51
Visit a lot of things that have to happen first.
01:55:54
Yeah, people got you. Yeah there's some things going
01:55:57
to happen first and I can see them being able to stretch that
01:56:00
stuff out. Yeah.
01:56:04
I don't think. I don't think they'll stretch it
01:56:09
the full season because we know that the dance of dragons is
01:56:14
happening, we got to have some dragons fighting.
01:56:16
So that's got to come and season 2.
01:56:18
You can't go the whole season and not give us that.
01:56:21
So, I would say maybe about halfway through the season
01:56:25
before the really, really big stuff starts happening as far as
01:56:29
the dragons. But again, I don't know how long
01:56:32
they're planning on doing this show.
01:56:35
Like, I don't know how many seasons I know I heard.
01:56:37
Heard a rumor of four or five seasons.
01:56:40
I'm going to be honest. I don't know if I don't know if
01:56:45
I want it to last that long, write it down, we're not gonna
01:56:50
get our first real dragon battle until the season finale of
01:56:57
season 2. And I mean I even start I think
01:57:01
you're going to see a lot of dragons because there's a lot of
01:57:06
dragons out there especially at Dragonstone.
01:57:09
They don't have Riders. Yeah.
01:57:12
See smoke. They don't have Riders we gotta
01:57:14
find riders for these people, right.
01:57:16
He's right. Yeah.
01:57:17
It's go. Re going to spend the whole
01:57:18
season, marshaling resources, you know, going to different
01:57:23
locations to give a different Bannerman on board and we'll buy
01:57:27
you another dragon soul. Going to see all these things
01:57:31
happening is going to take the whole season.
01:57:34
Yeah, you might be right. You might have to get to that
01:57:38
point because it's a lot of things.
01:57:39
A lot of stuff that had a lot up.
01:57:42
Yeah. For the dance actually happens.
01:57:45
So we may not even get any dragon battles, but I'll
01:57:49
promise. You will see a lot of dragons.
01:57:52
Because, like I said, those HBO, you fix.
01:57:56
They want to see dragons, able to see dragons, right?
01:58:00
It's all they care about the dragons in the targaryens right
01:58:03
after we going to get a lot of next season.
01:58:05
Yeah. Okay yeah.
01:58:07
Yeah, you might be right, you might be right because when you
01:58:11
started saying I was like wait there is a lot of shit.
01:58:15
That happens in between viserys is death.
01:58:19
And the dance, the actual dance. There's a lot of death that
01:58:25
happens in between that too. So I'm just like, we got houses,
01:58:30
it's going to switch sides. One or two times.
01:58:33
We got, we got all that stuff that you got your rules
01:58:36
together. Diamond, the kids, become the
01:58:38
Lord, and they teams remind me, a lot of stuff that's got to
01:58:42
happen. You're right, so?
01:58:44
Yeah, you might, you might be right, we may not start.
01:58:46
You can stretch it out, biggest, stretch it out.
01:58:49
Okay, I just don't want them. I don't mind them taking their
01:58:52
time to tell the story especially without the time
01:58:55
jumps. Because I really, they could
01:58:57
have they could have extended this season a little bit more,
01:59:00
like some of this stuff, they probably could have put in the
01:59:02
second season. I wouldn't have been mad.
01:59:04
I would have, I would have liked to see them develop some of the
01:59:08
characters more, especially the characters like You know, sir
01:59:15
heart was strong Lena, velario, you know, those two stories?
01:59:22
Like these two people were so important to the story in the
01:59:25
book and how many lions did Sir Harold hat during the whole
01:59:32
season? Not absolutely nothing from him
01:59:35
up until this this episode not enough.
01:59:38
Yeah, nothing. So Well, I don't know, I it's
01:59:44
almost as if the show started out as a proof of concept and it
01:59:49
being all of a sudden, the execs from born, our old crap, then
01:59:53
they had to put a show together. Yes.
01:59:56
This is, if that's what you feel like, okay?
01:59:59
Yeah, this is if I especially have to be the other show, got
02:00:02
scrapped. Yeah, and I heard rumors, I
02:00:07
heard rumors. That sea snake was on the ropes
02:00:10
to now, that's for lack of dragons.
02:00:15
I heard that it was on the ropes but then I saw something more
02:00:18
recently. This is that George r.r.
02:00:21
Martin has confirmed that they are moving forward with it, so I
02:00:24
don't know which one is true at this point.
02:00:27
I'm like I'm just going to wait until they say oh it's
02:00:29
confirmed. This is what we're doing.
02:00:31
We know that there are several Spin-off ideas out there.
02:00:36
I think the only one that we know that is happening so far is
02:00:41
the Jon Snow spin-off. Everything else right now is
02:00:45
just kind of on the table. So I'm not going to speculate
02:00:48
too much about those. I would love to see something
02:00:50
about the sea snake because, again, I feel like in this show,
02:00:55
like they made him one of the most important characters, one
02:00:58
of the most prominent characters of the show, but I still feel
02:01:02
like his family was on Back burner and then, you know, to go
02:01:06
through the whole thing of going through all of this drama
02:01:11
off-screen about making this prominent character, a person of
02:01:16
color and making his family, you know.
02:01:19
Black, you know, him being black brother, being black kids being
02:01:23
black and now pretty much all of them are dead.
02:01:26
It's like, what was the whole point in, you know, in the
02:01:30
representation if you were just going to kill them off.
02:01:32
So if they're going to To do a sea snake story spin-off.
02:01:37
I'm here for it, maybe we can get all of them back and we can
02:01:41
we can explore that story. Some more just a little bit.
02:01:44
But yeah, I I'm just going to wait and see what they say about
02:01:50
it. I'm not going to get my hopes up
02:01:51
because again, I kind of had my hopes up for the other spin-off
02:01:54
because my boy was in it and then they just kind of pulled
02:01:57
it. So, I was just kind of like,
02:01:59
okay, you know what? Now, just wait until I start
02:02:01
seeing trailers and now they LOL.
02:02:03
Ok. Then I started I was thinking of
02:02:06
see you know, the last the series that got cancelled with
02:02:11
the pilot was the lack of dragons and targaryens.
02:02:14
Yes. And so the only thing that might
02:02:18
be keeping see sneaking around is a potential of releases,
02:02:24
courtship will include a dragon so that that is going to be
02:02:31
probably the savior of that. Sure.
02:02:35
And they may even write it to the point where she might be.
02:02:38
Integral part of his dominance of the stepstones, like, having
02:02:44
a dragon on his side, okay. So, you know, I can see how it
02:02:50
might be on the roads because the guy that convinced them they
02:02:52
have, it is going to be a Targaryen and Dragons.
02:02:55
I think about okay? Yeah, yeah.
02:02:57
We might be down with that. Okay.
02:03:00
The only reason why John snows going along is because he's Jon
02:03:03
Snow. It's Jon Snow, so that's not on
02:03:08
the wildlings hopefully. So yeah, maybe maybe, maybe
02:03:12
there'll be a dragon, who knows? Maybe they'll actually explore
02:03:15
the fact that he's aegon Targaryen The Sixth.
02:03:18
Yeah, again maybe, maybe. Maybe we might see drogon come
02:03:24
back. You don't know, Joe got a little
02:03:26
bit pissed off. I don't know.
02:03:29
He might come looking for me. Yeah.
02:03:33
Then maybe find out where he took Danny's body, true.
02:03:39
I've heard rumors but you know as I've heard speculation
02:03:43
speculation. It's a good back to Old valyria.
02:03:46
Yeah whatever. Yeah.
02:03:48
And they are going to bring her back.
02:03:53
Yeah, so okay. Well we've seen people brought
02:03:57
back from death before. So yeah, death is just an
02:04:02
obstacle. So all right, well that is it
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