#fantastic4 #marvelcinematicuniverse #MCU Marvel's First Family finally joins the MCU! In a universe where The Avengers don't exist, The Fantastic Four - consisting of Reed Richards, his wife Sue, brother-in-law Johnny, and best friend Ben - have become the heroes of Earth 828 after a freak accident in space imbues them all with special abilities. The family is joyful when finding out that the Richards' are about to be parents, but when a powerful cosmic being threatens the safety of their planet in exchange for their (seemingly) powerful unborn child, the team must work together to find a way to save both.
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What's up hybrids? Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast. This is Hanukkah and I am here
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with Anthony, Michelle and Mike, and we are talking about
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Fantastic Four First Steps, the newest entry in the MCU.
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I have a feeling this is going to be a pretty interesting
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discussion because I don't think I don't think we all feel one
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same way about it. It's like just having
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conversations with you guys and having conversations with other
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people. It's like there's so many
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different, you know, thoughts about this movie.
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Some people really like it, some people really didn't like it.
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Some people were in the middle. Some people like parts of it and
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didn't like other parts and it's just been all over the place.
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But mostly I've heard good things.
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So this and and see what's going on, see how we feel about it.
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Let's see where we want to start.
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First thoughts, just like just short first thoughts.
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Now just good at Superman. I would really look, we're not
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doing that right. Though.
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You said first. Thoughts in short, OK.
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Relatively speaking, yeah. OK, Alright.
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Here. OK, here's the thing.
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There were certain things I could appreciate about this
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movie and certain things that I couldn't.
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I thought it took way too long to get started.
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It was, I mean, this thing was just, I felt like like I was an
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hour in before Silver Surfer got there It, you know, it wasn't,
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but it felt like it dragged on and on.
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I was just like, can we get to the fucking point?
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It felt like it didn't get to the point soon enough for me.
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I there were a few dead moments in there where I was just like,
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why are we like as much as I love the Natasha Lyonne, it's
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like the interaction that been had with her.
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I was just like, OK, I know, I know some people think been
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these are quote UN quote love interest, but those seems just
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kinda drag to me. I know people are going to hate
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me for this, but I don't know about Pedro Rez Reed.
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OK, she trying. To dodge those billions.
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I. Really am now there.
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There were there were certain points in that I really liked
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him as Reed, but there were other points where I was just
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kind of like, I don't know, is it there were certain things
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that I didn't know about what I loved in this movie.
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First off, fucking Galactus was fucking amazing.
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I've seen this movie twice. I saw once in on a smaller
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screen, let's say, and I saw it again in the movie theater and
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in the movie theater, it's like Galactus look very good.
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I loved everything about him. I love the Silver Surfer.
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I thought she, I thought she did a really good job and I love how
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they handled Johnny in this and like how they didn't did turn
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him into someone who is just like being silly and chasing
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girls and all this other shit. Like he actually had a purpose.
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He was one of the reasons why the plan succeeded and he had a
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real role in this movie and I really appreciated that.
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I thought that then. Like that's one of the main
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highlights for me in this. I can't wait to see what they do
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after this 'cause I know a lot I know Franklin Richards is.
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The way they handle Franklin Richards is going to be telling
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because it's just like the Multiverse Saga.
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Like if you don't handle Franklin Richards right, it's
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like you, you either give him too much power or you don't give
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him enough power. Now Franklin Richards.
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Franklin Richards is one of the most powerful beings in Marvel
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period. OK, 'cause I was gonna say, is
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there such a thing as too much power with him?
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Because I've heard that as well. I mean you could, I mean you.
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It depends on how you show him. Like if you just show him be
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doing whatever the fuck he wants to, then it's like, OK, what's
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the, what's his point? What's his purpose?
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He's just here just doing bullshit.
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Or if you don't, you know, him feeling it at more at a more
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things than he succeeds. And it's all how you handle him.
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I hope they handle him properly 'cause this is he'll just be
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another multiverse saga where they kind of drop the ball on
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it. And I don't want to see that
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cause Franklin Richards is a great character and a very
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interesting character. So I mean.
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He gets he he, he gets nerfed different ways in the comments.
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He does, yeah. But yeah, I enjoyed the movie.
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I knew it wasn't gonna happen. But I was like, when Sue went
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down, I was like, no, the fuck you not.
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No, the fuck you're not. Then I saw Frank.
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I was like, OK, Frank, don't bring her back.
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OK, cool. But for a second I was like, no.
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And when they when the Galactus played play DoH with Mr.
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Fantastic, I was like gonna break it.
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I was like, we can't, we can't see 2 Mr. Fantastic get
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spaghettified in two. Like that'd be the second one.
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You've done spaghettified. You can't do that shit.
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Like, come on. Yeah, that should look painful.
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As it did, I was. I was literally cringing in my
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seat like oh oh. Oh yeah, he's gonna be torn to
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pieces. Yeah.
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Like the sound design on that was crazy.
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Like, you could, like, hear him stretching.
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And I was like that. That's not like tendons.
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Like, no, no, no. Oh, come on.
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Yeah. But yeah, I'm a sucker for mid
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century modern, mid century modern architecture and style.
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So I loved every design in this was spot on for me.
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I loved it. Yeah.
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I mean, it was just, it was just certain things that are weird to
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me. But All in all, this is a great
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movie. OK.
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He has a lot for his initial thoughts.
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Yes, he does, but he always does.
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As I was going to say, it was May.
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It was average, the initial thought and then y'all come back
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to me. But the initial thought I was
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like this is OK. I mean will I go see it again?
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No. Did it do anything?
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No, that's initially. OK.
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Initially. My initial thoughts was the same
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after watching Captain America First Avenger the first time.
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That was cute. Yeah, that's cute.
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But but I'll come back to that though because I have more
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thoughts. But that was my initial thought.
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Sorry, Dan, I. Start talking.
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I'm sorry guys. Jeez.
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No, it's fine. I expected.
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That's why I was. That's why I was like, breathe,
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because I knew Mike was going to.
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Go on a. 5 minute the speech but it's OK it's OK because I know
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you still have plenty to say we. Still have to.
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Discuss yourself. That's fine.
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My my initial thoughts was I thought it was a fun movie.
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I do agree that it kind of dragged at the beginning, but I
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felt like that was more so to kind of introduce the characters
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to people who may not have been familiar with the first two
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versions of this story. And also for the people who
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aren't comic book people, I do like what they've done.
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And they also did this with Superman as well.
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I like it that they did not give us a play by play of the quote
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UN quote origin story for the team because I feel like we've
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we've done that, we've seen that and we don't need another
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version of I felt like it would have been a waste of film.
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Even though I think with these characters, with these people
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who are portraying these characters, I think it would
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have been interesting, but I don't think we needed it.
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Overall, I liked it again because I like, I remember
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reading Fantastic Four comics when I was young, but I wasn't
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into those like I was with like X-Men or X Factor.
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So I only read. I'm only vaguely familiar with
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their story and then I saw the first two Fantastic Four films
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with Ian Gruffold and Jessica Alba, did not see the one with
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Michael B Jordan. So I, I only have a little bit
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of knowledge about what this team actually is.
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And I think they did a good job with introducing them.
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But yeah, there's some things in there that I think probably
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could have been fixed or probably could have been done a
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little bit better if maybe they had a a slightly longer runtime.
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But we'll go into the specifics. But so let's, yeah, let's talk
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about the let's talk about the film.
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How did you guys feel about the fact that they didn't?
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They kind of gave us an abbreviated version of the
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events that made them the superheroes as opposed to just
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the scientists. I loved.
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It I did too. Yeah, I, I think it was good
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because there's certain characters that we all as the
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general public, everybody knows their origin story.
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Spider Man, Superman, Batman, you know, and Wonder Woman, not
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so much. But and I think Fantastic Four,
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like those are the ones that everybody knows their origin
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story. So you don't have to give it to
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us again. Yeah, but I don't, I don't think
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so. But like Hanukkah said, like it
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was really for people who don't because I don't think everyone
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even thinks about the Fantastic Four because I've seen questions
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like, oh, they are the original family, the first family.
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Like it has gone over their head.
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But I love how to get us who knows the origin story and the
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ones who don't how the style of how they did it, like, oh, this
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is a year later, you know, newspaper, television.
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I like how they did that. So you can be like, OK, a review
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for the ones of us who know, like in this Earth, this is how
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it happened for them. It was almost like the way they
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would do it in the universe, for all the people who don't really
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know. Yeah, they do like a little
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blurb. Yeah, yeah.
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Because it was like a community. Yeah.
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So it was like watching. Introduction.
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So for, for the 60s, it would have been like watching Johnny
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Carson or watching David Leon, you know, talk about and, and
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kind of introduce these people like, oh, these are these people
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and this, you know, kind of like the the sizzle reel, if you
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will. Yeah.
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Right, because in case you didn't know, this is how they
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got to. Pass.
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Right. Yeah.
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And this is what they're doing now currently and how they're
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helping, you know, the community and society.
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So it was. Yeah.
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I like the style of it. Yeah, yeah.
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I also like the fact that it seemed like, OK, so one of the
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things that we do learn at the beginning is that this is not
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quote UN quote, our Earth that they are on.
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They are on a totally different Earth.
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They're on Earth 828, which I had seen a couple of days before
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they named 828 was for that Kirby because that was his
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birthday. So I was like, oh, OK, that's
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cute little touch. So this is a different Earth.
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So of course they're in the 60s, but it's a futuristic 60s.
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So it's kind of like, it's like the MCU meets the Jetsons.
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You know, you're in 60s, you have this kind of vintage vibe
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from what we know of what the 60s were.
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But they have the flying cars, they have the, you know, the
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advanced technology that that we didn't have back then.
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So I thought that was interesting using the talk show
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host to tell the story. I thought that was a really
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interesting way to do it too, because you know, so much of
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what we see with the regular MCU and the the way that they tell
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the stories as far as the superheroes, you have the news,
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you have it sensationalized, you have them, you, you know,
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there's propaganda involved. There's it's just a whole bunch
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of different ways that they do. I want to say that they kind of
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spend the superheroes in a negative way sometimes.
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And you didn't really see that much with this film, with this
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family like it. It really seemed like the world
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was behind these heroes. Like when they when they knew
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what the tragedy was and what happened and how it changed
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them. You didn't have a lot of the the
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negative stuff and I like that they that they showed that like
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even with Ben, you know, Ben being the thing, being a
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different person, looking different, you didn't see any
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kind of hate towards him in this film.
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You didn't see any kind of bullying, any kind of just any
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of that it. Was the opposite.
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Yeah, it it really was. It was.
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It was very much that world really embraces people who are
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different, which I loved, you know, of course, up until the
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the point where they find out that, oh, this is all you have
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to do in order to save us. And then they kind of turn but
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on. On the one hand, that's also
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kind of understandable because it's like it's just the one
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thing, but it's a big one thing. But but aside from that, you
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know, the the kids sitting there cheering him on.
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Hey, pick up the car. You know they're playing with
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him. Mike, what you were saying as
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far as the the, the potential love interest.
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Now we've had this discussion talking about other shows.
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I don't necessarily have to see characters with a love interest,
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but I like the fact that they kind of showed a little bit of a
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positive spin for him because again, with him looking so
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different and him being so different, the thought would be
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is he going to have to be alone for the rest of his life?
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And so to see that there's a potential there that somebody
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was looking at him not as a quote UN quote monster, but some
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as just a man who's different. I I really enjoyed that.
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I I really liked the feel good tone of of the film overall.
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You know, me too. Yeah, I mean, it was, it's, it's
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something that something that we don't really get to see a lot of
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with our superhero movies because it's like everybody
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loves you when you're doing good or when you're doing things that
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benefit them. And then, yeah, they turn on you
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when things get different. But even the the little bit of
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time that we saw them turn on the Fantastic Four with this,
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with the way that Sue handled it and came out and talked to
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everyone, everyone was like back on their side real quick.
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And I was like, I like this because people are actually
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listening to her makes. Sense right and the thing about
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it is she was on what was it the UN or something so they haven't
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heard her before talk about relations within the worlds of
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coming together. So it's not like this the first
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time they ever hear her speak, right?
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Like she's a leading person. I want to say woman.
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She's a leading person in that on that earth.
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Yeah. But what you should not do is
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watch this movie and go watch the original Fantastic Four.
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Don't do that, Michelle. Just don't do it.
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This does have to do with that version of Sue.
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It's the versions of everyone, yeah.
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Well, Ben is Michael Chukas was was OK as Ben it was.
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Like. Yeah, it was relatively the
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same. Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, yes, I can see that. No, but of course, it was a
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different time, too. Yeah.
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It was in the, what, 90s, early 2000.
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But France, it was more of a sexualized version because, I
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mean, one, it was Jessica Alba. Jessica Alba was in her prime at
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that time. Like she was the hot thing
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everywhere. So they really were sexualizing
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her. But nowadays, in 2025, you're
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not going to really be able to do that because, you know, times
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have changed, attitudes have changed, and women don't want to
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be objectified like that, right? And now I'm not and understand
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that. However, I'm typically always
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going to favor the old shows. But in this case, I was like, Oh
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yeah, they really did the characters well in the new
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Fantastic Four First steps, looking how the old, I mean,
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it's 2005, whatever period. It's just how they did the
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characters. I love Chris Evans.
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He should have never been Johnny Storm.
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That wasn't really great because he was not when you rewatch it.
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I didn't really care about him when I first saw it, but we
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watch now. I'm like, man, I really don't
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like this Johnny like this Johnny gave this, Johnny gave
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Ben, even though he was there for him.
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He gave Ben a just it was harsh to the point with later they had
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to explain to him. He he he does care about you.
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He's kind of jealous that you found the love and he can't
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find, you know, but. He literally bullies him.
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And all the way to the end, right up to the end.
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And then they make a change. Yeah.
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But the other thing about that version of Fantastic Four and
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this version, I feel like the earlier version, we saw that
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they were younger and that Johnny was younger and more
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immature. I feel like in this version
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they're a little bit older and more mature.
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Like even Sue, Sue as a mother, Sue is, you know, about.
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Yeah, but. Johnny in this one's first step
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seems younger than Johnny in the first one.
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You think so? Yeah, he is around the same age
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at least. Around the same age I think.
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He's A and we're not getting into the original Fantastic
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Four. I brought that up because in
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watching that, then I started to realize how I did appreciate
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Fantastic Four, the first steps that it wasn't meh, an average
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OK, because then I start pulling out like different stuff that
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Mike said that I truly enjoyed. And then going back and talking
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to Anthony about how realistic this is to the characters in the
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comic book. I was like, oh, so this is
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actually really good. And it's, it's just like Captain
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America, the first one, because the first one I was like, OK.
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And then now I mean, like I don't that and The Winter
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Soldier I'm I can constantly watch.
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So I can appreciate it from even watching the other ones.
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And then I tried to watch the one from a few years ago and
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then I couldn't make it past 15 minutes.
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So I was like, OK, just just turn the TV off.
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That's a totally different. I was like and I told you to
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compare and you do need to see it but I couldn't even rewatch
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it. To be honest, it's forgettable.
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It's really forgettable. And it's a shame because Michael
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B Jordan's in it. See, this is what happens when
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Michael B Jordan's in a movie that doesn't have Ryan Coogler
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involved in it. It's like exactly what happens.
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He needs to stick with Ryan Coogler.
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Like, like, they're conjoined twins.
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Yeah. It's like.
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But yeah, that Fantastic Four movie was just forgettable.
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I mean, it's like, I mean, before the cast that it had, it
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should have been way better. Yeah.
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Like, yeah. Because it wasn't Miles Tellery.
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Miles Teller was. Yes, he was.
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He was OK so way. Better than it was, but it
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wasn't so. So I can see these characters
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moving forward very, you know, hopeful for what's to come,
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right with this Fantastic Four, especially again, after watching
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the previous ones. And also about about your point
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on the origin story. It's just like everybody says,
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there's only so many times we need to see Thomas Wayne and
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Thomas Wayne and and Martin get killed.
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Yeah, there's only so many times we need to see Krypton
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destroyed. So many times we need to see
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Uncle Ben die is like we only all didn't like we only see none
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of that. And that's what and if we once
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we talk about the Superman movies, like Superman movie did
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the same thing. And I'm glad they that they
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handled that the way they did too.
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It's like I think they're there's they're getting to the
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point where like they're realizing that OK, y'all know
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the deal. So we'll just we'll just get to
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what we need to get to. And I really appreciate that
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because it it kind of gets you into the story and gives them
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gives them more time with the story too.
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Because if you don't, if you don't spend like 20, like 1520,
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thirty minutes in the beginning of a movie setting up what
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happened to what happened to his character in order to turn them
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into the superhero that they are.
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Then you can spend that use that time to build the plot or to
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other things going to have to deal with the movie.
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As opposed to say, OK, this is the origin story.
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We're going to show it in a different way.
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Like you're going to show it from this angle.
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So it's like, you know, yeah, you actually, you actually get
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more information that way. Right.
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I just want to go back to my thing about Captain America the
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First Avenger. So yeah, I, I did kind of have
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that same initial feeling that I have for Captain America First
00:21:40
Avenger. However, the longer I sit with
00:21:44
it and like with Captain America First Avenger, I watched, the
00:21:49
more I watched it, the more I liked it.
00:21:51
And it's actually now it went from one of my least favorite to
00:21:55
one of my favourites, MVMC. And I kind of feel like this may
00:21:59
happen with Fantastic Four, because the more I sit with it,
00:22:02
the more I think about it, the more I'm like, you know what?
00:22:04
I actually kind of like it. I'm kind of the opposite of
00:22:09
y'all. I actually like the first act.
00:22:11
I know it was kind of slow, but I I liked, I liked it.
00:22:14
Too, Yeah. I like all the characterization
00:22:17
and, and, and them talking was a lot of exposition.
00:22:21
It was a lot. And he got better with the
00:22:23
second act with Galactus and I was like, OK, this is really
00:22:27
cool because like Mike said, he was amazing.
00:22:29
He was great. Third act.
00:22:32
I kind of feel like the movie kind of let me down.
00:22:34
So maybe if I watch it more I would like the last third of the
00:22:38
movie, but I didn't. I didn't care as much about that
00:22:43
part of the movie. I hated Reed Richardson, the
00:22:46
third in the third part. You know I was.
00:22:48
Also so certain that he was just going to hit that he like when
00:22:51
he hesitated, when they when she was like, I'm not giving up our
00:22:54
baby and he was just like, well, he's like, he's like you thought
00:22:59
about it. He's like, I think about
00:23:00
everything. I'm like, that's not a fucking
00:23:02
excuse. No, but see, you know what for
00:23:05
for the for the character that he is and what I do know of his
00:23:09
character and even what they explained in the movie, he is
00:23:12
one of those people. He thinks about all the
00:23:14
possibilities, even the ones that are horrible.
00:23:18
And I think that's something kind of I I feel like that's
00:23:24
what you should do. You have to look at everything
00:23:26
from every angle. Now, just because he thought
00:23:29
about it doesn't mean that he was contemplating it.
00:23:33
It's two different things and I think that's what.
00:23:35
People, I agree. Are are misunderstanding?
00:23:39
They're like, oh, you thought about it so you were going to do
00:23:41
it. No, that's not the case.
00:23:43
You have to think about OK, so if it comes down to blah blah
00:23:46
blah blah blah, what are the like?
00:23:49
What are the these are these are the actual.
00:23:52
Options, right? One of them is my kid, I can't
00:23:56
deny that right? But before we.
00:23:58
Know when we're not about. To do this, hold on, hold on
00:24:01
before we get into those weeds. My issue with the third act is
00:24:09
really because y'all know how my brain works.
00:24:12
I started thinking about the logistics of the plan and I'm
00:24:17
like OK the kumbaya. We are the world hands across
00:24:20
America. You know, everybody's going to
00:24:22
turn lights off because, you know, I, I, I couldn't get with
00:24:27
that. I, I just couldn't get with
00:24:29
that. It it, it didn't.
00:24:31
It took a it took a lot for me to suspend my belief.
00:24:35
OK. I'm sorry, I know, I know.
00:24:37
They're like, oh, the world is going to die if you don't have
00:24:39
together. I still.
00:24:42
They really know the world's going to die.
00:24:43
I have no faith in humanity. But OK, OK, I got, I got a
00:24:48
counterpoint for that one. But you know, the world was.
00:24:51
Going to die, I was. Telling you that's how I feel
00:24:53
now, in the moment. I get you.
00:24:55
Because I'm looking at this like we know that that there's going
00:24:59
to be at least a third of the world that's going to look at
00:25:02
this and be like, this ain't going to work out and they're
00:25:05
not going to participate. That's what I was talking about
00:25:08
with this. Particular right and the time
00:25:11
period different the time period.
00:25:14
I'm just. Saying and they saw.
00:25:15
It they didn't they didn't sell me on that because of how
00:25:19
quickly they turned on the Fantastic Four so I I can be
00:25:23
selling that they could have this kumbaya moment so that I
00:25:27
mean, I know her, her speech they.
00:25:29
Didn't turn on the Fantastic Four.
00:25:31
They just was like, it's your child, not ours, and we want to
00:25:36
save the planet, so they wanted to.
00:25:38
Save the planet. Yeah, right.
00:25:40
And they wanted to save the. Plan they.
00:25:42
Didn't want to die. Issue with the third act was I
00:25:46
just had a hard time buying into it.
00:25:49
I don't. I wasn't quite sold.
00:25:52
I'm just trying to sell you. They saw I'm I'm with.
00:25:56
Michelle on this right, it's a different.
00:25:58
I understand, but I. Didn't they?
00:26:02
Didn't. I'm just helping sell it to you.
00:26:04
First of all, it's different if you say the world's going to end
00:26:06
and and they say it, they come off the spaceship, the world is
00:26:09
going to end. They're like, well, nothing has
00:26:12
happened. I mean, today is Tuesday.
00:26:14
Tomorrow's Wednesday. Yeah, but it's something about a
00:26:17
silver woman coming out. Right.
00:26:18
They actually saw something. Things was happening.
00:26:26
Things were happening. You don't have to turn this
00:26:28
podcast into this convenience, Samson, you've got the third act
00:26:31
is good. I got you guys.
00:26:33
I understand. But I have to do that point
00:26:35
because somebody else may feel the same way.
00:26:37
You guys think this is different, Time is different,
00:26:41
the people are different, and they actually saw that their
00:26:45
world was in peril. It wasn't a it's, I saw it on
00:26:49
the news, but it's not affecting anything around me.
00:26:51
They saw it. That woman said I'm coming the
00:26:53
the planet is going to end and then the smartest person in the
00:26:56
world is looking like this on the news.
00:26:59
I don't know what to do right. Then you're like, we're screwed.
00:27:05
Again, if I. We can only do this if we all
00:27:09
work together. If we all don't work together,
00:27:12
we're screwed. Do you want to be the one in 5B
00:27:16
building who don't turn off their light?
00:27:18
No, because. You know what?
00:27:20
Because I'm going to be that person that's going to come to
00:27:22
1B and kick your ass and turn your life.
00:27:25
So we all going to work together because it's not going to be me.
00:27:28
Everybody look at it like, see, our plan is dying and it was
00:27:30
your fault you had to watch your television show.
00:27:34
Again, maybe if I watch it a couple more times I might be on
00:27:40
board, but as it stands right now, Galactus is the thing that
00:27:46
kind of saves. That last act, OK, OK, OK.
00:27:50
Now, while I understood what you guys were saying, and I agree,
00:27:55
Reed needed to put his words, needed to put those words
00:27:58
together better. Like if he if he was just
00:28:01
planning it, I get that that that's cool.
00:28:03
Like he thinks about a million different things when I think of
00:28:07
two, I totally get that he's the smartest person in the world.
00:28:10
Smart people think constantly. I get that.
00:28:14
It's just that he I guess that's what but see this piece into the
00:28:19
stereotype that smart people don't have social skills.
00:28:22
You know, I'm saying this like where they don't know how to
00:28:24
express themselves. They don't know how to talk.
00:28:26
They don't know how to get their ideas across.
00:28:27
They're just smart. But did you?
00:28:29
See Reid throughout the whole movie.
00:28:31
He kind. Of that's what I'm saying that.
00:28:33
Way. Yeah, yeah.
00:28:34
You don't have. They don't have.
00:28:37
It he was teaching theoretical physics to kids and they were
00:28:39
like falling asleep on him and he was just like y'all blow shit
00:28:42
up, yay. But that was.
00:28:45
That was he read the room then. Yeah, yeah.
00:28:48
But but it's like the whole thing is like he didn't read the
00:28:51
room because he would have known that his wife was about was
00:28:53
about to put him in the force field and shrink him.
00:28:56
But. Well, also you got to think
00:28:58
about this. He doesn't have to have that
00:29:01
mask on when he's with her. So she allows him the space to
00:29:05
think and to say comments out of, you know, out of his
00:29:10
thinking where he doesn't have to make sure that it's said a
00:29:14
certain way to people around him.
00:29:16
He's his safe space so he said said it like he would normally
00:29:21
have seen it around her. She was also in her feelings too
00:29:24
though. Yeah, but but that's the thing.
00:29:26
He didn't understand that's what happened.
00:29:28
She said, she basically said, oh, this is what you're thinking
00:29:31
about. She was like because she.
00:29:33
I know because. She know, yeah.
00:29:34
Because she know, Yeah. So, yeah, but again, it's just
00:29:39
kind of like you, I mean, OK, let's let's let's talk about,
00:29:43
you know, you're talking about like when they when they first
00:29:46
went to meet Galactus, and Galactus was like, OK, so I'll
00:29:51
save your planet. You just got to give me your
00:29:52
child. And all of them were like, oh,
00:29:55
hell no, this is not happening. And so when they came back to
00:29:58
Earth and they told the people, well, yeah, that's what he
00:30:01
wanted, our child. And they were like, and you
00:30:03
didn't give them up. Both Reed and her were looking
00:30:06
at them like, are you fucking kidding me right now?
00:30:09
Like, are you going to give up your child?
00:30:11
If, if, if it was your child, would you give up your child to
00:30:14
save the world? And I mean, I literally was
00:30:16
sitting there thinking about The Last of Us, because it's almost
00:30:20
the same decision. Like, am I going to give up this
00:30:22
child to save the rest of the world?
00:30:24
Absolutely not. I stole my line for later
00:30:27
because people were Pascal once again, but.
00:30:30
That's what I thought about, you know, I was.
00:30:32
Thinking about nobody else thinking.
00:30:33
About nobody. Else.
00:30:34
But you know what could have saved all of this?
00:30:37
Why the hell you get off the space shuttle and say it?
00:30:43
One child. Well, I think they're used to
00:30:45
being transparent. No, he was saying he wasn't even
00:30:47
thinking this is something we may need to go to the house and
00:30:50
have a conversation with everyone's not like us.
00:30:52
Let's figure this out. And then we come back to the
00:30:55
public, not saying, oh, he just wanted our I think, I think.
00:30:57
They've always operated. I think they've always operated
00:31:01
with being open. And honest and.
00:31:03
Transparent no, and I'm just being funny that they that's the
00:31:06
one the one time. But I mean, that's the whole
00:31:10
reason why, that's the whole reason why the thing came up
00:31:12
about his thoughts. Like he could have easily lied
00:31:15
and said, no, I didn't think that.
00:31:17
But she knows him. She knows him better than
00:31:19
anyone. So that's a group.
00:31:22
Even though her brother and and his best friend, they were they
00:31:25
were both horrified. But she was like, no, I know
00:31:28
you. This is what you thought he was
00:31:29
like, yeah, I thought it. But, you know, not like, I'm
00:31:32
actually going to do it. But I'm.
00:31:34
I'm looking at all the possibilities.
00:31:37
And that's the smart thing to do.
00:31:39
I mean, similar to what Doctor Strange did.
00:31:41
Doctor Strange looked at every single possibility when they
00:31:44
were fighting Thanos. And he was like, OK, yeah, I see
00:31:47
all of them, but there's only one that's going to work.
00:31:49
And the one that's going to work took the leader, took the
00:31:53
basically the most important person out of the group out of
00:31:56
the equation because he had to sacrifice himself.
00:31:59
That was something he saw he knew was going to happen.
00:32:02
Didn't mean he didn't mean he had to like it, but he knew, OK,
00:32:07
if we're going to win this thing, this is the one thing
00:32:10
that has to happen. Reed probably thought that, too.
00:32:13
Like, the only way we really are going to win this is if we give
00:32:16
him our child. But I'm not willing to do that.
00:32:18
So what else can we do? And then you use that as
00:32:22
motivation to try to figure out any other way to beat this man.
00:32:28
Even if you got to come up with a convoluted plan like setting
00:32:31
up these powers, power stations all around the world to try to
00:32:36
move the planet. Like, yes, it's a Hail Mary.
00:32:40
Yes, it's probably the most unrealistic fucking thing I have
00:32:44
ever heard of. But you know.
00:32:47
Utterly unrealistic. But you know what else do you?
00:32:50
Know what? A 2% difference.
00:32:54
They said it in the movie, but here's the thing.
00:32:57
That is something that was completely and utterly
00:32:59
unrealistic. You know what else was
00:33:01
unrealistic for Reed? Having to give up his son.
00:33:05
So if you got to choose between one of those two, guess what?
00:33:09
I'm going to do the stupid plan. I'm going to do the unrealistic
00:33:12
plan because ain't no way in hell you're about to get to get
00:33:14
your hands on my child, period, point blank.
00:33:18
So yeah, but there. Was a moot point that like this
00:33:23
was coming for that child, won't we or another?
00:33:26
Yeah, yeah. All I know is that how we how we
00:33:31
gonna there, there are certain parts of the world where I
00:33:34
wouldn't try. I wouldn't have trusted their
00:33:36
craftsmanship in making that shit 'cause this shit we would
00:33:39
have been blinking like the globe in Times Square would.
00:33:42
Like part of it working and part of it part of it flashing and
00:33:45
not working. What's that?
00:33:46
I don't think that's fair to say because you got to have smart
00:33:52
people in every society. They may not be as advanced as
00:33:55
we are over here. They may not have all the
00:33:57
resources and the luxuries, but there's.
00:34:01
I'm not, I'm not even talking about that.
00:34:03
I'm not talking, I'm not talking about resources.
00:34:05
I'm talking, I'm talking about like, like competent people,
00:34:09
like like company people following, being able to follow
00:34:12
those directions. That's a lot.
00:34:14
That was a. Competent people who weren't in
00:34:16
that area, maybe they were somewhere else and they went to
00:34:18
that area. I mean they.
00:34:20
Didn't have that much time. They had enough time to build.
00:34:25
Did you see those towers? Did you see those towers?
00:34:27
They had enough time to build those.
00:34:28
OK. They didn't have enough time to
00:34:30
have people jumping from place to place to to quality check.
00:34:33
All of them, though, they didn't have that much time.
00:34:37
They had a little bit, had some time.
00:34:38
They didn't have that much time. I mean, this is a more advanced
00:34:41
civilization than we're seeing on our Earth.
00:34:45
Please send your emails to EMC. Who who you told who you told
00:34:52
that to Earth 828 AM I am I going to get am I going to get
00:34:56
get like multi get multiversal emails?
00:34:58
Now? I ain't trying to see all that
00:35:00
shit. I got.
00:35:00
I got enough bullshit in my damn in my I.
00:35:02
Mean if they do, maybe they're going to take you and move you
00:35:05
2% to the left. The the views expressed by the
00:35:09
White. Not.
00:35:11
Reflective of the other members of the family.
00:35:14
Have a podcast. I have full faith in anybody
00:35:18
anywhere in this world to do quality work.
00:35:20
I'm not talking about this one, I'm talking about 828.
00:35:23
OK, then I'll put it like this, and this is what Michelle and I
00:35:26
said. You can probably be the most,
00:35:29
most lackluster person. You can be the person who
00:35:32
probably don't get it straight. You, probably the person who
00:35:34
reads something, be like what? When you find out that your
00:35:39
survival is dependent on you getting this shit right, you
00:35:45
will become a fucking rocket scientist in a short amount of
00:35:50
time because you're going to do whatever you have to do to
00:35:54
survive. If that means that right now I
00:35:56
need to go and learn quantum physics so that 2448 hours from
00:36:02
now I can go build whatever I'm going to be sitting right here
00:36:05
studying. Y'all ain't going to see hide
00:36:08
nor hair of me because I'm going to be in this book making sure I
00:36:12
understand whatever it is I need to do to keep myself alive.
00:36:17
I'm just saying death is a powerful motivator when you have
00:36:22
no other options, right? Your own personal death.
00:36:26
Yeah. See.
00:36:27
OK, now, now, now you can give them my e-mail because I don't,
00:36:30
I don't think there are a lot of people in this world that would
00:36:32
be able to do that. Shit.
00:36:33
But again, like you just said, we're not talking about this
00:36:35
world. We're talking about Earth, Earth
00:36:37
828. We're talking about a.
00:36:39
Civil It's a moot point because the Civil Surfer destroyed them
00:36:42
all, so. That shit was I, I, I, I loved
00:36:47
Ed, hated that moment because they were like, OK, get ready,
00:36:50
it's going to work. Then all of a sudden, like, huh?
00:36:54
Like this bitch? She was flying through all that.
00:36:59
Hard work for nothing. Nothing.
00:37:02
All those nights and days of no power.
00:37:07
Well, she didn't know, all she had to do is destroy one, but
00:37:10
the whole plan fell apart. She was like, no, she double
00:37:14
tapped and triple tapped and quadruple tapped.
00:37:16
And just making sure, just making sure she was.
00:37:18
Like, yeah, she, she did that to prove to make things a point.
00:37:21
She's like Tim, how about she was like, she's like a cat.
00:37:24
She's like, they knocked this over.
00:37:26
Not that over. Not that over.
00:37:28
Yes. And look and look at you all
00:37:30
look at you while she doing it. Yeah, she had to make sure.
00:37:36
She had to make them feel the despair of damn it, I did all
00:37:40
this work for nothing. Like that's what you're supposed
00:37:45
to do when you're about to destroy Earth.
00:37:48
If she waited, if she waited till the last minute.
00:37:51
She waited until they supposed to do it.
00:37:53
Until they flipped. This week it's like she's.
00:37:55
Sitting there watching them build it.
00:37:57
Just watching them build it. Oh, they're about to flip the
00:37:59
switch. OK.
00:38:01
And this look like this may work right?
00:38:03
And and that's what you're supposed to do.
00:38:05
If you're that person, if you're the villain, if you're the one
00:38:08
that's supposed to bring misery and despair to everyone, that is
00:38:13
what you do. So she did what she was supposed
00:38:16
to do. Yeah, You know, we don't have to
00:38:19
like it, but she did what she was supposed to do.
00:38:22
Yeah, I want to. I want to shout out to all the
00:38:25
sexist, dumb ass motherfuckers who thought that this Silver
00:38:27
Surfer wasn't going to be good because she was one of the
00:38:30
highlights of the movie for me, I thought.
00:38:33
And the way that her and Johnny interacted was was actually a
00:38:36
refreshing part of part of the movie for me about how Johnny
00:38:40
figured out her language and they went through her back
00:38:42
story, which was actually actually pretty cool.
00:38:46
Kind of heartbreaking, but I really appreciated her.
00:38:50
And of course, the visuals were just fucking incredible.
00:38:53
Yeah. Yeah, they were.
00:38:55
But yeah, she her. Her back story kind of reminded
00:38:58
me of Gomorrah and Thanos. Like, it's literally almost the
00:39:04
same thing, you know, except Thanos.
00:39:08
Thanos did kill everyone on her planet and just took her because
00:39:12
he was like, oh, she'll be a good daughter.
00:39:15
Let me brainwash her. But you know, it, it, it has
00:39:18
some similarities. And I like the way that they
00:39:21
told it. Going back to what Michelle was
00:39:23
saying. As far as the, the different
00:39:25
portrayals of, of Johnny, I did like Joseph's version of Johnny
00:39:30
because Chris's version of Johnny.
00:39:34
Johnny was kind of sort of like, I mean, again, it was 90s.
00:39:39
He was very much a horn dog. He was very much the
00:39:41
inappropriate jokes, the kind of, you know, almost creep vibe
00:39:47
because he was just trying to, you know, trying to get with
00:39:50
someone and just the weird flirting.
00:39:53
This version of Johnny was not that way.
00:39:56
Like, yes, he was still lonely and he still made the just like,
00:40:00
Oh yeah, yeah, she's is is that what you know what?
00:40:04
What was it that he said something about the the
00:40:07
surfboard like? Oh, was he a part of your body?
00:40:11
Yeah. There was a part of your body,
00:40:12
and I was like, please, let's not do this.
00:40:14
But he didn't overdo it. No, what I'm saying.
00:40:17
And then when it got to the point where he started putting
00:40:23
things together, like he was like, OK, something about this
00:40:25
sounds something like this. And he started actually doing
00:40:31
his work. I was like, OK, I like the way
00:40:34
that they're portraying him because they're making it seem
00:40:37
like, yeah, he's the jokester. He's this, but he's also very
00:40:40
serious. He's like, smart and smart.
00:40:42
Yeah, that looks like that's smart.
00:40:45
Nobody else is paying attention to this.
00:40:47
Everybody else is doing this. So somebody needs to be doing
00:40:50
this. Let me work on this.
00:40:52
And he figured it out and, like, told them about it.
00:40:56
He was able to to actually use that to get through to her.
00:41:00
You know, I was like, I I like this, this version of him.
00:41:04
He's not, he's not overly arrogant.
00:41:07
He's not brash. He's not, you know, he's not the
00:41:10
type of person who's just going to ignore what other people are
00:41:13
telling him. Like he was none of that.
00:41:15
And I thought that was very refreshing for his character,
00:41:19
you know? I did too, because it made me
00:41:21
realize why he was chosen to go on the mission that changed
00:41:26
them, if that makes sense. Because in in the again, the
00:41:30
previous movies, well, the first, you know, the first
00:41:33
group, I didn't understand why Johnny, OK, nepotism.
00:41:40
That's what I just thought it was like, oh, that's how, you
00:41:42
know, he wanted to go to space. That's you know what I'm saying?
00:41:44
That's her brother and stuff. But.
00:41:46
Take your brother with you. Right.
00:41:49
Even least in the second with Michael B Jordan, they did talk
00:41:53
about how he was smart. So we got a little bit of that,
00:41:56
but I really enjoyed this. Like he he holds his own.
00:41:59
He's not just Sue's brother and he just came on his mission.
00:42:03
He was there for a a reason. 'Cause in the intro didn't read
00:42:07
say he chose the smartest people he knew, which was his family.
00:42:11
Yeah, they it was like they just happen to be family, you know,
00:42:15
my my brother-in-law, my wife and my best friend.
00:42:17
But. And I and I like that way even
00:42:19
being like Ben is the pilot, like he was a great pilot and
00:42:24
you need that in the first movie.
00:42:27
I wasn't when I rewatched. Kind of sure.
00:42:29
I think they mentioned it and the latest Fantastic Four before
00:42:35
first steps. Ben was just you don't watch it,
00:42:38
but Ben was just his friend because you know, he got bullied
00:42:41
read. So he had a friend who would
00:42:44
beat people up and the friend end up going.
00:42:48
OK. Yeah.
00:42:49
And this one. So then that was Ben.
00:42:50
So Ben wasn't there because he was great pilot or he was smart.
00:42:54
He just end up happy to go. I think in this one they were.
00:42:57
It was almost like they were trying to make him sort of like
00:43:00
an astronaut because those guys, the astronauts, really smart.
00:43:04
Right, because the especially if they're a pilot because they
00:43:07
were pilots, you know. Yeah.
00:43:10
And I and not a Delta Airlines not.
00:43:14
A delta? More.
00:43:14
Yeah. More, yeah.
00:43:16
Yeah, they. Were an astronaut.
00:43:17
That's Delta. Yeah, yeah.
00:43:20
But that's the other thing that I really, really liked about
00:43:24
this film was their focus on family.
00:43:27
Because again, yes, you could have brought them in.
00:43:29
Oh yeah, that's my brother-in-law.
00:43:31
That's my best friend or whatever.
00:43:33
But it's almost like those two things were afterthoughts
00:43:37
because, yes, he picked the smartest people and they just
00:43:41
happened to be like, Reed just happens to surround himself with
00:43:44
with smart people and he married into him and he has one for the
00:43:49
best friend. But I liked the way that they
00:43:52
told that story because it was like, you know, you see the
00:43:56
really warm relationship between Sue and Johnny and even the kind
00:44:01
of teasing relationship with Johnny and Reed because, yeah,
00:44:04
Reed is the the more serious of the group.
00:44:07
You know, he's the one that's always thinking about the, the,
00:44:11
the possibilities and all of this stuff.
00:44:13
And, you know, he's the one that worries the most because, again,
00:44:17
he's the smartest one in the room.
00:44:18
So he probably worries about things most people don't even
00:44:22
think about, you know, because he knows that those
00:44:26
possibilities exist. But even with that, you see how
00:44:31
important Sue is to him. You see how important the baby
00:44:33
is to him. And you know, Ben and and Johnny
00:44:38
and it takes all of that as far as that family dynamic and, and
00:44:44
how close they are to each other, how well they know each
00:44:47
other in the end to, to do what it is that they do.
00:44:52
And I, I like seeing that because we, I mean, we get that
00:44:55
with you do get that with The Avengers and all, some of the
00:45:00
other, you know, characters that we've seen.
00:45:03
But aside from Wanda and Pietro, I don't think we've really seen
00:45:10
family members in the same group, Wanda and Pietro and then
00:45:14
maybe later on Natasha and Yelena.
00:45:18
But other than that, we don't really.
00:45:20
See. Yeah, Black Panther.
00:45:23
Yeah, Black Panther, Monica Rambo and her mom.
00:45:27
But but you can't count that one.
00:45:29
They aren't they they really not the guest because.
00:45:31
It's because it's different generations, like Monica was a
00:45:34
hero and then she died and then or no, excuse me, Maria, Maria
00:45:40
was, you know, she was the firefighter, pilot, whatever.
00:45:43
She died and then Monica became who she was.
00:45:48
But you don't. It's almost rare that you see
00:45:50
them side by side. And technically speaking, surely
00:45:55
I wasn't. I didn't consider her a
00:45:57
superhero until she donned a Black Panther suit.
00:46:00
She was, she was another smart scientist, you know what I'm
00:46:03
saying? But she wasn't, she didn't have
00:46:04
superpowers, she didn't have special abilities.
00:46:07
She was just smart as hell and could really, you know, fix some
00:46:12
some amazing armor and some amazing weapons.
00:46:15
But I'm talking about as far as heroes, you know what I'm
00:46:18
saying? But no.
00:46:19
Because I will consider that to be a hero.
00:46:21
She helped the group. Well, superheroes, that's what I
00:46:24
meant to say. Superheroes.
00:46:26
Yes, she but. Yeah, but I understand what
00:46:29
you're saying. But it was a high emphasis on
00:46:31
family. And I think I I did like that
00:46:34
because they had great chemistry as a family.
00:46:38
Yeah, and that even that even is off screen because I've watched,
00:46:43
I've probably watched every press junkie interview that they
00:46:47
have done. They have amazing chemistry with
00:46:50
each other and you can tell that they genuinely care about each
00:46:55
other just in the way the way that they react, interact with
00:46:58
each other, but also in their body language with each other.
00:47:01
And I think that came across a lot on screen.
00:47:04
Like you could see these are people who really would fight
00:47:07
for each other and die for each other.
00:47:08
Right. Or make fun of each other and
00:47:10
laugh because there's one interview where and I'm not
00:47:14
going to say his real name because I'm end up calling him
00:47:17
Eddie. But Joseph, yeah, Joseph had I
00:47:21
don't know what the interviewer had asked a question and then he
00:47:25
turned and he fade a face which calls being to like just die
00:47:31
laughing while D. Vanessa.
00:47:34
Was talking like, what's going on?
00:47:35
He was like, oh, he making faces get he's like, it stopped me,
00:47:39
but it was funny. Because I made the face 5
00:47:41
minutes ago and he's still laughing.
00:47:42
Still laughing, but he still turned again at him.
00:47:45
He's still you know continue laughing so you can tell that
00:47:48
they had them relationship. As far as the third act goes,
00:47:56
Anthony, I'm going to say my favorite Part 1 of the things
00:48:02
that I did not expect. And again, going back to what I
00:48:05
know of Fantastic Four, I didn't know until we had like just
00:48:10
conversations about how powerful Sue actually is.
00:48:15
And I love the fact that they kind of showed that, especially
00:48:18
towards the end, like she didn't have to depend on anybody else.
00:48:22
Like she was strong in her own right.
00:48:24
You know, she was holding off galaxies.
00:48:26
And I love the, the, the other thing I really loved about it is
00:48:31
the focus that they had on motherhood and how powerful that
00:48:35
just that alone is. Because really, if you think
00:48:40
about it, in the NCU, the only other example we have of
00:48:44
motherhood is Wanda. And yes, Wanda is strong.
00:48:49
She cares about her kids in a in a totally different way.
00:48:54
But going back to our conversations about whether or
00:48:57
not people actually watch the Disney Plus streaming shows and
00:49:00
the MCU, if you didn't watch watch one Division, you would
00:49:04
have no connection to her journey as a mother.
00:49:07
So I, I was thinking about that to that was like multiverse of
00:49:11
madness probably was weird for some people if they didn't watch
00:49:14
Wanda vision because they're like, OK, where do these two
00:49:16
kids come from? And why is she, you know what
00:49:20
I'm saying? Oh, you, you get that one
00:49:23
version of of mother who would wander and we saw that version
00:49:27
quickly went toxic because she lost her children.
00:49:31
Man, she kind of gave up the good parts of her trying to get
00:49:34
them back. On the other hand, with Sue
00:49:38
Storm or Sue Richards, we see motherhood being shed in a very
00:49:44
different light, very positive light.
00:49:47
You see her being very protective.
00:49:48
No, I'm not giving up my child for y'all, but that doesn't mean
00:49:52
that I don't love you guys and I'm not going to fight for you.
00:49:55
I'm just not about to give up this.
00:49:58
Especially someone who has been trying for three years to have a
00:50:01
child and you just want her to give.
00:50:04
Excuse me? No, absolutely not.
00:50:07
But you see her power in that and how she uses that to kind of
00:50:11
sway the other people. And then towards the end, when
00:50:14
Galactus has the baby, she gives her all literally so that she
00:50:22
can fight this thing off, defeat it and save her child.
00:50:26
I love that about this movie because you don't really get to
00:50:29
see motherhood served up as heroism very much a superhero
00:50:36
movies. So I loved it.
00:50:39
Like I did not think I I did not know going into this movie that
00:50:44
she was going to become my favorite character because of
00:50:47
course, yeah, I'm on I'm on team Pedro.
00:50:49
I'm I'm like, OK, re riches, whatever.
00:50:51
Like I'm kind of on the on the character, but you know, it's
00:50:56
it's Pedro. No Vanessa Kirby, like literally
00:51:00
from the time she got on the screen and I've not seen her in
00:51:03
anything else. I know she was in The Crown but
00:51:04
I haven't watched the Crown. She.
00:51:07
Was in Hopsin too. She was in what?
00:51:10
The fantastic The Fast and Furious Hopsin Shaw Movie.
00:51:13
Yeah, she was in Mission Impossible.
00:51:16
OK, but yeah, she was, she's Shaw's sister.
00:51:21
And I was like, OK, that's why I know her from.
00:51:23
But in this movie, from the moment she got on the screen,
00:51:28
just the way that the way she carried herself, the way she was
00:51:32
loyal to her husband and to her family and the way that she the
00:51:37
way that they just kind of portrayed her character.
00:51:40
I really respected her character and like, she became one of my
00:51:45
favorite characters. And then also Vanessa Kirby is
00:51:47
so fucking easy on the eyes. I was like, I did not know this
00:51:50
woman was so gorgeous. What?
00:51:53
She's gorgeous. And, you know, just, yeah, the
00:51:58
whole thing about her as motherhood personified as a
00:52:02
superhero, that's not something I'm used to seeing.
00:52:05
And it was just, for me, it was so refreshing.
00:52:08
And then also, it was very inspiring because she literally
00:52:12
showed, yeah, I can do all these things at once.
00:52:15
I can be a mother and be protective of him.
00:52:17
And I can still go out and save the world and, and keep my
00:52:21
morals and keep my, you know, keep everything that's me.
00:52:27
Me. I don't have to compromise
00:52:28
myself in order to be these two, you know, these two separate
00:52:32
means. I love seeing that.
00:52:35
Yeah. I really love the way that they
00:52:36
told that in in that story. And I totally agree because I
00:52:40
didn't realize how powerful she was because it's kind of it's
00:52:45
somewhat it is kind of downplayed because I'm not comic
00:52:49
book familiar. So it is kind of downplayed in
00:52:51
the other movies how powerful she is.
00:52:54
It's mentioned like in the other movies she mentioned, like with
00:52:59
Victor Doom, she mentioned she can put like a air bubble in his
00:53:02
head and kill him, but she didn't do it.
00:53:04
But in here you really knew how powerful she was and also how
00:53:10
strong she was. And she did not play because she
00:53:13
was on that show. Don't say killer.
00:53:15
Like, hold on a second, we ain't talking.
00:53:18
She had Johnny Killer. He was like, what?
00:53:22
She was. Excuse me?
00:53:23
She's trying to get your nephew killed.
00:53:25
Killer we don't have we don't have time for this.
00:53:28
Right. She was like, we're not, we're
00:53:30
not playing these games, no. So.
00:53:34
And and she's having full contractions and she can still
00:53:38
make the ship invisible, right? Right.
00:53:41
In full contraction, I'll be like.
00:53:42
Full contraction. She's the she's the bad ass bad.
00:53:45
Yeah, she's the top of my list. Second is the quiet place when
00:53:49
you're trying to have a baby and not make a sound and she now Sue
00:53:52
is at the top. Yeah.
00:53:55
Yeah, that concentration. Interesting that's to the fandom
00:54:00
wanted to play her in the first place.
00:54:03
Who? Emily Blunt.
00:54:05
Oh, OK. Yeah.
00:54:07
So yeah. So yeah, definitely.
00:54:10
Yeah, but no, I she. Was and she held her own like it
00:54:13
wasn't. And I know I'm not in
00:54:16
comparison, but if I only have to compare the movies, she held
00:54:19
her own. It's not like it's Reed and
00:54:22
everyone rotates around Reed like she has her own right on
00:54:27
her own. She stands her own, he pretty
00:54:29
much doing his mental math and mental things and she's like
00:54:34
going out and really working with the community and solving
00:54:38
real world problems here. I think they did a good job with
00:54:41
all of them with. That yeah, yeah, they did.
00:54:43
They were. All sort of their own.
00:54:46
Yeah, people and stuff and then. Even at the end when, when they
00:54:50
were doing the fighting, you know, Rita's so worried about
00:54:53
her and she was like, excuse me, I need you to go concentrate.
00:54:56
Go do this. Go do that like.
00:54:59
I got. This when he lost his focus, she
00:55:02
stepped in and she became the leader, she delegates.
00:55:04
She was like, OK, look, we don't have time for this.
00:55:08
If I die, you need to take care of you need to make sure you
00:55:10
save our son, you know, no hesitation, no nothing.
00:55:15
And I, I think that was something that was that that we
00:55:20
needed to see that, you know, she didn't have to depend on the
00:55:23
other people to come in and save her.
00:55:26
You know, even though, yes, she was, she was being, well, he was
00:55:30
the one that was actually being stretched, but she was being
00:55:32
stretched to her limits. And she was still like, don't
00:55:37
help me, go do this, Go do that. You go here, you go there.
00:55:41
I got this. And she really did.
00:55:43
Galactus is looking at her like, what the fuck is this?
00:55:47
What? How are you doing this and
00:55:50
defeating me, 'cause 'cause she she powerful?
00:55:55
Yeah. You know, and, and she didn't
00:55:58
need anybody to help her. She took care of Galactus.
00:56:02
You know, all she needed was somebody to go and tip him right
00:56:05
across the border, OK? Well, Reed was doing a pretty
00:56:10
good job until he got caught. Yeah, I mean, they all were.
00:56:14
But I mean, again, like you said, they did a very good job
00:56:19
of showcasing all of them that no, we didn't necessarily need
00:56:24
anybody else to help us do what we were doing, but they also did
00:56:27
a good job of showing, OK, teamwork is like literally
00:56:32
teamwork is dreamwork. So so Ben.
00:56:34
Ben got pimp slapped in the space.
00:56:39
Yeah, poor Ben. You're doing all like like that
00:56:44
hard, that hard select type beer that he.
00:56:46
Had I love it? I did.
00:56:51
You know what else I love? I just love how he how he was
00:56:54
always like Franklin. He always had Franklin.
00:56:57
So it's always yeah, he did. He was just so cute.
00:57:04
Yeah, because even when Johnny was getting ready, because I was
00:57:08
kind of like you, Mike, I was like, we are not about to lose
00:57:10
all these people. First of all, you stretch and
00:57:12
read to the point where he looks like Swiss cheese.
00:57:14
What? Stop.
00:57:16
Because that hurts. Like I'm sitting in my my seat
00:57:19
just like, oh, no, that hurts. And then when Johnny was getting
00:57:23
ready to do what he was going to do, he was like, tell Franklin
00:57:27
his uncle Johnny loves. Excuse me, Sir.
00:57:30
I'm not about to watch you die in something else.
00:57:32
Like I don't watch you die in Stranger Things.
00:57:34
I don't watch you die in Gladiator 2.
00:57:37
No, we're not doing. It all they had to do was give
00:57:39
him a get, give him a guitar solo when he was when he was
00:57:42
flying towards. We're not doing.
00:57:46
Like a guitar solo from Puppet Master of Puppets that'd.
00:57:50
Be awesome. But then with Sue at the end
00:57:53
like I was sitting there when she wasn't moving and and and
00:57:58
Reed is over her crying now I'm sitting in the theater.
00:58:01
I got tears coming down my eyes too.
00:58:03
But I'm like but I know she's not dead because she was
00:58:05
announced for doomsday so I know she's not dead but still I was
00:58:11
like OK so is it that she dies here and they bring her back in
00:58:14
doomsday? And then when Franklin was
00:58:16
sitting there fighting like basically give me my Mama.
00:58:19
I said oh he bout to bring her back to life.
00:58:22
Yeah. He bout to do this when he sat
00:58:24
down when they sat him on her chest.
00:58:27
And he's just looking at her. I said, yeah, he about to bring
00:58:30
her back to life. They really about to see how how
00:58:32
special this this little boy is. But then you had to then realize
00:58:37
what was going through her head and she's coming too 'cause then
00:58:41
you realize, oh shit, this motherfucker's powerful.
00:58:45
That and that's what she said when she woke up, she was like,
00:58:48
she was like he's he's it. It is not he.
00:58:51
He's more than us. He's Yeah, you've.
00:58:54
Been you've been going around trying to tell Reid he fine, he
00:58:57
good. You know, I love that scene when
00:58:59
she she concentrated where you could just see the baby.
00:59:02
He good. He's not he's like normal.
00:59:05
No, he's. Not.
00:59:06
No, he's not. No, he's not.
00:59:10
And I and I love the fact that that Reid was like, you know,
00:59:15
this whole time I've been trying to figure out what you are and
00:59:18
whether you have powers. You know what?
00:59:19
I'm going to stop looking. I'm just going to let you be who
00:59:21
you going to be. And you're going to tell me who
00:59:23
you are when you're ready to tell me what you are.
00:59:28
Because obviously that little boy was like, I'm not going to
00:59:31
show you nothing yet. I'm about to hide my powers.
00:59:36
Because also, if he shows his powers, then not just to his
00:59:42
parents, other people are going to see, you know what?
00:59:45
Other, you know what happens? Somebody's going to come like a
00:59:48
Galactus and be like, oh, this, this baby's powerful.
00:59:51
Yeah, I want him. We'll have some.
00:59:53
Cat. Franklin was like, look, I like
00:59:56
my crib, I like my car seat, I like my naps.
00:59:59
Leave me alone. I'm a normal baby.
01:00:02
You know, or like a certain Latverian dictator in the green
01:00:05
Greek that likes to wear green cloaks would just stop by, you
01:00:09
know, randomly. That was interesting, but.
01:00:14
Oh, before I forget, shout out to Paul Hauser AKA MO Man, one
01:00:21
of the one of the best B or C villain cameos in the MCU.
01:00:27
I. Was I was looking at this, I was
01:00:32
where he showed up on the screen and the fact that they made not
01:00:37
in the movie, but there was a there was a interview that Pedro
01:00:42
and Vanessa were doing and they were comparing themselves to the
01:00:46
Incredibles. And literally when MO man walked
01:00:49
up on I was like, am I watching the incredibles?
01:00:51
What the hell? Because I again, not not comic
01:00:55
book familiar. I didn't know about this
01:00:57
character, but he was so funny to me just in the way that he
01:01:04
reacted and man, he was like y'all like none of y'all
01:01:07
motherfuckers. But I talked to Sue like.
01:01:09
Like. I love how I love how he was.
01:01:13
He was telling all all the, all the people going down into into
01:01:16
his into his space. He was like.
01:01:18
Subterranean. Subterranean.
01:01:20
He was like, take off your shoes, right?
01:01:23
Like, excuse me, sorry, isn't your ground made of dirt?
01:01:28
It's hilarious, but it was also so funny because when they were
01:01:31
coming down there, he was acting like a tour guide.
01:01:33
Welcome to Subterranean. Welcome to the I was.
01:01:38
Like, great. Yeah, I I really like that part
01:01:41
of the movie. He was.
01:01:41
He was fine. Yeah, but I was sitting here
01:01:45
like, how in the world do you have a whole like how do you
01:01:50
build something like subterranean and and nobody
01:01:53
really notices up until you start doing some shit because
01:01:57
that was underground. This time, nobody noticed.
01:02:01
Yeah. Nobody's paying attention to
01:02:02
Underground. Yeah.
01:02:04
But you got to dig underground. You get like he's.
01:02:07
A mold man, he's a mold man. So if.
01:02:10
He's a mold man. I I guess.
01:02:13
You're looking. Elaborate about this.
01:02:16
He's an old man, he lives underground.
01:02:17
He builds an underground land, let's let him go.
01:02:20
Then he comes up and tries to take over the above land and
01:02:22
tries to and drops the Pan Am center.
01:02:25
Holy shit. Yes.
01:02:27
Yeah, yeah. They needed, they needed the
01:02:31
rooms. Yeah, he had to have.
01:02:36
It but yeah, I like I said, I I really felt like this was a fun
01:02:41
movie. It had it serious moments, but I
01:02:43
don't think it got overly serious, at least not for me.
01:02:48
I felt like it was I felt like it had a good pace to it even in
01:02:53
the beginning. Yes, like I said, it was slow,
01:02:55
but like you said, Anthony, it was exposition.
01:02:57
Even though you didn't give us the the origin origin story, you
01:03:01
were giving us a chance to learn who this family is and and
01:03:07
giving us a chance to connect with them so that when all this
01:03:11
stuff started happening, you know, we would feel it.
01:03:15
We would be like, oh, no, you're not about to take this baby.
01:03:17
Oh no, you're not about to. Like we were on their side.
01:03:21
And I think if they had done it a little bit differently, I
01:03:24
don't know, you know, I don't know if I think if they had, if
01:03:28
they had included the origin story, then it the movie would
01:03:32
have felt a little too long. I feel like it was kind of just
01:03:36
right. It didn't, it didn't drag
01:03:39
really, you know, it, it, it just slow and dragging are two
01:03:44
different things. When when you're slow, because
01:03:46
you're telling the story, you're giving us the background.
01:03:48
You're you're giving us the exposition.
01:03:51
I don't think it was, I don't think it was bad.
01:03:53
You know, I, I enjoyed it. I had, I had a lot of fun with
01:03:57
this movie. We we got to go see it with the
01:04:01
MCUATL group again. Shout out to them because they
01:04:05
have some of the best viewing parties.
01:04:08
We had a lot of fun, had a lot of cosplayers, a lot of
01:04:12
cosplayers. I think I've been going to some
01:04:14
of their screenings now for over a year consistently.
01:04:18
I think Fantastic Four was the one I've I've seen the most
01:04:22
cosplay and it was the the cosplay was amazing.
01:04:27
You had all, you have Fantastic Four, everything all around.
01:04:31
Like one girl was in there. She had on all silver
01:04:34
everything, even silver boots. I was like, you know what, y'all
01:04:39
did this, y'all came with your A game.
01:04:41
It was so much fun. So yeah, I enjoyed it.
01:04:47
And then, you know, Mike kind of touched upon this the, the post
01:04:50
credits. Well, the first post credits
01:04:52
scene, you know, you, you have I, I think they said it was like
01:04:56
4 years later, three years. Later.
01:05:00
Four years later and Sue was sitting there reading a kid book
01:05:05
to a now 4 year old Franklin and he wants to read another book.
01:05:08
She goes to the kitchen to grab him a book.
01:05:10
What was the book that she started to grab that she was
01:05:13
like, oh, this is his favorite but we're going to do something
01:05:15
lighter. It was like.
01:05:17
I can't remember. What it was I?
01:05:20
Think it was It was Darwin's natural selection.
01:05:22
Is is that what it was? OK, so that apparently is
01:05:26
Franklin's favorite book. But she was like, no, we're
01:05:29
going to do something like she picked a kids book.
01:05:31
And she goes back into the living room and she feels
01:05:34
something off and she turns and who is standing there in front
01:05:39
of Franklin? But Doctor Doom?
01:05:43
I was like, OK, so they're leading us into Avengers
01:05:45
Doomsday. OK.
01:05:47
I hear that Reed Richards is supposed to be one of the leads
01:05:51
in that particular movie. I don't know how.
01:05:54
I don't know how true that is because there's been a lot of
01:05:57
rumors, a lot of things coming out and I really have been
01:06:00
trying to stay away from them because I feel like some of
01:06:04
these some of these fan sites are giving too much information.
01:06:09
Like I want to be surprised by some stuff when I go see this
01:06:12
movie, right? I don't need to know every
01:06:14
casting announcement, especially if the studios aren't making the
01:06:18
casting announcement. I don't want to know what you
01:06:20
found out because you got a long lens camera and you standing off
01:06:24
in the bushes at at the the filming location trying to take
01:06:28
snip. I don't.
01:06:29
I don't need more information. Or you got Alan Cumming running
01:06:33
his mouth off like Mark Ruffalo. What did Alan Cummings say?
01:06:39
Oh well, no, I'm not going to. Tell you, oh, OK, OK.
01:06:43
But but he he did get a little bit of trouble because he was
01:06:47
talking about filming a fight scene with somebody.
01:06:49
It was Night Prowler and he was like, oh, what?
01:06:52
Wait, what? So, oh, OK.
01:06:56
However, he just mentioned it in passing.
01:06:58
Like he wasn't really talking about the movie.
01:07:00
He just said, Oh yeah, I was fighting such and such as Night
01:07:03
Prowler and every people picked it up.
01:07:07
But here's the thing, you have to go with that.
01:07:08
Even when you get casting, even though they say they're in the
01:07:11
movie, we don't know. As long as no one says the
01:07:13
extent because literally with that movie's Doom could be going
01:07:19
to different Earths and just encounter those people.
01:07:22
He maybe go to another Earth and Nightcrawler is fighting.
01:07:24
We don't know the extent. That's how I see things.
01:07:27
Like just now. If I see things about Eddie
01:07:29
being a stranger thing, it could be a flashback.
01:07:32
I don't know until I watch it and I'm not going to find out
01:07:35
why he's in the movie. I didn't say he was in the
01:07:38
movie, people. I just said if they said Eddie
01:07:40
was in the movie, it could be a flashback or he really could
01:07:43
have come back. We don't know.
01:07:46
So somehow this family has to get to what earth, Earth which
01:07:55
we saw. So in our mind we can piece that
01:07:59
together. Now it's going to fall.
01:08:01
He. Starts the movie talking about
01:08:03
the existence the formula shows we have to get to the
01:08:07
multiverse. Right.
01:08:07
Yeah, he does. So then we know they will end up
01:08:10
traveling the multiverse, but then it'll be time too because
01:08:13
the time difference. Not, no, not necessarily.
01:08:17
Oh, because we're on a different time than that.
01:08:18
Yeah. OK, so we know for sure that's
01:08:20
going to happen. Yeah.
01:08:23
But also, did we know for sure? But also, too, I've heard rumors
01:08:28
that, you know, I I don't know, but.
01:08:30
But my point is, I don't want to know everything about the movie,
01:08:35
especially since they're still filming.
01:08:37
Stop. Given everything, everything.
01:08:39
Like some of us want to go into the movie and be genuinely
01:08:43
surprised. Just like, yeah, just like the
01:08:47
way we were surprised when we went to Multiverse and Madness
01:08:50
and Patrick Stewart showed up. Or John Krasinski, because
01:08:53
everybody had been fan casting him for so long.
01:08:56
I I didn't know about it. I was excited when I saw it.
01:09:00
That's the feeling I want when I go in the movie theater.
01:09:03
I don't want to know every. Single.
01:09:06
Oh, how Chris Evans was denying that he was in their pullover
01:09:10
ring. Oh yeah, and he popped.
01:09:12
And then he popped up as Johnny Storm.
01:09:14
Yeah, right. So.
01:09:16
Yeah, I don't want to know all this stuff, you know, just like
01:09:19
I, I, I did. When they vanished at the end of
01:09:21
the movie, we didn't know they were going to vanish at the end
01:09:24
of Avengers. I can't think.
01:09:28
Of the name of the movie Infinity War.
01:09:30
Infinity War, Yeah. I didn't know that was going to
01:09:32
happen. Did you know that was going to
01:09:34
happen? Yeah, that was.
01:09:36
Probably the way to end the movie.
01:09:38
The comics, but yeah, so I just want to be surprised.
01:09:40
I have to think about that. Stop, stop.
01:09:43
I was surprised. I've seen some casting rumors
01:09:46
like, Oh well, this person wasn't announced, but this
01:09:49
person has been also. I don't want to know.
01:09:51
I want to be surprised. I want to be surprised.
01:09:54
Especially if it's supposed to be a surprise.
01:09:56
Like spider man. They were supposed to be a
01:09:58
surprise. They were denying they were in
01:10:00
the team. But that was a surprise.
01:10:02
Except except look, Andrew Garfield told Charlie Cox or
01:10:06
Charlie Cox told Andrew Garfield because they I think they were
01:10:10
in the same city filming and Charlie was like, are you here
01:10:14
filming such and such? He was like, what do you mean?
01:10:16
No, I'm not. He was like, well, I'm here
01:10:18
filming such and such. What?
01:10:20
That's how they knew. But look, look, some stuff for
01:10:23
us to be surprised. On.
01:10:25
Yeah. And I thought the other, the
01:10:28
other end credits scene was cute because it was like the old
01:10:32
Fantastic Four cartoon. And I was like, oh, I do
01:10:35
remember a little bit of that or something like that.
01:10:39
So yeah, don't. I do.
01:10:45
It I don't remember if it was like a a cartoon or if it it was
01:10:50
something maybe I saw something on YouTube that was similar to
01:10:53
that, but I was like that looks. Yeah, I can.
01:10:57
I can say that I didn't. I knew I had read a few
01:11:01
Fantastic Four comic books, but I didn't get into it until she
01:11:05
helped joined and Black Panther was a member for a while.
01:11:10
I I read those those those were kind of kind of cool.
01:11:15
OK, OK. But what now?
01:11:19
Mike drifted off. Mike.
01:11:21
Wait, what are? You talking about the
01:11:24
Illuminati? Talk about what?
01:11:27
Never mind, I thought, we can we talk.
01:11:28
We talk about the Illuminati for a second, then it's like.
01:11:31
Oh no, no, no, no. I don't see how I didn't pay
01:11:34
attention to. I didn't pay attention to
01:11:37
Fantastic Four till She Hulk was a member and Black Panther was.
01:11:43
Yeah, Spider Man was a member for a second Spider Man 2.
01:11:45
Yeah, yeah, great. It got interesting when other
01:11:48
people were members of it, OK. Yeah, and Black Black Panther
01:11:53
and Sue Storm. Kinda, No.
01:11:55
We. Don't talk about that.
01:11:58
What? You don't talk about that.
01:12:02
Yeah, see, yeah, Sue, Sue, this could be interesting because of
01:12:05
a certain person that's in doomsday that they're bringing
01:12:10
back. And I'm like, oh, because in the
01:12:13
in the comments is see, this is like, you know how back in the
01:12:16
day, like people just did whatever they want.
01:12:19
Like Sue was like they did. They made Sue look bad in a
01:12:24
couple of instances. Oh, OK.
01:12:28
In the in the comics, so they'll be interested to see how they
01:12:31
handled that in Doomsday, because they put one of her ex
01:12:37
always said they put what they put one one person that was
01:12:40
linked with her in they said that that person is going to be
01:12:43
in Doomsday. So OK.
01:12:46
I know what they won't do. They won't have Franklin
01:12:49
impregnate her. I know they won't do that
01:12:51
storyline. Thank God.
01:12:54
OK, you know what? That's too much for me.
01:12:56
Yeah, they, they, they just they.
01:12:57
There's two storms at foot. Gets a lot of weird shit
01:13:00
happening to her. That's that's that's too Game of
01:13:03
Thrones. For.
01:13:04
Me, right. That's just horrible right
01:13:06
there. I didn't know.
01:13:07
I don't want to know. Yeah.
01:13:10
I don't. Not the way you feel, but yeah.
01:13:12
No, he could probably just do it with his mind, but I still don't
01:13:15
like that. What was the thing that you
01:13:19
didn't like about the movie? Or was there anything that you
01:13:25
like? Absolutely didn't like?
01:13:26
Like you were I I mean, Mike, I know you mentioned the whole
01:13:29
romance thing, which if yeah, in in some ways I can get that
01:13:35
because I feel like it kind of took away from the main story.
01:13:38
But like I said, again, I think that was put in there to show
01:13:42
Ben's humanity. Like, OK, yeah, he looks like
01:13:44
this on the outside, but he's still a person.
01:13:46
He's still a human. He's still worthy of, you know,
01:13:50
giving and really receiving love.
01:13:52
So I think that's what the purpose of that was, so.
01:13:55
Now, now if if we if we really want to get into the nitty
01:13:59
gritty of it. I don't appreciate the fact that
01:14:02
they didn't have Alicia Masters, which, you know, giving him a
01:14:08
love interest and not be her you and you make up a character that
01:14:13
to me, I, I had a problem with that, but I didn't say anything.
01:14:16
I kind of left them alone because I'm sure they have their
01:14:18
reasons for it, but that really bothered me a lot.
01:14:25
Because she was the character that Kerry Washington played.
01:14:28
Yeah, right. Yeah.
01:14:30
Was she also African American in the comics?
01:14:32
Yes. Oh, OK, so I OK.
01:14:35
So you see where I'm coming, You see so I didn't we we just going
01:14:39
to let. But you.
01:14:41
Know I would let it slide, but it was very difficult when you
01:14:44
only have one other person of colour really in the movie and
01:14:48
she wasn't even in there that much.
01:14:50
But I don't want to make this about that.
01:14:54
We probably should because it it it you asked what I didn't like
01:15:00
about it. That was a thing I really
01:15:03
dislike, that I really dislike. That the only thing I will say
01:15:07
about that is if they decide, I don't know if they have a, if
01:15:11
they have plans to do a second film in Fantastic Four.
01:15:15
I know that. It makes time to see them.
01:15:17
Will be doomsday, but if they do do a second Fantastic Four
01:15:22
movie, it could be possible they will bring her in in that one
01:15:25
because maybe this person, this flirtation was just a stepping
01:15:29
stone for Ben, maybe something to make him see.
01:15:31
Oh, OK, you know what, maybe I am still, you know, people are
01:15:35
still attracted to me. Maybe that's all that is, you
01:15:38
know, because you you kind of don't want to look at the person
01:15:42
be like, OK, the first person who shows interest in in him.
01:15:45
That's the only person he's going to be with.
01:15:47
OK show that there's some some some other interests up to to
01:15:51
get him in that mindset. I'm determined of love too.
01:15:54
And then maybe in in the second one or maybe even in Doomsday it
01:15:58
depending on how big a part Fantastic Four has in the movie.
01:16:02
Maybe they will bring her into it.
01:16:04
That that is my hope. I'm going.
01:16:06
To before we get before we get too far, Michelle points out
01:16:09
that in the comic book she was white, but I thought it was a
01:16:13
bold choice to make her black because her color isn't really
01:16:18
pertinent. Pertinent to what?
01:16:21
What she is. OK.
01:16:24
Does that make sense? But she's very important in his
01:16:26
life. She's very important in black.
01:16:28
I I just looked that up like she's one of the main, his main,
01:16:32
his main. But she was sort of like the
01:16:35
she. Was hard to see.
01:16:38
Huh. She was his Sue Storm.
01:16:40
Yeah, but she was also the person that accepted him for who
01:16:45
he was. Oh, and they took that away
01:16:48
'cause they gave it to another woman.
01:16:50
Right. Because, you know, for the most
01:16:53
part, he thought of himself as grotesque.
01:16:55
He didn't really like that and. She.
01:16:58
And she saw through through saw through that airport because
01:17:03
she's. Blind so you right though they
01:17:05
should just kept her character in there.
01:17:08
It's a different world. She can be whoever she needs to,
01:17:09
but it should be her 'cause she's the one who shows him
01:17:12
love. Yeah, that's the other thing I
01:17:14
do like about what they did with Ben in this movie, because even
01:17:18
though you see like a couple of moments where he kind of looks
01:17:21
at, looks at his reflection wistfully, he's not.
01:17:26
He doesn't seem as depressed as like previous versions of the
01:17:29
character. He doesn't seem that negative
01:17:32
about what he is. It's almost like he's accepted
01:17:35
what has happened. But also, again, I mean, this
01:17:38
film takes place I think three years after all of that
01:17:41
happened. So he's had time to live with
01:17:43
it. So he's had time to deal with
01:17:45
it. Yeah.
01:17:45
So yeah. But I also, I also realized that
01:17:48
him looking in the mirror, you and you look at some scenes
01:17:51
where he wasn't that way. He is actually more comfortable
01:17:58
how he is now in this movie then how he was just regularly
01:18:02
walking around. You wouldn't say, oh, he's the
01:18:03
handsome one. He's like, I'm not.
01:18:07
So he seems more confident now than he did before the change,
01:18:13
which is a it's different take. I think I think it has to do
01:18:18
with do with them because in other movies we saw them, they
01:18:22
went through the whole them in the spaceship going up and
01:18:25
getting in the storm, coming back down, recovering, finding
01:18:28
out they have the powers and then having to deal with the
01:18:31
powers. This is the we're we're seeing
01:18:32
them now, having already gone through all that shit.
01:18:35
This is why why again, I like that they just kind of briefly
01:18:40
summarized all that shit because he you, you can tell that he
01:18:43
already, of course, he still has some some inhibitions because he
01:18:47
he still feels some kind of way sometimes because it's the shot
01:18:51
that I love in this movie where he's he's like walking past ATV
01:18:56
store and they show an image of him before they before, before
01:19:00
the accident. Then the the TV cuts off.
01:19:02
You see his reflection and I'm just like, that's fucking
01:19:06
beautiful. And but, but it's like you could
01:19:09
tell that he that he's fine with it.
01:19:11
The way he interacts with the kids when he picks up the
01:19:14
Volkswagen, the way that he interacts with Herbie.
01:19:18
We interact with Herbie and with all the, with everyone else,
01:19:21
like being being there for read and like helping him talk
01:19:26
through everything. And it's just being himself.
01:19:29
I, I, it shows. It shows that the shows that
01:19:32
he's had time to deal with everything that he's had
01:19:36
everything that's going on and that he's, he's come to a good,
01:19:41
happy, good, happy mushy medium, mushy middle to it where he's
01:19:45
like, not overly OK, I'm really great or Oh my God, this really
01:19:49
fucking sucks. He's just like, OK, I'm just
01:19:52
it's this is me. Yeah, this is me.
01:19:55
Life goes on. Yeah, right.
01:19:57
Yeah. But back to the Alicia Masters
01:20:00
thing. And I feel like they didn't do
01:20:02
it because people raise the question.
01:20:05
Well if you cast her and it's a white woman then oh y'all had a
01:20:09
problem with her being black? So they just avoided the whole
01:20:13
question by creating a whole new character to do the same thing
01:20:16
but. Brings up even more questions,
01:20:18
but a different set of questions.
01:20:20
Which brings up a different set of.
01:20:21
Questions. Yeah.
01:20:22
Yeah. Especially that was his main
01:20:24
person who helped him find acceptance within himself.
01:20:29
Yeah. But like I said, we, we, you
01:20:32
know that they'll explore. That Oh yeah, he didn't need it
01:20:34
here, so. Yeah, yeah.
01:20:37
There there's a still invalidate character.
01:20:41
Well, no, on this earth he runs into it, but you know, she's not
01:20:48
needed. Yeah, OK.
01:20:50
Michelle, what didn't you like about the film?
01:20:52
If anything skip me OK? I'm trying to think.
01:21:00
OK, Mike, what? She didn't like the third act
01:21:02
where they were trying to teleport the planet and get
01:21:04
everybody to work together. I.
01:21:06
Didn't sound like you. Yeah, that's you, that's.
01:21:09
You, Mike, What didn't you like We.
01:21:12
Knew it wasn't going to work. Do you know how much of a
01:21:17
difference to? Oh my God.
01:21:20
Percent. We already have this
01:21:21
conversation like 30 minutes. Ago.
01:21:25
I just want to make sure I get the point across.
01:21:29
There's not there's nothing there's nothing I really
01:21:31
disliked about this movie. There's certain things that I
01:21:34
didn't necessarily care for, but it didn't.
01:21:37
But it's like like the pacing of the first act.
01:21:40
I I thought the pacing of the first act could have used could
01:21:43
have been better. I think that there is.
01:21:47
I mean there are certain things like after, like after the
01:21:52
baby's born. It just no, there's no, I mean,
01:21:56
I gotta be honest, they're they're not really anything that
01:21:59
that that took away from it for me.
01:22:01
Like there, there, there's some some stuff I wish they wish that
01:22:03
could have been better paced. I actually like the writing in
01:22:08
here. I like, I love the effects.
01:22:10
So I don't I don't know. I don't appreciate them playing
01:22:13
with my emotions, thinking that they're gonna do that they're
01:22:15
gonna spaghettify fucking read riches again.
01:22:18
But. Yeah, that was traumatizing.
01:22:21
In Multiverse of Madness, I don't even see that ever.
01:22:24
Again, it was yeah, yeah, I figured out what I I didn't care
01:22:30
for, which I don't care for in other movies, is when you show
01:22:35
people and they're not important, but lady find out
01:22:40
they are kind of important to the to the main characters.
01:22:44
So they're publicist. So because at first I'm like,
01:22:47
oh, something's going to happen with her because you keep
01:22:50
showing her, but you just showing her reaction.
01:22:54
I don't then. And you got a great actress.
01:22:56
So I was like, that's not needed.
01:22:59
I don't care for that. OK.
01:23:02
And she had maybe like 3 lines like oh she going to do
01:23:06
something, she going to be something.
01:23:08
But she's just decide like oh, when they're going to a mission,
01:23:12
let's show her. When they come home, let's just
01:23:13
show her reaction. Yeah, I think she was kind of, I
01:23:19
feel like she was there to kind of bridge be the bridge between
01:23:23
them and the and the regular people.
01:23:26
I get that, but then have her do more to show that she's the
01:23:29
bridge between the regular people.
01:23:30
Yeah, I got you. I got you.
01:23:34
Look up. She was a publicist.
01:23:36
We had, yeah, you have to look it up to be like, oh, she's
01:23:38
important in there. You know, she's a lot.
01:23:40
Share public relations. Yeah, shout out to her because
01:23:44
she she was in Ted Lasso. Oh yeah, as a therapy lasso.
01:23:49
As the sports psychologist in the second season, she was
01:23:52
awesome. Yeah, so for so for me, she's
01:23:55
important 'cause that's my show. But.
01:23:59
Yeah, Tell Lasso is the show. I love that show.
01:24:00
Yeah. OK, well so the next time we
01:24:07
will see the Fantastic Four will be in Avengers Doomsday, which
01:24:11
again I believe is slated for 2026 release.
01:24:17
Yes, ma'am. Do we say what's your favorite
01:24:20
part, Your absolute favorite part of the whole movie?
01:24:23
Oh no, we didn't. OK, so let's go there.
01:24:25
I'm sorry to interrupt. What's your I don't have?
01:24:26
No, I don't have one right now. What's your favorite part of the
01:24:29
movie? You, you.
01:24:30
You stopped us from talking to get to get to the favorite part.
01:24:32
You. Ain't got 1 yet.
01:24:33
Ain't got one she's. Thinking.
01:24:36
She's thinking, yeah, but I this.
01:24:37
May seem this may seem small like a little small thing, but I
01:24:42
love the way Galactus's eyes change to real and then to the
01:24:49
power cosmic. Like you see that he was
01:24:53
actually a real person. And.
01:24:56
Then you see his eyes change back.
01:24:58
He did a couple times. I I thought it was brilliant.
01:25:02
Yeah, it's like the part where where Galactus was put was in
01:25:06
the tunnel is trying to come back out and Silver Surfer
01:25:09
pushed Johnny out of the way and went towards him.
01:25:11
He had the Power Cosmic on. Then he turned it off and looked
01:25:13
there like what are you doing? I excuse.
01:25:16
Me, you supposed to be on my side.
01:25:18
And she pushed it back in. That was that was awesome.
01:25:21
Right, right. But I love that detail.
01:25:24
That was one of my favorite parts.
01:25:26
So oh wow, they actually thought about that.
01:25:29
That was kind of cool. I like that.
01:25:32
Everything about Galactus I liked.
01:25:36
OK, yeah, yeah, he, he reminded me.
01:25:40
And I know I asked you, Anthony, because I was like if he had
01:25:42
celestial and you were like, no, but that's what he reminded me
01:25:45
of. Me too.
01:25:47
You know, the the celestials. But OK, Michelle, what was your
01:25:52
favorite? Supposed to be as as big as they
01:25:54
are. And I know some people
01:25:55
complained about he was. He was small, smaller than he
01:25:59
should be. But in the comic books, he can
01:26:02
change his size. I was going to say that seemed
01:26:05
like something that a person like him would be able to do.
01:26:10
Yeah, he. Can change the.
01:26:12
Size, yeah, he can scale. Plus he plus he doesn't like
01:26:15
eat, eat planets like an apple. I think that's where a lot of
01:26:18
people were like, they're like, Oh my God, he's not, he's not
01:26:21
eating the planet. He's just, he's just walking
01:26:23
around on it. He but no, but that's really
01:26:25
what happens. Like he sits in the chair, the
01:26:27
tubes go into him and he's in his ship goes through the planet
01:26:31
and processes it and feeds him. That's why how he feeds.
01:26:34
He doesn't just like just like walk around grabbing planets
01:26:37
like like apples off a carton. Just don't, just don't just like
01:26:42
planet cores just floating around in outer space where he's
01:26:45
he's been past them and stuff like a letter bug.
01:26:47
Like damn, yeah, messy some bitch.
01:26:51
Yeah. Hey Michelle, what is your
01:26:53
favorite? I'm not there yet, What's your
01:26:55
favorite scene? This.
01:26:57
Was your idea. Hey, you could.
01:26:58
Rob him around. I think that's I talked about my
01:27:02
favorite I the part earlier, which is why I didn't think to
01:27:05
ask it again. But just them showing Sue Storm
01:27:10
to be as powerful as she was. She was, you know, not shying
01:27:14
away from, you know, the fact that even though she's a mother,
01:27:18
she can still be a superhero. She can still be important.
01:27:21
She can still be the most powerful person there because,
01:27:24
yeah, Rita's the smartest. But she's the most powerful out
01:27:28
of all of them and I love what they didn't shy away from that.
01:27:31
Right. So anything in the movie just
01:27:34
stood out then anything else then for you that you said that
01:27:40
are? You trying to buy time?
01:27:41
Yes. We need to talk about Herbie.
01:27:43
You need to talk about. Herbie, Herbie I I loved Herbie.
01:27:47
I I love the way they kind of treated him like family.
01:27:50
I love the way that him and Johnny were kind of, you know,
01:27:56
they had the little connection that they had calling him
01:28:00
Herbert. I was like, really y'all?
01:28:02
When he scratched him on the head every time, every time he
01:28:04
brought him something, he scratched him on the head like a
01:28:06
dog. Like that's cool as shit.
01:28:08
It was just. Cute I I liked him.
01:28:10
He reminded me of other like cutesy robots like Wally and
01:28:14
that sort of thing. It was it was cute you.
01:28:16
Know and also he runs on tape because when they took off, Reed
01:28:21
took Reed took the home tape out and put the space tape in.
01:28:24
I was like. Well, I mean, it's the 60s
01:28:27
cassette. No, that was cool as shit.
01:28:29
Yeah, that was like that was storage room full of the tapes.
01:28:33
Yeah, right. Exactly.
01:28:35
Mike, what's your favorite? It's a there was a couple I, I.
01:28:43
Want you guys stick to 11 but. But you ain't.
01:28:47
You ain't ready yet. I don't know.
01:28:48
I'm ready, but go ahead and do your one.
01:28:51
Do your one. Fine, I really like how they did
01:28:55
Johnny in this. I think I think Johnny's
01:28:57
probably probably one of my favorite character.
01:28:59
I love the way they they didn't they didn't make him an idiot.
01:29:04
They they made where they made him smart.
01:29:06
They, they actually had him figuring things out and I love
01:29:11
that he treats, he actually treats Reed like his Big
01:29:16
Brother, like he wants to impress him.
01:29:18
That's why he kept bringing them the plans for the suits.
01:29:20
He was just like, look what I did, Look what I did, I need you
01:29:23
to help me with this. Then look what I did.
01:29:24
He's trying to, he's trying to have show him that he's a he's
01:29:28
smart just like he is. It's like he's treating him like
01:29:30
a Big Brother. And I really like that with that
01:29:34
that kind of relationship with him instead of him just being a
01:29:37
pest that goes out and melts his clothes off and creates A
01:29:41
creates a hot tub and had and does all the first movie like
01:29:45
whatever. And I like the fact that Reed
01:29:47
actually paid attention to him because like, yeah, Reed can get
01:29:50
focused and he's like, I'm working on this right now,
01:29:53
working on this right now. But then when they get ready to
01:29:55
go back to space, he was like, it's your suits.
01:29:57
I did your suits. I I I like that, Yeah.
01:30:01
Yeah, that's cool. I I really like their
01:30:03
relationship. I I just like, I really like
01:30:05
Johnny overall in this. I think that they did a really
01:30:08
good job in portraying him and not making him a making them
01:30:13
just a just a, a character where you'd like oh God, like an
01:30:16
annoying character. They made him, they made him
01:30:19
have a purpose and they made him have I've had an active role in
01:30:24
saving everybody and like showing that he that he can
01:30:30
think and that he's smart and I appreciated.
01:30:32
That yeah, I'm I'm gonna not let you off the hook too.
01:30:37
So what 1 scene then encompasses that for you?
01:30:42
The scene, the scene where she where, where Shia Labal is about
01:30:46
to destroy the last, the last gate and he broadcast her,
01:30:51
broadcast her talking and, and he's like, this is, this is your
01:30:55
verse. And she's like, how'd you do
01:30:57
that? He's like, I translated and he
01:30:58
translated everything for her. And she's just standing, sitting
01:31:02
there like, what the fuck is like she had, she was like, how
01:31:05
did you do this? And he's just like, and he and
01:31:08
this is how he convinced her and, and just like it.
01:31:11
And that's how he turned her. And I thought that was just
01:31:13
fucking brilliant. That was just beautiful.
01:31:16
It was awesome. OK, Michelle, your turn.
01:31:19
With Stalin, my favorite scene is the movie.
01:31:24
I'm just joking. I think y'all do all that.
01:31:29
I told y'all who are just listening, you should have seen
01:31:31
the look on Anthony's face just now.
01:31:33
He's looking at her like, really?
01:31:36
That's hilarious. So honestly I'm trying to
01:31:39
shorten it so it is actually when they go and investigate
01:31:44
Galactus. I like it from that part, even
01:31:47
with everyone's part in trying to escape and I I thought that
01:31:56
was powerful in her trying to have a baby all at the same
01:31:58
time. And yes, it's action, but if you
01:32:00
just pay attention to everyone, I just that was the highlight.
01:32:08
That one scene, the 1 scene is them in the shuttle giving away.
01:32:15
Ben's flying his ass off, John is helping, Sue is concentrating
01:32:24
and there's no concentration ever.
01:32:26
Active labor, you know what I'm saying?
01:32:28
Also kind of shows how sometimes you can like be the smartest,
01:32:33
but when things are happening and you just some things you
01:32:37
just can't control. You can see it on his face.
01:32:40
Like I can come up with some things that we could do, but I
01:32:44
can't control when or how this baby's might come out.
01:32:48
I can just be there for. Her.
01:32:49
And that's the moment. This is the most important.
01:32:52
Thing right? He was like, yeah, I know the
01:32:54
spaceship is breaking apart, but yeah.
01:33:00
So and the the animation of the Silver Surfer getting caught in
01:33:03
a black hole was just like. Yeah.
01:33:07
The the look of oh shit on her face.
01:33:09
Yeah, she realized what was happening.
01:33:13
The fact that he calculated though, it's going to take her
01:33:14
30 days to get out. Yeah.
01:33:19
This is delayed. Like that's, that's a different
01:33:22
level of smart. It's like he knows exactly where
01:33:24
to where to teleport the Earth to where it can actually be in
01:33:28
orbit around a star and not throw everybody off the fucking
01:33:32
planet. Like that's, that's the same.
01:33:36
It's just like, just like it says like if you're off like a
01:33:39
couple of miles. Like I was.
01:33:40
Gonna say Anthony's not convinced it's.
01:33:43
Like, like, like, like, like you're either flooding the Earth
01:33:45
or everybody's flying off of it. It's like you have to find
01:33:48
something that has that has the right amount of gravity to and
01:33:53
the right amount of everything so that because it it the Earth,
01:33:59
people don't realize how many weird coincidences have happened
01:34:05
so that we exist, that the Earth is an actual thing.
01:34:10
Like there's so many things that have happened that are still
01:34:13
happening that take place in order that everything that
01:34:16
happened at the same time for the Earth to actually function
01:34:20
and exist as a planet and to support life.
01:34:24
Like that's my well, you, you don't think about it because
01:34:27
you, you won't think of anything else because it's like there's
01:34:31
spins at a certain degree of spins at a certain speed and the
01:34:35
gravity holds and the center of the Earth.
01:34:39
It's like there's a whole lot of shit that goes into a.
01:34:41
Partridge and a pear tree. Yeah, like.
01:34:44
A whole ton of shit. It's like and orbiting around
01:34:47
the sun, it's like and the moon where the moon, it's like
01:34:50
there's so much shit that goes into it and reads just like, OK,
01:34:53
let's just put all these teleporters over here.
01:34:55
We're going to go from here to here.
01:34:57
We should be fine. Yeah.
01:35:01
Exactly. Again, Anthony's not convinced.
01:35:05
Anthony, I'm kind of with Anthony now.
01:35:07
The more you do is like bro really?
01:35:10
Yeah, you just talked yourself into that like I do.
01:35:12
Talk, I talk myself into it, but he but it's like that's a lot of
01:35:17
calculation. Like I OK, I'm just going to let
01:35:22
it go. Yeah, 'cause I'm not that smart,
01:35:25
so I'm not even going to second guess him.
01:35:26
I'm not that smart, So yeah. That's that's a lot of thinking.
01:35:30
If that's what he says is going to take, if that's what he says
01:35:33
is going to happen, I'm a believer, I believe.
01:35:36
I can't. I can't even move a glass from
01:35:37
here to here without it falling off the damn table.
01:35:40
So how am I going? To, but he already had.
01:35:42
He had it on a tiny scale, the calculations just had to
01:35:48
increase due to size like. I would have questions like, did
01:35:54
you calculate the gravity of all the other things in the area?
01:35:59
Are you sure that there isn't a random comment that you missed
01:36:02
that might be going? Those are the unknowns that.
01:36:09
Would be a conversation he would have had if Tony Stark was still
01:36:12
alive and on his because. Those are.
01:36:16
Them banner and and like I want to be in a room and just watch
01:36:19
them volley. Right, because the asteroid that
01:36:23
is moving, that's, that's not consistent.
01:36:25
He was looking at consistent things.
01:36:28
Not that they're pretty consistent.
01:36:30
No, as in you don't know if one's going to come on that
01:36:33
path. He can't.
01:36:35
You don't know that until it's close.
01:36:40
That's just like us. We monitor space to see.
01:36:44
Actually, it's fine, but other than that, the stars are not.
01:36:47
Or they're moving, but they're not.
01:36:49
He can find a place that has the same gravitational pool.
01:36:53
Again, this is a different universe.
01:36:57
Until you tell him, forgive anybody.
01:37:00
Oh my God. Off by two degrees.
01:37:03
Oh my God, we're all. Dead.
01:37:05
And he tried. We will be here.
01:37:08
Forever. At least he tried.
01:37:11
And the thing about science is you don't know, right?
01:37:14
And you don't know until it actually happens.
01:37:17
So at least he tries. Yes, it is all a theory until it
01:37:22
is done. And how is he moving in far
01:37:24
enough, far enough away, exactly?
01:37:27
Far enough away that Galactus isn't going to be?
01:37:29
Just look over there and be like there.
01:37:31
We are. Yeah, it's a distraction.
01:37:34
It's not because it's a distraction.
01:37:36
And then we will have to move again.
01:37:39
How? How much got that kind of energy
01:37:41
we got? That we no, I mean, move again
01:37:44
when he comes, which may be another five years or 10 years.
01:37:47
What happens if it's 50 years and he's dead?
01:37:51
I don't know. The Earth is just doomed.
01:37:55
Yeah, it's like I. Mean seriously 'cause once he
01:37:58
died but he gonna put in a report of what to do for when
01:38:02
this ever happens again. You just see the Silver Surfer
01:38:05
floating down to earth again and be like.
01:38:07
This was really a temporary. Feat of your shit.
01:38:10
Yeah. I herald his egg, his egg
01:38:15
aggravation. I herald.
01:38:18
I herald his anger. I'm.
01:38:20
Done. I'm done.
01:38:24
OK. You guys have any final thoughts
01:38:26
on fantastic core first steps? No, it's fantastic.
01:38:30
No. I'm good.
01:38:32
OK, so shout out to Mark Gaddis who played the television host
01:38:36
who introduced the Fantastic Four at the beginning and the
01:38:38
end. He actually played Mycroft Homes
01:38:40
on the Sherlock series. The one with with comma comma
01:38:44
bun, bumper snatch on it. I I I am not here for Reed
01:38:48
Richards teleportation bullshit. You know what?
01:38:55
Also, also real quick, I'm not, I'm just gonna kind of touch on
01:38:58
this. I had I watched this with my DND
01:39:00
friends and first of all, shout, shout, shout to Josh Lee and all
01:39:05
them. They surprised the fuck out of
01:39:07
me because they know a lot about the Fantastic Four.
01:39:09
And they were, both of them were disappointed that this wasn't
01:39:13
linked to the maker like they were trying, trying to bring the
01:39:16
maker into this. For those who don't know, the
01:39:18
maker is a version of Reed Richards who has gone insane
01:39:25
because he's been shown how the world's going to end.
01:39:28
And he makes himself mad trying to.
01:39:31
I think this is right. He makes himself mad trying to
01:39:34
fix it and trying to avoid it. I think that's why I think
01:39:38
that's right. That's that's correct.
01:39:40
OK, so it's like they were thinking it made sense for that
01:39:43
version to make an appearance, but I was like, that's just too
01:39:46
much. I mean, we could let's just work
01:39:48
on getting Galactus right first, but something not making Reed a
01:39:53
complete know it all and showing that he has some vulnerability
01:39:57
and like there's sometimes he doesn't know what to do because
01:40:00
despite what everyone thinks, nobody likes a smart ass and
01:40:04
like portraying him as such just kind of dehumanizes him.
01:40:08
I think this just shows that he's.
01:40:10
At underneath it all, underneath all that brain power that he
01:40:13
possesses, he's still human and there's still moments where he's
01:40:16
just like, I no idea what the fuck to do.
01:40:19
And I really like that vulnerability in him style to
01:40:25
them totally misleading us in Thunderbolts, thinking that the
01:40:28
end of this movie was going to show why they showed why they
01:40:32
showed a Fantastic Four ship in the post credit scene in
01:40:35
Thunderbolts. And we never saw what, never saw
01:40:37
anything about that. So I'm going to tell you
01:40:40
something about that. What I found out after
01:40:42
Thunderbolts was that that particular scene.
01:40:47
Was. Filmed by the Russo Brothers,
01:40:50
which means it's part of Avengers Doom.
01:40:52
Right, which that's what that's what I figured out it did kind
01:40:56
of. It did end.
01:40:56
If you, you know, you say to the end and you saw who popped up.
01:41:01
So you realize what's about to happen.
01:41:03
Yeah. You saw Doom pop up.
01:41:05
Yeah, Yeah. And that means Franklin's about
01:41:08
to be taken. Yeah, but so that was
01:41:13
interesting. I I, I was like, I didn't even
01:41:16
think about it until we're like, already already.
01:41:18
I was already home and I was like, wait, we didn't see
01:41:21
anything about that. Like, what the hell?
01:41:23
That was like, oh, that's right. Russo's directed it.
01:41:27
So that's part Doomsday. I was like.
01:41:31
About that in Doomsday next year, hopefully if there are no
01:41:36
delays, so. Yeah, so ahead, yeah, I this
01:41:46
movie is is below Android Thunderbolts a little bit more
01:41:50
than this movie. So but this but this wasn't a
01:41:56
bad movie at all. So it's like kind of bit, it's
01:41:58
like right in the middle for me, like second, second or third
01:42:01
level for me. I was like, I was really good.
01:42:05
Like I'll give it like A7. And then for me, I had low
01:42:11
expectations for this movie like I did for Superman 2.
01:42:17
So surprisingly I like both of them.
01:42:22
But it's it's the favorite of all the Fantastic Fours.
01:42:28
That's a Pretty Little bar. Lay down.
01:42:33
Will it be in my rewatch collection?
01:42:36
I can occasionally watch rewatch this to get ready for for the
01:42:42
next movie. I just Fast forward to the
01:42:44
collector. Yeah, it's not my permanent
01:42:46
playlist of, again, Winter Soldier like Panther.
01:42:52
Shouted them trying to fool people into thinking that they
01:42:56
had a Stark Industries made pregnancy test.
01:43:00
When it said stork I saw so many people saying thinking that it
01:43:03
said it said the on the on the pregnancy test where I soon
01:43:06
found out she was pregnant. It said stork something.
01:43:10
Oh that says stark. I'm like, there's a stork right
01:43:14
there on it. That's going to say I didn't
01:43:18
even pay attention to that, but yeah, all right.
01:43:21
So again, it looks like we're going to be seeing them again in
01:43:26
Avengers Doomsday, which is supposed to be coming out in
01:43:31
2026. Now I'm not sure how this going
01:43:33
to happen considering they're still filming.
01:43:36
But you know what? If the Russo brothers say
01:43:37
they're going to do it in 2026, I'm going to have faith in the
01:43:40
Russo brothers and and say 2026 'cause I I really don't want
01:43:45
this to go to 20/27/2012. And I believe them, yeah.
01:43:50
So they didn't tell us when In 2026.
01:43:54
I believe, if I remember correctly, I think it might be
01:43:58
the the the summer Temple movie might be May.
01:44:02
So I'm not sure don't quote me on that, but OK, you know, you
01:44:07
know, but I mean, if it's 2026, we're we're already like in the
01:44:11
in the back half of 2025. I can deal with 2026 now.
01:44:16
If they delay it I might start getting a little antsy, but.
01:44:19
I'm OK and then if they still filming, they could be filming
01:44:21
small things and knowing them they have different things being
01:44:29
filmed, I think they'll be OK. Yeah, I think so too.
01:44:33
So I guess we'll catch up with the Fantastic Four and Doomsday
01:44:37
next year, but for now, that is it for our show.
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