On this episode of the Fandom Hybrid Podcast, we discuss the third episode of Marvel’s What If…? titled “What if the World Lost It’s Mightiest Heroes?” Before Nick Fury has a chance to go into his “Avengers Initiative” spiel, the candidates are being picked off, one by one. As Fury, Natasha Romanoff, and Agent Phil Coulson (yay!) try to figure out who the killer is, Fury has to deal with a familiar Asgardian prince seeking his own brand of justice.
This episode was originally recorded on August 28, 2021.
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What's up hybris? Welcome back to another episode
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of The Phantom hybrid podcast. This is hanako and I am here
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with Anthony Lori and Mike and we are discussing episode 3 of
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Marvel's, what if series and the title of this episode is what if
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the world lost its Mightiest Heroes.
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So before we actually get started on this episode Lori has
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a couple of things she wants to say about episode 2 since she
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was unable to be on that episode.
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So Lori what you got? I think that episode 2 was just
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as good, if not better than episode 1.
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I love the whole thing with the old Guardians of the Galaxy's
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the Rangers, I thought it was beautifully done.
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Howard, the Duck. My boy was in it.
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I like the joke. Fan.
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Oh, so he kept explaining how his theory was going to work
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spiracle. Mark washed it with me and we
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both were singers. It's laughing at The Collector,
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like no one's business. It was very well done.
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The only thing that I had an issue with is that it seemed
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like it went faster than the first one.
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It just seems like it went really quick.
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I was good until that last frame when they did the tribute to
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Chadwick and I kind of lost it and turned it off.
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But all in all, what if keeps getting better?
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Better. That's my take.
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All right. The greatest seems to be the
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theme of all. These Disney shows, is they get
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better as they go along? It's for that one low-key
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episode, but then, but then it kind of took off from there, so
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I can forgive that. Well, clearly, I'm the only one
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this group that absolutely hate it, but that's just me.
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I still I still don't. Okay, frog.
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Release the throg. Yeah.
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Alright, let's get into episode 3 because let me tell you, I I
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had an idea of where episode 3 was going to be about.
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I just was not expecting, I was not expecting all of the
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Avengers to be murdered. Like so - oh my God, like five
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minutes, they basically did a DM Marvel version of DC's identity
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crisis. That's basically what they did
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and identity crisis, they have a tiny tiny killer that goes
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around and kills, all the superheroes or inpatient
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capacity. It's them to further their
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agenda. This is what I gotta watch.
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It was in the back of my mind and I was on Twitter and someone
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said they did they did an identity crisis.
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I'm sitting there going. You know what they actually did
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cool. Yeah.
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Yeah. I had a different take.
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I was thinking, oh, they were doing it like seven because of a
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day. You don't know, you know, seven
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was a movie with Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt and Gwyneth
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Paltrow they were chasing a serial killer spoiler.
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Kevin Spacey And all his moves were based on the seven deadly
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sins. I was like, hmm, could these
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Avengers have represented those seven deadly sins like reads
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long Envy sloth Pride? Yeah, I mean, so I was like,
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okay, this kind is right there. So if it's the day car, so Tyler
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cars between each day was like, it was just like, yeah, it was
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cool because in the MCU, the title cards that we usually get
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like that. Are when they're in different
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cities. So you'll get, like, just passed
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in New York and, you know, whatever, so that was cool too.
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But I think starting the episode out for me, of course, you get
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Fury, you get Natasha and fury is giving his little spiel
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about, you know, the idea that was supposed to be the Avengers,
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and it's so funny because they're rolling up to the scene,
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where Tony Stark is sitting on top of the donut shop, eating a
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donut, And we've talked about the animation in these series
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before, but is it just me or did that cartoon of Tony Stark
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eating the donuts look like Robert Downey jr.
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Sitting on top of the donut eating.
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Yeah, it was like, animation is so good.
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It's almost like they did rule scoping of the original fitted
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so this. Yeah, they didn't they just get
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they froze it and then just there's animated over it, like
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they really is almost spot-on like for real.
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You just said yeah, yeah, yeah. Sort of be filming in being a go
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back and animate on top of what they feel.
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Hmm. Okay.
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Yeah. It's like it's like digital
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onion papering. I actually have it frozen where
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he's been the donut and it literally looks like a picture
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with the sun, shining through the donut.
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Like it doesn't look like they drew it in.
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It looks like an actual picture of someone took of the sun,
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coming through the donut, like it's crazy, then that's not that
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animation is great. Yeah, and this is like, Yep, I
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think, I think the fact, I mean, people just going to have to get
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used to the fact that I pretty much all of these what ifs are
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going to be about one movie or another, and sometimes they're
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going to have to go frame by frame.
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So, I think a lot of people had a problem with that, especially
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in the first one, like, with the first one, when people are,
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like, man, this is just basically the movie, but the,
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what if Comics they actually are there, this is just a retelling
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of an established comic book series so it's like, of course,
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they're going to Steel frames from.
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And of course they're going to Still seems from it.
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So there's going to be some parallels to it and I think
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people are just expecting something new because they've
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been spoiled by Captain America. The Winter Soldier Loki and one
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division by getting new fresh thing.
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Is that necessarily a rehash just a retelling?
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This song is basically a remix. This is like, I mean, a mouse
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will just say bad boy. What if they're like, alternate
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versions way already happened or what we know, right?
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Right. So the gonna be similar scenes
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are going to be similar situations.
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This is going to be a different version of that situation, but I
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do like the conversation that Nick and the Black Widow were
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having in the car where, where she's like.
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Yeah, you like there's this idea of a group of easy like, yeah,
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blah blah, blah. I just don't like, I've already
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heard this before, you already got me dictys and then her being
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a little judgmental about this is what you're trying to recruit
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talking about Tony. He said, did I ever tell you
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about that time? I recreated a Russian spy To be
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part of my covert American, you know, that she was like, yeah.
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Sounds familiar was like, okay, so we get, we get to see a
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little bit more of their banter, which is good.
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Because, I mean, even in the movies, you kind of get the
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feeling that she favors him over, pretty much all of them
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because he was the one that got her out of Russia, got her out
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of all of her mess that she was into, but sat out to Lake bill
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for Stepping in and Scarlett. Johansson no down reasonably
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good. Yeah, she did a really good job.
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Good really good job. Yeah.
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So they go into the scene where Tony and Nick are in the
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restaurant and they're talking. And of course, Tony's got the
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little tiger stripes from his device where it's poisoning, his
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blood and Natasha comes in. And she hits him with the
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antidote, like she does in the movie, but instead of it here,
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In him this time, it actually kills him.
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So first off, like I said, we are when Tony falls to the
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ground is literally three minutes into the episode.
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I'm like what? So we just going to start the
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episode off by killing the leader of the Avengers, okay?
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And then as we go through the episode, we get more kills, you
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get for and then you get group. Okay Bruce's murder.
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Oh my God, the Hulk. What'd I tell you, even with
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this being animated, I had to kind of like turn away from the
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TV because I was like, please tell me they are not about to
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show us the Hulk exploding on TV.
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I do not need to see green guts all over my screen I was good, I
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got 12 years of Bones under my belt.
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I'm fine remind me of that scene in Galaxy Quest when they were
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trying to figure out the transporter and they transported
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the little creature on to it. And it makes them All up then it
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exploded and he was like no it exploded, it's not good.
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I was like ew, that's gross. Yeah.
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My heart never shall Galaxy Quest To A die-hard Star Trek
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fan because they get a little upset.
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I can imagine not necessarily I thought it was cute.
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That would die hard. Get old going boom.
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But I was disturbed about Thor's death because I was like, oh,
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come on that one, bothered me, the rest of them, I was fine,
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you know, he but I mean, he wasn't worthy it.
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So, you know, he was going to be impervious to an attack.
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So I mean, it's like, it is what it is.
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It's like season or Scott. He shouldn't have day.
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The Psalms was the Norse god. Did he lost all his powers?
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He was human, he was Mortal. Yeah, yeah.
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Oh yeah, that's right. It was, yeah, they need to go
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back. Yeah, that was very similar to
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the Edward Norton version. That was the, yeah, the work.
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That was the only one that was exactly from it.
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Yeah, interests. I like how they have a work that
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in there. A good job on me, you're right.
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Because see, the problem is, is, if you haven't watched the
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movies lately watching, what if your apps like?
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I went back after the first one in weren't re-watched, Captain
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America, because I had to remind myself.
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These movies you have to really know your knowledge to get those
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fireplaces. I've forgotten if he was human.
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Yeah I actually need to go back and watch that Incredible Hulk
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because I don't remember anything about the Incredible
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Hulk movies and I watched both of them and I don't remember but
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bit pieces. But you know what?
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All you saw on what if is probably all you're really
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going? Yeah, there's really no need to
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worry about it. Like I said, Natasha tries to
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give tony the antidote and actually ends up killing him.
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So now she's framed for his murder.
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So she's loaded onto the back of a truck, Nick talks to her and
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he's like, look, somebody sabotaged starts an adult.
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I need you to help me figure out who's behind this and she's
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like, you know, of course, she's being late.
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To the truck is she's in handcuffs and she's like, you
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know, these are not going to hold me, right?
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He's like I'm counting on it. And so when they put her in the
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back of the truck and she's got all these guys surrounding her
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and she tries to make like a little joke to try to lighten
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the mood and she's like, oh, okay.
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Well here you, you mind holding these for minute, sure?
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Wait, not sure if she starts beating everybody up at in the
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meantime, rumlow is in the front of the truck talking about, I
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And see what he sees in her anyway.
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I mean, yeah, she can fight but that's only because they don't
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see her coming or they're not expecting it, and I was like, I
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just want to see her fight him. He's one of those characters in
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the movies that it was like, you wanted to like him and then once
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you found out what side he was on, I was like just died.
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Rumlow just died. It's that white male patriarchy.
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We just again, Whoo-hoo out there thought, who out there
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thought that she was gonna go willingly to prison like,
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absolutely not. No, nobody, you think a little
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pair of silly handcuffs is gonna stop her seriously.
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No, absolutely not. It's just set out to Black
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Widows rapid punch ability because she was the, I mean, she
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was like, I was like really fast in the movies, but I mean, she
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was like and I was like damn because if they had the same
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idea about her, if they have the same thoughts about her, that
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room law had like, oh, you know what?
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Yeah, I know she can fight but she's overrated or something.
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Yeah, they weren't prepared for her to whip, all of, that ass.
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I mean, how many were there? There were like seven or eight
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of them, back there with her, something like that.
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Maybe we're with them is very similar to caps seen in the
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elevator, but at least you're prepared to thought about that
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too. I really actually thought that
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she was going to say when, you know when they showed her and
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she started making the jokes, I really thought they were going
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to make her say, okay. So before we get started, does
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anybody want to guess? But I think the artist drew the
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same people because they look like the same guys that I think.
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So Megan looks like there's about eight guys in there.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And she she just kind of made easy, work of them all, and
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disappeared from the truck before, rumlow was able to stop
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the truck and and go back there and check out what was going on.
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So, yeah, she's awesome. How did, how did why, why did
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why did you do this work? He swerved all over the road
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before he got over and stop time.
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Like, you know, I wonder that too.
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Not driving. Somebody said stop the truck and
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you and go, oh, you won't drive over here, let me grab a way.
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It's like he was going through a slalom course.
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Stop the truck. Started Road, pull over to the
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side road, stop. They were probably trying to
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throw her off in the van. There's this thing called weight
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distribution in the back. You was little thrown off with
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the bodies thrown just account. Ah, okay.
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Come on, son, I believe all that.
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Well I mean it happens videos about weight distribution in tow
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trucks and vehicles for. Yeah, it's a possibility that he
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was having a hard time controlling because the weight
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was evenly. Tribute for the back.
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Sure the same C then we got to start getting into past and
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Furious shit and it's like, you know, know the laws of physics
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are different in the Fast and the Furious.
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Don't you mean non-existent then yes, there again off the cliff
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on the car arrows in space. That's all I can remember.
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I will be JT and I can still tell you exactly what happened.
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How many of you predicted that when Coulson was describing
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Thor? He was going to end that with
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really great hair because I said it before he said it on the
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screen, I was so happy to have coals and back.
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Oh yeah, it was. Yeah, I just finished agents of
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s.h.i.e.l.d. I think it was a weaker half of.
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Yeah watch the whole thing. Yeah, official drink.
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So see him being Coulson Coulson instead of Monday.
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Spoilers I was so happy because I was like yeah because the
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first movie we had them. I mean you know how I've
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shielded ever when we get you Avengers he's like the nerd.
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So of course she's gonna go Gaga and I love the fact that Hawkeye
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was like boy yes I agree or whatever.
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Great hair. I mean it's like these are many.
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These are manly Vivid there going.
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Wow. Nice hair.
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It was like a throwback to what the ingame way.
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Are the Guardians of the Galaxy map Thor and they were talking
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about how. Oh yeah, yeah.
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That's what I was thinking when they were talking about.
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But I was infinite, it was Infinity War because that's when
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they fix everything. Yes.
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Okay. Yes, absolutely.
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With the angel and the something has a baby as a good morning.
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Good morning. Good morning started.
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Basically fondling him. Yes, that's yes, that's right.
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First of all if you have anybody of that he is hands better
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looking than everyone in the room.
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So I'm sure that there are times you just mind your business
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going. Wow, he's really really good
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night at your tractor, either. You're just like he's so pretty.
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So pretty. I mean, I mean he let me he's no
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Ryan Reynolds but you know, that's the day I can't.
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Take a solo. He was an angel and a pirate.
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Yes. Yeah.
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I grew up with one person in particular and this person who
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is my age? Is almost 50 this person still.
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It's like, how did your parents put that face together?
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I mean, this person, this person, I mean, this guy, he's
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49 he makes Chris help her look ugly.
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That's how a good-looking he is and it's like like a freaking it
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his sister never hand but he got it all.
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It's like there are some people. Would you just like What
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happened? No, really what happened?
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Yeah. Okay, I got you froze.
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Or you just looked like, you know, I was just looking at the
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gray hair. I was looking at the gray hair,
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like it was literally, at the point where Clint is asking
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Fury. Okay, it's now or never and he
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was like, wow, he really does have great hair.
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That's nice. so I was enjoying it even even
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though, you know, and at that point for him, Killed supposedly
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by Clint. And then while Clint is in the
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cell he dies, and it's just kind of like what the hell is going
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on? And then, you know, I'm sitting
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here like, okay, so y'all just gonna kill thuggery Avengers in
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one Fell Swoop. We are not even nine minutes
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into the episode, what is going on?
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Because at this point, I have no idea what to think, you know?
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It's kind of like okay. So we realize this is all Turn
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it Universe things are happening different but I'm like, who in
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the world is killing all these people and then the wife, okay,
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so you're in talking about how people are dead and he's like an
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I got a rotten Chippendales dancer over on the table here.
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I had to pause so many times because I was laughing, too
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hard. I was like, oh, it's fun that
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we're getting this, an animated form, but I need to see Clark
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Greg's face as he saying all of this.
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I need to see the way Samuel. L Jackson will be looking at
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him, like, he's wrong with you. I just, I need to see this.
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And that was the thing I said last week in the episode I said,
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I realized these are animated will never see these in live
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action. But oh my God, I want these what
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ifs in live action like they could have done this in live
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action. I would have been all for it and
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mainly to because I've always been bugged by the fact that
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once Coulson was killed off in the movie franchise.
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He technically was not a part of the MCU anymore and the, you
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know, we're not going to start because don't get me started on
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the whole agents of s.h.i.e.l.d. not being part of MCU blah blah
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blah. But it was nice to see him
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interacting with these characters again in this way.
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And with such humor, I just want to see it in live action.
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That's all okay, I understand what you're saying hanako going
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to disagree with you because if we see these things alive,
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actually they're gonna come off as bad Saturday Night Live
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skits. But here, I just especially this
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episode. You would just be like a bad
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end. And secondly that was first
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thing. Second thing is, is part of the
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MCU Agents of Shield is part of the MC.
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No, actually it's not that Kevin.
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Five years actually said it is not it's not can't you can't he
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can't he can't take it back now because they actually had
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episodes related to to move right now.
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You can try to take it back. I know I know clean with all he
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wants, but I'ma tell you. It is, I know not likes it, but
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I'm just saying for them, they have to be do that.
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I don't know, I don't really know.
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I real know why they're trying to back away from that because
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it doesn't really affect him. See you as much as it could have
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but it's very hard to pull back after you do it, you know I'm
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saying? Yeah, and I understand that but
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I think the thing that has always bothered me is the fact
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that you have this awesome set of Hers on the TV, show that a
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part of Shield that are going undercover with Hydra that have
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all this stuff going on and none of that crosses over into the
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movies. Like they don't really affect
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each other in that way. And that's always bothered me
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because again, and we've had this conversation before.
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I've said this before having a scene where all of the heroes
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fight fanos and not to have somebody like a quake or a
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Melinda May Be in with that group of really awesome female
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Heroes, that bothered me not to have it.
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Give him plausible deniability to say.
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Well, yeah, of course, these characters can't show up in him,
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see you? Because it's not related.
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Well, what'd you just say you don't really want to use them,
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you don't really want to pay them.
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You don't just say that instead of being like, Oh, it's not part
00:23:47
of him. See you when clearly, it has
00:23:51
been, you know I'm saying? Yeah, I know.
00:23:52
We don't want to get on this. Discussion.
00:23:54
No, I mean but yeah. Because I mean even if this
00:23:58
one's me. Yeah, but even there's rumors
00:24:01
that Jemma Simmons is going to show up in.
00:24:05
Oh my God, which show is one of them?
00:24:07
She's showing up at one of them? Yes, I thought so.
00:24:14
Look at look at it this way, when one Division and talking
00:24:17
Winter Soldier and especially Loki is basically opening the
00:24:21
door to everything like basically Things on the table
00:24:25
lesson right now. So we could actually have some
00:24:28
members of Agents of s.h.i.e.l.d. coming in.
00:24:31
Like if you're either now or in a future movie or I mean think
00:24:35
about it, I mean, they're getting ready to delve into
00:24:36
multiverses, they're getting ready to have Charlie Cox as
00:24:40
Matt Murdock even if he's not there double, he's mad Murdock
00:24:43
in the MCU. That made that opens the door to
00:24:45
a shit ton of other things that they can do and other wrongs
00:24:49
that they can write while there while they're doing while
00:24:52
they're introducing of the things.
00:24:53
I mean, are they doing it in humans?
00:24:55
Things soon like next year or the year after Paul?
00:24:59
Was that part of phase 4 by 5, you mean to redeem themselves
00:25:02
without a horrible Who series. Yeah, I think we're going to
00:25:05
circle them. He was ABC.
00:25:07
I think they're gonna circle circle back to it at some point.
00:25:11
I thought I saw something about that.
00:25:13
So I mean, not shave her head and they not know know, can they
00:25:18
not have a main character? That can't talk.
00:25:21
Thank you. But he'll destroy a city block
00:25:28
if he talks. All right?
00:25:29
No he can't talk. Can we kill we?
00:25:32
Can we not have a Canadian character that can't talk?
00:25:34
Is there anything to do about that?
00:25:36
Like he's a great character. I love, I love black mold but
00:25:40
it's like he can't say anything without destroying shit.
00:25:44
He whispers, he destroyed city blocks Whispers, you can use
00:25:48
Black Bolt effectively but see the problem is is that they had
00:25:53
some amazing. Using actors, it's just that it
00:25:56
didn't go anywhere. Sure like to gift it.
00:25:58
The gifted I love. I will sad.
00:26:00
When a gift you got canceled. I thought that of all of them
00:26:04
that was pretty good, but they just can't just like that whole
00:26:07
rumor that we got about Jean Grey versus dark Phoenix.
00:26:11
Possibly crossing over. I'm like, okay now you guys are
00:26:15
just, you know, putting it out in the universe, just waiting
00:26:17
for it to drop. I mean they had good accuracy
00:26:22
had a good premise but But you've got to make your way back
00:26:27
into it. I mean, to tell me that all
00:26:29
those excellent and they are excellent.
00:26:31
The Marvel Netflix series to tell me, except for Charlie Cox
00:26:36
Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, even some of the other characters, I
00:26:41
mean, look, I love all of those. But when Diamondback told
00:26:48
McCain's, I wish she would have died in birth.
00:26:51
I think I replayed like 19 times because Way, he said it was just
00:26:55
so like, oh wow, he really, really, really hates this.
00:26:58
Really it was, it was so good and we got Diamond that we got,
00:27:04
we got the Defenders, okay? And the say that none of those
00:27:07
none of those are cannon. Not even with the TV series.
00:27:12
It's just bull. I need to get a mysterious I'm
00:27:15
stumped so mad about not right. Before we go back to the
00:27:31
Inhumans, I watched it religiously when it was on I
00:27:35
suffered through those episodes and you're right, the actors are
00:27:39
great. The Fakes were asked but the
00:27:43
problem with that series was the writing it was absolutely
00:27:47
horrendous. Absolutely horrendous.
00:27:49
And they're like, I don't know where those riders came from.
00:27:54
They're obviously not the same people that worked on One
00:27:57
Division. Loki.
00:27:58
Even the Netflix series is obviously not the same people.
00:28:02
It's not even. It can even be the same people,
00:28:04
so we're not easy. So she ever did that series.
00:28:09
They should be taken out back and whipped until don't ever
00:28:12
write anything ever again because they can completely ruin
00:28:17
something that could have been awesome.
00:28:19
Damn. Because yeah, black bull can't
00:28:21
talk. There's so much you can do with
00:28:23
the character. They They can't speak.
00:28:31
I'm going to back off, I'm going to save this for Dragon Con come
00:28:37
see it. That's right.
00:28:41
You know, if you want to talk about it, you can come see me at
00:28:45
my panel on Sunday night at 8:30, in the Marriott in 31, on
00:28:49
the American sci-fi going to talk about project power with
00:28:52
the Hanukkah, go ahead and plug hers.
00:28:54
We only have so much time to know.
00:28:55
We'll be here, all who made that happen.
00:28:59
Just just be. If you want to know where I'm
00:29:02
gonna be for drying conscious, go to the website and I'm
00:29:05
hybrid.com. Look at the Dragon Con post.
00:29:09
You will see all of my panels there.
00:29:11
I will be on 10 panels this year, starting Thursday, at 7:00
00:29:16
and ending Monday at 1:00. So if that's okay.
00:29:24
I want you to ask you when were you going to actually sleep, you
00:29:28
know, how it goes. You know, that being about how
00:29:32
sleep is for the weak. That's the funny thing that I
00:29:34
actually do get plenty of sleep because I don't stay out late
00:29:37
except for Sunday night. So usually, Saturday, Friday,
00:29:40
Saturday, I'm usually home by about 12:30 and then I get up
00:29:44
and I'm back out the door at like, I'm helping.
00:29:50
Well, my usual bedtime is like 2 a.m.
00:29:53
Oh, Okay, so so yeah me get a home at 12:30 a that's nothing.
00:30:01
So plus who's gonna sleep during DragonCon?
00:30:05
It's too much excitement. But anyway, you get back to the
00:30:08
show. Yeah, I say that the year I show
00:30:13
up, I'm leaving a condom just watch.
00:30:17
Yeah, but let's see. Get him back to the show.
00:30:20
I don't even remember where we where we left off, but the Uncle
00:30:24
is going to explode, all over everywhere.
00:30:26
Yes, we were getting to that part.
00:30:27
Yes. So we get Natasha approaching
00:30:30
dr. Ross, which is funny because I
00:30:32
think I saw a comment on Twitter.
00:30:35
I think it may have been the marvelous Madam's, maybe,
00:30:39
Madame, Chris. And she said something about,
00:30:42
oh, they took the only what was it, the only important part out
00:30:46
of the Hulk movie and they put it in the show, like that's the
00:30:50
only part that you need to pick us.
00:30:54
It's just like me and Anthony said, that's all you need to
00:30:56
watching them so they're moving me.
00:30:59
Yep. So Natasha finds dr.
00:31:02
Ross to brings her the syringe and gives her to try to figure
00:31:06
out what's going on. Like we think Tony Stark was
00:31:09
murdered and dr. Ross is like well why did you
00:31:12
bring it to me? You could have taken it to
00:31:13
anybody and Natasha's like we need to keep this off Shields
00:31:17
radar and you have a pretty good track record of doing because We
00:31:24
find out, she is hiding Bruce Banner.
00:31:26
And why Bruce Banner is sitting in the closet is just, I know
00:31:31
he's hiding, but still, it is just funny to me.
00:31:34
I got a bone to pick with this. Um, I better looks terrible.
00:31:38
I'm sorry that you look he didn't look anything.
00:31:40
Like I looked like they were trying to cross Mark Ruffalo and
00:31:44
Edward Norton and kind of put them together.
00:31:47
I had one of them. And the Hulk when they did it
00:31:55
look more. Like the Edward Norton.
00:31:57
Hope than the banner Hulk. Yeah, I didn't notice that too.
00:32:01
I was like, uh, like who the hell's that like, why do you got
00:32:04
a new one? Like I thought, I felt like
00:32:06
Darcy. When when Quicksilver showed up
00:32:08
there like wait, we can't swim but they have Mark ruffalo's
00:32:15
voice. So it does like the face didn't
00:32:17
match. The voice that all know sit
00:32:19
through me. I was like it did throw me off
00:32:22
too. I was just like, wait.
00:32:23
I know that's supposed to be Ruffalo, but it doesn't and it's
00:32:27
funny because, of course, these are animated.
00:32:31
They're not necessarily going to look exactly like them.
00:32:34
Nick Fury. He looks a little bit different
00:32:37
in this version but I still know it's Nick Fury again, Tony
00:32:41
Stark. I mean, I think they literally
00:32:44
just took our DJ and just put him in the cartoon because it
00:32:48
looks almost carbon copy of him. But yeah, Bruce Yeah, he threw
00:32:56
me off a little bit but well for nitpicking.
00:32:59
Slack Widow doesn't quite look like herself.
00:33:01
She looks more like what's the redhead from Mad Men or am I
00:33:05
wrong? Looks a little bit like,
00:33:06
Christina Henderson with the cheekbones.
00:33:08
Yes, you got it. She kind of looks like Agent.
00:33:10
Carter more to me a little bit. Okay, I'll give you that.
00:33:14
I'll give you that. Yeah, just hers didn't bother me
00:33:16
as much though because it was a different voice actor.
00:33:19
So, it's like, when I heard her I wasn't thinking Scarlett
00:33:22
Johansson. So I guess It didn't bother me
00:33:24
in that way. So Natasha she gets the syringe
00:33:28
to dr. Ross, dr.
00:33:29
Ross tells her okay, well, you're an adult never even made
00:33:33
it into the syringe. This syringe looks like it's
00:33:36
been tampered with and it just looks really weird.
00:33:39
It looks like someone went in and actually like split the
00:33:42
needle and then you know, Natasha gets the phone call from
00:33:45
Fury and he's like, yeah. So I think.
00:33:49
Well, first of all, he had to call her and tell her the Clint
00:33:53
was dead. And then he tells her, I think
00:33:57
Barton and Starks murders were related.
00:34:01
And at this point, this is when Fury realizes that, it seems
00:34:05
like the murderer is going after all of the candidates for the
00:34:09
Avengers which means Natasha and Bruce are next.
00:34:14
And guess what? They're in the same room right
00:34:17
now. That makes them an easy target
00:34:19
and of course, Ross comes in. I, you know what, I cannot stand
00:34:27
this character. I've never been able to stand
00:34:29
this character, he talks about him real bad in, huh?
00:34:35
Love Ross. Love him.
00:34:38
Of course the biggest asshole. You love him.
00:34:41
It was a real over the years, has a healthy decent dislike of
00:34:49
General Thunderbolt Ross. That's why I'm saying you love
00:34:52
to hate the man. So bad.
00:34:55
I mean every iteration I've seen whether cartoon TV comic book.
00:35:01
He just comes off as this big huge jerk and poor Betsy.
00:35:05
I mean, come on, I mean it's you do not real.
00:35:08
I mean, that's what it is. Yeah.
00:35:10
We know what your dad but not every parent is the best parent,
00:35:12
I mean. Yeah.
00:35:14
Right Thunderbolts and all that. But yeah, yeah.
00:35:18
So this do I can't like I can't stand him.
00:35:21
So of course he comes in. In with his Squad, guns blazing,
00:35:26
they're holding Natasha and Bruce at gunpoint.
00:35:30
And then it appears that one of them shoots Bruce and of course,
00:35:36
all of his people are, like, he's like, who shot.
00:35:39
I didn't say shooting. They like it wasn't us.
00:35:41
It wasn't us, and Bruce turns, and he gets angry and he starts
00:35:47
throwing cars and doing the kinds of things that the Hulk
00:35:50
does and yeah, Bessie. Is one of those, you know, she's
00:35:56
like, I'm his daughter. He'll listen to me, talking
00:36:00
about, Ross. I'm like sweetheart this no
00:36:04
quick. Did, you know this when Black
00:36:07
Widow jump through the glass? Did you know this?
00:36:10
She stuck The Landing. I did, she did her superhero.
00:36:16
It's such a pose that right? And she did it just like that
00:36:19
with the hair flipping everything I was like, wow, they
00:36:22
actually did put that in there, but the Betsy is always like
00:36:25
that. He's my father.
00:36:26
He'll listen. No, he actually won't.
00:36:30
He never has any never, we never will.
00:36:33
Yeah, so gullible to be so smart.
00:36:36
But Bruce, as he's going through his fit of rage, something
00:36:43
starts happening. And when I tell y'all, when I It
00:36:46
seemed to him like, get misshapen.
00:36:49
I was just like, okay this is not going to end.
00:36:52
Well, I was like, are they really back to kill the Hulk?
00:36:55
Like no, you can't kill just my all the Avengers.
00:36:58
Yeah, they're about to kill all the Avengers and in the middle
00:37:02
of all this Fury is in. What was it?
00:37:05
New Mexico. Yeah, meeting Loki.
00:37:08
Yeah. Look, you brought he brought the
00:37:10
Army down and I was like, oh, they're pissed.
00:37:14
He's about to unleash. Hell, he was like, yeah, you
00:37:18
killed my brother. The prince of Asgard we're about
00:37:21
to make you pay. I was like I like this low-key.
00:37:27
You know, my whole thing is I like looking for when they're
00:37:31
being siblings, they don't necessarily have to get along
00:37:34
all the time, but the seeing him come to Earth with a massive
00:37:38
Army because someone murdered his brother.
00:37:41
I was like, yes. Let's see.
00:37:42
What kind of Mayhem this Loki is about Including sniffing mmm.
00:37:47
I was like, oh shit, it's on, right?
00:37:51
So Furious having to deal with Loki.
00:37:54
Wow, Ross is dealing with the Hulk.
00:37:58
And like I said, when the Hulk, he's sitting there, first of
00:38:02
all, Ross starts shooting at the whole, which is when Betsy start
00:38:05
saying, you know, father, no, no.
00:38:08
No, look, he's already shooting at this, dude.
00:38:10
Like literally, emptying rounds into him.
00:38:13
Whatever you thought you were going to stop.
00:38:17
It's a little bit too late for that now, but while he's there,
00:38:21
Hulk is fighting. And then all of a sudden, this
00:38:24
thing starts happening and he starts expanding and his body
00:38:28
gets really, I don't know. It is almost like, yeah, bubbly.
00:38:33
I don't know what you want to call it, but he explodes and
00:38:36
it's just kind of like didn't y'all just Say he couldn't die.
00:38:39
He literally just said this five minutes ago, he can't die, but I
00:38:44
guess it's not true. And at this point, I'm still
00:38:47
sitting here trying to figure out like, what the hell is the?
00:38:49
Anybody else? Know what was going on at this
00:38:51
point? And I realize, I'm probably the
00:38:53
only one who hasn't read the comics.
00:38:54
I don't know how, I don't know if this actually took place in
00:38:58
the comments, but was I the only one confused?
00:39:01
Try to figure out like, what the hell is going on.
00:39:03
I was actually starting to feel. I'm try was trying to remember
00:39:06
if I if I dread this wonder if I Actually have this one because
00:39:10
like I have like 20. What if Comics I was trying to
00:39:13
take my head this one because once he started feeling weird
00:39:17
and blowing up, I kind of started to put it together like
00:39:20
the mystery shot, Barton shooting without actually
00:39:23
shooting. I was, I started to move in
00:39:24
together. I'm watching it now.
00:39:26
So I started to think, well, I think I know what's going on and
00:39:29
like, when we get to the library scene and it was you, that was
00:39:32
like, oh that's what the fuck it is.
00:39:35
And I remember because I know I read it somewhere, but I don't
00:39:37
know if I actually Have it. But yeah, it was really familiar
00:39:41
to me. Okay, I don't think I have,
00:39:44
because I think I only have like, maybe two issues, the one,
00:39:47
I love this. I usually grab me when I,
00:39:49
whenever I see him, and it's something I really want to.
00:39:51
I usually grab them at like 20 over 20 of them.
00:39:54
I love those. Yeah, I I don't because I, I
00:39:58
spit a serious amount of years, buying and hunting down JSA
00:40:02
issues. So, I have a lot of JSA versus a
00:40:04
lot of other stuff. So a lot of the stuff that I
00:40:07
could have spent money on for Marvel.
00:40:08
I spent on DC that I have an almost complete Constantine.
00:40:12
Run yeah, well okay Boulders in the cravings when he says
00:40:18
Michael Douglas. So we'll see I didn't look at
00:40:20
the credit because I think the last time I looked at the
00:40:23
credits was when we were recording then the second
00:40:26
episode and I was trying to figure out of Tom Hiddleston was
00:40:29
actually going to be voicing Loki in this episode.
00:40:32
And at that point they had an added any of the voice cast
00:40:37
information too. IMDb.
00:40:39
Is that why you sent that out? Because by the time I saw it, I
00:40:42
was like, well, of course, he's voice good.
00:40:44
Everyone else is voicing their role know and see that was the
00:40:47
thing. Everybody else is not voicing
00:40:49
their roles. That's why we were trying to
00:40:51
figure out like. Okay, so for this first episode,
00:40:54
we knew that Fury was being voiced.
00:40:57
I think I knew that Ruffalo was voicing Bruce, but we knew that
00:41:02
Scarlett Johansson was not voicing Black Widow.
00:41:05
Chris Hemsworth was not voicing Thor and already.
00:41:08
AJ was not voicing Tony Stark. So at this point I was like okay
00:41:11
so is Tom Hiddleston even voicing looking at the time that
00:41:15
we looked we didn't know because it wasn't listed so Michael
00:41:19
Douglas wasn't listed none of the big people were listed at
00:41:22
that point yet so you know we just didn't know soon as the
00:41:25
episode went live Movie Database, Michael Douglas All
00:41:33
those old reason why I knew was I was curious as to what
00:41:36
Scarlett Johansson going to be in it.
00:41:38
You know, he was like the third personalistic.
00:41:41
I was like oh oh oh okay when who in this minute started it
00:41:45
was like oh yeah. Okay.
00:41:48
See and I think that's probably another reason why I don't
00:41:51
really look at the IMDb until after the episode is done
00:41:55
because I want to be surprised. And if I would have seen Hank
00:41:58
Pym in there, and then seeing what's going Along with the
00:42:03
murders. I would have figured that out,
00:42:06
but as it is, until they revealed him, I had no clue
00:42:09
because I wasn't even thinking anything along the Ant-Man
00:42:14
Universe being included in this episode.
00:42:18
So it's kind of like, oh, okay, that kind of works.
00:42:22
It makes sense, once they made that reveal that, it was Hank
00:42:25
Pym, trying to avenge hopes death, and I was like, oh wait,
00:42:31
this is like Really interesting and he's not playing it Man.
00:42:35
He's listed as yellowjacket so yeah, I miss that.
00:42:39
Yeah. Oh that makes a whole different
00:42:40
whole world difference there then.
00:42:42
Yeah, you know it was funny because when you have the
00:42:46
conversation between Nick Fury and Loki whence if kind of steps
00:42:50
in issues, like, look, the all father would want us to hear him
00:42:53
out because, you know, Nick fear is trying to say, hey, you're
00:42:56
attacking us. But we're not the ones who
00:42:58
killed your brother. We actually have a mutual enemy
00:43:01
because the person who Your brother also killed two of my
00:43:04
people. And, you know, of course, at
00:43:07
this point he doesn't realize that Banner is dead yet, but
00:43:11
they have the conversation and he tells Loki book.
00:43:14
When we figure this thing out, you'll have your pound of Flesh
00:43:18
and Loki is like what an interesting choice of words but
00:43:21
I shall require the entire course.
00:43:24
I was like, we're lucky you taking this a little more
00:43:27
literal than I think Nick meant it to be, but I mean it's a
00:43:30
different loci. That's what he wants.
00:43:33
That's what he's gonna get. So many fucking opens.
00:43:36
Oh my God. It's like ever since I've seen
00:43:37
loved. It makes Loki seem like the most
00:43:40
layered character in the MCU. It's like, there's like boastful
00:43:43
Loki. I mean, there's literally is
00:43:45
almost like all the Lucky's in the, like, after you guys snap
00:43:49
is like all like, he's basically all of them like in every, every
00:43:53
picture he seems like he's a different version of low-key,
00:43:56
and it's crazy to me, like, and this one, he's like, really,
00:44:00
like, he's more like a ruler. In this cartoon that he is in
00:44:05
anything. Any of the other movies that
00:44:07
he's been in? Yeah.
00:44:08
He reminds me a little bit more like Odin.
00:44:10
Yeah. In this.
00:44:11
What does? But so I haven't planned in the
00:44:16
background and the other there at the part where they're in the
00:44:19
public library and just trying to get cold.
00:44:23
Since password is password, is hashed.
00:44:32
Tag Steve Steve Steve. I heart Steve 07.
00:44:37
I miss. I miss Fanboy Coulson.
00:44:41
Oh my God. That was so funny.
00:44:42
I was just like, I think I took it up a notch in this show
00:44:46
though. In this episode I think they
00:44:48
took it up a notch. Yeah.
00:44:51
Because I because the same thing about a minute, after I actually
00:44:54
watched it, Mike posted that on a bumper post password.
00:44:58
I was like, yeah. See, that was just classic.
00:45:01
I mean, It was classic. Yeah, at the same time you have
00:45:06
to admit. It's been forever.
00:45:09
Like you said, since we've seen him I mean he didn't really
00:45:12
geeked out other than the first season of Agents of s.h.i.e.l.d.
00:45:15
so the see him back and forth was so refreshing.
00:45:18
Hmm, very much so but here in the public library Natasha gets
00:45:25
into a fight with a seemingly invisible Foe and I think at
00:45:29
this point it should have clicked with me who she was.
00:45:33
But again, I wasn't thinking anything within that Ant-Man
00:45:37
universe so that just never came to mind, that's when it clicked
00:45:41
with me. Like, when she's are getting
00:45:43
thrown up and down and like the all that I was like, hmm.
00:45:46
It reminded me of in the first Ant-Man, they showed scenes of
00:45:50
Hank and hope fighting, and you saw him shrink down and like
00:45:53
throwing people here and there and all this stuff.
00:45:55
Mmm. That's what everybody, right?
00:45:57
That's what it reminded me of. I was like, oh shit, that's
00:45:59
Hank. Like that's 100% Hank.
00:46:02
See I didn't think Think about it until Natasha was being
00:46:05
dragged away and she said it's hope it's all about Hope, right?
00:46:09
And I was like hope who and I was like oh this is right but
00:46:18
again I was thinking it, maybe it was Scott but I was trying to
00:46:23
figure out was like wait this isn't making sense to me, why is
00:46:26
he trying to kill all of the Avengers?
00:46:28
So as we get a little bit further into what, Going on.
00:46:33
I was like, oh, okay this makes absolute sense.
00:46:36
And speaking of animation and character voices that didn't
00:46:41
quite match. It did not sound like Michael
00:46:44
Douglas to me his voice, sounded a little bit off, but I guess it
00:46:48
was it kind of matched the way his character was drawn because
00:46:53
that version of Hank. I was like to you need like 10
00:46:57
hours of sleep and a shave and a fresh air that was The end of
00:47:03
Romancing, the Stone, Michael Douglas.
00:47:07
That's what that was. That was, that was right before
00:47:12
he had and Joan Wilder went on the boat in New York City.
00:47:15
And they went after in jewels of the Nile, I have two copies of
00:47:19
both movies. Don't hate me.
00:47:20
Favorite movies. One of my favorite ones.
00:47:22
Yeah, that was I need to shave. I'm tired, and I just finished
00:47:26
filming Wall Street and Gordon Gekko.
00:47:28
And I'm tired. I'm sorry.
00:47:31
I'm just I love Michael Douglas, I always loved that movie now
00:47:39
greed. Oh yeah, it's good.
00:47:41
It's good for like a better that government, right?
00:47:45
So, so I'm trying to figure out with the Nexus event.
00:47:48
Was they created, this alternate universe?
00:47:51
Whoo, I don't know. I couldn't how so.
00:47:53
Oh yes, the theory a theory with a little bit of detective work.
00:48:03
So with piqued my interest and then we haven't gotten there yet
00:48:06
but when Michael Douglas win, Michael Phelps when he
00:48:10
confronted Fury about Hope dying in Odessa Ukraine.
00:48:16
Oh yes. And I was like wait, what is
00:48:20
that? Yes, you did it sound familiar
00:48:24
Natasha was the best of Ukraine, right?
00:48:28
So that meant he sent hope instead of Posture in the Tasha,
00:48:35
just barely got away from who the winter soldier soldier.
00:48:43
Yeah, they've been as you like, seriously, I remember correctly.
00:48:48
She barely got out of there alive.
00:48:50
I think this was when she was young.
00:48:52
She was telling Steve that sounds like you go.
00:48:55
That was the distance event. He said, hope instead of sending
00:48:59
Natasha has been back before that hope joined Sealed which
00:49:04
could have been the next event to because the whole we know,
00:49:07
was he and shield? Oh yeah, you know what, you're
00:49:10
right, but the same that plays out in the cemetery when Fury
00:49:15
goes to the cemetery, he goes to hopes grave.
00:49:18
And then that's when we see Hank, and that's when we find
00:49:20
out that, he's the one that's murdering The Avengers and it's
00:49:23
because he blames shield for hopes death.
00:49:26
The way that Fury was talking to him.
00:49:29
You know, we saw in the seen before Fury went to You either
00:49:33
go make a deal with the devil or, you know, whatever going to
00:49:36
see low key. So when they start having this
00:49:39
conversation, I was like that is not Fury.
00:49:42
That is not like them down the first time.
00:49:46
Oh yeah. Right away.
00:49:47
I was like, that's there's lucky it Susie.
00:49:49
I was like, really here is the Furious gonna go hand-in-hand
00:49:51
with with yellow jacket like that?
00:49:54
That's what's that? No, we're not doing.
00:49:56
No, that's not it. Tell you what he smacked him
00:49:59
down that first. I forgot to come in the screens
00:50:13
on some damn. You just got knocked over again
00:50:21
and then he did it again and I was like, yeah, this can't be
00:50:25
Fury. Let me say that I can see it and
00:50:27
there's like, all that hand-to-hand combat should, I
00:50:29
was like, dear akane fight like that, like really?
00:50:33
No, that's a that's why I'm so lucky.
00:50:35
Got it and then Hank started getting you know.
00:50:38
He started getting frustrated and then he's getting his ass.
00:50:41
Whooped when he's on the ground. He looks like he's like wait,
00:50:44
there there are too many of you. Wait, what's like he's really
00:50:47
confused. He's trying to figure out what's
00:50:49
going on and then when he looks up, there's all of these Nick
00:50:52
Fury's laughing and then they turn into all these Loki's.
00:50:55
I was like yeah, Hank, you met your match, I'm sorry, the
00:51:00
episode was good. It was there was a lot more Um,
00:51:03
er than I expected especially given the fact that we spent
00:51:07
pretty much the entire episode Watching Avengers, get murdered.
00:51:12
I don't know this whole thing at the end where Loki is talking
00:51:16
about we should be allies it's like yeah I was just thinking I
00:51:22
might extend my stay on midgard for a little while and then you
00:51:26
see on Friday he's addressing the United Nations and I was
00:51:32
like this. Beach.
00:51:33
Sounds strangely familiar. Eerily familiar?
00:51:37
Yes. I was.
00:51:38
So, but see you're forgetting that.
00:51:41
The villain from the first store movie whose name.
00:51:43
I can never then beyond her. Uh-huh, that was cool.
00:51:47
Because the thing is with these, with these, what ifs is that
00:51:51
they're doing deep dies. So, when they showed him and I
00:51:53
was like, I remember him. I thought you were actually
00:51:56
gonna do something in the movie, move on next.
00:51:59
So, yeah, just so, just a random thought that we see.
00:52:03
For this, this low-key Daniels had been removed from the
00:52:06
equation Ryan. I understand that, which
00:52:09
explains the be honor and a couple other things to.
00:52:12
Yeah, Beyond. Right.
00:52:13
Yeah, I have the name wrong. I'm trying not to be on door
00:52:19
wasn't forced or you know what I'm talking about.
00:52:23
The radiator radiator, face, Skype, radiator, FaceTime, Wait,
00:52:33
that's the stage. Everything robot this awesome
00:52:36
Minion. I don't know, but I'm just
00:52:38
saying it's a remote control. Destroy your machine.
00:52:42
I think the people who lived in the town that he destroyed
00:52:45
probably looks at him as a bad guy.
00:52:47
Yeah. I'm just saying I'll say it but
00:52:51
it is like the difference between him and the beyonder is
00:52:53
like light years, but yeah, okay, I misspoke.
00:52:57
I'm sorry, that's fine. No, no.
00:52:59
Try to figure out yonder the others.
00:53:03
It's very odd that yeah Leah does Loki wasn't too far from
00:53:07
the lucky window, because he got up in front of the United
00:53:10
Nations, talking about how my loyal subjects, and how you
00:53:13
crave for subjugation and I was like, wait, isn't this the same
00:53:18
space with the Avengers? Yeah, right.
00:53:22
Before Captain America came and started fighting.
00:53:25
You like, where's our cat? And this one are right?
00:53:28
When you ask the question, right?
00:53:31
When I asked the question, Nick, Yuri is going to find Cap but it
00:53:37
was so weird seeing all of those confidence for The Avengers
00:53:40
together. Yeah.
00:53:41
That was so strange like uh uh, I don't like this reality.
00:53:46
Oh well, I just went over earlier.
00:53:48
He had he thought he had the 80s beeper that you do his pager
00:53:53
clones. Like yes, yeah, with that.
00:53:58
What we all knew exactly what that was.
00:54:04
Yeah, it's in the shop until the very end, right?
00:54:07
What's probably have you hurt your feelings in order before
00:54:10
she came? Yeah, but she showed up right
00:54:13
when he uncovered caps Shield, so is it going to be Captain
00:54:17
America? And like we already know that
00:54:20
there's going to be a new Avengers in this.
00:54:22
What if we know I think Star-Lord is part of it.
00:54:26
I can't remember who else off the top of my head but I'm like,
00:54:30
okay, yes, I'm Recharges his name is.
00:54:38
This can't be the same universe. Can't oh, never mind.
00:54:41
I forgot Multiverse first. So we can have these on Carter
00:54:47
and Captain America branches, which I cannot wait to see
00:54:51
basking. Yeah, they were to meet.
00:54:53
That would be very interesting. That would be fire.
00:54:58
Let's go. Yeah, imagine kids.
00:55:07
But that but that was see that brings brings up an excellent
00:55:09
point. Like, you know, I mean, how is
00:55:11
she gonna be in here like that? I mean, mostly Birds.
00:55:14
Yeah, fine. But it's like that would mean
00:55:18
that there were that they actually could do to superhero
00:55:21
super serum to Super Soldier transfers.
00:55:24
That means they could do to and they said they couldn't do it
00:55:27
because she because Captain, Carter took all of it.
00:55:30
So I mean it's just like But I don't know if y'all seen Contact
00:55:34
the movie with Jodie, Foster where she was in Russia where
00:55:37
she like traveled through time and space and shit but it's like
00:55:40
when they were going to do it the first time and they
00:55:43
destroyed the first one and the guy that was been affecting, you
00:55:46
just said, you know, the government, why do one where you
00:55:48
could do two at twice the price. So that could be the case where
00:55:51
they actually did have a second one Thin squirreled away
00:55:55
somewhere where they were like you know, something happens.
00:55:58
We need to have a, thank you. Yes.
00:56:00
Really think the government left all of the Super soldier serum
00:56:03
and one room. Nah.
00:56:06
Well that was how her skin kept the formula in his head.
00:56:12
So he only made enough so they couldn't replicate it.
00:56:16
They didn't have any extra because he only he had the
00:56:20
formula in his head. He refused to give it to him and
00:56:23
he only made enough for the win experiment.
00:56:26
That's where is my comic books. Uh-huh.
00:56:29
And that's why when you died, you died with him.
00:56:33
And everyone has been trying to, everyone's been trying to
00:56:35
reverse engineer it. Hmm.
00:56:38
From from the anymore, what if this versus Howard Stark like,
00:56:43
after everything that happened with?
00:56:44
Um, Captain Carter, maybe he becomes more determined to try
00:56:47
to figure out what's in it. And me, I mean, Howard Stark
00:56:51
strikes me as a guy who doesn't leave Stones unturned or like a
00:56:56
guy who can figure things out, like he's different.
00:57:00
This is a different guy than the one that we've seen.
00:57:02
And Agent Carter or Captain America the First Winter
00:57:05
Soldier. Like after this, he's big, he's
00:57:07
changed so yeah. I mean he's basically a change
00:57:10
do I mean you know Tippi Hedren none none?
00:57:13
You know? No, I'm just trying to figure
00:57:24
out. I'm just trying I'm just trying
00:57:31
to figure out how Unexplained it like are they going to do?
00:57:34
I'm saying, there we go. See a flash back with Howard
00:57:36
with Howard Stark would like a little bit of the serum saying
00:57:40
trying to backwards engineer it and like mowing mad.
00:57:43
And then finally figuring it out.
00:57:45
We're just gonna see doctors. Feigns do something stupid like
00:57:48
you did Spider-Man way home trailer.
00:57:53
Did some stupid name of this town?
00:58:20
That somehow one universe is doctor strange.
00:58:24
That something which allows people to cross over through the
00:58:27
multiverses. That would be so cool.
00:58:29
It's not unheard of, okay. If something happens, it happens
00:58:35
in the Star Trek universe, the Mirror Universe people, but
00:58:39
that's over all the freaking time.
00:58:41
That's 150 in the trailer. Well look, what old boy showed
00:58:46
up in a hoodie and they came over to the house like this with
00:58:49
this though because I'll just wait him out.
00:59:02
It's on it. I'm sorry that is not Stephen
00:59:05
Strange Behavior to me. Fourier for the record.
00:59:35
I did not see, it's not Mephisto and I didn't say it was my
00:59:38
sister. I said I'm not going to be a
00:59:40
part of this conversation. Know what I think I'm with
00:59:42
Anthony on this one. I'm not gonna believe it's
00:59:45
Mephisto until they make the reveal and I'm looking at it.
00:59:49
Like, okay. But are you sure?
00:59:52
And then y'all can talk about how, right?
00:59:53
You were and all that good stuff.
00:59:55
But until then, I'm not participating in this
00:59:58
conversation, it's not at this, at this point.
01:00:01
I'm just happy in saying that Everything is with this though.
01:00:03
Just as a reaction, like, I really don't care.
01:00:05
If its purpose or not, I just like to see new.
01:00:08
Look at me as shake your head like, damn it, stop it, stop it.
01:00:11
Mike. I mean, that's basically what
01:00:14
makes it for me. I re I could care.
01:00:16
So, shows up or not, I could give a fuck.
01:00:18
I don't even care anymore ever since he didn't show up in one
01:00:20
division of like, okay, he's doing about here.
01:00:23
But now I'm just like now is this a theory it makes my day?
01:00:29
I appreciate you all. I just like, saying we can.
01:00:32
I don't know your face. You are all the idea of the
01:00:36
fifth. I happen to like making up
01:00:39
ridiculous theories about things and having them make the right.
01:00:42
Once in 12 times, I'm completely happy with that.
01:00:46
I could care less because I love this.
01:00:49
This is this, this like makes me happy.
01:00:51
This is my, this is my happy. Place is making theories that
01:00:54
don't pan out. I love this shit, it's all over.
01:00:59
I'm waiting on my t-shirt that says no fears.
01:01:02
And I'm not you know is this is Michelle making that for you.
01:01:07
No fear. He's here I'ma get Wednesday in
01:01:11
this to this is my fist open. That would be awesome.
01:01:22
Another solid episode though. I enjoyed it.
01:01:26
Yeah yeah yeah. Another episode that said some
01:01:30
interesting things in the future like it leaves a Open-ended
01:01:33
like, especially with, with Loki taking over Middle-earth and
01:01:38
Captain Marvel coming him. Finally calling Captain Marvel
01:01:40
are coming back. How about the fact that when he
01:01:43
hit the pager, like, it doesn't say.
01:01:46
I wonder if wondering how much time it took for her to respond,
01:01:49
it when it didn't seem like, it took as long for her to respond
01:01:51
this time as it did, when the Avengers called her.
01:01:55
At the end of well, we don't know how much time passed.
01:02:00
Yes. I couldn't tell we can't tell
01:02:02
she could I've already been there with him.
01:02:03
Yes. You do know that suggests so
01:02:05
that you've been walking in there with him to get the
01:02:08
captain. Well you did say welcome back.
01:02:10
Captain. Yeah and it was kind of
01:02:12
open-ended was he talking about Captain America?
01:02:14
Was he talking about Captain Marvel?
01:02:16
Who was behind him. Yeah, we talked about her as he
01:02:24
wasn't thought out yet. He didn't come out yet.
01:02:26
So no. But I mean just the fact that he
01:02:30
found him that would have been like Well, hello.
01:02:33
Welcome back or something to this II.
01:02:36
Don't know. It could be either or, you know
01:02:38
watching it again watching again.
01:02:40
I think Mike is right. I think he's talking to her
01:02:42
okay. Because the glow didn't show up
01:02:45
until he said right. Yeah okay okay.
01:02:49
Yes. Because there was a glow.
01:02:50
Yes, there was. Yeah.
01:02:52
Yeah, they're getting. I like I like how they contact.
01:02:54
Like every episode is getting better and better.
01:02:57
So I can't wait till we get to the penultimate episode.
01:02:59
It's going to be insane. Yeah, so what Is it the party
01:03:04
Thor? Episode next episode 4 is.
01:03:08
The looks like the doctor strange.
01:03:10
What's next? Oh, okay, great.
01:03:12
Just next are detoured, then then it looks like Tony and
01:03:18
Tony. Come on a napkin.
01:03:19
Okay? Okay.
01:03:21
Then Spiderman as the sorcerer Supreme.
01:03:23
Okay. What did you say, Anthony?
01:03:26
I was just saying no Catalyst for for the next episode.
01:03:30
Yeah, I'm not even gonna bother with.
01:03:32
Cast list from this point because I don't want to be
01:03:34
spoiled. We're not gonna see one so
01:03:36
Tuesday night anyway, so I'm not working.
01:03:37
It's fine. I'm not gonna worry about it
01:03:39
because I don't want to be spoiled.
01:03:41
All right? So real quick.
01:03:43
Once you got my, all right, shut up to shouts.
01:03:47
And Nick Fury, loving double macchiatos.
01:03:49
As much as I do. I knew where I knew we were
01:03:51
here. That was awesome.
01:03:54
Let me say this to my screen name, on our car right now, is
01:03:59
let me put a bug in your ear. That's clever.
01:04:04
Yeah, but if you shout out to Hank, Pym looking like, looking
01:04:08
like Doc, Ock a little bit with a yellow jacket.
01:04:10
Costume was like, oh nice. And this instance, that that
01:04:17
came out and then the trailer came out like that seems oddly
01:04:21
convenient. Yeah.
01:04:24
Also, shout-out to the whole conversation with Fury and Loki,
01:04:27
when Loki first landed, when Loki was trying to Rattle off,
01:04:30
all of the things that he was and fury.
01:04:32
Phone kept ringing. If you're kept looking at them
01:04:35
and he was like yep looking down at us from looking at them and
01:04:37
use like Lord Of Mischief. Are you going to get that?
01:04:42
It's like and then he did he did he did that make us on negasonic
01:04:46
teenage Warhead finger while he was talking to him?
01:04:49
While he was talking to Black Widow?
01:04:51
I was I died laughing. I was like that's fucking
01:04:54
awesome like Nick you gotta give Nick Fury just doesn't give a
01:04:59
fuck like he's getting all you really, he's already seen ever.
01:05:02
I think he's like, you know what, hold on a second and he
01:05:05
does. He's like use.
01:05:06
You're going to wait and I you just got to give him his props
01:05:10
for that. That's fucking awesome.
01:05:12
I love the amount of humor they are putting into these episodes.
01:05:16
Yeah. And absolutely, loving it.
01:05:19
It's out to Hank Pym. Not knowing what it got kid.
01:05:21
Looks like those like really like what's with the goddamn
01:05:26
like he's wearing green. He's not worried.
01:05:32
Nobody thinking the jail, you know what's it?
01:05:35
Like he is not a god kid. Like what the hell where did
01:05:38
that come from? Like cheese?
01:05:41
That was funny as shit. But yeah, this is probably
01:05:43
thought he was a Slytherin, who knows, that's what it is.
01:05:47
You know what you just said? What's with this thing?
01:05:49
If you want to said oh my God, if you would have said, what's
01:05:52
with the slithering kid that what I would have been that
01:05:56
would have been awesome and shit.
01:05:58
But yeah, this is a very well put together episode.
01:06:00
I can't wait for the next one. Is gonna be insane.
01:06:02
Pain. Like, no, this is just like.
01:06:06
And again, it's like it's worth saying.
01:06:08
Like this is literally as the great philosopher.
01:06:11
Alex Hardison says, this is age of the geek baby.
01:06:16
Because again, it's worth saying that we have so much comic book
01:06:20
stuff out. Now, like, I mean it's a
01:06:23
ridiculous amount like piling upon piles upon piles and it's
01:06:27
like, being a nerd is actually cool.
01:06:30
And it's like, where was this? When we're We'll have school.
01:06:33
We got teased for this shit when people took your comic books and
01:06:35
threw them away or torn up and it's like you know what, the
01:06:38
fuck is a bit. But I'm glad y'all came full
01:06:40
circle and in glad that this is like so awesome and it's not and
01:06:45
it hasn't been a letdown for me. Personally has been left.
01:06:48
Yeah, I loved every second of it.
01:06:50
Any final thoughts on? What if you?
01:06:52
It was pretty good. I like all the humor and once
01:06:55
again, bad animation was great. The voice acting was great.
01:06:58
I can't wait for the next one. Okay?
01:07:01
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