#feartwd #twduniverse It's a race against time as both Grace and Finch 's lives are in danger. Shrike makes it difficult for the group to reach the traincar. Finch's infection returns, which may not bode well for Grace. Morgan, Grace, and Mo disagree on the best path forward. June has to make a difficult choice. Mo takes matters into her own hands. Grace tells Mo how she saved her and Morgan's lives. Mo makes a promise she can't keep. Shrike gains the upper hand. Morgan's worst nightmares come true.
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What's the Pirates? Welcome back to another episode
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of The Phantom hybrid podcast. This is hanako and I'm here with
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Casey and we are talking about episode 5 of season, 8 of Fear,
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The Walking Dead, which is probably the worst episode this
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season just because Grace dies. And I'm so fucking pissed.
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Acting-wise it was a great episode, she ain't get only one
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pissed. Know, a lot of people are, you
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know what, I can't with you, I'm not I'm glad it's finally over.
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I'm the last David to the Finish Line.
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How do you combat that? Oh yes.
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In that sense. Yes.
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I understand that sentiment like you are tired of seeing this
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woman go through so much. I would have just like a little
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bit more time with her. I would have loved for Morgan to
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be able to be with her after he just got finished dealing.
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NG with the stuff from his past, he needed to deal with.
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I would have loved for motive been able to see with being
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around. Real parents is like instead of
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being raised by Padre I'm just like Yeah, I just had, you know,
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this Joan treatment, you know how, you know, you know how you
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knew it was over in the very beginning because when the show
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started, she had the little tie priest Montage with the faded
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faded. But clear background her looking
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up a tree. I said, I'll see my bad.
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It's the Montage now, you looking at reflected on your
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life girl, if you don't just pass away.
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He's fanned you. The Montage.
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Did it for me? I was like, I meant.
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Okay. Like I said, I look at the first
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two minutes. All you see is trees, and is
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going past the men to show, you know, how to eyes blink.
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So again, you re opening listen to me.
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She was sick. She couldn't.
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Okay. Okay.
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No, no. Okay.
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She probably could have been saved by Jews treatment.
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Had most thought digging around so you can eliminate your old.
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I'm sorry, little girl does not eight years old.
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The stuff that she was doing in this episode.
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Not to mention what we were talking about in the last
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episode in this episode. No, because you mean to tell me?
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Now she knows how to navigate through the river.
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She knows exactly where she is in order to get to where she
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needs to go to find this train car.
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The shrike his own. Ready.
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Said, she has moved Randall. Yeah, she's a little, the little
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Pompey thing for the train out of fucking skull but the little
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bumpy thing that to take up and she spent all that time.
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When like, Grace literally told you.
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This is what I want to do. I want to go to this to this
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station and and live with you and your dad for as long as I
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have and dada da and like even I'm Morgan when he was fighting
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her on at first, you know? He's so much.
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Oh, no, we can save you. We can save you, we can save
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you. And then once they realize that
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finches infection has come back, which means the treatment most
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likely does it work and Morgan is like, okay, you know what,
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we'll do what you want to do, you want to spend your last
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remaining time with us? Okay, we'll go ahead.
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Mo all of a sudden. No, I can't lose, you know, this
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will work. No, we're going to fight for
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what we want and that's why we're going to win.
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I was like little girl. Girl, if you don't sit your ass
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down. If you'll sit down.
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And let the grown folks, Grown Folk.
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Man they probably saved her. If shrike again had left him the
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fuck alone left nothing soldiers alone if Daniel.
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Well, I'm not going to blame Daniel because Daniel was
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thinking about the safety of his people.
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He was like, look, we don't have the numbers, blah, blah, blah.
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I can't put my people in danger, which understood and Grace was
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like, huh? We're not going to do this.
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I'm not nobody else's risking their life for me.
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She didn't even want Morgan and Morgan was, he said that he
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liked the idea but it's one of those things where it's like if
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you already know dang, it has his own guilt to deal with years
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and years worth of it. He don't need, you, don't need
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that on his conscience. But God, did the way that tickle
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me, he got off the face. I'm telling you this doggone
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shrike wet. First of all, y'all keep
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communicating over these walkie-talkies.
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And I realized that I have to go to another Channel or something
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to another Channel, and then just change back to the channels
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like every 10 minutes or so. And let make her think that the
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conversation y'all having is the conversation I said that to my
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yes, we're listening. It's 12:00 1:00 when I there
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anymore. Why do you think I put it on
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Wheels? First of all I'm going to say
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this too. Because shrike keeps talking
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about. How she's trying to save the
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children, how she's trying to make a better life for them.
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And if that other how can you say, you are trying to save
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anybody, when you have someone conducting medical experiments
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on the most sanitary surface, you can the history of medical
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experiments? That train like y'all have been
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asking, is he, y'all have been operating and doing medical
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experiments for seven years. You couldn't have somebody go
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over that train car once. Making my arrows.
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Well because the thought is if the Walkers are already infected
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they already grimy. They blood is nasty and black
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and disgusting. I'm clean over, but you trying
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to say people not the Walkers? People still need clean,
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surfaces, they need germ, free stuff.
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I mean, even if you can't sterilize it, the way you would
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in a regular hospital but we already know they're still Would
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be quit, been around because Grace said in the last episode,
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when she started to feel sick, she found a hospital and she
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tested herself and stats. My she found out, she had
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cancer. So we know they are Hospital
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still around this probably equipment that's probably
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cleaning solution. Y'all can't do it once over.
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Just once I mean they clean something that's head is
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appendectomy. so, someone's going This guy was playing after
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the surgery. So anyway, so I'm continue
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talking about striking her people because they getting on
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my last fucking nerves. And I think we talked about, we
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talked about this in the episode before how they get on my last
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nerves. This water is already sick.
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She has a bite. And your soldiers going to grab
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her and drag her from the car. like, Y'all know?
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Why would you expect that? That why would you bet it all?
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That's okay. That's why they asked dead now.
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But I'm saying, why was it knowing who striking?
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What did you expect that? Why did you expect anything
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less? I don't expect it.
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I'm just a selfish narcissistic woman to think about nobody, but
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herself and whatever this plan, she has formulated in her mind
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what this world to look like with no parents.
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And only children who should now earn their keep and figure out
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how to kill a thousand of Walkers.
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And why would she think? She don't care who get hurt.
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She don't care who lives who dies long as it.
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Ain't her children's, like she made that clear, was he sent
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them to? It says she was when the guys
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with with Morgan and Daniel and then wouldn't do it.
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I said, here's my fucking. She like fuck them kids.
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So either way, is fine. What she's not.
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What's that? She don't give a damn.
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I'm trying to protect him. You're so quick to be like
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because you got kid you ain't even out here.
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You got kids out here hiding in the woods patrolling with
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sticks. If somebody really want to take
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them out there, fuck them goddamn sense.
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They'll shoot you up and keep it moving, because could you
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imagine them children against the Reapers, the savior's, the
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anybody else that comes along but you got the meek and Mild
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manner Daniel and his group of parents who ain't going to hurt
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no kids because it might be one of my kids and then you got
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Morgan. You don't know who left.
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That's why she called out. That's why she's been isolated
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for so long. Especially if you're raising
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them the way. That Padre is raising them those
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children. I ain't raising no.
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But what I'm saying is, it's kind of like, like I said, with
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the whole thing, those kids are not going to reveal.
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Those kids are not going to question your Authority.
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They're not going to question whether or not you making stupid
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decisions, because all of us adults, see that Padre, they
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making some hella stupid. Visions, because we adults.
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Anyway, we'll talk more about shrike because I like I said I
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got some things to say about her but this episode and granted
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we've seen death episodes that that last a whole episode or
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whatever. I think the thing that really
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got to me was You have these two people who love this person
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who's dying. and, I understand them wanting to try to save her
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life. But it's something shrike'd us
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say, one thing towards the end, that kind of encapsulates that
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and it's that it's not about what she wants, is about what
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you want. Because this whole first part,
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like Grace is told them. I don't want y'all to try to
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save me Jones treatment is not going to work again.
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This is a person who has worked with radiation.
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I think she would be the one to listen to as much as you don't
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want me dead. I don't want y'all to try this
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treatment. It's a waste of time.
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Take me to these coordinates. This is where I want to go.
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I want to, I want to spend whatever time I can with you.
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She passes out, she wakes up, she's on a boat.
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She's looking at them. She's like, where are we going?
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Oh, we're going to the train car.
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No, that is not what I wanted. Like she is telling y'all and
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granite. I understand from old moto,
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moto. Understand this kind of thing.
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She don't understand this kind of dynamic, I wish you.
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For Morgan. I can understand especially
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considering you just got her back and you don't want to give
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up on the hope that she can be saved.
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But most people who are sick. Especially that kind of sick.
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They know when they're closed. Y'all shouldn't be telling you
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that for nothing, right? Oh, nothing She don't want to
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spend her last days, whatever running from folks, heck no its
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leash, right? Doesn't know about this station
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that she has. She got stood up.
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I don't know that was my thought because she had coordinates and
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how do I ensure him them and of them?
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I think they gave out, they probably gave them the
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coordinates, because remember, they were at the truck together
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when she gave them the coordinates.
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So remember they were splitting. No, seriously, they were
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splitting white and Sherry were going to lead them away, so that
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they could go to the so that they can go to the train car.
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I mean, trigger. And that was probably like a
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back-up plan. Okay.
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We can't make it to the train car.
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This is the next best place we can go.
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We can get June to come here. Because that was the whole
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thing. They're trying to get June
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because not only is Grace bit Finch.
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Is getting worse. Hey, he has a fever.
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His infection is starting to get red again and yeah, so the
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infection is back. So according to Jill, she may
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not have given him enough radiation and the infection is
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coming back. She may be able to treat it, she
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may not. But again Again, I love Dwight
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and I understand Dwight is worried about his child.
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I get that but you keep asking June questions when she's
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telling you stuff like June is being as straightforward as she
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can be. She was just saying no false.
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Hope she's saying okay, if this happens we might can do this if
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it. What do you mean?
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Might? What does that mean?
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It means what she mother fucking said it means Mike's, it means
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that this is a treatment that she developed under duress.
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One from having a gun pointed at her head to the second time.
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Aren't you having been tortured and had her finger cut off my
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fucking finger? She was expected to develop this
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treatment and tweak it. Almost immediately and under
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duress because she's trying to keep your child from dying.
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So no, it's not going to be a perfect treatment.
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Did it have some hope? Yes.
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And did it work for a little bit?
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Yes. For a little bit.
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Yes, you got a few more days now that's that's not to say that
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she can't get to him and do whatever, but I'ma be honest, by
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the end of this episode Finch was not the odds for Finch,
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we're not looking good. Same way you don't have a
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montage - shut up. You can't have a montage.
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We don't we haven't seen him in enough, he don't even know, they
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don't have it. He go.
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It's we'll have him sleeping. A straight leg making her fall
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is going to have when he pulled a gun on you.
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That was funny. His boat Grace just wants to go
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to this. I forgot what they call the
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relay station, whatever station same house, she's telling most,
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you know, she was like I just wanted us to go there, you know,
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over the years, I've been collecting stuff for Padre.
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And I was collecting other things too.
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And mo was like, for what, to make a home someplace that we
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could go. So, yeah, you know, where seven
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years, have gone by Grace, is never given up the hope that her
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and Morgan and mo would ever be able to get together.
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That makes it more sad. Does she plan for Life After
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Padre? What happens is the cards, the
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prefix, they start shooting off flares over the river which
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means that they know that Morgan Grace and mo are in the river.
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They know they're trying to go to the train car and they're
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drawing Walker's towards them. Now, they've also at this point,
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there are listening on the radio and again these radios got some
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hella batteries from a range. I couldn't hear anything.
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Or maybe because, you know, that could be, that could be a super
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duper 30-mile range. Thank you.
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Mom isn't that like for you, you to be all Padre for them to get
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in the boat and take that boat away from Padre.
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And you can still hear you. Have you got the top of the
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line? We want to go with it because
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other than that, it doesn't make sense.
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But anyway, so I'm Morgan and them are in the boat going going
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down. The river with the flares going
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off in front of them. This is where the white and
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Sherry realize that Finch is not doing well because the prefix
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have chased them, they've gotten away from them and he's not
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doing well. So as they raise June on the
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radio, of course, Morgan is heard the whole thing Morgan is
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like okay June, you have to go to Finch.
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And Moe is sitting in the boat, like, no, she has to come to the
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train car, they're like, no baby.
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It finishes infection is back. That means that June's treatment
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doesn't work. That means that there's really
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nothing we can do for Mama Grace right now.
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You know, so Morgan? Of course, he starts feeling bad
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because he was like, I actually just taking you where you want
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to go. So anyway, like I said in the
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beginning, Oh, you mean what? I say?
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So, he has to get off the boat because again, the prefix are
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drawing more Walker's towards their way.
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So he's going to try to draw them away and he has this idea,
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okay? We can't make it to the station
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that she wants to go to, but we can go to the carnival, the
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place where he first encountered Madison and Moe.
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Okay? We can take her to the carnival
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if we You know we kind of fix it up good.
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We should be able to last for a little while.
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You know I unspoken words until Grace dies they can do that.
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So you know where that is you can go again.
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How long before you're staying y'all got her a map but does it
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have Carnival listed on the map? Does she even know where the
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carnival was? Welcome your water.
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It was near water butt. Okay you know what and now that
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I think about it, this is what we probably should have done, we
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should have paused on that map when they were showing where the
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railroad track was. And look to see where it was.
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Hold on. I'm you know what?
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We're going to do that right quick.
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I'm about to cuz I'm about I'm going to pause.
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Hold on. I'm going to pause the keep
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that, okay? Okay, so I have it on in the
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background now. Now the map is folded.
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So it's like a middle part and then like the end part, but
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there are clearly some cities that you can see because MO is
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showing where the railroad track is that the train cars on their
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Is cooler Garden City, Richmond, Hills Richmond Hills.
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I just stayed in Richmond Hills a month ago.
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That is on. That is outside of Savannah.
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Uh-huh. So if she's looking at the
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railroad tracks, the railroad tracks goes down.
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Like yeah. They're they're not too far from
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the east coast of Georgia. So they are near Savannah.
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So again, it doesn't really make sense because how the hell did
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they get way over there? and when you make be able to
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make it from cooler to Atlanta in one day, that's only as far
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as driving. That's only like a
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two-and-a-half-hour drive. It's only a
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three-and-a-half-hour. Good one.
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Probably. Right.
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But still depending on again, we don't know if he walked the
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whole way. He could have found a bike.
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He could have found a car. He could have found some other
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mode of transportation. He she he could have stolen a
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padre vehicle and drove it up to a certain point.
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But what I'm saying is we don't know.
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Sure that he walked the whole way, right?
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But yeah, I'm sitting here looking at this map.
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There's polar there's the Savannah Airport Richmond Hills
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Keller Yeah. Being Savannah or somewhere near
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it. Tybee Island Jekyll Island, st.
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Simons Island, somewhere around there.
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They got to be on one of those islands.
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They have to be. Because other than that, none of
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this other stuff makes sense. And I'm looking at the way that
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the the way that these lines are drawn on this map like you have
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the regular map lines and for anybody who's listening to this,
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we're looking at the episode 11 minutes and it's at the 11
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minute marker, where Moe is pointing out where the railroad
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line is. So you have the regular map
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markings, but you also see all of these drawings in black
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marker. Probably like different paths
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that they've traveled through Padre, whether it was Scavenging
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or whatever it is that they do well but yeah.
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Even though. Yes, we did move the show to
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Savannah. They never confirmed with what
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area Padres and they got to be close to Savannah.
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Just looking at this map. Nah, those with where was the
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victims Tower? Victor.
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All of that was in Galveston, got to be awesome and Savannah,
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or if you look at If you look at the squiggly lines, the black
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lines on the map. It's going more so towards the
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west side of the state. So again that would put our
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Theory at Southern Alabama, Georgia, Florida in that
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particular area. Because the the map the markings
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on the map that they have are more in that area.
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So, yeah. But they're clearly.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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She's showing his got to be further down the line.
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It's yeah, they're near the Georgia coast.
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That's how he was able. We yeah, we said we did.
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Who dislike now. Okay, we have it.
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I'm like I don't know why I didn't think about that earlier.
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But yeah, when do I does looking on it and Yeah, and and it's
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almost like they, they purposefully had the map folded
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in such a way that you can't tell specifically where they are
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or where they have been. But again, all of those black
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markings they have been all over the place.
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Hmm. I'm sorry.
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Know, The Walking Dead. Don't do shit on accident.
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They don't, they don't and the the fact that there's not one,
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but two airports within that vicinity, one of them has to be
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Savannah. A airport.
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The other one, I don't know. okay, so that awkward pause was
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Casey and I think So I do a little detective work.
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It was where we had a clear view of the coordinates that Grace
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wanted to go to. So we have spent the last like
00:26:43
10 minutes. Trying to plug these coordinates
00:26:45
into everything. We came up with shit.
00:26:52
So if anybody else can figure this out where Grace wanted to
00:26:55
go, if that's a real coordinate, let me know but.
00:26:59
Yeah. Anyway going back to what we
00:27:01
were talking about the math. So yeah there they are somewhere
00:27:04
in the middle. South Georgia possibly near
00:27:08
Savannah, possibly on the other side where Alabama, Florida and
00:27:13
Georgia, all kind of need those, you know, those areas.
00:27:18
So yeah, it's like okay. They did give us a little bit to
00:27:25
go on. So we do know that they are
00:27:27
definitely not in Texas, they're not in Louisiana, they're not in
00:27:30
any of those States. They are closer to Georgia or in
00:27:34
Georgia which makes it a little bit more reasonable.
00:27:38
That Morgan would have traveled to King County.
00:27:41
He was probably only a few hours away from the shore.
00:27:45
But anyway, all right. Let's go back to the episode.
00:27:50
So as we mentioned, Morgan leaves off the boat to try to
00:27:57
lead the Walkers away and leave the prefix away from sharing the
00:28:01
white so they can try to get Finch to June.
00:28:04
Okay, he tells Mo to take Grace, back to the carnival where he
00:28:11
met them, and he will meet them there.
00:28:13
He was like, I'll take the long way around but I'll meet them
00:28:16
there. He you know, he gives his
00:28:18
goodbye to Grace and he was like, I'll see you again.
00:28:22
I promise when he said, I promise I said, oh yes and I
00:28:25
because one thing you don't do on the show as make promises
00:28:28
don't make promises. It's not going to happen.
00:28:30
So anyway, Morgan does what he's supposed to do.
00:28:35
He calls more on radio, he's like Moe.
00:28:37
I'm where we were supposed to meet.
00:28:40
Where are you? She's ignoring him.
00:28:46
On the radio. He's like, I think I know where
00:28:48
you going. I'm coming for you both I'm like
00:28:54
little girl little girl understand what you were trying
00:29:00
to do because you are so sure that this treatment is going to
00:29:05
work that this treatment that you didn't even know about it
00:29:07
until a few days ago. You are so sure it's going to
00:29:13
work which I understand you're desperate.
00:29:16
This is you have home is the mom that you just found.
00:29:19
You want to have time to spend with her.
00:29:21
I get it. I get it, I get it.
00:29:27
But you are, that's not the way to get it.
00:29:30
That's not the way to get it. You are an eight-year-old trying
00:29:35
to get a sick and bitten person. To a train car.
00:29:45
That you're not exactly sure where it is.
00:29:48
No, apparently she found it. She found the right, railroad
00:29:51
tracks. Like you said, she found her car
00:29:54
and she's telling Grace, you know, you'll understand when it
00:29:57
works, it's going to work. which means it's not Grace is trying
00:30:02
to tell her, she's like look, The prefix are going to find
00:30:06
you. They're going to take you back
00:30:07
to Padre. This is not what I want.
00:30:10
Turn around, take me back, call your father, call your father,
00:30:13
raised your father on the radio, walking him walking him and it
00:30:16
hit come the prefix standing there led by fucking dove.
00:30:21
I'm like, boy, the brainwash is so strong in this one.
00:30:28
Padre is not a person. It's an ideal idea.
00:30:34
You thought Padre was a person up until a few days ago.
00:30:38
Do you not remember that? The whole reason why you're
00:30:40
pissed at your mom died is because they stole you from her
00:30:43
in the first place. Not she gave you up.
00:30:45
They stole you and if they could take right she was trying to get
00:30:54
you back. It got killed in the process and
00:30:58
not killed by Walkers killed by Padre, folk to keep her from
00:31:03
coming to get you. But I will say this, she acts
00:31:07
more like a child brought up by Padre.
00:31:09
The memo does because again Mo, they have been giving her all of
00:31:14
this knowledge, all of this, I can get The Bravery, I can get
00:31:20
it. And I get what she said to
00:31:22
Grace, when, you know Grace said later on.
00:31:24
She was like you were so brave back there.
00:31:26
Facing the the prefixing. The lot less scary than losing
00:31:30
you. Okay, I get up.
00:31:32
I get all of it. but again, you have an eight-year-old who has
00:31:38
enough know how to roll you to a place.
00:31:42
You're not supposed to. You didn't want to go, she's
00:31:46
able to get you off of the boat by herself.
00:31:52
Carry you and put you on this little whatchamacallit.
00:31:58
And then she has the strength to move this train car down the
00:32:03
tracks. And then she can convince these
00:32:08
prefix who don't give a fuck about her or anybody else.
00:32:14
But they're going to want to let her go so she can save her mom.
00:32:17
They're not going to hurt and they let her go long enough for
00:32:21
her to get on the train so they can shoot the flares off again
00:32:26
and call Walker's to the train. How is that working for you Mo?
00:32:31
there's just so like, Again, that the way that they are
00:32:37
writing this little girl again, she is supposed to be eight.
00:32:44
She is a character who has been raised pretty much isolated from
00:32:50
the rest of the godforsaken world on this island.
00:32:57
Where she does not interact with other adults except for the
00:33:01
people who were there. She does not understand the
00:33:09
nuances of relationships or she should not, because she's never.
00:33:14
She's never had a healthy one since she was a baby.
00:33:20
But yet she can figure all of this out.
00:33:23
To try to get Grace to help that she needs.
00:33:25
And I understand a lot of that is probably a motion and I get
00:33:31
it. But there's only so much a
00:33:34
child, her age and size can do you are not going to tell me
00:33:38
that you can carry a grown-ass woman.
00:33:40
That is literally dead weight. She's knocked out.
00:33:45
This is my little bit, she helped walk a little bit.
00:33:54
For those of y'all. Listen, I wish you could see my
00:33:56
face right now. No, it does not make sense what
00:34:01
they are doing with her character.
00:34:04
You know what I'm saying? It's like they're trying to make
00:34:07
her I don't want to say it like that because I don't want it.
00:34:14
I don't want it to be a comparison of her and the other
00:34:17
young kid in this universe, but like there are times with even
00:34:24
Judith, where Judith was a kid, you know what I'm saying?
00:34:30
She acted like a kid. Yes, she was wise Beyond her
00:34:34
years, but again, as we discussed in the last episode,
00:34:37
Judith was raised in completely different circumstances than MO.
00:34:42
Jared had people who loved her who cared about her, who fought
00:34:47
for her, who protected her, who made sure that she still had
00:34:51
some semblance of a childhood right Mo.
00:34:55
He's never had any of that. So, this world wise child that
00:35:03
they're presenting to us. It does not make sense.
00:35:08
Tell her. Oh you remember that place?
00:35:10
We walk through with Madison where I met you and Madison the
00:35:14
carnival. Yeah, I remember it.
00:35:16
Do I remember how to get there? No.
00:35:18
Why would I I don't even know where the entry point was where
00:35:22
we got there. You know.
00:35:24
It's just like none of this is making sense.
00:35:29
It's just and then we have to deal with that.
00:35:33
On top of watching Grace died, watching her last wishes, the
00:35:38
basically ignored all the way up until she gets on that table.
00:35:42
And then at that point, I think she just started telling Mo What
00:35:46
mo needed to hear because in a few minutes is not going to
00:35:48
matter. I understand, I understand why
00:35:52
you did. And yes, it made for some
00:35:55
Beautiful Moments between them to.
00:35:56
Because again, this is something Mo has never had.
00:36:00
She's never had a mother be loving to her.
00:36:03
She's never had a mother be kind to her reassure.
00:36:07
Her try to try to protect her. Even in this moment, Grace is
00:36:12
dying. She is still trying to protect
00:36:15
Mo. Once they realize that the
00:36:17
treatment has not worked because Grace ends up with a fever, they
00:36:21
realized the treatment hasn't worked.
00:36:24
They radio Morgan Morgan is trying to get back to them it
00:36:27
again. Morgan is coming from way the
00:36:30
hill across wherever they were supposed to go.
00:36:34
You've already you basically have ensured that Morgan is not
00:36:38
going to get to say his goodbyes.
00:36:40
Yeah, that's already obvious. He's running nothing about, he
00:36:45
needs them. When she got out their boat, he
00:36:48
wasn't gonna see her again. That's why I can kiss the hand.
00:36:53
You're not going to see this lady again.
00:36:57
But while they're sitting there talking and they're giving their
00:37:00
goodbyes, and I'm telling you, I'm sitting here when she's
00:37:03
telling, she's calling Morgan my, my darling, my love and all
00:37:07
this stuff. And I love you, girl, I'm
00:37:09
boo-hooing like a moth, walk you here, still wasn't that your
00:37:14
your no? No, yes, she's not going to see
00:37:17
him, but once once they said that, the treatment didn't work
00:37:22
in June was telling her because Mo was like, we can do it again.
00:37:26
Tell me. And tell me how much to give her
00:37:28
June is like if we give her another dose, now she's going to
00:37:32
die and mo was like, well, she's not going to survive the bite.
00:37:35
She's going to die anyway. So what did you tell her?
00:37:38
Enjoy? The time you have left.
00:37:43
Don't sit. And, you know what?
00:37:44
I'm sitting here thinking about Sheree and black panther.
00:37:49
You're so busy trying to figure out ways to prolong somebody's
00:37:53
life when they are at, when they are on their deathbed dying
00:37:57
asking for you, you ignore it because you're so focused on
00:38:01
trying to save them and then when the moment passes, you
00:38:05
can't get that time back. That's what everybody is trying
00:38:09
to tell me. Look, I just want to spend time
00:38:11
with you look, just spend time with her, say your goodbyes,
00:38:15
just do whatever. And when she and Morgan are
00:38:18
having this conversation, unfortunately, Morgan has to be
00:38:21
the one to say and he was like you know, she's got to leave out
00:38:24
of there, right? And that's what she tells
00:38:26
Morgan, she can't there's Walker's outside.
00:38:29
That puts a little bit of fire on the Morgans ass because he's
00:38:33
thinking, okay, you know what? She can just leave out.
00:38:37
Leave leave Grace on the Train car.
00:38:41
And then I guess at that point Morgan was probably like I will
00:38:45
go ahead and come do this because I do not want to see
00:38:48
another person that I love and up in that state.
00:38:52
But now you, you should. I look because they're trapped
00:38:57
and you on the other side of town?
00:38:58
That's my question. What was it?
00:39:01
What's your notice? Just randomly, once you do, the
00:39:05
small talk was dying or about to die, and you don't picked up,
00:39:10
From the boat and picked up some the try and why you extrapolate
00:39:14
A sly goddamn gun. I just knew that was gonna be
00:39:17
the next step teii. Everything baby was like oh,
00:39:21
just tired now. So here's the first thing, one.
00:39:27
I don't think Moe has ever seen anybody turn.
00:39:30
So she doesn't know what to expect.
00:39:32
I don't think she knows what precautions to take.
00:39:35
She wouldn't have even thought about that and I think he's
00:39:38
every morning. Everybody else is so focused.
00:39:42
On trying to get done, what needs to be done.
00:39:45
Done. I don't think anybody thinks
00:39:47
that because again Morgan things.
00:39:49
Oh you could just get off the train and leave her on the
00:39:51
train. He's thinking that far ahead but
00:39:54
no nothing to say, oh my God, she needs to be strapped down
00:40:00
because I think at the point where Grace said there's Walkers
00:40:04
outside Morgan's only thought was to get some.
00:40:08
Oh, it's wrong. You know what I'm saying?
00:40:11
Yeah, so that I understand the other thing is when Grace tells
00:40:17
Mo I'm going to need you to do it.
00:40:21
I really think that most thought that she would be able to
00:40:25
because again, yes, this is her mom.
00:40:27
This is also somebody, she doesn't really have a close
00:40:32
emotional bond with yet. She's just started to develop
00:40:35
that. So you would think given the way
00:40:38
that she is, right? She was raised and the
00:40:41
circumstances. Now she might be just enough
00:40:45
detached to be able to do that especially after what they just
00:40:50
went through. Through watching Morgan.
00:40:53
The consequences of Morgan not being able to do what he was
00:40:56
supposed to do. He wasn't, he was supposed to
00:40:59
kill his wife's Walker. He didn't his son ended up dying
00:41:03
as a result, he didn't kill his sons Walker and mole almost died
00:41:08
as a result. So she's probably in her mind
00:41:11
thinking. Okay, I'm not gonna do what Dad
00:41:13
did I'm going to I'm going to make sure that Mom doesn't do it
00:41:18
and you know, somebody commented On Twitter about the fact that,
00:41:22
oh, you know, Grace turned into minutes.
00:41:24
I don't think that was the case. I think this was some time
00:41:27
because when Grace finally does die Mo has the scalp or her
00:41:34
hand. And they focus on showing that
00:41:37
scalpel in her hand for a few extra seconds.
00:41:43
Then the second time, you look up, Grace's head has turned.
00:41:49
So I think what happened was Was mole turned Grace's head, so she
00:41:55
knew it in the back, but she couldn't do it.
00:41:58
And in the third time, you see Mo looking over Grace, she's all
00:42:02
the way. On the other side of the table,
00:42:05
looking down at Grace, from the left side, and she says, I'm
00:42:09
sorry Mom, I can't do it. I think she had to have been
00:42:13
there for a while. Hmm.
00:42:16
Well, that's because I'm Morgan to get to her at the time that
00:42:19
he got to her. Her.
00:42:23
It had two, she had two men sitting there for a while
00:42:25
because I think if it had been yeah it had to have been a
00:42:29
while. And she was probably sitting
00:42:32
there fighting with herself, like I can do this, I can do
00:42:35
this again, thinking about what they just went through with
00:42:40
Walker, Dwayne and what her dad has gone through and what he has
00:42:44
lived with for the last 10 years.
00:42:47
She's probably thinking oh, I can do this, I can do this.
00:42:50
Like, this is kind of, sort of a little bit of what Padre has
00:42:54
trained her for, don't be emotionally involved on being
00:42:57
emotionally for this different way.
00:42:59
You know, the person, Right? And I think that's the thing.
00:43:02
She didn't anticipate because it again, how could she?
00:43:07
She's never grown up with this kind of connection.
00:43:09
So, she didn't understand how that was going to affect her.
00:43:13
And I think all of those things she didn't think her, but she
00:43:17
didn't look at her mom and think.
00:43:19
Oh, I need to strap her down before she comes back.
00:43:21
She's never seen the chain. She doesn't know how that
00:43:23
happens, you know, and honestly, if she had gone and sat in the
00:43:28
corner, And just been quiet until Morgan got there.
00:43:33
Grace probably wouldn't have even reanimated because if you
00:43:37
if you remember looking at Walker's on the other show like
00:43:41
the beginning of season, 11 for The Walking Dead when they were
00:43:47
when they were coming down the lines into that Army Surplus to
00:43:51
get the food. All those walkers have been
00:43:53
there dormant and it wasn't until the little dust and the
00:43:58
blood from Darrell's finger that they animated and we've seen
00:44:03
that with other walkers and other shows we saw.
00:44:05
We saw it in the world Beyond we've seen it, you know, time
00:44:08
and time again. If the walkers have no
00:44:11
stimulation around them that just going to sit there and
00:44:14
they're just going to be dead that just going to be whatever.
00:44:17
But when you see them walkers in the cars, that's been
00:44:20
vegetating, and somebody walks past.
00:44:23
That's when they're like oh wait, there's something going
00:44:26
on. She could have went and sat in
00:44:28
the corner and then good maybe not for too long because you do
00:44:33
have Walker's outside trying to get in the window and that
00:44:37
probably would walk in Grace up, but she probably would have had
00:44:40
a little more time. And she wouldn't have had to go
00:44:42
through the traumatic experience that she went, through of Grace,
00:44:47
waking as a walker and trying to kill her.
00:44:52
And it just so happens that Morgan was able to get to her in
00:44:59
time. But I mean, think about it, even
00:45:02
when Grace was trying to come at her, she was fighting her off.
00:45:05
And then, right towards the end, right before Grace, was able to
00:45:09
get to her, she kept saying, mom, stop mom stop.
00:45:14
So it's like even at her mind, at some point.
00:45:16
She knows it's not there anymore, but still, it's kind of
00:45:19
like Mom. It's me.
00:45:20
Don't do. This you know kind of like um
00:45:25
because I remember she's reading something somewhere, some some
00:45:29
point in time where they were talking about how when Shane
00:45:32
turn they were going to have him talk, say Rick or some shit.
00:45:37
Same thing, huh? I said that would have been
00:45:41
weird. Yeah, but if I mean for that
00:45:45
time, it probably having him talk might have been Weird.
00:45:51
But given the amount of time, given how quickly Shane turn
00:45:55
because Shane did turn quit Maybe.
00:46:03
So this was the, the question that other people have had and
00:46:06
we saw with the governor. Do they retain anything of the
00:46:10
person that they were when they turn?
00:46:15
Now, we saw a little bit of it with Penny because there were
00:46:18
times when he would sit there and calm Walker Penny's hair and
00:46:21
she would actually calm down, she would be just like, you
00:46:26
know, a child. Yeah.
00:46:29
Jenny why did Jenny keep going up the same house?
00:46:34
Because even in, even in last week's episode Morgan said, she
00:46:39
kept coming back. I don't know if it was that she
00:46:41
heard us or that she smelled us but it's So strange that she
00:46:45
kept coming back to the same house, even in the first
00:46:48
episode, where we saw her walker when Rick was looking out the
00:46:52
peephole, okay. You know, if you're looking at a
00:46:54
peephole from outside, you see a pinpoint of a DOT and you might
00:47:00
see some light move behind it, but they were already in the
00:47:04
dark only being illuminated by candles.
00:47:06
So it's not like there was that much light but Jenny had a sense
00:47:10
she would look and she would do this.
00:47:14
And that's what she would walk up the stairs and try the door
00:47:17
knob. That's why even back then.
00:47:20
I was like, I have a feeling they're still a little bit of
00:47:23
what they have. Don't you even remember in the
00:47:28
Tails episode Anthony Edwards, when he was tracking the one
00:47:33
Walker, he was like that was his specimen because he thinks that
00:47:39
this particular Walker has some memory retention.
00:47:44
Even after being turned. So the theory has been played
00:47:47
around with that is possible to do it but but Grace wouldn't
00:47:55
know that. You know what I'm saying?
00:47:56
So that just kind of she just reverted back to that Basic
00:48:00
Instinct. Mom, this is Mom, she's my mom
00:48:03
she's not going to hurt me and she did that in her fear which
00:48:07
is so sad because and is one of the is one of the only times
00:48:13
that I feel like They portrayed her.
00:48:14
As her age, they portrayed her, as the kids, she supposed to be.
00:48:19
Because again, all of this other stuff that she's been doing, she
00:48:22
has not had enough exposure to the rest of the world to the
00:48:26
rest of her circumstances, right?
00:48:28
Could be doing the things that she's doing.
00:48:30
Now, her listening to June and and doing what she told her to
00:48:35
do as far as the treatment, okay?
00:48:37
Anybody can follow directions that part I'm not bothered by
00:48:41
you know because of June says Okay.
00:48:43
So So you're going to, you're going to grab this thing and it
00:48:45
looks like this and you're going to turn this but that's not
00:48:48
something hard for her to do, right?
00:48:50
Her being able to navigate down the river, and go to the place
00:48:53
that y'all met and all the stuff that to me is very unrealistic.
00:49:00
Bracket, hold to the train companies.
00:49:04
In all of that to me is very unrealistic for a child.
00:49:08
Who is supposed to be eight. Again, has been raised isolated
00:49:14
and without all of the other stuff, right?
00:49:18
I think these last scenes with her and Grace has been the most
00:49:24
realistic. Did they have had her portray or
00:49:30
her character? And it added so much to the
00:49:34
scenes because you have these two characters here.
00:49:37
You have the one character who can't get to them and they're
00:49:40
all conflicted. They all know that the end is
00:49:43
about to come and they're all dealing with it in their own
00:49:45
ways. Moe was starting to feel guilt
00:49:48
because she was like, I should have just did what you wanted.
00:49:50
I, you know, I should have went with dad told me I robbed you
00:49:54
guys from your time together. Either, you know, and then
00:49:57
that's when Grace. Okay?
00:49:59
So like this was the part that had me sock, like, ugly cry
00:50:04
sobbing. When she tells Mo, you didn't,
00:50:08
you didn't do much. You actually saved us and she
00:50:12
was like, there was a time long ago when things were Bleak and
00:50:16
your father and I were going to end things.
00:50:19
Do you know what stalked us it was you.
00:50:22
We heard you cry and you see the flashes from that episode?
00:50:26
Would they? Are about to commit suicide and
00:50:29
I'm just Ballin, Ballin Ballin Ballin like, oh my gosh, she is
00:50:33
about to die at this point. Like, you basically just gave
00:50:37
that child, probably the best gift that you can give her in
00:50:43
the circumstance to let her know that you are, the reason we are
00:50:46
still here. You were the reason we had more
00:50:49
time because that would have been it for Morgan and Grace's
00:50:53
story, and they didn't even really get to have much of A
00:50:56
story to that point, right? So for her to be able to tell
00:51:01
her this and give that to her and then she died.
00:51:06
I was just like y'all fucking make me sick, y'all make me
00:51:10
sick, but then I was hoping Beyond hope that this child will
00:51:14
go through. I did not want to see grace come
00:51:17
back as a walker. I feel like it, especially as
00:51:20
much as we've seen it in this universe, if you have the
00:51:25
opportunity, To keep your loved one from doing that.
00:51:31
I feel like that's what you're supposed to do is one of the
00:51:34
reasons why it pissed me off so much that they allowed on the
00:51:40
main show for Eric to just walk off and join a herd with Aaron.
00:51:46
Not taking care of that because if you have someone that you
00:51:49
love, you aren't supposed to let them do that, call said it so
00:51:54
many times he had to do that with.
00:51:56
Glory, you know, Spencer had to do that with Deanna.
00:52:00
They had to do it with Sasha, you don't, you don't let these
00:52:04
people turn unless it's a circumstance that you can't
00:52:07
control. And then when you can or when
00:52:11
you have to, then you have to put that person.
00:52:13
Now, she didn't, she didn't have to turn, but again, we can't
00:52:18
expect an eight-year-old to be able to have that kind of
00:52:25
Bravery maturity, whatever to be able to say.
00:52:29
Okay, you know what? Yes, I'm about to stick this
00:52:31
knife in my mama's head, especially someone that she just
00:52:34
recently connected with. Like I said, you would think
00:52:37
that she would have been detached enough, because they
00:52:40
didn't have a lot of time together, but that goes to show.
00:52:43
I think just how in that small amount of time, Grace was able
00:52:48
to work her way into most heart and not only Grace, but Morgan
00:52:52
too. Just for it to go to shit
00:52:56
because Grace had, I mean Morgan has to come in he has to kill
00:53:00
Walker Grace to save Mo and then Here Comes shrikes bitch ass.
00:53:04
I was like Morgan if you don't go outside and kill this bitch.
00:53:07
Yeah like y'all literally just killed Grace here, you come with
00:53:15
emails staff. That Morgan ended up using Oh, I
00:53:19
thought we didn't have to come. I thought we were going to have
00:53:22
to come in there. Your brain.
00:53:23
Morgan was like look, can't we just bury her in peace and you
00:53:27
leave us alone. She won't even grant them that
00:53:32
much. And then, you know, she starts
00:53:36
talking about Oh she starts talking about what she's going
00:53:40
through. That's what I've been trying to
00:53:42
protect them from. She doesn't ever have to feel
00:53:44
that. You know, I could kill you right
00:53:45
now Morgan. But she's already lost one
00:53:47
parent today. I'm like bitch.
00:53:51
Not seeing you pick up anything to kill anybody in any of these
00:53:55
episodes. We have.
00:53:56
We've seen you in and you want to talk about using to kill
00:54:00
Morgan. Yeah.
00:54:01
Okay. The edge please.
00:54:04
But as so, while Morgan is seen here trying to take care.
00:54:08
Of this, of course, you got the prefix down here, Mo is on the
00:54:11
train. Looking at Grace, and I could
00:54:15
tell, something was changing just, by the way, she was
00:54:18
looking at Grace because where she was looking at Grace with
00:54:21
sadness, when Morgan was on the train.
00:54:23
By the time, he got ready to get off the train, she was looking
00:54:26
at Grace with something, totally different.
00:54:29
And then she tells which she comes off the train and she
00:54:32
tells Morgan, she was like Dad stop.
00:54:34
She was like, she's right. I don't want to feel this way
00:54:37
anymore and Morgan's life. She can't, she can't turn off
00:54:39
your emotions and I think what was like, was she literally
00:54:43
taught me how to do that for seven years.
00:54:46
I wasn't this lift up and now I'm hurting because I just lost
00:54:50
this person. So yeah, I don't want to do this
00:54:53
shit anymore. You know what, what you need
00:54:55
done? Why do you need me?
00:54:56
Why do you need, like, why were you, why are you trying to get
00:54:59
into the rail rail yard? And she's like, oh, we have
00:55:03
everything that we need to rebuild, but there's thousands
00:55:06
of carrying there. That wasn't thousands of carry
00:55:10
on there when you and your brother were there.
00:55:12
So why didn't y'all get that shit off before?
00:55:17
But no. Now you now you want Morgan and
00:55:19
you want his friends to go and clear and then Mo was like, we
00:55:23
can do it, I can do it. I was like, look down ma'am.
00:55:29
I was like, look, girl if you don't sit your ass down and then
00:55:32
of course she goes to dove in the rest of the prefix.
00:55:34
We can do it, we can clear. That's the way.
00:55:37
That's what they've been training us to do all these
00:55:39
years. I was like, don't you be using
00:55:40
your daddy's turn? To talk about what you bout to
00:55:44
do for this. But I was I mean I understand my
00:55:48
dear Mama just died. Your daddy's just had to come
00:55:51
save you. Now all of a sudden you super,
00:55:55
Super 8 year old and gone go get your little couple friends and
00:56:00
y'all gonna go kill a thousand workers, okay?
00:56:02
So I'm sure it's not just gonna be her in those preface.
00:56:06
I know they have a lot of kids and at that point I feel like
00:56:13
Moe is angry. Absolutely.
00:56:15
She's angry and she sad and she's hurt.
00:56:19
And she needs an outlet for that.
00:56:21
So I understand that but she needs to go to the other show
00:56:25
and find out what her could have been aunt.
00:56:27
Michelle unti Michonne says what she's see.
00:56:30
What Hangar was stupid. Get you killed please don't
00:56:34
please don't go down that route. But of course at this point most
00:56:38
determined she has basically cut Morgan off now.
00:56:42
She was like Like he's pleading with her.
00:56:45
She has ignored him. She's not paying him.
00:56:47
No attention nothing. She was like, I'm going to get
00:56:49
this done. I was like, now, when Morgan was
00:56:53
sitting there and the two people were next to him.
00:56:57
I knew he was going to knock them out.
00:56:59
I didn't think he was going to kill him because they're still
00:57:02
young young people but I was like, okay he bout to knock them
00:57:05
out but when he ran up, instead of trying to run past shrike He
00:57:11
should have knocked her ass out first and push.
00:57:15
It was maybe killed her. Grab that grab that staff.
00:57:20
And took her head clean off. Like he did in me, like you did.
00:57:23
Which McCall is he? Yeah, that's what he should have
00:57:28
done. That's what he should have done.
00:57:32
But he did, but he didn't. So now, answer and get ripped.
00:57:40
They strike his put Morgan back on the train car with Grace is
00:57:45
dead body and they set off more flares so that Walkers can come.
00:57:51
They've locked him on the train car so he can't get out.
00:57:55
So now he just SOL. And I thought that too, but you
00:57:59
have to keep in mind, these are our people, they have more
00:58:03
Ingenuity. Understand.
00:58:06
He probably has the walkie steel so he can call Daniel and all
00:58:11
them. And you know, the mistakes, she
00:58:12
made dropping the ass. Girl.
00:58:19
But now he acts, he had a stick. He never took the eggs.
00:58:23
No, no. I'm I'm saying what?
00:58:25
Strike left. Maybe she threw the ax down.
00:58:28
Oh yeah, mistake. Yeah.
00:58:31
Oh yes. Yes.
00:58:32
Miss, thank you. Yes.
00:58:34
Yeah. Mistake for her.
00:58:35
Absolutely, absolutely. Because if nothing else more
00:58:39
than go give me. He don't kill her.
00:58:41
Especially if something happened to me.
00:58:43
He is going to kill the fuck out.
00:58:44
Her I don't like he's lost Brave.
00:58:49
Don't think so either. But I'm just saying that would
00:58:51
be. He just don't kill him.
00:58:53
Just I say June got to be the one who kills.
00:58:57
Right. I said, yes I think there's a
00:59:00
there's like a whole lot of people that should be able to
00:59:03
kill her. So I think at this point, they
00:59:07
don't have to fight each other to determine who has the right
00:59:10
to let me get it. No let me get a new beginning.
00:59:14
Yeah yeah but that bitch needs to die, she absolutely does.
00:59:20
And I will say this. So, next week is the mid-season
00:59:25
finale. That's episode 6.
00:59:29
Then we'll get six more episodes.
00:59:32
I do not need strike or Padre. To take up all six of those
00:59:41
episodes. If you got to do one to close
00:59:45
out the storyline and then what I need to happen is I need for
00:59:50
Morgan to take his people, all his people and make his way back
00:59:54
to Virginia. That's, that's what I want you
00:59:59
to vote again. Just go home, Morgan, go home
01:00:04
because there's a lot going on. That you didn't know about.
01:00:06
You don't know. The Rick is gone.
01:00:08
You don't know that. Carl is there?
01:00:09
You don't know. Michonne is gone.
01:00:11
You don't know about Tara in. You don't know about all these
01:00:15
people whose heads was on a hike.
01:00:18
You don't know about none of this stuff.
01:00:19
You need to take your ass home. You need to go home, take your
01:00:25
child. Take Dwight a Sherry and
01:00:28
possibly finish. Because, again, like I said
01:00:30
that, by the end of this episode, it don't look too good
01:00:32
for Finch because June said, if the treatment didn't work on
01:00:38
Grace, it may not work on Finch and they don't even know,
01:00:43
they're not even near where Finch is.
01:00:45
So they didn't get to train because fence is smaller.
01:00:50
They can't even get to the train car.
01:00:55
That's all you're gonna find a way.
01:00:59
I'm just, okay, so I watched the episode when it released on
01:01:05
Thursday and then I watched it again last night because Karen,
01:01:08
David was live-tweeting it and I just have to say she is one of
01:01:14
those actors. She interacts a lot with her
01:01:18
fans on social media like we were all making comments to her
01:01:22
and she was answering pretty much all of the comments.
01:01:25
If she wasn't answering it, she was liking stuff.
01:01:29
Was retweeting stuff. And then after the episode
01:01:32
aired, before it aired on the East, excuse me, before it aired
01:01:36
on the west coast, she got on Instagram and did an Instagram
01:01:39
live and she talked about her experience and she according to
01:01:43
her, she knew that Grace was going to die.
01:01:47
Like from the beginning. She already know what Grace is
01:01:51
path was, but she said it was still emotional to play it.
01:01:55
She didn't know that Grace was going to go out with a walker by
01:01:59
like that was new but because of the whole radiation storyline,
01:02:03
she knew Grace's days but some point.
01:02:05
So she said the Walker B thing was very surprising and because
01:02:11
she is in her own words, a big scaredy-cat she said filming The
01:02:15
Walker stuff was it was rattling to her because she said she
01:02:21
scared herself looking in the mirror because it was she was
01:02:23
like that is zombies. That kind of that's not my
01:02:26
thing. But she said her husband has
01:02:28
been Wanting her to play a zombie.
01:02:30
So he was really excited about the fact that she got to play a
01:02:33
walker. But, you know, again, she is so
01:02:38
gracious to her fans and she, she just expressed a lot of love
01:02:44
and appreciation to the show, to her co-stars to the fans.
01:02:48
And just, she got very choked up about it, which a lot of us were
01:02:53
because, you know, I understand what you were saying.
01:02:55
Yes, Grace went through a whole lot, put her out of her misery.
01:02:59
But I, you know, you feel like if there has to be a character
01:03:02
that can overcome a lot of that stuff like you put this
01:03:06
character through this, this, this, this and this, and they
01:03:09
still survive. She's the character.
01:03:11
I wanted that for because, even in life, there are people who go
01:03:14
through so much shit and they end up winning in the end.
01:03:20
They end up getting everything that they want and she was so
01:03:23
close to it. And if this is The Walking Dead,
01:03:27
I know. I can't know, he had hope, but
01:03:31
we going to go to this place that I got us all prepared and I
01:03:35
got stuff because we can just go together and be a family.
01:03:38
That was a death sentence right there.
01:03:39
Did you see the carnival picture on the wall?
01:03:44
So in the station, the relay station, when they put Finch in
01:03:48
the bedroom, that was the bedroom that she is set up for a
01:03:52
moment. There was a picture of a
01:03:55
Carnival Merry-Go-Round on the wall.
01:03:58
I did see that and I was like, Now, I really want to go back
01:04:03
and re-watch the episode because that Molly episode was one of
01:04:05
the best efforts. I love that episode, absolutely
01:04:08
love it. But So now Grace is Gone.
01:04:15
Samoas off with her little. I don't even want to say friends
01:04:18
but her I don't know co-workers would ever grew her crew
01:04:25
cleaning crew. They're going to go try to click
01:04:27
clear the Walkers which I noticed they didn't necessarily
01:04:32
clear them but those Walkers are office.
01:04:36
And roaming around and there's a horde now.
01:04:39
And of course, we're going to see Madison and make them sold
01:04:42
and Daniel and all. But you also see Morgan is about
01:04:49
to go back into that. Um, he's about to go back into
01:04:51
the head space because again, you see, writing on the wall in
01:04:56
the train car. He was like, I thought I was
01:04:58
past this, you just had to kill your other love, not days after
01:05:04
you just killed your son. Yours Walker.
01:05:07
Son, say the same looker. So you, you got some stuff
01:05:13
happening. So, yes, you're not the past
01:05:16
that yet, but I hate to say it. This is the Morgan that we need
01:05:21
because when they're in that headspace, Anybody going to fuck
01:05:26
with him, he is not playing with you, he's about to go get his
01:05:30
child, he's about to fuck up. Anybody who gets in it is and
01:05:34
with what that last the last thing he says in that promo at
01:05:38
the end of the episode he was like what did he say?
01:05:41
Baby move out the way. I was like, oh he bout to whup
01:05:44
some ass and I'm here for it because it needs to be strikes
01:05:48
as because I'm so tired of her. I'm so tired of these.
01:05:51
Yeah please. But I also don't want it I don't
01:05:55
want fish right to die and then we got to see this little
01:05:58
punk-ass brother of hers. Oh no, he'll kill me.
01:06:02
A quick cool off, too. He's going to be a what it is.
01:06:06
They're going to end up trying to figure out where only Kia
01:06:08
parents that. And we are mama.
01:06:14
I mean, they're going to have to go back and get Madison's files
01:06:16
that she left behind, but I'm sorry about that.
01:06:20
Yeah. We we not even when I even
01:06:22
stopped because I was still on the, I'm still on the make it
01:06:27
make sense. Mike Because y'all still haven't
01:06:32
told us how Madison survived. Like, how did she get out of the
01:06:35
stadium? How does she get?
01:06:38
Because we remember we went back to the stadium, that stadium was
01:06:42
decimated. so anyway, she had what a fight Dynamite Or
01:06:50
firesteel. I think it was just a flare.
01:06:53
Okay? I think it was just the flare,
01:06:55
but she says, we already know them, get fucked by no fucking
01:06:58
fire. So anyway rest in peace Grace
01:07:05
you deserved way better. Morgan deserved better mode
01:07:08
deserves better but of course like you said this is The
01:07:11
Walking Dead universe and people don't necessarily get what they
01:07:15
deserve. Yeah.
01:07:17
Unless it's a them, he definitely got what he deserved.
01:07:21
You know what? Did you really have to go there?
01:07:28
You have any final thoughts on this episode.
01:07:31
I'm glad they finally put Grace out of her misery and out of my
01:07:35
misery and so now we can go on with moving on to kill shrike
01:07:41
and end up with a very happy ending.
01:07:43
I would have loved to have seen her.
01:07:44
Do it though. But I just feel like even after
01:07:48
this finale, our second, the second half is going to focus on
01:07:51
where the fuck victories. It needs to because we haven't
01:07:55
heard anything about Victor. Oh, I figured that's what they
01:07:58
say. I figured that's what they was
01:08:00
saving the second half for for everybody else.
01:08:02
We ain't seen main character wise.
01:08:08
Well, I mean, they've already quote-unquote alluded to Charlie
01:08:12
they quote unquote, alluded to Luciano that she might not be
01:08:16
around. Anymore, we haven't heard not a
01:08:19
word about Sara or window or follow it.
01:08:25
Look looking at the feed of sharing the from squawking dead.
01:08:31
We don't know where Rabbi Jacob is.
01:08:32
I said, oh shit, he did come back, didn't he?
01:08:35
Well know where he is either. So I have a feeling some of
01:08:41
those people we probably will never hear about again.
01:08:43
Just like we never heard about Heath again.
01:08:45
We haven't heard about Cindy again we haven't heard about
01:08:48
Callaghan yeah there's just some people they're just going to
01:08:52
leave open and unresolved and I'm just going to put it out
01:08:59
there that they're doing that because they're going to be seen
01:09:01
in future things. That's just my head Canon and
01:09:04
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